Post: #51

(01-24-2012 06:00 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-24-2012 05:06 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  When people talk of Los Angeles, they forget to mention New Port, Dana Point, Calabasas, even Huntington Beach. Granted, some of these places might technically be in Orange County, but still, the point is there are many cities that offer exceptional living, pretty girls, beauty scenery, and safety. Also, while not cheap, a single man, provided he's not looking to live on acreage, can get a nice apartmentand live the player lifestyle!

I am more than familiar with "New Port, Dana Point, Calabasas, even Huntington Beach."

Those places are a Police State Hell Hole of The Highest Order.

Honestly, I wouldn't live in any of those places if you paid my rent.

Smoking? Forget about it.

Dinner after 9pm? Lotsa luck.

Served a drink past 1:30 am sharp? Not on your life.

An illegal after hours club? Not in anyones wildest dreams.

DUI's? Yes you will get them.

Bars where you it is illegal to dance? Yep. If you can believe it.

Jay walking tickets? By the truckload.

Allowed to go outside with a drink? Hell no. You will get attacked by overzealous bouncers.

Busted for Drugs? Guaranteed Holmes, unless you abstain.

Zero Culture? Absolutely.

Chain restaurants? Till your heart's desire.

Diverse thinking population? Not unless you leave.

Uptight as hell? Yes.

"Insecurity" the most common emotion? Bet your life.

Cookie Cutter Consumer Slaves? There is nothing else.

F*ck Orange County.

And F*ck Calabasas. It is illegal to smoke on the street there.

Any questions?

Calabassas and Orange County just got handled. At least the Valley makes good porn.

Post: #52

(01-28-2012 02:55 AM)poutsara Wrote:  Calabassas and Orange County just got handled. At least the Valley makes good porn.

Not for much longer http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ywood.html

Post: #53

(01-28-2012 02:12 AM)nomadicdude Wrote:  

(01-25-2012 05:02 PM)sylo Wrote:  I am so sick of us having our own problems to deal with, AND being blamed for the rest of the worlds problems. It also bugs me when non Americans tell me the entire continent is America so we cant call ourseves Americans. Screw that, if your from Mexico, your Mexican. If your from Italy, your Italian. WTF do you want us to call ourseves? And seriously, that is one of the reasons you dont like America, because what we call ourselves?

Im not saying we have a perfect record, but really, the US isnt responsible for everything wrong around the galaxy.

Which country DOESNT look out for it's best interest?

America looks out for its own best interests? I'm American, with a crapload of student loans, like millions of other Americans and the U.S. gov doesn't give a rats ass about that. It spends more on Israelis, Afghanis, and Iraqis then its own people. This has been going on for at least the last 30-40 years.

The entire political and economic system in the US has been rigged so that it's completely dominated by the corporate elites and right wing conservatives. The US does what's in the interest of these two groups. Everyone else in America is shit out of luck. You have no say in anything and are continually ass raped by credit card companies, banks, mortgage companies, private universities, etc.

And re: people in Latin America getting pissed about us calling ourselves American, it's because they say the whole western hemisphere is American. It's like if a European country like Sweden said it is now also going to be called "Europe", wouldn't the other European countries just think that is stupid and arrogant?

And they also get pissed at stuff like calling the baseball championship the "World" Series. These are all valid points. Americans are overly nationalistic, which is sad because IMO a majority of Americans know very little about America other than "America, fuck yeah, we're number one!"

If you asked the average American what century the US was founded, what country the US gained independence from, approximately how many US troops died in Iraq, who the current Vice President is, how many people live in America, what the national capital is, or what the national anthem is I seriously doubt more than 25% could get even two of those questions right.

I am not trying to be a hater... just being honest.

About your last point, you're not being honest, you're being intellectually dishonest. You are implying that Americans are ignorant because in an imaginary survey an "average American" couldn't state 2 out of 6 basic facts about our country and 1 fact that is not very widely known. Dude get real, unless you are extremely biased in selecting survey participants 25% is way off. Maybe 5% of Americans knows how many people died exactly in Iraq. I'm talking without Google.

Your name is nomadic something so I'm going to assume that you've left the country at least once. Are you really going to tell me that the uneducated in other countries are more sophisticated or knowledgeable than the uneducated in America? You obviously aren't coming into contact with the whole spectrum of citizens then, but you feel comfortable lumping in the whole of American citizens with their worst representatives. Every country has proles. Their proles are no better than our proles.

Many Americans do think this country is the best in the world, but that in of itself doesn't make them ignorant. People abroad can be just as ignorant as Americans. A lot of things about our country are fucked up but the people in our country are not inherently ignorant.

Post: #54

I really like the good ol' USA and look forward to spending more time there, especially in cities like NYC, Chicago, Boston, San Fran, Seattle, etc.

I also agree 100% with what G is saying about come cities and countries (ex: Canada) being police states where the general population just accepts all these new rules and regulations as a fact of life. I swear, if the politicians told Canadians we'd all need to buy a license to walk, they would!

Also, living in a city where you DON"T need a car is awesome!

Post: #55

Personally, I don't care what people in other countries think of the United States. As critical as I am about my country while I'm here, I am very happy and defensive of the US when traveling overseas. I like visiting other countries, and I appreciate and respect their cultures and traditions, but I would not want to be from any place other than the USA. For a country that's not even 300 years old, its epic record of accomplishments and greatness vastly exceeds that of any country in the history of the world. I would even venture to say its record surpasses that of all the countries in the world combined. Its principles, values, and commitment to freedom and meritocracy manifests in ways that other countries can only dream about. American leaders and luminaries are world figures. This is the best country in the history of the world. No country comes close.

Post: #56

(01-28-2012 10:40 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  For a country that's not even 300 years old, its epic record of accomplishments and greatness vastly exceeds that of any country in the history of the world. I would even venture to say its record surpasses that of all the countries in the world combined.

Hencredible -

I know where your head is at.

And I am with you, kind of, in "spirit"

But I think you are completely out of your mind on this call.

Our 300 year run, is a blip on the historical radar screen.

I am sure the Romans, Chinese, Spanish, Holy Roman Empire, British Empire, Mongol Empire and Han Dynasty would want to have a word with you for starters.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt though, and assume you posted the above after drinking a bunch of Budweisers and watching a Will Smith movie where he and America saved the world.

Or you just watched Rocky IV.

Post: #57

(01-28-2012 11:13 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  I am sure the Romans, Chinese, Spanish, Holy Roman Empire, British Empire, Mongol Empire and Han Dynasty would want to have a word with you for starters.

In terms of longevity, sure, you're right, but all of those empires combined do not even remotely challenge what the US has been able to accomplish in less than 300 years. There's so much happening and changing in the US that it's too easy to overlook the many accomplishments and ideas that are generating daily. The illest inventions in modern history came from the US. Facebook and Twitter have helped precipitate revolutions and bring down entire governments.

Also, every generation of Americans has an experience VASTLY different from that of the previous one(s). Just think about the current generation of Americans growing up today, and compare that with yours, and then compare that with that of your parents. WORLDS apart.

The breadth, scope, and reach of American influence has no equal in history. We don't usually disagree, and I don't know exactly where you stand on the matter, but I would have to respectfully disagree if you don't think the United States is the greatest country to ever exist.

Post: #58

(01-28-2012 11:26 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(01-28-2012 11:13 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  I am sure the Romans, Chinese, Spanish, Holy Roman Empire, British Empire, Mongol Empire and Han Dynasty would want to have a word with you for starters.

In terms of longevity, sure, you're right, but all of those empires combined do not even remotely challenge what the US has been able to accomplish in less than 300 years. There's so much happening and changing in the US that it's too easy to overlook the many accomplishments and ideas that are generating daily. The illest inventions in modern history came from the US. Facebook and Twitter have helped precipitate revolutions and bring down entire governments.

Hencredible -

You are out of your dome homie.

You are comparing Facebook and Twitter to the invention of the steam engine?

Invention of plumbing?

The gun? Talk about "have helped precipitate revolutions and bring down entire governments"!

The cannon?

Gunpowder?

The toilet?

The telescope?

The printing press? (twitter and facebook are just modern versions)

The automobile?

The ship?

Flight?

Seriously? You are going to play the "twitter and facebook" card as your evidence that America is greater than every country in the history of the world put together?

What about Myspace?

How about using that empty condo building down the street as evidence that America builds greater buildings that Egypt?

Post: #59

Even though those examples were mentioned right after I said the illest modern inventions come from the US, by no means am I saying they are the best inventions to come out of the US. I had an incredible experience traveling around Arab countries last year and vividly recall banners saying "Thank You Facebook, Thank You America" which is why those examples came up in my mind. The Arab Spring is the most recent historical application of American inventions as a tool for root and branch governmental change. Of course, going down the list of everything that was invented in the US would take an inordinate amount of time.

That said,

the US provides an amazingly good life for the ordinary guy. Rich people live well everywhere, but what distinguishes America is that it provides a remarkably high standard of living for the "common man." A country is not judged by how it treats its most affluent citizens but by how it treats the average citizen. The US legacy is astoundingly remarkable for a heterogeneous diverse country of over 300 million people and that is less than 300 years old. Again, no equal in history.

Even the high standard of living enjoyed by Western European countries is a direct result of the Marshall Plan created after WWII (bankrolled by the US) and the establishment of NATO, which afforded countries throughout Europe to spend very little towards military expenditures and on services for their own citizens instead.

In much of the world today, even in China, the average citizen has a very hard life. In the Third World, people are struggling for their basic existence. It is not that they don't work hard. On the contrary, they labor incessantly and endure hardships that are almost unimaginable to people in America. In the villages of Asia and Africa, for example, a common sight is a farmer beating a pickaxe into the ground, women wobbling under heavy loads, children carrying stones. These people are performing arduous labor, but they are getting nowhere. The best they can hope for is to survive for another day. Their clothes are tattered, their teeth are rotten, and disease and death constantly loom over the horizon. For most poor people on the planet, life is characterized by squalor, indignity, and brevity.

Even middle-class people in the underdeveloped world endure hardships that make everyday life a strain. One problem is that the basic infrastructure of the Third World is abysmal: The roads are not properly paved, the water is not safe to drink, pollution in the cities has reached hazardous levels, public transportation is overcrowded and unreliable, and there is a two-year waiting period to get a telephone. The poorly paid government officials are inevitably corrupt, which means that you must pay bribes to get things done. Most important, prospects for the children's future are dim.


In America, the immigrant immediately recognizes that things are different. The newcomer who sees America for the first time typically experiences emotions that alternate between wonder and delight. Here is a country where everything works: The roads are clean and paper-smooth; the highway signs are clear and accurate; the public toilets function properly; when you pick up the telephone, you get a dial tone; you can even buy things from the store and then take them back. For the Third World visitor, the American supermarket is a thing to behold: endless aisles of every imaginable product, 50 different types of cereal, and multiple flavors of ice cream. The place is full of countless unappreciated inventions: quilted toilet paper, fabric softener, cordless telephones, disposable diapers, roll-on luggage, deodorant. Some countries, even today, lack these conveniences.

Critics of America complain about the scandal of persistent poverty in a nation of plenty, but the immigrant cannot help noticing that the United States is a country where the poor live comparatively well. This fact was dramatized in the 1980s when CBS television broadcast "People Like Us," which was intended to show the miseries of the poor during an American recession. The Soviet Union also broadcast the documentary, probably with a view to embarrassing the Reagan Administration. But by the testimony of former Soviet leaders, it had the opposite effect. Ordinary people across the Soviet Union saw that the poorest Americans have television sets and microwave ovens and cars.

The moral triumph of America is that it has extended the benefits of comfort and affluence, traditionally enjoyed by a very few, to a large segment of society. Few people in America have to wonder where their next meal is coming from. Emergency medical care is available to everyone, even those without proper insurance. Every child has access to an education, and many have the chance to go to college.

The US is simply the greatest country on earth, whether you love it or not. No country comes close. Can you even make a case to the contrary? The vast majority of people who live here stay here. I have never heard of an exodus of Americans emigrating out. Those that leave often return after some period of time, usually a few years or less.

Post: #60

Here are ten good reasons why thinking Americans should love their country:

10. Entertainment
The movies the world watches, the television shows they tune into, and the music they listen to are, for the most part, produced in the United States. For instance, the U.S. exports more than 25 times the number of movies and television shows than it consumes from abroad, a fact that causes Ben Wattenberg to observe quite correctly that America is "the most culturally potent nation in the world." Even the virulent America-hater Saddam Hussein reportedly spent a good portion of his time watching American-made movies such as The Godfather and Enemy of the State.

9. Immigration
During the hundred years ending in the 1920s, a majority of the world's immigrants came to one lone country: the United States. Today, the U.S. takes in more immigrants than at any point in its history. Yet, the haters portray America as a bastion of xenophobia and bigotry. Alexander Hamilton (the first Secretary of the Treasury), John Jacob Astor (America's first multimillionaire), Alexander Graham Bell (invented the telephone), Louis B. Mayer (Hollywood pioneer), Selman Waksman (cured tuberculosis), and Ralph Baer (invented the video game) are among the immigrants to America whose lives belie this premise. Just as those who complain about "oppression" in the U.S. would never entertain the idea of living anywhere else, the people around the world we allegedly oppress flock to come here. This contradiction between leftist theory and real-world practice illustrates just how delusional the central tenets of America haters really are.

8. Technology
Nothing disproves the mantra that "all cultures are equal" more than technology does. Americans have given the world motion pictures, the telephone, the television, the computer, the Internet, the airplane, the VCR, and a host of other machines and devices that have vastly improved the quality of life on the planet. Ironically, the terrorists who hate the U.S. give America a tacit endorsement every time they turn on a light, escape the heat through air conditioning, monitor their exploits on television or the internet, or communicate via telephone.

7. Creating Wealth
America is the sun around which the world economy revolves. The typical creator of wealth in the world is an American. Foreigners benefit from buying better products from American companies and working better jobs manufacturing such products. Take America's $9 trillion dollar economy out of the picture, and the economic well being of the rest of the world nose-dives.

6. Generosity
With great wealth comes great generosity. In 2000, Americans gave more than $200 billion in charity, dwarfing the amount donated elsewhere. Since World War II, the U.S. government has given well in excess of $500 billion (not adjusted for inflation) in foreign aid. Last year, our government distributed more than $20 billion to 130 countries. While American taxpayers have a right to gripe, what are we to make of foreign beneficiaries who return our favor by burning U.S. flags and chanting "death to America"?

*This is one reason why I don't care what people in other countries think about the US.

5. Human Achievement
Americans have stretched the bounds of the possible. The first transatlantic flight, putting a man on the moon, breaking the speed of sound, constructing the Hoover Dam, and building the Panama Canal serve as testimony to American courage and ingenuity. It wasn't Danes or Bolivians or Iranians or Koreans who achieved these feats. It was Americans. This is significant.

4. Enlightened Power
The Soviet Empire ruled over Eastern Europe. The Ottoman Empire claimed dominion over vast stretches of the Islamic world. The Empire of the Sun sought dominion over the Orient. The American Empire rules...only Americans. America is an historical curiosity. It is the most powerful country in the world, yet it eschews imperialism. Instead, it has used its military might to liberate. Nazi Germany, the Korean peninsula, Soviet Russia, Hussein's Iraq, and Communist Vietnam are among the nefarious states we sought to prevent from increasing their totalitarian control over others. The world is a better place because America, and not some other country, is the sole superpower.

Go visit Russia or China and tell me you want that model to reign over the rest of the world.

3. Medicine
Will Nigerian doctors make the blind see? Will Cambodians cure AIDS? Will Pakistanis eradicate cancer? The answer is probably not. This year, like 45 of the last 60, an American won the share of the Nobel Prize in the field of medicine. Americans cured polio and tuberculosis, developed vaccines for hepatitis B and yellow fever, pioneered modern chemotherapy, and produced the CAT scan and MRI. What's there to hate about that?

2. Democracy
Critics harp that American democracy is tainted because not everyone possessed the right to vote at the founding of the country. Denial of the vote in the 18th century, however, was universal. What made America unique was not that some people could not vote, but that anybody could. More than 215 years after the Constitutional Convention, most people on the planet still do not have a right to vote. Every Arab country, more than three-fourths of African nations, and many of the most populous nations in Asia still deny their citizens the right to choose their own leaders. Despite the continued rejection by many foreign leaders, the ideals of the American Founding became contagious. Our example served to topple regimes far from our shores. Pro-democracy activists don't quote the founding documents of Saudi Arabia or appropriate the cultural symbols of China. They cite passages from the Declaration of Independence and hoist replicas of the Statue of Liberty.

1. Freedom
America has shined as a beacon of freedom in an unfree world for more than two centuries. To this day, for instance, most people living outside our borders reside in countries where the private practice of broadcast journalism is illegal and where the state is the dominant banker. Americans can say anything they want, worship any god they choose, and associate with any motley crew around. If nothing else, America means freedom.

What country in the history of the world boasts such an impressive record of bettering the lot of all of humanity? The answer is no country.

"Americans need to face the truth about themselves," Jeane Kirkpatrick once remarked, "no matter how pleasant it is."

Post: #61

(01-28-2012 01:26 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  1. Freedom
America has shined as a beacon of freedom in an unfree world for more than two centuries. To this day, for instance, most people living outside our borders reside in countries where the private practice of broadcast journalism is illegal and where the state is the dominant banker. Americans can say anything they want, worship any god they choose, and associate with any motley crew around. If nothing else, America means freedom.

What country in the history of the world boasts such an impressive record of bettering the lot of all of humanity? The answer is no country.

Are you quoting this from someone or are these your words?

50 years ago, you couldn't have used the same bathroom as the poster you're responding to.

Post: #62

Hencredible Casanova -

You very craftily switched your position from:

Quote:For a country that's not even 300 years old, its epic record of accomplishments and greatness vastly exceeds that of any country in the history of the world. I would even venture to say its record surpasses that of all the countries in the world combined.

To:

Modern Day America VS The Modern Day Third World.

Post: #63

(01-28-2012 01:50 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(01-28-2012 01:26 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  1. Freedom
America has shined as a beacon of freedom in an unfree world for more than two centuries. To this day, for instance, most people living outside our borders reside in countries where the private practice of broadcast journalism is illegal and where the state is the dominant banker. Americans can say anything they want, worship any god they choose, and associate with any motley crew around. If nothing else, America means freedom.

What country in the history of the world boasts such an impressive record of bettering the lot of all of humanity? The answer is no country.

Are you quoting this from someone or are these your words?

50 years ago, you couldn't have used the same bathroom as the poster you're responding to.

The top-ten list was obviously not me. Dan Flynn, the author of the best-selling book about American greatness.

As to your comment: and today we have a black president. Amazing. No other country in the world has the ability to change and redefine itself as rapidly as the US. It's a testament to the greatness of the American people

That list doesn't even come close to capturing everything. In every field of human endeavor, America has produced exceptional outliers: musicians, singers, athletes, politicians, public figures; does any country even come close to oozing the kind of talent that America has produced throughout its short history? Not by a longshot.

Even this forum was created by an American!

Post: #64

Great fucking post HC!

I thought I was the only one who was happy to be living in The United States. I feel very lucky to be here.

I know we have out faults but so does every country. People say our economy is fucked and we are a sinking ship? Isn't Europe having the exact same problems with debt, credit, corruption, etc.

Some say China will take us over?

I never got that one.

I just read that Apple Computers is the number one brand on the planet and they use sweatshops in China to make their products.

When a Chinese company is the biggest brand on the planet and they are setting up child-labor sweatshops in America, I will be worried.

A also read that Nike made more money in China then they did in the US. And the NBA is making more money from Chinese costumers.

When a Chinese shoe company is selling more shoes then Nike, I will be worried.

When little black kids and little white kids are cheering for Chinese athletes and putting posters of Chinese ball players on their bedroom walls, I will be worried.

Actually, that stuff wouldn't worry me at all, its just business. And I like Chinese people and culture.

We always talk about "alpha" on this Forum. Alpha is the one who controls the resources, and will fight you to the death for that control. Well, isn't that what America has done? We have fought and killed anyone who gets in the way of our resources.

That is the exact definition of "Alpha".

We respect alpha men, why not respect an alpha nation?

P.S. - No disrespect to my Chinese brothers. I'm only making a point about world economics, using Chinese consumers as examples. I actually have never had a Chinese guy tell me that China was taking over the US. It has always been some other race saying that. I might not even care if China did take over the US. We might be better off and the food would probably be better. Zunzhong. Gung hay fat choy. The year of the Dragon!

Post: #65

(01-24-2012 02:17 AM)P Dog Wrote:  Really curious to see how Americans would react to this. Thoughts?

Indifferent to all of this

Post: #66

(01-28-2012 01:55 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Hencredible Casanova -

You very craftily switched your position from:

Quote:For a country that's not even 300 years old, its epic record of accomplishments and greatness vastly exceeds that of any country in the history of the world. I would even venture to say its record surpasses that of all the countries in the world combined.

To:

Modern Day America VS The Modern Day Third World.

No, I did not. You think any of those empires you alluded to had higher standards of living than the residual countries that formed them? China is infinitely better today than it was at any time in its history, by any objective measure, and it doesn't come close to matching America's record. The empires of the past were great in their time, compared to everyone else (which isn't saying much to begin with), but they don't touch America's ascension. America is a modern country by default, and in less than 300 years it emerged from austere colonial settlements to the most modern, advanced, and largest economy the world has ever seen.

Post: #67

(01-28-2012 11:26 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(01-28-2012 11:13 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  I am sure the Romans, Chinese, Spanish, Holy Roman Empire, British Empire, Mongol Empire and Han Dynasty would want to have a word with you for starters.

In terms of longevity, sure, you're right, but all of those empires combined do not even remotely challenge what the US has been able to accomplish in less than 300 years. There's so much happening and changing in the US that it's too easy to overlook the many accomplishments and ideas that are generating daily. The illest inventions in modern history came from the US. Facebook and Twitter have helped precipitate revolutions and bring down entire governments.

Also, every generation of Americans has an experience VASTLY different from that of the previous one(s). Just think about the current generation of Americans growing up today, and compare that with yours, and then compare that with that of your parents. WORLDS apart.

The breadth, scope, and reach of American influence has no equal in history. We don't usually disagree, and I don't know exactly where you stand on the matter, but I would have to respectfully disagree if you don't think the United States is the greatest country to ever exist.

While we have done great things in a relatively short period of time, we will also fall sooner than the other great dynasties/civilizations due to our rapid adoption of feminism.

Post: #68

(01-28-2012 02:00 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Great fucking post HC!

I thought I was the only one who was happy to be living in The United States. I feel very lucky to be here.

I know we have out faults but so does every country. People say our economy is fucked and we are a sinking ship? Isn't Europe having the exact same problems with debt, credit, corruption, etc.

Some say China will take us over?

I never got that one.

I just read that Apple Computers is the number one brand on the planet and they use sweatshops in China to make their products.

When a Chinese company is the biggest brand on the planet and they are setting up child-labor sweatshops in America, I will be worried.

A also read that Nike made more money in China then they did in the US. And the NBA is making more money from Chinese costumers.

When a Chinese shoe company is selling more shoes then Nike, I will be worried.

When little black kids and little white kids are cheering for Chinese athletes and putting posters of Chinese ball players on their bedroom walls, I will be worried.

We always talk about "alpha" on this Forum. Alpha is the one who controls the resources, and will fight you to the death for that control. Well, isn't what America has done? We have fought and killed anyone who gets in the way of our resources.

That is the exact definition of "Alpha".

We respect alpha men, why not respect an alpha nation?

P.S. - No disrespect to my Chinese brothers. I'm only making a point about world economics, using Chinese consumers as examples. I actually have never had a Chinese guy tell me that China was taking over the US. It has always been some other race saying that. I might not even care if China did take over the US. We might be better off and the food would probably be better. Zunzhong. Gung hay fat choy. The year of the Dragon

Exactly. Also, in case it's worth reminding, I am very critical about this country's problems. We are FAR from perfect, and I even agree with G in many of his gripes about the state of the country. However, compared to every other country out there, we truly are blessed and fortunate to be here. We really don't give ourselves enough credit. America bashing seems to be in vogue around here and in many other circles, but it's still the greatest country in the world. No country comes close.

Post: #69

(01-28-2012 02:02 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(01-28-2012 11:26 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(01-28-2012 11:13 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  I am sure the Romans, Chinese, Spanish, Holy Roman Empire, British Empire, Mongol Empire and Han Dynasty would want to have a word with you for starters.

In terms of longevity, sure, you're right, but all of those empires combined do not even remotely challenge what the US has been able to accomplish in less than 300 years. There's so much happening and changing in the US that it's too easy to overlook the many accomplishments and ideas that are generating daily. The illest inventions in modern history came from the US. Facebook and Twitter have helped precipitate revolutions and bring down entire governments.

Also, every generation of Americans has an experience VASTLY different from that of the previous one(s). Just think about the current generation of Americans growing up today, and compare that with yours, and then compare that with that of your parents. WORLDS apart.

The breadth, scope, and reach of American influence has no equal in history. We don't usually disagree, and I don't know exactly where you stand on the matter, but I would have to respectfully disagree if you don't think the United States is the greatest country to ever exist.

While we have done great things in a relatively short period of time, we will also fall sooner than the other great dynasties/civilizations due to our rapid adoption of feminism.

LOL. The rise of feminism in America is def cause for concern, but even then, I think American men are clever enough to find a way to succeed. We have some of the best players and the most innovative thinkers. Hell, all you guys in the States who found this forum are already protecting yourselves from the feminazis. That's a start!

Post: #70

(01-28-2012 01:56 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  The top-ten list was obviously not me. Dan Flynn, the author of the best-selling book about American greatness.

As to your comment: and today we have a black president.

One look at Dan Flynn's picture tells that story.

Today we have a black president who's done next to nothing for the betterment of black people in this country.

On his watch, he's had the highest unemployment rate for Blacks in nearly half a century. Additionally, Blacks are still the victims in 70% of hate crimes.

He's doing his job, which has nothing to do with the betterment of Black people.

Stop holding up Obama as some sort of acheivement; his election epitomizes the illusion of success. They CHOSE him to be president before you even knew who he was.

His mentor, Zbigniew Brezinski, authored the National Security Council Memorandum 46 back in the late 70s. Google that, read it.

This man is Obama's friend.

How can Obama be his friend and your friend as well?

Post: #71

(01-28-2012 02:08 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(01-28-2012 01:56 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  The top-ten list was obviously not me. Dan Flynn, the author of the best-selling book about American greatness.

As to your comment: and today we have a black president.

One look at Dan Flynn's picture tells that story.

Today we have a black president who's done next to nothing for the betterment of black people in this country.

On his watch, he's had the highest unemployment rate for Blacks in nearly half a century. Additionally, Blacks are still the victims in 70% of hate crimes.

He's doing his job, which has nothing to do with the betterment of Black people.

Stop holding up Obama as some sort of acheivement; his election epitomizes the illusion of success. They CHOSE him to be president before you even knew who he was.

His mentor, Zbigniew Brezinski, authored the National Security Council Memorandum 46 back in the late 70s. Google that, read it.

This man is Obama's friend.

How can Obama be his friend and your friend as well?

Slow down. I never said Obama was "my friend." I didn't even vote for the guy. I'm just saying his election is definitely a symbolic testament to the advancement of race relations in this country, especially at the mainstream level.

I've noticed your postings are often very cynical and obsessively focus on race. What's up with that?

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For those who disagree, that's fine. It's like when G says he believes America is the easiest place to swoop girls, which I agree with, a lot of guys on the forum strongly disagreed with him. I can't speak on everyone's experience. Some of you might have good reasons to think America is NOT the greatest country, but I think it is, and I've laid out my reasons pretty clearly. It's all good.

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Rise of feminism is quite a big issue! Hopefully I don't see USA becoming like Sweden in say the next 20 years. In order for USA to be a full-fledged feminist a country, a woman would have to be the president, and I don't see that happening!

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(01-28-2012 02:14 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  I've noticed your postings are often very cynical and obsessively focus on race. What's up with that?

I mostly respond to comments.

I don't bring up these issues.

It's obvious that race is not something that you are comfortable discussing.

That is your choice.

Post: #75

(01-28-2012 02:16 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  For those who disagree, that's fine. It's like when G says he believes America is the easiest place to swoop girls, which I agree with, a lot of guys on the forum strongly disagreed with him. I can't speak on everyone's experience. Some of you might have good reasons to think America is NOT the greatest country, but I think it is, and I've laid out my reasons pretty clearly. It's all good.

Yeah, it's all good.

I like America, for all it's faults (like injecting STD's into Ecuadorians and admitting it).

I think we are comparing Mangoes and Papayas. America has the advantage of "standing on the shoulders" of other Empires before it. It is the newest one, so it should have made progress.

I would also argue that America is the biggest waste of potential in the history of the world, but that is another story for another day.

Still, I like the place. And I will most likely spend at least part of the year in America (unless I can find better places all year round) for my life.

So that says something in and of itself.

After all, we do have the easiest girls.