Post: #76

(01-30-2017 02:16 PM)Curunír Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 02:05 PM)armenia4ever Wrote:  So Alex was shouting Alluh Akbar? Something is funny here. I highly suspect he's a convert to Islam.

Local facts not reported here show someone frequently praising Trump, bashing feminists, speaking of Le Pen, being active online talking about politics, taking on leftists, all while studying political science at Laval university in QC city.

Highly doubt false flag.

Came from a very nice suburban family, showed no sign of "radicalism", posted pictures of joyful events last December (his Facebook was still online until a couple hours ago).

Look at the pictures.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/01/30/le...med-khadir

Just a "normal" guy who went on quite a carnage in a mosquée.

He makes a lot of people look bad now, what a mess.

At least that's what I think.

Time for a joint US, Russia Invasion of Canada I guess, split it down the middle like germany after WWII.

Post: #77

Something is fishy about the entire attack.

Either way - even if it was a White guy for a change committing violence against the Religion of Peace. It will remain 1% of what the Islamic Jihadis will continue to do.

The Western powers only act in unison, they lack a desire to violently subjugate the unbelievers and don't have a command to wage war on everyone else.

Even if it is not a false flag, then such reprisals will happen from time to time as the other side won't stop killing.

And of course I am not condoning this as no one should - and make no mistake - I would even shoot down the guy myself. I am no fan of Islam, but this is not how you oppose the religion.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/01/quebe...-at-mosque


Meanwhile, the “Allahu akbar” remains mysterious. If Bissonnette shouted it, was he an “Islamophobe” mocking his Muslim victims? Or is he a convert to Islam, killing those whom he believed to be members of some deviant or heretical sect, in accord with Islam’s death penalty for heretics and apostates? Or did someone else scream this out, or no one at all? News reports thus far have not been helpful in making much sense of what happened here.

Frankly - no idea what has happened there. The details of the second shooter were quite specific that they found weapons and he confessed. Also the Allahu Akbar is strange.

Either way - Muslims so far will only have to fear occasional lone crazies from Westerners. They will only will have to start being afraid when an organized backlash in tandem with the Western governments comes.

The entire incident sounds suspicious, but hey - we can never rule out someone who has watched enough Islamic atrocities on Youtube and then suddenly snaps. But it makes frankly little sense with a law student from a middle class family without any ideological bent. Not impossible, but not very likely it is.

Post: #78

How did it go from two suspects down to one? After he turned himself in?

Smells like state sponsored censorship and cover up.

White shooter: Fits narrative. Muslim shooter: No good.

Post: #79

It smells like the perfect narrative to attack Trump, his supporters and continue the false outrage being stirred up around the Western world.

You can see this by the way the media is reporting things. They're putting Trump in the story in order to link Trumps words and actions to violence.

Post: #80

There was something like 50-60 men praying there, Bissonnette managed to kill 6 of them, wounded another half dozen. If there was some kind of coverup, those witnesses would have stepped up.

Occam's razor.

Post: #81

(01-30-2017 04:05 PM)911 Wrote:  There was something like 50-60 men praying there, Bissonnette managed to kill 6 of them, wounded another half dozen. If there was some kind of coverup, those witnesses would have stepped up.

Those witnesses maybe have indeed "stepped up", and been told by the authorities to shut up.

Also, those witnesses (surviving Mosque-goers) maybe are clever enough to understand they better remember the White shooter, but forget about his Moroccan accomplice...

I think that fanatically-SJW governments are totally capable of silencing witnesses and media, easily and quickly. On top of that, when the witnesses and media are natural accomplices, sharing the same (anti-native) interests...

Post: #82

OK, a witness interviewed on the air on CBC, "Abdi", claimed that he was there inside the mosque and saw two masked gunmen.

Post: #83

"Allahu Akbar" is the most common thing you will hear in a mosque.It's a bit funny actually because Islamic prayer is literally

"Allahu Akbar" Start
"Allahu Akbar" semi-prostate
"Allahu Akbar" sit down
"Allahu Akbar" prostate
and so on...

It's possible it was just the preachers Allahu Akbar they heard

Post: #84

(01-30-2017 04:38 PM)kavi Wrote:  "Allahu Akbar" is the most common thing you will hear in a mosque.It's a bit funny actually because Islamic prayer is literally

"Allahu Akbar" Start
"Allahu Akbar" semi-prostate
"Allahu Akbar" sit down
"Allahu Akbar" prostate
and so on...

It's possible it was just the preachers Allahu Akbar they heard

It was recorded the mosquee had many cameras, no false flag the suspect surrendered, being suspicious is one thing, being willfully blind is another.

This will hurt our narrative, very bad.

Post: #85

Another article from TVA Nouvelles has the shooter yelling "Fuck you!!" (according to another witness who was outside)

Post: #86

Quote:And Bisonnette’s Facebook page – now taken down but still archived – lists among its “likes” the far right French nationalist Marine Le Pen, Islam critics Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, the Israeli Defense Forces, and Donald J. Trump (he also “likes” the liberal Canadian Party NDP along with more neutral “likes” such as Tom Hanks, the Sopranos and Katy Perry).

Katy Perry? I think we can safely distance ourselves from this guy...

Post: #87

(01-30-2017 06:43 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Isn't 6 a low figure for a place that should be very "target rich"?Suspicious.

This is a really good question.

The facts of the story make no sense right now.

Post: #88

(01-30-2017 04:59 PM)kavi Wrote:  the Israeli Defense Forces.

Likes the IDF.

This clue says a lot. It doesn't mean any conspiracy, but what it means at least is that this guy was getting his info in the wrong places. Soft-right, fascination with Le Pen, Trump, this guy is Alt-Light. Breitbart reader, hates muslims, loves our greatest ally.

Not that it matters much. This will happen more. A lot more. The floods are opened. Western society has fractured at the seams. It will continue to be solitary white male with a history of bullying and/or mental problems. This is a difference, because the muslim shooters are usually not much different than the average muslims, have families etc.

If this guy turns out to be a well adjusted citizen with a girlfriend, job and friends, then it will mean something fundamentally new. Otherwise, it is a school shooter who found a narcissistic ending against muslims.

Post: #89

(01-30-2017 05:34 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 05:06 AM)Speculation Wrote:  If it is non-whites/muslims I bet they'll try to keep the names surpressed until Trudeau's 'Refugees are Welcome' news cycle blows over so he doesn't get egg on his face.

Cuckdeau always has something else splattered on his face...

Egg fertilizer?

There is a lot of speculation so far. Hopefully some facts come out soon. But the media is really going to try to pin this on Trump, especially since it sounds like the shooter liked Trump on FB.

Post: #90

People of Roosh V Land.

Only one shooter, multiple witnesses, confession of shooter, video cams.

Admission of friends of shooters he talked about muslims and was active online against feminists and muslims.

Multiples screenshots of him online activity.

This is basically someone who had our narrative who blew up.

Very bad and if the media blames Trump well we need to blame the shooter.

Samseau you are a highly respected member here I admired your work for D. Trump in NH, I personally am the biggest D. Trump fan around, but here are the facts;

First time a white man initiates a major killing spree in a mosquee in the West.

People I know went to school with the killer.

Quebec is not a banana republic, birthplace of North America.

No false flag Jon Le Carré BS happens here.

So treat the facts as they are not by saying this was anything else than a setback for everyone who want to speak publicly against muslim immigration and common sense.

This shooter took us way back.

At least for those who live here.

Post: #91

Why do you say it's a setback?

#notallmuslims

No one has to do anything to show their sympathy or rejection, the muslims don't, why should we?

Post: #92

(01-30-2017 04:47 PM)Curunír Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 04:38 PM)kavi Wrote:  "Allahu Akbar" is the most common thing you will hear in a mosque.It's a bit funny actually because Islamic prayer is literally

"Allahu Akbar" Start
"Allahu Akbar" semi-prostate
"Allahu Akbar" sit down
"Allahu Akbar" prostate
and so on...

It's possible it was just the preachers Allahu Akbar they heard

It was recorded the mosquee had many cameras, no false flag the suspect surrendered, being suspicious is one thing, being willfully blind is another.

This will hurt our narrative, very bad.

New guys with zero rep would be wise to accompany any and all claims with links to their sources.

Turning up here fresh and posting demoralising content without sources marks you as a troll.

I'm not saying you're a troll, but guys coming in here with double digit posts telling us the sky is falling don't tend to last long before the banhammer comes down.

Post: #93

(01-30-2017 08:20 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Why do you say it's a setback?

#notallmuslims

No one has to do anything to show their sympathy or rejection, the muslims don't, why should we?

It's a setback. I won't be attending any weepy vigils for the shooting victims, just like I didn't see any mosques organizing vigils for victims of Orlando or Berlin. However our Soros-loving cuck PM's gov't is on the verge of introducing anti-"Islamophobic" hate-speech laws and was already in the process of preparing to review (i.e. greatly increase) our gun control laws. The timing could not be better to push those two agendas.

Post: #94

(01-30-2017 08:20 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Why do you say it's a setback?

#notallmuslims

No one has to do anything to show their sympathy or rejection, the muslims don't, why should we?

In reponse to your question.

I could see online and in my entourage and work environnement, that more and more men and women were turning for us in the globalist vs nativist narrative.

As if like elections matters and people were speaking for Trump in the common area of discussion.

I could see the difference and the tide turning.

Now with this massacre (for Quebec standards) people leaning for the nationalistic narrative pulled suddenly away.

How can you paint us as victims of the globalist agenda which allows refugees and muslim ghettos to form when know Trudeau and Coderre are seen as the saviors doing a press conference today with 20 muslim imams.

How will I be able to support Trump for the next 2 years while everyone and their sister link this carnage to Trump.

At the end of the day, we need other people than RVF members and our satellites to win globan opinion.

That's how the US election was won, common sense people joined ship.

This guy killing 6 father of families, totalling 15+ children, 3 PHD graduates, 1 professor, 2 business owners, it was a BAD idea.

This is my last post in this thread because I would not want to discuss with emotions.

I hope I was able to put some local opinion into this.

After, all, we are talking about a city, a neighborhood, that I know very well.

Don't people here like first hand information?

As for people calling me a troll, I will be able to confirm my identity with Roosh himself if necessary.

I am from Quebec city, know what happened and can confirm what I have reported here as accurate.

Post: #95

(01-30-2017 08:29 PM)ed pluribus unum Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 08:20 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Why do you say it's a setback?

#notallmuslims

No one has to do anything to show their sympathy or rejection, the muslims don't, why should we?

It's a setback. I won't be attending any weepy vigils for the shooting victims, just like I didn't see any mosques organizing vigils for victims of Orlando or Berlin. However our Soros-loving cuck PM's gov't is on the verge of introducing anti-"Islamophobic" hate-speech laws and was already in the process of preparing to review (i.e. greatly increase) our gun control laws. The timing could not be better to push those two agendas.

It was obvious this would happen.

Going through the perps Facebook, which /pol/ did, this guy is a normie right wing Israel loving good boy who was a loner and bullied and instead of shooting up a school shot up a mosque.

I'm saying, this is going to happen, the war has begun. I am not condoning it, but it is obvious that you can't just go on Jihad all the time and not expect some kind of retribution.

Post: #96

(01-30-2017 08:18 PM)Curunír Wrote:  *desperate flailing*

CALM THE FUCK DOWN.

None of us have done anything illegal or even wrong.

Holding an opinion is not a criminal offence, even in Canada.

Quote:How will I be able to support Trump for the next 2 years while everyone and their sister link this carnage to Trump.

BECAUSE HE IS FUCKING CORRECT. The lunatic actions of a deranged, narcissistic loner do not change that even minimally.

We knew this was going to happen one day. It was inevitable, however regretfully I say that. We have established procedures ready to go in case he is tied back to us in any way.

The reason why we are being proven right as time goes on is not because we are popular - it is because we see the world for what it actually is as opposed to the fantastical utopia our enemies see it for.

Post: #97

I say double down on the trolling.

Post shit like: "Diversity is our strength! When you mix Muslims and non-Muslims, conflict never arises!"

Keep the arrow pointed right at the problem: Muslims.

There wouldn't be a shooting at a Mosque if there weren't a Mosque in a western nation.

Try this one on social media: How many church shootings are there in Saudi Arabia? Trick question folks. There are no church shootings because there are no churches in Saudi Arabia. Lets take the same brave stance that the Saudis have. No more mosques, no more mosque shootings!

Post: #98

(01-30-2017 06:56 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 06:43 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Isn't 6 a low figure for a place that should be very "target rich"?Suspicious.

This is a really good question.

The facts of the story make no sense right now.

Best dank meme I've seen on the subject: "How come Anders Brevik is the only mass shooter with decent aim?"

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #99

(01-30-2017 08:18 PM)Curunír Wrote:  People of Roosh V Land.

Only one shooter, multiple witnesses, confession of shooter, video cams.

Admission of friends of shooters he talked about muslims and was active online against feminists and muslims.

Multiples screenshots of him online activity.

This is basically someone who had our narrative who blew up.

Very bad and if the media blames Trump well we need to blame the shooter.

Samseau you are a highly respected member here I admired your work for D. Trump in NH, I personally am the biggest D. Trump fan around, but here are the facts;

First time a white man initiates a major killing spree in a mosquee in the West.

People I know went to school with the killer.

Quebec is not a banana republic, birthplace of North America.

...No false flag Jon Le Carré BS happens here.

So treat the facts as they are not by saying this was anything else than a setback for everyone who want to speak publicly against muslim immigration and common sense.

This shooter took us way back.

At least for those who live here.

Solid post Curunír, agree with everything you wrote, except for bold part. There was a lot of "Jon Le Carré BS" during the 1970s FLQ crisis, classic "strategy of tension" similar to what took place in Europe at the same time, like the well-documented Gladio deep state bombings in Italy (notably the Bologna train station bombing which killed 80+).

This being said, I think you're right in this case. The guy went into this building and shot up a crowd of 50-60 men, killing 6 and wounding 20. All these wounded people filled ER wards, dozens of people were witnesses to that. In Sandy Hook, you had an isolated community with a lot of shady people and literally millions of dollars in hush money.

6 dead and 20 wounded out of 60 might not be a good score for the studs out here with hundreds of hours on the shooting range or ex-military training, but this Bissonnette dude is a scrawny beta, not a hardened paramilitary cold killer like Breijvik. And in false flags (like in the Paris and San Bernardino shootings), all the perps end up dead, unless they're manchurian candidates like Hinckley or Chapman (Reagan, Lennon).

So unless there is some new evidence pouring in (conflicting witness reports, camera footage etc) or weird developments in the case (suicide, blatant coverups...), I'm going to go with your analysis.

Post: #100

Let's assume the media and politicians go nuts saying they need this and that draconian law.

How do you think that plays out with those who watched them do and say nothing in Germany and France?