(03-05-2017 12:13 AM)dain_bramage Wrote:  I learned a lesson yesterday. I was on the facebook. I got into an argument about Islam and the situation in Sweden specifically news that they are bringing back the draft or somethin.. Suffice to say it was a waste of time. Remember that open gates video? I used that as evidence of a problem happening in Europe and it was dismissed as 'fake news' and I was called: "batshit crazy". I think I will keep my thoughts to myself on the face derp. I will never be able to red pill people especially nu- male betas. Its a waste of time. You can show videos and articles that prove the migration is an invasion and that Europe is committing demographic suicide but then you get painted as being 'hateful' or 'islamophobic' or they say all the typical NAMALT stuff and say not to paint a whole religion with one brush. Sigh. I even mentioned Tours, Vienna 1683, Constantiniople but the nu- male didn't have the ability to recognize patterns or any idea of history. Its very depressing out there. People will live in a state of denial until its too late to deal with the problem. Their women will die or get raped and they will simply let it happen without a word.

I think last year I finally learned to stop posting anything connected to topics such as globalism, islam, terrorism, etc. to websites/forums/discussion that are known to have lots of these blue pill SJWs.

Its simply too much of a hassle. Programming is so deeply embedded into their brains that they simply cannot see anything except narrative they have been fed.

Since that time, I learned to stop caring about them and trying to educate them.
I say let those who do not wish to learn perish.
It happens that when one person is faced danger, it finally snaps out of programming and starts to think for themselves. In that case, when terror becomes too great, those who will not perish have chance of actually getting full picture.

(03-01-2017 09:07 PM)Transsimian Wrote:  Where females fear to tread: KATIE HOPKINS reports from Sweden, the Scandi-lib paradise where terrified women have vanished from the streets and a conspiracy of silence and self-censorship on immigration buries the truth
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...weden.html

I missed this the other day. It's a powerful article and you shouldn't be afraid to post quotes from it.

The one that grabbed me the most was this one:

Quote:She doesn't want her picture to be seen now. Not in case the migrants attack again, but because the feminists will come after her and hound her as a racist for speaking out. The migrant men scare her. But it is Swedish women who have silenced her.

We call islam a death cult but feminism is far more a death-cult than islam. Fourth wave feminism is literally a demand for non-fertility and cultural suicide. It is is the Jim Jones of modern activism, and it's not enough for them to take volunteers to the kool-aid punch bowl. They want to drag the rest, kicking and screaming.

I want to share typical example of Croatian SJWs and what arguments they have when defending Islam. To clarify, they don't have any arguments but they will constantly use following example:

"Why don't you look at Bosnian muslims, they eat everything, drink alcohol, smoke and fuck before marriage. There is nothing to worry about regarding Islam in Europe, when we even have Bosnia as neighbor."

But here is thing what they don't understand. Bosnia fell under Ottoman rule in 1463 and since than had been mostly muslim. Currently has population that is 50% muslim, rest being roman catholicism and orthodox christian, but during Ottomans it was more than 50% muslim.
Interesting thing to note is that Bosnians are same Slavic group as Croatians and it was frequent in medieval Bosnian history for Croatian nobles to be part of nobility of Bosnia. Converted Slavs are not really compatible with Islam. I read that race is important with such matters, but I am not completely sure if that is true, these things are sometimes considered to be "fringe science." But I digress here.

What I want to say that these Bosnian muslims who "drink alcohol, smoke and fuck before marriage" are not PROPER muslims. They would probably be considered heretical by ISIS and ISIS would likely kill them.

Only real proper muslims in Bosnia are their islamic scholars and wahhabis. Meet village called "Oshve".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%C5%A1ve


These are "proper" Bosnian muslims. Would you be surprised that this village has produced few of ISIS fighters?

This village would in upcoming war be probably only untouched place in Bosnia and would likely be one of the training grounds.

Besides, these "drinking, pork eating muslims" would be quick to see the writing on the wall. They would be told "redeem yourself through jihad" and would do exactly that.

What's the alternative? Fight along side the Christians? Pfft. Unlikely. You might as well live next to a million tigers on the basis that "they're really very friendly on account of them being well fed".

Shit changes.

Race plays a role only partly - what likely impacts Bosnians more were the decades of communism secular rule and even the recent rather more secular lifestyle.

But make no mistake - hundreds if not thousands of Bosnians have left for ISIS: http://www.businessinsider.com/bosnia-is...15-12?IR=T

And true Islam is on the rise in Bosnia again: http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/artic...generation

I expect the next generation to be far more radical. Race is a secondary issue here - the Germans would be far more dangerous as a radical Islamic Republic. Intelligence can be a buffer between more moronic behavior and adherence to worst rules of sharia or it can be worse than that because the smart population starts to take things seriously suddenly and is far more ruthless.

Here the case of the two Bosnian teenage girls who moved to Austria, lived their lives in secular Austria and then later suddenly decided to join ISIS which did not end well for them: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...Syria.html


Bosnia will tilt towards a Caliphate in weeks when it happens across Europe. Look for example to Pakistan and India - both highly similar tribes but oh so different in temperament. Or let us take a gander at the Ottoman Sultans and their Janissar soldiers - they were mostly of European descent - many redhaired or even blond. Take also good note of the Western converts - the smartest ones become quite radical because they actually read the texts and adhere to the true religion of Islam.

Nah - Bosnia will go down in blood and fire.

What is even more ugly fact is that Bosnia neighboring country of Serbia, Macedonia and Croatia, so that means we will be targeted probably closely after it fells under caliphate or whatever islamic faction.

(03-05-2017 06:08 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Besides, these "drinking, pork eating muslims" would be quick to see the writing on the wall. They would be told "redeem yourself through jihad" and would do exactly that.

What's the alternative? Fight along side the Christians? Pfft. Unlikely. You might as well live next to a million tigers on the basis that "they're really very friendly on account of them being well fed".

Shit changes.

Succinct and to the point. I'm in stitches here

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/...ossen.html

Quote:The assignment order was that the refusal of refugees did not fail in the autumn of 2015 due to a lack of political will. In the crucial hour no leading politician wanted to take the responsibility.

Contrary to what is known so far, leading politicians of the CDU / CSU and SPD in September 2015 agreed to reject refugees at the German-Austrian border. This is shown by research for the book "Die Gegetriebenen - Merkel's Refugee Policy. Report from the Inside of Power "by journalist Robin Alexander, which will be published in the Siedler-Verlag on March 13th, and will be previewed exclusively in the" Welt am Sonntag ".

On Saturday, September 12th, at 5.30 pm, a telephone conference was held, attended by Federal Chancellor Angela Merkel, Chancellor Peter Altmaier, Interior Minister Thomas de Maizière (all CDU), CSU Chairman Horst Seehofer and Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier (SPD) and head of the SPD Sigmar Gabriel.

In this telephone conference, they not only agreed to introduce border controls on the following day at 6 pm. Rather, the top politicians also agreed that refugees should be rejected at the border.

The original order, which the leadership of the federal police wrote, expressly indicated the police officers' rejection of migrants without necessary papers "even in the case of an asylum application". On the night of Sunday, police officers from all over Germany were ordered to the border. Buses and even helicopters were used to transport them.

However, during the concrete deployment planning at the Ministry of the Interior on Sunday, 13 September, officials expressed legal concerns. Thereupon, Minister of the Interior de Maizière left the deliberations and called Angela Merkel. The Chancellor did not make a decision, but demanded from her ministerial assurances that the border settlement would be in the hands of courts and that there were also no pictures of the use of the Bundeswehr against refugees which were difficult to convey.

Minister of the Interior de Maizière then discussed with his Secretaries of State, leading officials and police officers whether these guarantees could be given. He then left the meeting one more time for a telephone call. This time he took the view of the coalition partner SPD.

Without the required guarantees neither the Chancellor nor the Minister of the Interior were prepared to order the border settlement for refugees already agreed with the coalition partner on the previous day. Finally, the already completed order of the federal police was rewritten. It has now been ordered that "third-country nationals are to be permitted to enter without documents which are legally binding documents and with an asylum claim." This meant that there should be a check - but one where everyone who said asylum was admitted, whether he came from a safe third country or a safe country of origin.

The rejection of refugees therefore did not fail in the autumn of 2015, as hitherto suspected, of a lack of political will. Rather, the political decision had already been made. There was no leading German politician in the decisive hour, who was ready to assume the responsibility.

This is highly interesting. If its true they did not reject those people because non of them in charge had the balls to stand with the decision. I'm quite sure the media would go on rampage on them, citizens would scream in anger, we would see sad pictures. And then finally those in charge risk to get not elected again and stand in front of a court for their actions. Well but now they did break German and EU law as well and face no negative consequences.

Anyway, next week I will buy my rifle...

Austria goes far more into my direction of political views then German, even that I'm from Bavaria. I read something interesting, its how the escape of Nazis into the area of upper Austria did shape the political views till today.
http://www.cesifo-group.de/de/ifoHome/pu...d=19190307

Beside that Austrians Foreign Minister has some nice views:
https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/arti...alkan.html

Quote:The Austrian Foreign Minister, Sebastian Kurz, has voted for EU refugees for refugees in Georgia or on the West Balkans. "We need refugee centers outside the EU, which are run jointly with UNHCR (UN Refugee Agency)," said the politician of the conservative Austrian People's Party (ÖVP) of "Bild am Sonntag".

Where such camps are, is not decisive. "It is important that they provide protection and that people who are illegally on their way to Europe are brought back there. Such facilities could be located in countries such as Egypt, Georgia or a country in the West Balkans. "

All bullshit - it happened because they wanted it to happen - a combined effort of Merkel, German politicians, NGOs, media and corporations. This does not happen just like that, because most rapefugees are not even from the refugee camps of Syria, but they are from Iraq, Afghanistan, North Africa, Africa etc. Their life conditions were shit 15 years ago as well.

Jacques Attali wrote in 2006 that the flow of 3rd world migrants to the West were numbering hundreds of thousands, they would soon go to the millions (right now - US & EU is getting roughly 5 mio. per year) and according to Attali the flow will rise to tens of millions! So the worst is yet to come. We haven't seen anything yet.

(03-05-2017 07:46 AM)Parzival Wrote:  Austria goes far more into my direction of political views then German, even that I'm from Bavaria. I read something interesting, its how the escape of Nazis into the area of upper Austria did shape the political views till today.
http://www.cesifo-group.de/de/ifoHome/pu...d=19190307

Beside that Austrians Foreign Minister has some nice views:
https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/arti...alkan.html

Quote:The Austrian Foreign Minister, Sebastian Kurz, has voted for EU refugees for refugees in Georgia or on the West Balkans. "We need refugee centers outside the EU, which are run jointly with UNHCR (UN Refugee Agency)," said the politician of the conservative Austrian People's Party (ÖVP) of "Bild am Sonntag".

Where such camps are, is not decisive. "It is important that they provide protection and that people who are illegally on their way to Europe are brought back there. Such facilities could be located in countries such as Egypt, Georgia or a country in the West Balkans. "

Nope - the current ruling party is not to be trusted - these are just words without actions.

The liberal FPO is the only one that MIGHT DO SOMETHING - I have said might, because we cannot be sure about that either just as the voters knew that Donald Trump was the ONLY CANDIDATE who at least might do something about it - and the jury is still out whether he can actually do something.

Austria by the way has accepted close to 100.000 rapefugees into the country - many of them will get asylum and will not be deported. Some areas are already like Little Mogadishu and I talked about my recent trip to Vienna.

I agree on that, Merkel did reduce the money for refugee camps and the help for Greece, Italy and Spain a decade ago. Also there had be researches about the rise of migrants since 10 to 15 years. This example is more a proof how Merkel operates. Since 2005 in charge she keep in power. Why? Because she avoid any decisions. She is called Teflon Merkel because everything slips away from her. When you don't move, when you don't do anything, at first you look like a calm person that know whats going on. So people trust you, especially in fast changing times. Just after some time a few realise, your way of not taking action is not because you have an idea or a plan, its just because you avoid anything at all.

Maybe in this certain moment they had other plans in the box but at the end it was the Merkel way again. Let it all just happen. I also was in Salzbug, in the tourist district. Some gypsy / arab beggars, so far not many of them. The night life is a little different, then you seem them rush into a club with 10 people. I do my preparation. And of course non of them in charge can be trusted to serve the interest of the people.

I think last year I finally learned to stop posting anything connected to topics such as globalism, islam, terrorism, etc. to websites/forums/discussion that are known to have lots of these blue pill SJWs.

Its simply too much of a hassle. Programming is so deeply embedded into their brains that they simply cannot see anything except narrative they have been fed.

Since that time, I learned to stop caring about them and trying to educate them.
I say let those who do not wish to learn perish.
It happens that when one person is faced danger, it finally snaps out of programming and starts to think for themselves. In that case, when terror becomes too great, those who will not perish have chance of actually getting full picture.
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This is why I like this forum. I get to converse with will red men that aren't blinded.You guys in general are awesome! I enjoy reading the posts on here. A lot of it is gold.

Its definitely a waste of time trying to convince people. I think I'll just stick to posting status of my garden. I had someone on my facebook saying my posts were very angry. Oh man if she knew what is going on in my homeland she would be angry too. The will full ignorance is astounding.

(03-05-2017 05:07 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 09:07 PM)Transsimian Wrote:  Where females fear to tread: KATIE HOPKINS reports from Sweden, the Scandi-lib paradise where terrified women have vanished from the streets and a conspiracy of silence and self-censorship on immigration buries the truth
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...weden.html

I missed this the other day. It's a powerful article and you shouldn't be afraid to post quotes from it.

The one that grabbed me the most was this one:

Quote:She doesn't want her picture to be seen now. Not in case the migrants attack again, but because the feminists will come after her and hound her as a racist for speaking out. The migrant men scare her. But it is Swedish women who have silenced her.

We call islam a death cult but feminism is far more a death-cult than islam. Fourth wave feminism is literally a demand for non-fertility and cultural suicide. It is is the Jim Jones of modern activism, and it's not enough for them to take volunteers to the kool-aid punch bowl. They want to drag the rest, kicking and screaming.

I used that article in a facebook conversation.

(03-05-2017 06:15 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Bosnia will tilt towards a Caliphate in weeks when it happens across Europe. Look for example to Pakistan and India - both highly similar tribes but oh so different in temperament. Or let us take a gander at the Ottoman Sultans and their Janissar soldiers - they were mostly of European descent - many redhaired or even blond. Take also good note of the Western converts - the smartest ones become quite radical because they actually read the texts and adhere to the true religion of Islam.

Nah - Bosnia will go down in blood and fire.

Another striking example is Christian Ethiopia vs. Islamic Somali. Once place so dangerous the UN cannot go, the other place so amazing it gets nothing but glowing reviews. About as far apart as North and South Dakota.

Race isn't the be all end all people think it is. The Whites were significantly dumber in the past.

The Sauds used to be a much lighter color, but after importing 10 million+ Black sex slaves they became the dark mocha color most people associate Islam with today.

Also - I'm not Ashkenazi Jew, I'm an old school actual semite from the Middle East. My European is mostly English.

(03-05-2017 01:40 PM)dain_bramage Wrote:  I think last year I finally learned to stop posting anything connected to topics such as globalism, islam, terrorism, etc. to websites/forums/discussion that are known to have lots of these blue pill SJWs.

Its simply too much of a hassle. Programming is so deeply embedded into their brains that they simply cannot see anything except narrative they have been fed.

Since that time, I learned to stop caring about them and trying to educate them.
I say let those who do not wish to learn perish.
It happens that when one person is faced danger, it finally snaps out of programming and starts to think for themselves. In that case, when terror becomes too great, those who will not perish have chance of actually getting full picture.

This is why I like this forum. I get to converse with will red men that aren't blinded.You guys in general are awesome! I enjoy reading the posts on here. A lot of it is gold.

Its definitely a waste of time trying to convince people. I think I'll just stick to posting status of my garden. I had someone on my facebook saying my posts were very angry. Oh man if she knew what is going on in my homeland she would be angry too. The will full ignorance is astounding.
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I hear you brother.
I had the same dilemma on social media particularly Facebook.
It's largely a pointless venture posting anything red pill on Facebook, yes perhaps one or two will respond positively but they will be outnumbered by others scolding you for posting such truths, and I don't even mean sjw types, I mean normal folk who are also brainwashed and don't want anyone to rock the boat.
This especially applies to women and beta-esque men, for them, peer approval is paramount, they cannot be seen to approve of anything red pill, and some will actively seek out truth tellers and publicly admonish them for daring to mention migrants/women/lgbt folks, etc in anything but the most glowing of terms, this is so as to garner likes and virtual slaps on the back for being so tolerant and being good little sheep.
There's very little prospect of getting through to people on Facebook as these people will just try to publicly shame you or derail the conversation or try to straw man you.
Few have the ability to think critically and those that do get drowned out by the aforementioned sheep.
A better idea is to write a blog, like on medium.com for instance, and flesh out your thoughts there.
When you're done, share the link on social media and you will get less traffic but the ones that bother to read your articles will probably be at least somewhat open minded or open to reason, that's been my experience anyway.

(03-05-2017 01:40 PM)dain_bramage Wrote:  I think last year I finally learned to stop posting anything connected to topics such as globalism, islam, terrorism, etc. to websites/forums/discussion that are known to have lots of these blue pill SJWs.

Its simply too much of a hassle. Programming is so deeply embedded into their brains that they simply cannot see anything except narrative they have been fed.

Since that time, I learned to stop caring about them and trying to educate them.
I say let those who do not wish to learn perish.
It happens that when one person is faced danger, it finally snaps out of programming and starts to think for themselves. In that case, when terror becomes too great, those who will not perish have chance of actually getting full picture.

This is why I like this forum. I get to converse with will red men that aren't blinded.You guys in general are awesome! I enjoy reading the posts on here. A lot of it is gold.

Its definitely a waste of time trying to convince people. I think I'll just stick to posting status of my garden. I had someone on my facebook saying my posts were very angry. Oh man if she knew what is going on in my homeland she would be angry too. The will full ignorance is astounding.
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Thats when you should have blocked her from your facebook page.

You cant reason with these people, you should them facts that prove them wrong, the rationalize it away. You prove THAT wrong, and they just continue to do the same thing. Then they try to bombard you with blue pill sjw bullshit. I had a co-worker actually try to argue with me about the whole transgender bathroom thing, he told me that there was NEVER an issue of assault against girls by transgender guys.

I went back to my office and in 30 seconds I found at LEAST 15 such cases. At this point I just stopped talking to him. It seems like people like him WANT the world to burn, maybe because hes a Beta and doesn't get any attention from women, has no kids or will never have the prospect of having kids presented to him. So instead of wanting to keep society healthy, he secretly wants it to burn to the ground.

I think a lot of the Male SJWs are Betas like that. They see the failure of their familes as a child, get taught the wrong things about women, and have an underlying frustration that manifests in this dismantling of society.

MEN build and keep civilization running, period. So, when enough men are unhappy and unsatisfied, without purpose, women, money and no forseeable paths to attain those, they'd rather see that civilization burn down/ I mean what's the point of civilization if I cant get women, and having families is a big risk that:

a)my child will probably be not mine [cucked] (just look at what happens to male strippers at bachelorette parties) - pretty much anywhere in the world

b)ill lose half my shit and or have to pay alimony for 50 years U.S.

c)if a woman says im the father of her child I have to take care of it or be jailed (france)

d)even if there are no child support issues, a woman can just take my kids away and Ill have no legal recourse (Japan)

ON TOP of all the AF/BB that these guys see as they grow up(women dont think guys know, but we know) I totally understand why Betas subscribe to this civilization killing ideology. Hell even I sometimes think that its better off that the world burn (mostly to bring back traditional ideals and to let this generation learn of what all this SJWism leads to - communism and the deaths of over 100 million people. . .again) but then I come back to my senses, as I actually LIKE living in a nice place, warm in the winter and cool in the summer, I actually LIKE having abundant sources of feed, medical care etc etc...

Many of the beta guys, while helping to keep civilization running, are also in the position to destroy it as well. As SOON as enough of them give up. civilization crumbles.

Yeah. I kept getting sucked into the whole political conversations on facebook. I quit for awhile but got back on it. There are some gems of good conversations but the nonsense is getting too much. I can show article after article and video after video and meme after meme but it doesn't work or I get people ridiculing me and being patronizing and holier than thou attitude towards me. On here I get educated for free and with hard truths.


The woman in question is a 60 year old woman I see in town semi regularly. Without getting into too many details if I blocked her or un-friended her I would never hear the end of it. I know her from a place I go to often and it would be awkward.

I just de activated the account a moment ago. I have one guy I like to talk to on there that I can email that is pretty red pilled on the migration issue. Everyone else is a waste of time. If to have friends is to be a cuck and support the horrible invasion of my homelands then I don't want 'friends' on facebook.

Betas will go on the attack against men that don't believe the globalist bullshit but when presented with hard facts about their people being raped and killed they are strangely silent or attack the medium or cry out 'fake news'.

I think one of the red pills I have to take as well as other guys is that by being red pilled and being a part of forums like this one is that you're going to be a minority. You're going to have people fight you tooth and nail because you're committing thought crimes. I'm a lot more inclined to meet up with a lot of you guys than try to become friends with blue pilled people or insanely retarded 'normal' people. Its frustrating. I guess being red pilled brings those moments of anger and depression. My homeland is being ruined and there's little I can say to inform people I know. Its not worth it is it?

I'm glad though that there is not a huge migration going on in my local area but the demographics have changed immensely in the last 20 years. New and larger enclaves in some areas and when I am in town I often feel like a minority in country historically populated with people of similar description as myself. multiculturalism is huge in Canada. Huge. Its pushed on us from early school years.

(03-05-2017 04:30 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Also - I'm not Ashkenazi Jew, I'm an old school actual semite from the Middle East. My European is mostly English.

So - are you Sephardic Jewish? Because semite is more or less a regional heritage thing.

The funny thing is that I recently found out more about my family's heritage - turns out that I am not only German, Russian, Polish, Austrian, Ashkenazi Jewish, but also..... Tatar Muslim! And this is the stuff I know of just going back 200 years.

Hehe - yup - have some former Muslim blood cursing through those veins.

One of my grandpas:

(03-05-2017 05:37 PM)CJ_W Wrote:  I think a lot of the Male SJWs are Betas like that. They see the failure of their familes as a child, get taught the wrong things about women, and have an underlying frustration that manifests in this dismantling of society.

First of all - you guys do it right with Facebook - it is virtually useless to discuss things there. I go rid of most of my Facebook connections and only use it to stay in touch with my extended family.

Before I swallowed the Red Pill I also took the bitter pill of becoming aware of our world system, finance, economy, medicine etc. So I had a lot of posts there. I put them all on private, so no one can see it. I keep it as an archive to myself.

I stopped using Facebook except to check up on friends, family and writing messages. Discussions there are useless - it is essentially going a bit the way of Tumblr - young girls barely use it now.

Snapchat is great for pussy pics and sexting.
Instagram is great for demonstrating higher value and passive female attraction.
Whatsapp is good for international texting.

Facebook only good for bare minimum family/friends communication.

If you want to find out the truth about things, then you can check out among others some specific facebook channels, but better not comment on it, because FB shares everything with everyone. FB has destroyed almost as many marriages as no other social service provider.

Either way - CJW - I don't think that Betas have some self-destructive tendencies. I think that it is mostly brainwashing - they are like a hamster who is in a glass cage while on the other side he sees a TV screen with a nice obedient Beta hamster who gets pussy because he is a nice and loving Beta hamster - all the women, all of academia, all of entertainment and all of media tell them so! So it must be true - the reason he is not getting it all must be just bad luck. Essentially the Betas are eternal buyers of female lottery tickets. They just haven't been lucky yet.

Yes - it is madness, but they are just hamsters lost in a maze that has this one pussy lottery ticket waiting for them. And all those jerks and chauvinist men getting women - they trick them, Game is a myth, Red Pill is just misogyny and women are great, they never lie to you.

Those guys don't even consider the divorce epidemic - that is just our world and feminism and female nature is not responsible for that.

(03-06-2017 02:14 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  So - are you Sephardic Jewish? Because semite is more or less a regional heritage thing.

Semite is a broader term than Jewish, as it includes Lebanese, Syrians, Palestinians and the like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people

(03-06-2017 02:14 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The funny thing is that I recently found out more about my family's heritage - turns out that I am not only German, Russian, Polish, Austrian, Ashkenazi Jewish, but also..... Tatar Muslim! And this is the stuff I know of just going back 200 years.

Hehe - yup - have some former Muslim blood cursing through those veins.

Could you tell me how did you find that? I am very interested in this kind of research but I am unfamiliar with how it goes. I would like to find out my heritage.

(03-06-2017 04:18 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

(03-06-2017 02:14 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The funny thing is that I recently found out more about my family's heritage - turns out that I am not only German, Russian, Polish, Austrian, Ashkenazi Jewish, but also..... Tatar Muslim! And this is the stuff I know of just going back 200 years.

Hehe - yup - have some former Muslim blood cursing through those veins.

Could you tell me how did you find that? I am very interested in this kind of research but I am unfamiliar with how it goes. I would like to find out my heritage.

Did not hire a family tree researcher - such a service will dig up a lot more.

I found out just by talking with family and checking up on old accounts that my mother and grandmother had, but never really shared - it isn't important to them at all.

Frankly the most valuable gift you can leave your family for generations is massive wealth - takes 400 years from upper class to descend to upper middle.

There were some ancestors that were more well-off, but not that much. Also in the past a lot of wealth has disappeared just by the sheer number of kids they had. My grandmother had 10 siblings and her mother did so too. If you have for example 4 wives and dozens of kids like Roosh's grandfather, then unless you are a billionaire, then not much is left for the children.

This was the main reason the Catholic church eliminated marriage for their priests. Nowadays they could re-introduce it to bolster their ranks, but that church is so infiltrated that the upper ranks probably want it to disappear - I am looking to you Pope "traitor" Francis.

As for ancestry - don't sweat it. You are what you are, you can only make the best out of it. If you don't like what your ancestors have done or your tribe is doing - change it. It always starts with one.

Knowledge from my grandma/grandpa is limited. They know their grandparents and that is it, they barely know time in which they lived.