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Hitting the limit on cold approach, is this even possible? If so, what is the remedy for it? Or how does one push into higher or fresher ranks?

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(03-14-2017 12:24 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ^Don't all Americans identify with being American?

Not within the states.

Black
Latino
American (usually whites)
Native American
Indian
Chinese
etc

See what I'm saying? I don't know how it is where everyone else is from but in the US (Assming they were raised here) if you're visiting and you ask them what they are you get one of these identifying markers. Are there separations like this in Canada if a random person asked "what they were"? Or do people say "I'm Canadian"?

Edit: WIA stole the thunder. Well said

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(03-14-2017 01:33 PM)Moma Wrote:  Hitting the limit on cold approach, is this even possible? If so, what is the remedy for it? Or how does one push into higher or fresher ranks?

lol glad I wasn't the only one what WIA said and was like
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(03-14-2017 01:38 PM)Mufasa Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 01:33 PM)Moma Wrote:  Hitting the limit on cold approach, is this even possible? If so, what is the remedy for it? Or how does one push into higher or fresher ranks?

lol glad I wasn't the only one what WIA said and was like
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WIA saying there are limits to cold approaching is like hearing Arnold Schwarzenegger saying that there are limits to muscle game. It makes you do a double take.
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@Mufasa - yes people move here and become "Canadian" overnight, even if they have the strongest accent.

The only real separation is between the French side (Quebec) and the rest of Canada which of course is English.

The reality is that everyone gathers in their "small" communities, so there is no such thing as a melting pot.

So you are saying a Chinese dude born in America, sees himself as Chinese first?

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(03-14-2017 01:53 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  The only real separation is between the French side (Quebec) and the rest of Canada which of course is English.

.....

So you are saying a Chinese dude born in America, sees himself as Chinese first?

Yes or Chinese American, thats too many syllables tho so they are likely to say Chinese.
So in canada do you self identify as french, english, canadian, french canadian, or english canadian?


edit: Im pretty sure that if you even clarified what you meant and said, "what are you, like what nationality?" they will give you anything but american. And most diaspora blacks would identify as black over African American. Like WIA said it really is a slippery thing.

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WIA has a point. A big part of game is acting. If you can convince yourself mentally, that the role is worth playing the part for then it becomes fun. The problem is, too many of guys are telling the truth but the lizards are lying anyway. Play the part, land the role and then you can let her see your truth after you grazed her clit 550 times with your tumescent wolf.

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^I am not sure what I identify with to be honest.

British born/Canadian raised/Caribbean roots. (I have ALL passports)

I like to think of myself as International. lol

Folks here love to ask me if I am from Jamaica, they seem hurt when I reply that I am from London, UK.

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(03-14-2017 02:11 PM)Moma Wrote:  The problem is, too many of guys are telling the truth but the lizards are lying anyway. Play the part, land the role and then you can let her see your truth after you grazed her clit 550 times with your tumescent wolf.

Shit that was the truth. Im aware of the girls being habitual liars but myself telling the truth is something I never even considered. I tend to game from a "its not the truth but its not a lie either" type shit but that probably isn't a level playing field as well. Fuck. word.


(03-14-2017 02:13 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ^I am not sure what I identify with to be honest.

British born/Canadian raised/Caribbean roots. (I have ALL passports)

I like to think of myself as International. lol

Folks here love to ask me if I am from Jamaica, they seem hurt when I reply that I am from London, UK.

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Some gold here. Just convert some to T-shirts and shorts and you've got some summer looks as well.

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Rude, Torontonians have an annoying habit of asking that question. When you reply British, they continue to push and say "where are your parents from?"
A good answer would be: "Sod off ville" lolll

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(03-14-2017 01:31 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  My take on KD's issue is that he can only get so far with the upper echelon chicks because he's hitting them with straight ahead game in the short term.

I think more than finding commonalities - he basically needs to increase his social status in the scene. But I've already laid that out. And he's dabbling in promoter game.

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Could it be the upper tier gals want the ballers/club owners, not the promoter handing out flyers?

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^Uh-oh...and then that gets us back in the Game vs SMV debate...
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(03-14-2017 02:11 PM)Moma Wrote:  WIA has a point. A big part of game is acting. If you can convince yourself mentally, that the role is worth playing the part for then it becomes fun. The problem is, too many of guys are telling the truth but the lizards are lying anyway. Play the part, land the role and then you can let her see your truth after you grazed her clit 550 times with your tumescent wolf.

Ya, good point. Man, I'm struggling with the bolded so much right now. Part of me feels it might be physiological (low testosterone) and part of me just desires authentic stimulation.
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(03-14-2017 02:29 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 01:31 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  My take on KD's issue is that he can only get so far with the upper echelon chicks because he's hitting them with straight ahead game in the short term.

I think more than finding commonalities - he basically needs to increase his social status in the scene. But I've already laid that out. And he's dabbling in promoter game.

WIA

Could it be the upper tier gals want the ballers/club owners, not the promoter handing out flyers?

We've touched on this before.

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This girl can get a guy with money, muscles, height, cool, looks...

What is she after?
- minute to minute
- not-so-immediate

In the deep background, she wants husband, children, a good life.
She's pretty enough to DEMAND that now from any top level guy.
^ This is the provider strategy.


Minute to Minute - she wants full mental engagement. Love, hate, fun, disgust, food, lights, music...
^This is the one-on-one game. This is interrupting her, cutting her off, making her feel odd, the roller coaster, pushing her away, pushing her towards you. That's the game we usually talk about. The interplay of personalities and playing on her second-to-second psychology.

Assuming cultural and language familiarity - what is the chick after in the not-so-immediate.

She wants drama right now.
She wants kids in the future.

But what sort of image does she have for herself?
Where does she want to be seen?

When a girl this fine goes to the club, she can get drugs, drinks, and dick.

But in my experience - these chicks always want something slightly beyond their reach.

She wants to slay.

So if she's the prettiest chick in her area, at her club,and gets everything - there's a bigger pond for her to swim in and get to the top of.

That's basically where I think the game has to go. You need to be not just at her club, but above her within her peer group, or in a better peer group.

Me, I might know all the dj's in town. So some random chick that's not in the scene, a chick that's in gen pop, sees me schmooze with all these "high status" people - and that draws her attention to me. I'm more attractive to her, because she sees herself on a higher plateau than "all these other basic bitches".

The girl IN THE SCENE, i'm just her peer. She knows all the same people. At least we can talk, at least we can be at the same afterparty. She can get to know me and like me - like a typical social circle. Within the circle, I might not be the top dog. She might just tolerate me, and not really check for me.

But what if I not only know the local dj's, I bring Migos to the city. I'm in Jay Z's entourage. When Rihanna comes to town, I'm in that posse?

I look the same - but she wants to climb. She wants to be friend with those sorts of people. She wants to raise her own stature in this fantasy social order that she believes in, that a lot of people believe in.

Ask yourself this question.

If you find yourself at a club would you rather be
- a poor male model
- a rich regular guy
- a local celebrity

For a high end girl, she can get pretty boys and rich guys - but social currency is much more attractive to her.

KD seems to be the position where he could stack ends, he could look better - but these 8+ German chicks wouldn't be throwing themselves at him.

Now if he was rolling with higher status GUYS, and chicks - suddenly these hot bitches from backwoods Germany would value him more. He's not just another smooth brother out there, but he's someone that she needs to know.

A regular chick just needs game.
A chick that's operating within a social hierarchy - like you see in the night life - she needs more than just the one-on-one game.

Lot of the hottest chicks in your city - you'll never see - because you aren't in VIP, you don't know about the pre-party and after-party, you aren't in those circles. That level of bitch isn't really going to clubs.

And if you do encounter that "objective" level of beauty - chances are high that she's attracted to the social and the physical and behavioral.

The advantage the promoter has against good looking guy at the club - is that he's harnessing the social mind of hot chicks.

It's not enough that she's hot and can get stuff- she wants to be seen - by other top level bitches - and wants to slay them.

You guys can search for bodybuilder/billionaire wives and basically confirm what I'm saying. But famous guys - guys that work on the social aspect of the game - they an order of magnitude better.

For the purposes of pulling chicks, I'd rather be Vitaly or some Youtube "Star" than some nameless Facebook millionaire.

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(03-14-2017 03:05 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  ^Uh-oh...and then that gets us back in the Game vs SMV debate...

Game is an amplifier, Ive never thought about it as a vs but as a "Game x SMV". You can't multiply by zeros...

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(03-14-2017 03:07 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  For the purposes of pulling chicks, I'd rather be Vitaly or some Youtube "Star" than some nameless Facebook millionaire.


I bet that the weightlifting youtube star who always takes his shirt off in videos, Connor Murphy, probably gets laid a lot more for being a youtube star than having a nice body.
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(03-14-2017 03:11 PM)Mufasa Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 03:05 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  ^Uh-oh...and then that gets us back in the Game vs SMV debate...

Game is an amplifier, Ive never thought about it as a vs but as a "Game x SMV". You can't multiply by zeros...

See I think SMV is an amplifier to Game. Guys can go from making no money in college to 60-80k or more. But their success with women doesn't change much.

Once you get the psychology of people - it's really just using everything else to bring attention to yourself. You have their attention, then you deploy the psychology.

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(03-14-2017 01:31 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 01:27 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 01:03 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  You can look only so good. Your physique and style can only go so far.

Assuming you can get some semi-privacy, and then run your verbal game unrestricted - I'm betting a lot of the higher end chicks don't let you really put them in a situation where they can act naturally.

Is that what you're running into when you try to break out of the 6-7 purgatory?

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I was wondering this myself. With day/night cold approach game, you still run the risk of running into non-compatible bishes which requires an investment of your time to discover if she's smashable or not. However, if you're at the point in your life where you're just smashing to be smashing, I guess it really wouldn't matter if you really like or enjoy a broads company.

Contrarily, to me, this is where circle game comes into play. If she's at a lecture on modern contemporary urban art, then chances are you share some similar interests, versus if this chic is at a night club tossing back drinks.
Without alcohol, is has become nearly impossible for me to enjoy pursing and smashing bishes who's company I don't necessarily care for.

My take on KD's issue is that he can only get so far with the upper echelon chicks because he's hitting them with straight ahead game in the short term.

I think more than finding commonalities - he basically needs to increase his social status in the scene. But I've already laid that out. And he's dabbling in promoter game.

WIA

KD's issue is that he's just in the wrong place. Clubs in Germany have always always been like this...even back when I was clubbing every weekend 12 years ago.

Then you go to a place like Barcelona or Kiev and the women are more open and the club atmosphere is 180 degrees from what you'll find in Germany.

Clubs work against you here when it comes to high end girls because there's an expectation that if she's very pretty then she doesn't need to meet a guy in a club...it's as prestigious to her as drinking water out of a bucket...that's only for the girls who are really thirsty....it's totally backwards I know and makes no sense however that's why regardless of how good you are or how good you look you're usually just wasting a lot of time in clubs.

Another reason is that a lot of German girls will get a boyfriend at 15 and basically keep him for about 8-9 years because its a "stable" relationship.
So even the high end girls who are single are not particularly going to be social and open to cold approach when they get to the club.
One exception is foreign girls....they don't usually have the same attitude.

You really have to get into those situations where's it's one on one for 15-20 minutes away from a club environment.
Places like trains and events are much better for an approach...even cafes are preferable to clubs.

To be honest though you're best bet is travel to Eastern Europe. The mentality there is different and much more open.
In places like Hungary, Poland, Ukraine etc they don't have such a closed off attitude when it comes to meeting guys in clubs.
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(03-14-2017 01:03 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  You can look only so good. Your physique and style can only go so far.

Assuming you can get some semi-privacy, and then run your verbal game unrestricted - I'm betting a lot of the higher end chicks don't let you really put them in a situation where they can act naturally.

Is that what you're running into when you try to break out of the 6-7 purgatory?

WIA

I was wondering this myself. With day/night cold approach game, you still run the risk of running into non-compatible bishes which requires an investment of your time to discover if she's smashable or not. However, if you're at the point in your life where you're just smashing to be smashing, I guess it really wouldn't matter if you really like or enjoy a broads company.

Contrarily, to me, this is where circle game comes into play. If she's at a lecture on modern contemporary urban art, then chances are you share some similar interests, versus if this chic is at a night club tossing back drinks.
Without alcohol, is has become nearly impossible for me to enjoy pursing and smashing bishes who's company I don't necessarily care for.

My take on KD's issue is that he can only get so far with the upper echelon chicks because he's hitting them with straight ahead game in the short term.

I think more than finding commonalities - he basically needs to increase his social status in the scene. But I've already laid that out. And he's dabbling in promoter game.

WIA

(03-14-2017 02:29 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 01:31 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  My take on KD's issue is that he can only get so far with the upper echelon chicks because he's hitting them with straight ahead game in the short term.

I think more than finding commonalities - he basically needs to increase his social status in the scene. But I've already laid that out. And he's dabbling in promoter game.

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Could it be the upper tier gals want the ballers/club owners, not the promoter handing out flyers?

My take on this:

The white German guys are somehow getting these girls. They aren't using anything that I am not using. I have seen the cold approach work with my own eyes. They aren't celebrities, promoters, bottle boys or anything like that. Not to say that these things dont help you at all.. But I have seen guys with ZERO status (other than being good looking) slaying 8+ here.

One my boys uses Tinder and he slays 8s (wouldnt say 9s).. and that motherfucker is just a Native decent looking German and he DOES NOT have any special value and I don't have.

There isn't a promoter scene out here in Germany like the US so there aren't promoters running tables and getting girls in and free drinks or anything like that. There are like 2 or 3 guys organizing events at nightclubs and of course those guys feast on 8s and 9s like any other city.

I tried this last year but chose the wrong nightclub and it backfired on me.

I have tried to break into their social circle a little bit and probably could but I would have to "buy" my way into it (Those guys sell tables) Don't think its worth it.

Baller and bottle game does work here as well but I wouldn't say you NEED it to get the upper level girls but I am 100% it would work but it would cost you thousands to get that 9. That money would be better invested in yourself and your hustle.

I don't think I have maxed out yet on looks... I have some things I want to work on (sleeve tattoo, teeth whitening, more size, six pack, cleaning up some facial issues)

but first comes the consistency (which shows you that you are on the right track) and then will come the increase attractiveness of the girls. I am getting that consistency with those 6s and 7s now more than ever before.

I have come from the bottom before when I first started game and this is the exact pattern it followed. Its a marker to show you are on to something. So I feel I am on the best track since landing in the country but its just a matter of breaking through that last plateau.

I am not light years away its just figuring out what is going to get me to that next level.

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(03-14-2017 01:31 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  My take on KD's issue is that he can only get so far with the upper echelon chicks because he's hitting them with straight ahead game in the short term.

I think more than finding commonalities - he basically needs to increase his social status in the scene. But I've already laid that out. And he's dabbling in promoter game.

WIA

Could it be the upper tier gals want the ballers/club owners, not the promoter handing out flyers?

We've touched on this before.

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This girl can get a guy with money, muscles, height, cool, looks...

What is she after?
- minute to minute
- not-so-immediate

In the deep background, she wants husband, children, a good life.
She's pretty enough to DEMAND that now from any top level guy.
^ This is the provider strategy.


Minute to Minute - she wants full mental engagement. Love, hate, fun, disgust, food, lights, music...
^This is the one-on-one game. This is interrupting her, cutting her off, making her feel odd, the roller coaster, pushing her away, pushing her towards you. That's the game we usually talk about. The interplay of personalities and playing on her second-to-second psychology.

Assuming cultural and language familiarity - what is the chick after in the not-so-immediate.

She wants drama right now.
She wants kids in the future.

But what sort of image does she have for herself?
Where does she want to be seen?

When a girl this fine goes to the club, she can get drugs, drinks, and dick.

But in my experience - these chicks always want something slightly beyond their reach.

She wants to slay.

So if she's the prettiest chick in her area, at her club,and gets everything - there's a bigger pond for her to swim in and get to the top of.

That's basically where I think the game has to go. You need to be not just at her club, but above her within her peer group, or in a better peer group.

Me, I might know all the dj's in town. So some random chick that's not in the scene, a chick that's in gen pop, sees me schmooze with all these "high status" people - and that draws her attention to me. I'm more attractive to her, because she sees herself on a higher plateau than "all these other basic bitches".

The girl IN THE SCENE, i'm just her peer. She knows all the same people. At least we can talk, at least we can be at the same afterparty. She can get to know me and like me - like a typical social circle. Within the circle, I might not be the top dog. She might just tolerate me, and not really check for me.

But what if I not only know the local dj's, I bring Migos to the city. I'm in Jay Z's entourage. When Rihanna comes to town, I'm in that posse?

I look the same - but she wants to climb. She wants to be friend with those sorts of people. She wants to raise her own stature in this fantasy social order that she believes in, that a lot of people believe in.

Ask yourself this question.

If you find yourself at a club would you rather be
- a poor male model
- a rich regular guy
- a local celebrity

For a high end girl, she can get pretty boys and rich guys - but social currency is much more attractive to her.

KD seems to be the position where he could stack ends, he could look better - but these 8+ German chicks wouldn't be throwing themselves at him.

Now if he was rolling with higher status GUYS, and chicks - suddenly these hot bitches from backwoods Germany would value him more. He's not just another smooth brother out there, but he's someone that she needs to know.

A regular chick just needs game.
A chick that's operating within a social hierarchy - like you see in the night life - she needs more than just the one-on-one game.

Lot of the hottest chicks in your city - you'll never see - because you aren't in VIP, you don't know about the pre-party and after-party, you aren't in those circles. That level of bitch isn't really going to clubs.

And if you do encounter that "objective" level of beauty - chances are high that she's attracted to the social and the physical and behavioral.

The advantage the promoter has against good looking guy at the club - is that he's harnessing the social mind of hot chicks.

It's not enough that she's hot and can get stuff- she wants to be seen - by other top level bitches - and wants to slay them.

You guys can search for bodybuilder/billionaire wives and basically confirm what I'm saying. But famous guys - guys that work on the social aspect of the game - they an order of magnitude better.

For the purposes of pulling chicks, I'd rather be Vitaly or some Youtube "Star" than some nameless Facebook millionaire.

You are correct that I need to elevate my social status out here and the ONLY way for me to do this is to become a "event organizer/promoter" for a nightclub here where 100+ chicks know that I am the key holder to everything. This is the ULTIMATE solution out here to winning the game..


(03-14-2017 03:42 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 01:31 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 01:27 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 01:03 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  You can look only so good. Your physique and style can only go so far.

Assuming you can get some semi-privacy, and then run your verbal game unrestricted - I'm betting a lot of the higher end chicks don't let you really put them in a situation where they can act naturally.

Is that what you're running into when you try to break out of the 6-7 purgatory?

WIA
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I was wondering this myself. With day/night cold approach game, you still run the risk of running into non-compatible bishes which requires an investment of your time to discover if she's smashable or not. However, if you're at the point in your life where you're just smashing to be smashing, I guess it really wouldn't matter if you really like or enjoy a broads company.

Contrarily, to me, this is where circle game comes into play. If she's at a lecture on modern contemporary urban art, then chances are you share some similar interests, versus if this chic is at a night club tossing back drinks.
Without alcohol, is has become nearly impossible for me to enjoy pursing and smashing bishes who's company I don't necessarily care for.

My take on KD's issue is that he can only get so far with the upper echelon chicks because he's hitting them with straight ahead game in the short term.

I think more than finding commonalities - he basically needs to increase his social status in the scene. But I've already laid that out. And he's dabbling in promoter game.

WIA

KD's issue is that he's just in the wrong place. Clubs in Germany have always always been like this...even back when I was clubbing every weekend 12 years ago.

Then you go to a place like Barcelona or Kiev and the women are more open and the club atmosphere is 180 degrees from what you'll find in Germany.

Clubs work against you here when it comes to high end girls because there's an expectation that if she's very pretty then she doesn't need to meet a guy in a club...it's as prestigious to her as drinking water out of a bucket...that's only for the girls who are really thirsty....it's totally backwards I know and makes no sense however that's why regardless of how good you are or how good you look you're usually just wasting a lot of time in clubs.

Another reason is that a lot of German girls will get a boyfriend at 15 and basically keep him for about 8-9 years because its a "stable" relationship.
So even the high end girls who are single are not particularly going to be social and open to cold approach when they get to the club.
One exception is foreign girls....they don't usually have the same attitude.

You really have to get into those situations where's it's one on one for 15-20 minutes away from a club environment.
Places like trains and events are much better for an approach...even cafes are preferable to clubs.

To be honest though you're best bet is travel to Eastern Europe. The mentality there is different and much more open.
In places like Hungary, Poland, Ukraine etc they don't have such a closed off attitude when it comes to meeting guys in clubs.

Well this is why part of my 2017 Game goals is to expand to Day Game starting June 1st.

I have never used it and I don't think its going to work....

These 8+ in Germany will have walls where ever they go but hey let see... I think the wall might be more penetrable during the day than night but I think the same "its nice meeting you" blowout will come none the less.. but i can't knock something I haven't tried yet. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Its why I am fighting on Tinder.

Travel to Poland and other countries is also up on my list but I think its a short term solution to a long term problem. I mean I go to EE or Scandinavia or Russia and smash an 8+ and then come back to Germany and land right back in the same situation than I was in before. Its either figure it out here or get the fuck out the country.

I am scouting other countries to move to in the next 5 years anyway so I think its still good to go for experience and widening horizons.

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(03-14-2017 04:33 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Well this is why part of my 2017 Game goals is to expand to Day Game starting June 1st.

I have never used it and I don't think its going to work....

These 8+ in Germany will have walls where ever they go but hey let see... I think the wall might be more penetrable during the day than night but I think the same "its nice meeting you" blowout will come none the less.. but i can't knock something I haven't tried yet. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Its why I am fighting on Tinder.

I'm glad you caught this. I once won a basketball everyone for themselves scrimmage with a left handed hook shot from the three point line (some Guyanese guy was D'ing me up like I stole his wife). I hadn't used it and I didn't think it was going to work.

I feel your pain, bruv but if you want it (those 8s and above for your LTR), you will get it.

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Germany is such a centralized location that it doesn't really matter if girls in your local area
are being difficult and standoffish. You just rotate through the continent. Distances aren't really
that big of a deal.

Personally I prefer dating girls who live at least an hour away...that way you don't get caught up in the
day to day which can ruin your productivity.

A long time ago, I wanted to start running facebook ads in Germany to build a larger social circle...
however I've haven't really needed it...once you add in working on your business, staying fit
and traveling it's really tough to balance more than 2-3 girls at a time...

That being said, places like Poland are just waiting for a brother...seriously...they really know how to appreciate us:-)
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(03-14-2017 05:04 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  Germany is such a centralized location that it doesn't really matter if girls in your local area
are being difficult and standoffish. You just rotate through the continent. Distances aren't really
that big of a deal.

Personally I prefer dating girls who live at least an hour away...that way you don't get caught up in the
day to day which can ruin your productivity.

A long time ago, I wanted to start running facebook ads in Germany to build a larger social circle...
however I've haven't really needed it...once you add in working on your business, staying fit
and traveling it's really tough to balance more than 2-3 girls at a time...

That being said, places like Poland are just waiting for a brother...seriously...they really know how to appreciate us:-)

Yes you mentioned that on the pod and a few other guys have highlighted that too!!

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WIA is so right about youtube game. I watch a youtuber who is a average looking 45 yr old, low stakes Vegas poker player, that dresses like a child. He lived in an apartment with no furniture (just an air mattress, computer, and a desk). For the 2 years I've watched his vlog, he NEVER got laid. But within the last year, his channel has gained over 20K new subscribers. As soon as he gets some popularity, here comes the former fitness model turned real estate agent with fake tits and beach blonde hair. Now he's dating her and getting loads of gifts in the mail from his loyal followers. The power of fame, even D-list youtube fame, is very powerful. All he does is walk around Vegas getting shots of the strip and shows some random poker hands.

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(03-14-2017 05:04 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  Germany is such a centralized location that it doesn't really matter if girls in your local area
are being difficult and standoffish. You just rotate through the continent. Distances aren't really
that big of a deal.

Personally I prefer dating girls who live at least an hour away...that way you don't get caught up in the
day to day which can ruin your productivity.

A long time ago, I wanted to start running facebook ads in Germany to build a larger social circle...
however I've haven't really needed it...once you add in working on your business, staying fit
and traveling it's really tough to balance more than 2-3 girls at a time...

That being said, places like Poland are just waiting for a brother...seriously...they really know how to appreciate us:-)

You are correct. I have two plates right now and I can't imagine running 3. No time for that kind of crap anymore.

Poland is number 1 on my next travel location.... Don't worry I haven't fell asleep at the wheel haha. The prices are super solid and its not far and planes fly directly from here to there.

Warsaw looked great. What cities do you suggest?

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