Post: #126

(02-05-2017 12:54 PM)CaliGuy Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 11:29 PM)The_e_man Wrote:  I'm 5'6" and 23 years old with over 100 lays (whether you want to believe me on that or not is a different story).
So that's one more to add to the list. Though it's important to keep in mind I'm not swimming in pussy by any means. I just go out A LOT, approach A LOT, and get rejected A LOT. That being said, we are 1 month in to 2017 and I already have 5 new lays, with 2 of those 5 being girls that I consider extremely attractive / upper percentile. Another thing to keep in mind though, is I haven't been able to retain either of those two as fuck-buddies or even see them a second time after we banged.
Part of me wants to blame that on my height ... but I'm sure I'll be looking back in a year and thinking differently.

Damn dude, that's amazing.

How did you achieve that? Where/when do you meet women? What's your style of gaming them?

I'm 5'5, 35 years old and my history with women can only be summed up as pathetic. I just haven't figured out how to make women into anything more than friends.

To answer the question above you, I'm in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. City of about 800k people, mostly blue-collar oil patch workers and whatnot. Certainly not a metropolis like Miami or NY but I still love this city and love my home nevertheless.

To answer you question, all 5 were SNL from night game from bars/clubs. It's February 7 and I added two new notches already. I pulled last friday night and saturday night. I definitely have some momentum going for me right now (no idea why) and I'm interested to see how long this streak will keep going or if it's simply a sign of my game reaching next level.
For my style of game, I'm quite direct. Very confident. Give off heavy "fuck boy" vibes that the girls seem to secretly go crazy over. And I'd say that despite being 5'6", I'm decently good looking otherwise which I think helps. Also, my dress shoes aren't technically lifts, but they have a decent sized heel on them (that I purposely picked out) to put me closer to 5' 7 1/2 " which is still "short" but it's not "crazy short."
Considering that girls wear heels, I'm about the same height or taller than half of them. The other half are usually a couple of inches taller than me, with a small minority being much much taller than me.

Post: #127

(02-05-2017 02:46 PM)CaliGuy Wrote:  Being short though does affect a woman's attraction to you, almost always decreasing that attraction. Some men are able to counteract that attraction decrease through their "game." I don't have anything to counteract being short, so women aren't attracted to me and hence only offer me friendship. Then it's my choice to accept that or not.

Why are you concerning yourself with women that don't find you attractive? Women that reject you because of your height tend to be dumber anyway. Saying you don't have anything to counteract being short is already a defeatist attitude. Also, like I said earlier, there's no point in focusing on your height to this degree. When in doubt, don't even think about it. Don't make it an issue. I use to make that mistake. What difference does it make if 100 girls reject you if you find one that really likes you and you like her?

Post: #128

think and grow tall

Post: #129

(02-07-2017 03:21 PM)The_e_man Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 12:54 PM)CaliGuy Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 11:29 PM)The_e_man Wrote:  I'm 5'6" and 23 years old with over 100 lays (whether you want to believe me on that or not is a different story).
So that's one more to add to the list. Though it's important to keep in mind I'm not swimming in pussy by any means. I just go out A LOT, approach A LOT, and get rejected A LOT. That being said, we are 1 month in to 2017 and I already have 5 new lays, with 2 of those 5 being girls that I consider extremely attractive / upper percentile. Another thing to keep in mind though, is I haven't been able to retain either of those two as fuck-buddies or even see them a second time after we banged.
Part of me wants to blame that on my height ... but I'm sure I'll be looking back in a year and thinking differently.

Damn dude, that's amazing.

How did you achieve that? Where/when do you meet women? What's your style of gaming them?

I'm 5'5, 35 years old and my history with women can only be summed up as pathetic. I just haven't figured out how to make women into anything more than friends.

To answer the question above you, I'm in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. City of about 800k people, mostly blue-collar oil patch workers and whatnot. Certainly not a metropolis like Miami or NY but I still love this city and love my home nevertheless.

To answer you question, all 5 were SNL from night game from bars/clubs. It's February 7 and I added two new notches already. I pulled last friday night and saturday night. I definitely have some momentum going for me right now (no idea why) and I'm interested to see how long this streak will keep going or if it's simply a sign of my game reaching next level.
For my style of game, I'm quite direct. Very confident. Give off heavy "fuck boy" vibes that the girls seem to secretly go crazy over. And I'd say that despite being 5'6", I'm decently good looking otherwise which I think helps. Also, my dress shoes aren't technically lifts, but they have a decent sized heel on them (that I purposely picked out) to put me closer to 5' 7 1/2 " which is still "short" but it's not "crazy short."
Considering that girls wear heels, I'm about the same height or taller than half of them. The other half are usually a couple of inches taller than me, with a small minority being much much taller than me.

Interesting. So you are doing very direct night game and it's working. I keep hearing how night game is the worst thing for short guys.

I don't have a clue what "fuck boy" vibes mean. I'm assuming it's something that comes with experience.

Post: #130

(02-09-2017 05:20 PM)ThundercockVeritas Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 02:46 PM)CaliGuy Wrote:  Being short though does affect a woman's attraction to you, almost always decreasing that attraction. Some men are able to counteract that attraction decrease through their "game." I don't have anything to counteract being short, so women aren't attracted to me and hence only offer me friendship. Then it's my choice to accept that or not.

Why are you concerning yourself with women that don't find you attractive?

Because right now it's the majority of women. If most women aren't attracted to me then I'm obviously not going to get anywhere.

Quote:Women that reject you because of your height tend to be dumber anyway.

I'm not really sure about that.

Quote:Saying you don't have anything to counteract being short is already a defeatist attitude. Also, like I said earlier, there's no point in focusing on your height to this degree. When in doubt, don't even think about it. Don't make it an issue. I use to make that mistake.

The fact is that a mans height does affect how women see him. A short man cannot approach women the same way that a tall guy does and hope to succeed.

Yes I may have a defeatist attitude, but I'm also acknowledging how things are. I'm 35 years old and I've only had one girlfriend and that relationship lasted only six months. So obviously something is very wrong. The simplest explanation is that I'm not attracting women because I'm short and don't know how to counteract my height.

Quote:What difference does it make if 100 girls reject you if you find one that really likes you and you like her?

How do I know that it's 1 out of 100 and not 1 out of 1,000?

It's exhausting to like and then get turned down by so many women.

Post: #131

CaliGuy, night game IS the worst for short guys. It's also the worst for ugly guys, and weak looking guys, and fat guys, and shy guys, and quiet guys, and any guy that doesn't have an immediate and dominant physical attraction about them.

Being short IS a detriment, nobody is going to debate that here. But you are making it seem like being short is the only reason you are not seeing success. Height is not the be-all-end-all. Neither is facial attractiveness, neither is muscularity, etc.
To some girls, height is HUGE. To others, they don't mind too too much. To most, it's an important quality of physical attractiveness in their mate, and a tall boyfriend definitely fits the societal standard of an ideal boyfriend. That being said, a lack of height (or looks, or money, or fame, or status, or muscularity, or style) can be counterbalances by excelling in other areas of attractiveness.
Again, I'm 5'6" and I have obtained over 100 notches from cold-approach night game. Was it easy? Fuck no. I had to grind and work and learn and put up with a lot of bullshit over the years. And I'm still learning and refining.

Post: #132

(02-13-2017 03:05 PM)The_e_man Wrote:  CaliGuy, night game IS the worst for short guys. It's also the worst for ugly guys, and weak looking guys, and fat guys, and shy guys, and quiet guys, and any guy that doesn't have an immediate and dominant physical attraction about them.

Got it. As a short quiet guy, it looks like night game is out of the picture.

Quote:Being short IS a detriment, nobody is going to debate that here. But you are making it seem like being short is the only reason you are not seeing success. Height is not the be-all-end-all. Neither is facial attractiveness, neither is muscularity, etc.
To some girls, height is HUGE. To others, they don't mind too too much. To most, it's an important quality of physical attractiveness in their mate, and a tall boyfriend definitely fits the societal standard of an ideal boyfriend. That being said, a lack of height (or looks, or money, or fame, or status, or muscularity, or style) can be counterbalances by excelling in other areas of attractiveness.

The_e_man, that's exactly what I've been saying. A man's lack of height (in my case) needs to be counterbalanced by something else. I'm still trying to figure out what that is.

Quote:But you are making it seem like being short is the only reason you are not seeing success.

That's something I think about a lot. I'm not saying that I don't have faults, though I strongly believe that if I was my 5'10 like my dad, I wouldn't struggle. My faults wouldn't be enough to cancel out my natural attractiveness.

The problem is that as a short guy I'm already at a negative and adding my faults to that just makes me even less attractive.

Quote:Again, I'm 5'6" and I have obtained over 100 notches from cold-approach night game. Was it easy? Fuck no. I had to grind and work and learn and put up with a lot of bullshit over the years. And I'm still learning and refining.

It's very cool that you've put in the work and were able to get good results out of it. It's a great accomplishment.

Though it doesn't seem that you recommend short guys get into night game. Why did you stick to night game? Have you tried other methods?

Post: #133

(02-03-2017 10:58 PM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  To the dudes wearing elevator shoes, lol...as soon as you pull and you take them off, the girl is going to react like...

When you take them off, you are already laying on bed.

Post: #134

I think Tony nailed it.
The only disadvantage is to think that this is a disadvantage.

I'm 5'7, 42 y/o just arrived to Bogota on Saturday, and had a notch the same night.
Next day (yesterday), I met Zeppe, he is also like 5'7 and had 2 notches that day using day game. That guy is killing here.

Then I met a 23 y/o Venezuelan girl in zona T, she is 5'8, and was waiting for her friend. He is like 6.1" 24 y/o, good guy. All of us had a beer, had a good time, but guess what, I was the one ended making out with her in the street. Against all odds.

So please do yourself a favor and forget the height thing. Girls can smell when you hesitate. Yes, lift, dress well, and have an attitude like if you know what you are doing.

Post: #135

(07-23-2016 08:12 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  This poor topic that constantly comes up as a new thread. Your questions and defeats have been answered.

Anyway, I'm 5'4" and:

-the first woman I had a serious relationship with was 5'11"
-the most attractive woman I ever dated was 5'7"
-places I've pulled: clubs, online, classes, parties, traffic(not even while driving), convenience stores, shopping malls, (haven't tried grocery game yet)
-I had a lot of prospects at college. Women would hit on me
-the mother of my child is 3 inches taller than me
-I can get dates online
-I don't wear platform shoes, am not wealthy or particularly muscular most of the time(though this helps all of us)
-My social circle is always small and often non-existent
-

Your mindset, looks or personality are failing most of you.

I couldn't agree more with that last line.

My opinion is that being tall is an advantage, especially in some environments like loud night clubs, but I don't really consider being short to be a disadvantage because women consider such a broad set of factors in men. We all have some disadvantages.

Short guys that don't do well are typically short guys without confidence.

You can do a lot to improve your appearance, improve your logistics, learn game, and find a niche that works well for you. If you put in the work in these areas then you will most likely overcome the confidence issues as well because you will appreciate how much effort you have put in to improve.

Post: #136

(02-13-2017 06:20 PM)CaliGuy Wrote:  Got it. As a short quiet guy, it looks like night game is out of the picture.


The_e_man, that's exactly what I've been saying. A man's lack of height (in my case) needs to be counterbalanced by something else. I'm still trying to figure out what that is.


That's something I think about a lot. I'm not saying that I don't have faults, though I strongly believe that if I was my 5'10 like my dad, I wouldn't struggle. My faults wouldn't be enough to cancel out my natural attractiveness.

The problem is that as a short guy I'm already at a negative and adding my faults to that just makes me even less attractive.


It's very cool that you've put in the work and were able to get good results out of it. It's a great accomplishment.

Though it doesn't seem that you recommend short guys get into night game. Why did you stick to night game? Have you tried other methods?

- Night game is out of the picture if you are quiet because you are shy. You can be quiet and communicate confidently through your eyes and body language and your touch. Are you quiet because you choose to be a man of few words, or are you quiet because you are shy? If it's the latter, you must fix that first before you venture into night game.

- Yes, lack of height must be counterbalanced. You should be happy that it CAN be counterbalanced and thus is not an automatic death sentence. I'll give some pointers for what can be changed: start hitting the gym and eating healthy, start dressing sharper and putting more effort into how you look, start improving your social skills and become more dominant and charming and charismatic.

- If you were 5'10" you'd probably be in the exact same boat except you'd be whining about something else (if only I was rich, if only I had a big dick, if only I had blonde hair and blue eyes, etc.) your mindset has to change brother.

- why did I stick to game? It was either that or be lonely and sexless the rest of my life and settle for a chubby post-wall 6 when I'm in my late 30's and can offer a roof over her head and enough money to put a hot meal in her stomach.
I'd rather get laid or die trying. I have the grind, I have the passion, I have the desire, I have the hunger. You seem to find excuses for yourself. I put my chin down and grind.

A game reference I recommend to you is GoodlookingLoser (do a google search on it and find the site. It's my favourite game site because GoodLookingLoser is one of the few game authorities that admits looks/height are a huge factor but they are not everything.

Post: #137

(02-14-2017 01:20 AM)The_e_man Wrote:  - why did I stick to game? It was either that or be lonely and sexless the rest of my life and settle for a chubby post-wall 6 when I'm in my late 30's and can offer a roof over her head and enough money to put a hot meal in her stomach.
I'd rather get laid or die trying. I have the grind, I have the passion, I have the desire, I have the hunger. You seem to find excuses for yourself. I put my chin down and grind.

Thank you for this.

Post: #138

The topic its not as banal and cliché as it seems.

In general the advice always revolves "mind over height", get yourself in the best shape possible, developping a personality. Which is all correct.

Short players themselves tend to overlook their height, either because they believe (or want to believe) they have transcended their "problem", or because they dont want to adress the matter directly.

For reference, I'm 5"4. I know a buddy Viet player of the same height, who bangs girls across the world.

Very few advice adresses the problem that the world treat short guy differently. Which is both good and bad.

It's very easy to say: "If you carry yourself right, nobody even notices you are short"
Up until some guy wants to AMOG you, and say something along the like of "hey little man" "do you get mistaken for a child sometimes", or try to put their hand on your head.

Sure, you can jibe back. You might even up your DHV in doing so. But it doesnt change the fact that making fun of short guy, is a lot more acceptable than making fun of say, his race.

And this sort of thing happens a lot more often than people seem to realize, if you go out a lot.

In general, girls want a guy taller than they are. Exceptions remain exceptions. There will be a lot of girls who will shut you out mentally before you even speak, who are otherwise sweet, pleasant girls.

The world dont expect short guy to be assertive, so when we do, sometimes the world pushes back.
Take for minor example, it's harder to dress well for cheap because you have to tailor every nice clothes you have.

Its one thing to get a SNL, and another thing to go out with a taller girl and having people wondering "how are you guys together?"
Sure, you dont give a fuck, but that doesnt change the fact that it is one more barrier to deal with.
Not to mention if you have to deal with other taller guys who have game.

This, I think is the central of our problem. It is hard to develop a strong personality when the world pushes against you.
But thats also our strength, because we can very often take girls by surprise. And we dont have to work on being unintimidating.

Knowing this, a short guy can really shine in cold approach and day game. Girls dont expect you to be threatening, and a contrast in expectation/reality can often create attraction.

And being short (like most girls feel around guys), somehow give us a better capacity to empathize with women.
Most (tall) guys dont understand how girls feel when surrounded by taller people.

So that's why I dont agree with most advice along the line of "height isn't a problem" or "dont define yourself by your shortness"
Im rather along the line of "I'm short, that's who I am and that gives me strength"

It's almost cliché, but this quote from Tyrion couldn't be truer.



If you take him as an example, he is fuckawesome, and he wouldnt be so if he wasnt a dwarf. But he has to struggle against the world because of his height.
When you look at his deep failings, it also stems from this.
But in the end, he still turns out a lot better than some tall, good looking blonde incest kin-slayer

Post: #139

Let's all remember that it is men that do the choosing; women simply say yes or no.

Whether you're tall or short has no effect on your ability to pick and approach. Women will always be saying either yes or no to you regardless.

I can't stress the importance of shifting your mindset so that you understand it is YOU that does the choosing enough.

Focus on other factors to boost your success. Approaching more, dressing better, posture, confidence, charm, banter, etc.

Post: #140

If I was short I would target girls my height or shorter.

Post: #141

(02-14-2017 06:09 AM)Nascimento Wrote:  Let's all remember that it is men that do the choosing; women simply say yes or no.

Whether you're tall or short has no effect on your ability to pick and approach. Women will always be saying either yes or no to you regardless.

I can't stress the importance of shifting your mindset so that you understand it is YOU that does the choosing enough.

Focus on other factors to boost your success. Approaching more, dressing better, posture, confidence, charm, banter, etc.

I like this mindset, and adopting this mindset is actually beneficial for most people.
But it simply isn't true. We must call a spade a spade, brother.
Men do the approaching, women do this choosing.
Of course, as Dalarian nicely put it, exceptions will be exceptions. But this is the general rule. I can go on and on about how women are the choosers (when it comes to short term sex), but I will not try and derail this thread too too far off course.

Despite this, adopting this mindset is still helpful. If one can manage to give themselves the illusion that this is true, and live in a state of blissful ignorance, then they would probably see better results than the man that cannot run from the truth. Quite paradoxical...

Post: #142

(02-14-2017 10:45 AM)Meat Head Wrote:  If I was short I would target girls my height or shorter.

Most of the guys are doing that, but for instance in my home country a peculiar paradox happens on a regular basis: girls shorter than average (female average) will not accept a proportionally taller-then-them guy. Instead, they will double down on their shortcoming (pun intended) and only look for guys that are taller than average (male average). I've heard an occasional "He's too tall for me, we'd look ridiculous together." but it's as rare as omega getting laid.

Post: #143

Considering myself not tall, I don't care about height. I had few ex gf 1.76m, 1.80 m and they didn't care about it. Charisma comes with self confidence that's it.

Post: #144

How much times is this topic going to come up, change what you can and ignore what you cant. Look at Roosh he is 6'2 and in good shape if that is all it took he would never have created this site or the forum.

Post: #145

So platforms of an inch or two are out of the question? I wonder whether anyone wears these on the day to day.

Post: #146

(02-14-2017 10:45 AM)Meat Head Wrote:  If I was short I would target girls my height or shorter.

No fucking shit...?

Post: #147

@CaliGuy
I second what the_E_man is telling you.

Is being tall more attractive? Of course.
However what turns most women off about short guys is their insecurity. Insecurity is not masculine.
Most short guys are insecure, by either whining about being short (no offence, but that's your case) or by overcompensating (and acting all alpha and arrogant, but fooling nobody).

Imagine this two scenarios:
the_E_man walks into a bar. Hot women see this short guy with this "fuckboy vibe" as he calls it.
Basically they see a short guy who doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't overcompensate his height, he is just 100% comfortable.
His body language and personal style tell them that this guy, despite being short, has fucked 100s of women.

You walk into a bar. Hot women see a guy who thinks he doesn't deserve to get laid because he is so short. Your body language and behaviour are the ones of a guy who rarely gets laid.

Who will these women find more attractive?

I don't know any of you two, but from your posts, this is the impression I get of how you guys would behave in a bar.



I'm 5'5 and I can't complain about my sex life. I really need to improve my game, but I'm still getting laid as much as I want. I'm still insecure, but I'm working on it.


Girls up to 2 inches taller than you shouldn't be a big deal.
Some girls won't like it. The same way that some girls won't like your hairstyle, or clothing style, or whatever.
But for most girls around your same height or shorter, being taller is just a plus, it adds extra points but it's not a deal breaker.
In your case, focus on other extra points (nice looking teeth, facial grooming, sharp style, deep voice,muscles... you know all of this).

When the girl is >2 inches taller than you... that's another story.
It really depends on the girl and your confidence. The tallest I dated was a 182 cm, which is almost 20 cm taller than me. We fucked for 6 months until I moved out of town. But she was an exception I admit., normally those girls area way out of my reach (quite literally haha)

(02-13-2017 07:16 PM)crispytaco Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:58 PM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  To the dudes wearing elevator shoes, lol...as soon as you pull and you take them off, the girl is going to react like...

When you take them off, you are already laying on bed.

I've tried those shoe inserts that add from 2 to 5 cm depending on the model. Less than 3 cm girls will never notice.

5 cm many girls noticed, all of them fucked me anyways. I didn't even try to hide it, I would just take them out of the shoes in front of them when storing the shoes. If you care, girls will care. If you act like it's not a big deal, they will forget it 5 seconds later.

Now most of the time I don't bother with inserts, but sometimes they are useful.

Post: #148

I am more interested in Average Height game. Should I start a thread on that?

Post: #149

Probably not a good idea...

Post: #150

Men who are shorter in stature should read Carl Jung and Carl Roger's Becoming a Person. Their writings can completely change your philosophy and views about attraction and game in general. DangerandPlay also mentioned Carl Jung as a game secret in his earlier writings.The reason why is that it explores factors of game that is unexplored in the majority of discussions, similar to the way hardly anybody talks about game based on the laws of attraction/correspondence/spiritual laws/quantum laws etc. Evolutionary psychology is the end-all be all for most self-proclaimed Red Pillers and I think that is dangerous because you put a limit to your thinking, and insert a blockage to that part of the mind that can think in terms of infinite possibilities. Call it self-hypnosis, delusion, or whatever cognitive bias word responsible for it but it's a special feeling that is very human and is transferred to others and possibly have an effect of charisma. Later on I somehow was able to wrap this around in terms of archetypal experience. I've been raised in a cult most of my life until 21 when I 'escaped' a few years ago. There were a lot of situations evolutionary psychology can't explain but maybe it could if it somehow factored in spirituality as an attraction.
I've 'outgamed', or simply created my own game vis-a-vis or among(because there is no competition) taller six footer males, white,black, mixed-races, by simply acting in my ways of acting in accordance to principles of my religious upbringing. Some personal stories; When I came to the USA three years at 21, I started off as a dishwasher. I started talking with the manager of the cleaning department of the plaza who was in her late twenties, latina with a pretty face and big ass that all the line cooks liked to watch when she walks around had me take her home and made it somehow obvious in the restaurant that she liked me. I like Latinas in that way in that they can show that kind of affection in front of others. It's nice of her to do that. She wanted to smoke weed with her near her house she told me that wanted me to come to her room but I didn't do it because I was talking with another waitress at the time. Some can say it's a beta move, but I feel good when I can say no. After a month of working at the restaurant the waitress made a situation that I come to her house because a fire broke out(it actually did) and for some reason I felt she wanted me to kiss her. I made out with her and carried her to her bedroom and she told me that I was her boyfriend so it was okay so then I made love her. Another italian waitress at another restaurant made it known that she liked me.I started college recently with my savings and in my first day of class a Latina came up to me and said that I look very familiar. She happened to know my girlfriend and knew me by connections. I felt an instant connection with her and we had a project for class and she wanted to do it together. We went out the second week of college and she wanted to study at the library together. She waited at the studying booth waiting for me. She told me where she was and we sat next together and started reading our books.. She got really close and had earphones on. I took one of her ear phones from her right ear as I was sitting on her left and I put it on my right ear. She was listening to The Weeknd The Hills. She made it into a very intimate and feely atmosphere and I put my hand behind her head and kissed her. She led my hands to her boobs and I started to softly rub her nipples. I licked her nipples and she said she really wants to do it here. But I knew that we would be caught. My friends recommended not to talk to her because she knows my girlfriend. She took me to the bathroom after class one evening but I told her clearly that I cannot do it. She turned out to be a nice woman who is majoring in Law and she didn't cause any drama.
For those whose physical characteristics hurt their game. It matters if you play by the rules that everybody talks about.It doesn't matter if you play a different game. I noticed that when I'm focused on something greater. When I think that I'm moving for a higher purpose, for something more grand, a greater source of energy begins to flow through my body. Everything I do is for something greater If you have a plan and you combine it with this energy of moving towards something greater, you experience those emotions. Maybe it's mirror neurons that people pick up and feel that from you but because we like to make sense in simplistic terms we just say charisma or aura. Also relaxation of the frontal body while having an erect posture helps immensely. I noticed that putting on this body language creates an inner atmosphere that I feel more comfortable and people would notice and smile when they pass by when I walk. Sure you can change your body, build broad shoulders, gain muscle mass etc. You can also create your personal atmosphere and add qualities to it by practice. There is a book by Michael Chekhov on Acting, he's the niece of the russian writer Anton Chekhov. He provides exercises that are taught in acting schools but what's special is his esoteric interest in combining his spiritual insights with practical techniques for acting. For personal atmosphere creation that is a good book. There is so much more factors in game and it seems like the pua blogs and forums are talking the same thing only because the source is the same, evolutionary psychology. I tend to believe that there is something above and beyond our understanding. There's also the factor of nobility. I've seen a lot of things in the church i was brought up in that is strange and mysterious when I think about it now. Gorgeous women, giving up their everything for the sake of a greater(perceived) purpose, that is giving their whole life into a religious teaching. Rich women who donate their life savings and to marry an ugly man who only knew poverty his whole life. We are more than we think we are. It's not only evolutionary psychology. But I think they do have the structure that is that we are constantly seeking for higher, elevation of being and thinking. There's a lot more. I also think that Nobility is something that we overlook as a factor. Women love bad boys for occasional companionship, but to experience a man who is capable of noble feelings takes them on a another plane. Carl Jung calls it the archetypes. There's also the book Metaphors We Live By. Reading these will convince you that we experience in terms of symbols and metaphors and you can then combine that with the kind of metaphors and meanings you can communicate. The atmospheres and meanings you can communicate are infinite and up to your imagination. You can work on your walk, move like a Spartan, or Samurai, a Ronin, A Viking. I live in a Hispanic community and here you see shorter gangsters who walk like Aztec warriors, a guy I know who has been incarcerated in Pelican Bay has a gorgeous wife. He is around 5'3 and the wife is taller than he is. It's a common sight in the community.

The warrior archetype, or acting G, is useful framework. How you walk can communicate those symbols. Mike Cernovich has a great podcast on how to walk. Call it acting Ol'G, Civilized Savage, or Spartan Legionaire. It has intense emotions in it just the way you walk. People would tell me that I know how to walk.I walk steep uphills to develop walking. Anybody can do this. Short, tall it doesn't matter. It's only a difference in style. Different symbology and metaphors and that you 'work with what you have' to create your personal style. People seem to have forgotten about Too Short, shorty the pimp, born to mack. Dostoevsky already predicted how we would think when objective analysis rules our thinking. Alan Watts with his Age of Insecurities. Later we'll see taller people not getting women complain about how their hands are small compared to the ideal ratio of hand size to body size etc, facial symmetry, golden ratio is off etc. We also do the same things with our states with regards to social media, number of likes, shares, video view counts etc. Nietzsche said something similar with Numbers Ruling us all. With this you can clearly see that what's most lacking is our spirit, mindset, personality. I'm still young and relatively new to the game but I felt I needed to say what I feel with regards to our level of spirits and mind.

Excuse my English as I'm practicing more fluency every day. Just wondering how others see these angles to game