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RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious
(02-15-2017 06:31 AM)Mercenary Wrote: (02-15-2017 06:17 AM)ExploringReality Wrote: I'm on day 5, I wanted to break it since I broke my dryspell 2 days ago but then I remembered that NoFap probably had a lot to do with losing it in the first place (I was 1 week into when I made plans with the girl, which made me bold IMO). So stopping one of the things that has been helping me is a stupid thing to do. This is being hard, very very hard, but I'm positive I will do it.
You are experiencing something called the "chaser effect".
This happens when you break your NoFap streak by either fapping or by having sex with ejaculation with a girl. Your body gets so pumped up after not having had it for so long it immediately wants to overdose.
Get that same girl back in bed if you want to manage this, or is that not possible ?
Yep, I will turn her into a plate without much problem as it seems. And that was the problem "I'm going to be getting laid, and therefore ejaculating, who cares about no-fap now". But that's a lie I would tell myself, since I'm doing this primarily so that all the sexual satisfaction I get is from real women, aka breaking the porn addiction. I need to keep myself hungry and keep on getting better at game, and no-fap is very very helpful with this goal IMO.
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RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious
(02-15-2017 07:03 AM)ExploringReality Wrote: (02-15-2017 06:31 AM)Mercenary Wrote: (02-15-2017 06:17 AM)ExploringReality Wrote: I'm on day 5, I wanted to break it since I broke my dryspell 2 days ago but then I remembered that NoFap probably had a lot to do with losing it in the first place (I was 1 week into when I made plans with the girl, which made me bold IMO). So stopping one of the things that has been helping me is a stupid thing to do. This is being hard, very very hard, but I'm positive I will do it.
You are experiencing something called the "chaser effect".
This happens when you break your NoFap streak by either fapping or by having sex with ejaculation with a girl. Your body gets so pumped up after not having had it for so long it immediately wants to overdose.
Get that same girl back in bed if you want to manage this, or is that not possible ?
Yep, I will turn her into a plate without much problem as it seems. And that was the problem "I'm going to be getting laid, and therefore ejaculating, who cares about no-fap now". But that's a lie I would tell myself, since I'm doing this primarily so that all the sexual satisfaction I get is from real women, aka breaking the porn addiction. I need to keep myself hungry and keep on getting better at game, and no-fap is very very helpful with this goal IMO.
If you do this correctly, you should notice that you fuck this girl much more often and much more intensely than before because you are not watching porn and not fapping. She should also notice how animal like you are in your attraction and in fucking her and enjoy it a lot more.
Obviously, I can't guarantee this, cause it also depends on both your personalities, physical & mental health and chemistry together, but on a general level this is what should happen when you have a girl you like and never fap again.
Nice profile pic of Arthur Schopenhauer by the way.
(This post was last modified: 02-15-2017 11:34 AM by Mercenary.)
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RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious
(02-16-2017 04:50 AM)tomzestatlu Wrote: I still dont know whats the advantage of keeping this for months. Can somebody tell me? I found out, that one week is probably optimal.
I started nofap last year November, with the intention of reaching a full 90 day reboot. The advantages are too many to list, really, this has been life changing for me. Becoming free of masturbation and especially pornography has just made the world more colorful and given me a sense of inner peace and confidence. I don't want faux sexual validation anymore. I've started actually going out more and my desire to self improve has increased tremendously.
I recommend it to everyone to try, even if you are not a porn addict or affected by PIED, even if you are a functional habitual masturbator or porn consumer.
Give 30 days without porn & masturbation a try and then judge for yourself on the benefits. At the very least, you will have an awesome nut after your first 30 streak
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RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious
Few things
1. I have anecdotally found that yelling, moaning, and all kinds of talking makes me last longer and makes the sex much more enjoyable. When a girl is quiet, the conversation gets one sided and boring...Not enjoying it as much = not as much focus on orgasm control.
2. Good MikeCF article with similar sentiments, talks about how Lion's yell during sex. Conversely beta males don't because they're scared of getting caught.
https://www.dangerandplay.com/2014/02/11...ownership/
3. Dry Spell - this is the hardest (literally) part of NoFap. There have been times when I'm in a dry spell and not having sex and it's absolutely miserable. My "trigger time" (when the urges hit) is usually at night before going to sleep. If I'm awake and high energy I'll get extremely horny trying to go to sleep. During dry spells I make it a point to go EXTRA HARD in the gym to exhaust my body. Cardio is often too time intensive so I'll do finishers at the end of my workout to really drain energy. KB swings, farmers walks, whatever it takes to exhaust my energy.
That being said these are just band aids and the best way to get over a dry spell is to...get laid (big surprise). NoFap helps me stay in the game because I'm always horny. If a healthy sex life is a priority to you, ACT like it. Put the time in and do the work.
4. Tomorrow marks four months no porn no fap
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RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious
(02-20-2017 01:28 PM)Mercenary Wrote: (02-20-2017 12:56 PM)griffinmill Wrote: About masturbation: I fap maybe once every two weeks. I see no harm in doing it occasionally. Once a week is probably the most you should be doing it, and NOT to porn. If you're not masturbating, you will have wet dreams. Your body needs to get rid of that excess sperm. I really don't think there's anything wrong with masturbation in moderation. It's a stress release. If you abstain completely, you'll suffer from premature ejaculation when you're with a girl.
Griffinmill, what is your record numner of days for going without sex and fapping ? I ask because you may start to think differently the longer your abstinence streaks are and the more powerful you become.
Firstly, premature ejaculation due to NoFap is not guaranteed. I certainly haven't experienced that. Often this is simply caused by anxiety with a new girl rather than nofap. Secondly, wet dreams are normal if you quit porn as your brain becomes healthy again. However i do not think this is a long term thing you need to cope with if you go permanently on NoFap. Sex dreams might be more frequent, but wet dreams where you actually cum while sleeping are definetly not as common as you think. You might have a few per year at most. Thirdly, and most importantly you need to give up the idea of masturbation in moderation being ok and as a stress release. It is not. That mindset is for guys who don't want to even try.
You know what is a genuine stress release ?
You together in bed with a hot sexy girl who is begging to be totally ravished over and over again by the wild untamed animal who brought her there.
I'm just going by my own experiences. I would strongly advice against the use of porn for any kind of recreational use, but masturbation I'm on the fence about.
I think the longest I tried no porn and NoFap was for maybe 6 months to a year and it actually resulted in a decrease in my sexual appetite. It was around this time I had a lot of wet dreams. Abstaining didn't make me any hornier.
I never used to be a habitual masturbator anyway (sometimes only once every four days). Now it's once a week or once a fortnight. This doesn't cause me any sexual dysfunction. Complete NoFap would result in some premature ejaculation (especially with a new girl) as I was simply too excited once I was in bed with a girl.
Whatever works for you is fine, and I think no porn/NoFap is entirely honourable and go for it. Especially no porn, which is destructive and harmful and should be avoided at all costs.
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