Post: #1

While I'm not ready or in a position to get married for the next 3-7 years, at this point in my life, I can’t help but evaluate potential dates for potential wife and mother qualities. I also can’t help but imagine what kind of family life I’d have, and how I’d want to raise my kids. My own parents have been married for over 30 years now and I can only ask them about how they met, so many times.

Among the married men who are comfortable sharing, how did you meet your wife?

What was it about her, that made you decide she was wife and mother of your children?

Why did you choose that (or those) quality above others as the most important?

What did your parents/family say about her? Was she a good fit for you/your family? Were you a good fit for hers?

Did you guys discuss how you'd raise children, have them visit family once or twice a year?

Was there any long distance in the relationship at all?

How long did you date before you married her?

What kind of wedding ceremony did you have?

Did you test her at all?

G

Edited to add the last four questions.
Edited: added more questions

Post: #2

Quote:Among the married men who are comfortable sharing, how did you meet your wife?

Yahoo Messenger (don't think it exists today)

Quote:What was it about her, that made you decide she was wife and mother of your children?

Not fat
Not a bitch
Intelligent
Never flaked on me (reliable)
Mature and future time orientated
We were on the same wavelength when it came to money / accumulating wealth.

Quote:Why did you choose that (or those) quality above others as the most important?

Lacking in any of those areas I would have not married her.

Quote:What did your parents/family say about her? Was she a good fit for you

Parents were not sure about her until they met her. My parents adore her now.

Quote:Did you guys discuss how you'd raise children, have them visit family once or twice a year?

I have a son incoming (due this summer). We had many discussions in regards to this. A lot went around avoiding what made our childhoods unpleasant.

Quote:Was there any long distance in the relationship at all?

About 12k miles which means a 21+ hour plane trip.

Post: #3

(01-24-2017 03:48 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

Quote:Was there any long distance in the relationship at all?

About 12k miles which means a 21+ hour plane trip.

How long did you date her before you married?

Also, did you have a plan to move into together or at least close the distance?

G

Post: #4

(01-24-2017 03:56 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  How long did you date her before you married?

Also, did you have a plan to move into together or at least close the distance?

G

My original plan was to cash in my frequent flyer miles and visit a bunch of different countries. I was originally going to South America, but changed after the 1997 Asian financial meltdown made Southeast Asia incredibly cheap to visit.

This girl I met I liked so much that I just kept going back to visit her. Met her first in 2000, went back in 2002, 2003, married in 2004.

We talked online daily. I wasn't going to be dating anyone else because when I was back in the USA, I was dead flat broke. Every nickle I had was going into buying and renovating small apartment buildings. Real estate was dirt cheap around here until 2003. After that, the housing bubble kicked in and I stopped buying.

Post: #5

I will start my post by saying I got married many, many years before I found the Red Pill.
With that aside, I will answer your Q's

Among the married men who are comfortable sharing, how did you meet your wife?
Cold approached her at a famous breakfast restaurant chain.

What was it about her, that made you decide she was wife and mother of your children?
Knocked her up!
Also, she did a majority of the cooking and cleaning before we got married, which I really enjoyed.
Even better, now she does 100% of the cooking and cleaning, except for BBQ - only I BBQ.

Why did you choose that (or those) quality above others as the most important?
It is rare to find a women now a days that is a natural caretaker (cooking and cleaning) and is actually good at it!
Her food is amazing and my home is always tidy.

What did your parents/family say about her? Was she a good fit for you
They all love her and she is a great fit for me.
I'm an extremely busy person (always running a business/hustle, obsessed with fitness/martial arts and musical instruments)
It is a massive time saver having someone do all of my cooking and cleaning.
In return, I pay for everything and she can be a stay at home mom for our 2 kids.

Did you guys discuss how you'd raise children, have them visit family once or twice a year?
Before I found the red pill we discussed absolutely everything about how to raise the children.
Now I LEAD by example and vocally how I want them raised.
She happily follows suit and this has gotten rid of so much wasted time arguing.

We visit extended family almost every other week, I am a huge proponent of the family/tribal unit.

Was there any long distance in the relationship at all?
Nope.

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My best piece of advice if you are considering Marriage:
Think of this like a pet dog.

It is stressful as hell for a dog to be the Alpha, Leader or Decision Maker.
Don't for a second slip up, be absolutely relentless and persistent 24/7 in knowing exactly what you want/how you want it.

Do this and you will have the happiest, argument-free Marriage.

Be compromising, give her choices and/or ask for advice, you will end up MISERABLE!

Post: #6

(01-24-2017 04:10 PM)ScrapperTL Wrote:  ...snip...

Thanks for your input. How were you with her family?

Did it take a lot of time to win over her family?

(same questions directed at Hell_is_like_Newark)

G

Post: #7

(01-24-2017 04:19 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  

(01-24-2017 04:10 PM)ScrapperTL Wrote:  ...snip...

Thanks for your input. How were you with her family?

Did it take a lot of time to win over her family?

(same questions directed at Hell_is_like_Newark)

G

Her family is extremely cool, we hit it off real quick and still have a great relationship with them.
Got lucky on that one!
Best thing I did was quickly figure out common interests between me and her Dad, then laser focus in on that during conversation.

Post: #8

(01-24-2017 04:19 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  

(01-24-2017 04:10 PM)ScrapperTL Wrote:  ...snip...

Thanks for your input. How were you with her family?

Did it take a lot of time to win over her family?

(same questions directed at Hell_is_like_Newark)

G

My mother-in-law hated me at first. Actually, 'feared' would be a better description. Foreigners have a terrible reputation in my wife's country. She likes me a lot now... she was just scared I was going to turn out to be some drunken violent fool.

My wife's family didn't have much say if she could get married. My wife owns the house her family lives in. She decided she was going to marry me and that was that.

Post: #9

(01-24-2017 04:30 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  My mother-in-law hated me at first. Actually, 'feared' would be a better description. Foreigners have a terrible reputation in my wife's country. She likes me a lot now... she was just scared I was going to turn out to be some drunken violent fool.

My wife's family didn't have much say if she could get married. My wife owns the house her family lives in. She decided she was going to marry me and that was that.

What country is your wife from?

Did you have any significant cultural differences to work through?

G

Post: #10

(01-24-2017 05:05 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  What country is your wife from?
Did you have any significant cultural differences to work through?

Thailand. I was raised Protestant, but swore off any religious conviction before entering adulthood.* My wife's Buddhist and frankly Thai Buddhist culture is pretty easy to deal with. We saw eye-to-eye on money and me being head of the household, which has meant a near conflict free relationship.

The closest thing to an "issue" was me adjusting to having someone around all the time (very early in our marriage). My wife felt ignored and confronted me about it. She had a point as I was still in my normal living alone mode. So I made a change in that I did stuff with her more and spent a lot less time on the computer or working in the basement on various projects.

The only other issue I can think of was physical in nature. My wife came down with Grave's disease (hyperthyroid). One thing that can make a person nuts is to have thyroid hormone levels out of wack. Before the surgery (radioactive iodine) she had to go off the drugs that was suppressing her thyroid. That was a tough two weeks for me because she degenerated mentally into an overly emotional mildly retarded vindictive child. She went back to normal after the treatment and spent weeks being REALLY extra nice to me.... she was shocked by her behavior as the memories came back to her. Basically... she went nuts for a bit.

Note to everyone: Your woman may have become a raging bitch voluntarily or she could just have a hormone imbalance. Thyroid issues area very common. Get blood work done first to make sure the problem isn't the latter!



*note to others: I am not anti-Christian.. but did have an issue with Christianity as a kid and young adult due to my experiences with the religion

Post: #11

(01-24-2017 03:32 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  Among the married men who are comfortable sharing, how did you meet your wife?

At a ball organized by church.

(01-24-2017 03:32 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  What was it about her, that made you decide she was wife and mother of your children?

Lost virginity to me, a solid 8.5 , smart but not over-educated, believes in God and observes the faith, parents not divorced , from a wide and materially well suited family (wealthier then mine to make a pragmatic difference but not enough to make a cultural difference) that assured our grandparents would provide big assistance in raising children. Expressed desires for children and family, doesn't know how to use sex as bargaining tool, medium energy, low maintenance, mediocre English speaking ability that indicates low chance of contaminating western degenerate ideas.

(01-24-2017 03:32 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  Why did you choose that (or those) quality above others as the most important?

It is common Red pill knowledge why these qualities are important.

(01-24-2017 03:32 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  What did your parents/family say about her? Was she a good fit for you/your family? Were you a good fit for hers?

My mother was very happy about her, a bit too happy that sometimes worries me because she is too nice to her although I am happy that they get along well. My father has no opinion just accepts things as they are.

(01-24-2017 03:32 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  Did you guys discuss how you'd raise children, have them visit family once or twice a year?

We discuss child raising quite a lot using any traditionalist red pill psychology we come across to. I don't understand what you mean by having them visiting family? Both my and her parents assist with children a lot, sometimes taking children to themselves for a day or several at least once a month or so, so that we can enjoy a time off parenting and relax. Our wide family helps us with children in many ways like elder cousins donating clothes they have grown out from to taking children to educational trips to providing so many gifts that we have to buy very little toys ourselves. There is hardly a week in the year where our family doesn't meet to celebrate some birthday, holiday or for other reason. Family is power.

(01-24-2017 03:32 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  Was there any long distance in the relationship at all?

No, i don't believe in long distance relationships.

(01-24-2017 03:32 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  How long did you date before you married her?

A year of dating and a half a year of cohabiting.

(01-24-2017 03:32 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  What kind of wedding ceremony did you have?

I believe in that he less expensive the ceremony the happier the marriage. Our ceremony was very inexpensive - my only investment was my white wedding suit and the rings. She paid for her dress. There was no engagement ring. The things like wedding cake, champagne, food for guests, and most importantly - space and room were all arranged by our parents using their connections within church and elsewhere. The musicians and photographer, all professionals, were our friends. The ceremony looked thrice as expensive as it actually was due to good connections. It was pretty modest anyway.

(01-24-2017 03:32 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  Did you test her at all?

Yes using a lot of covert techniques. I literally made her write an essay - a fairy tale - and analyzed it using my extensive knowledge of psychology. It was masked as a game - a hoop she had to jump trough in order to qualify herself to me - so she didn't realize it is a serious test. There were other tests too.

I really took this choosing wife thing seriously and I am quite content with the results.

Post: #12

Among the married men who are comfortable sharing, how did you meet your wife?

In a brewpub. We were both semi-regular there, me because I was into craft beer at the time, and she because it was close to her house. It wasn’t really the place I’d go to meet a woman, or “run game.” But we kept seeing each other there, and eventually struck up a conversation.

What was it about her, that made you decide she was wife and mother of your children?

We don’t have any kids, and never intended to, so that wasn’t a consideration.

I can’t really narrow it down to one thing, but what I like about her:

Very pretty and body type I like (spinner)
Feminine (long hair, dresses, always a manicure, etc.)
Reasonably intelligent but not smarter than I am
Caretaker personality (she was an elementary schoolteacher when we met)
Sense of humor (e.g., she laughs at my jokes but seldom makes lame chick jokes)
Fucks with extreme enthusiasm and will do literally anything I want sexually
Enough common interests but not too much overlap
Eager to try new things
Prefers experiences over material goods

I know a lot of men here put great stock in a woman who cooks and cleans, but frankly those things don’t mean a whole lot to me compared to the above. I’m a very good cook myself, really like cooking, and enjoy the occasional fine meal at a restaurant. She’s a good but not spectacular cook, works hard at it, makes whatever I want, and improves very steadily. Two adults don’t make much of a mess around the house, but she does the floors, laundry, bathrooms, etc.

What did your parents/family say about her? Was she a good fit for you/your family? Were you a good fit for hers?

Haha, funny little story about that. The first time my father met her, he posted publicly on my aunt’s Facebook page that “She’s nice but I don’t think they’re a good fit.” But she won everyone over pretty quickly when I took her home for Thanksgiving. She’s very charming on top of being pretty, so people tend to like her.

I’m not a very good fit for her family, to be honest. We’re almost polar opposites, really. Her family is Mormon (she left the church in high school) and I’m an atheist. I’m not militant or in-your-face about it or anything, but I also don’t hide it. I drink alcohol and coffee, sometimes to excess. I have no desire for a McMansion in the suburbs or the latest SUV, and I’m perfectly content with a downtown condo and commuter car. I lift weights. I care very little about owning stuff and prefer spending money on experiences. I’m ten years older than my wife. The only thing I can really talk to her father and brothers about is sports, and I have basically nothing to say to her mother and sisters.

On the plus side, most of her family voted for Trump.

Did you guys discuss how you'd raise children, have them visit family once or twice a year?

We discussed it long enough to agree to never have them. I got a vasectomy years ago.

If we had some hypothetical kids, though, I certainly wouldn’t mind bringing them around her family frequently. We are very much on the same page when it comes to how children should be raised – well-disciplined in a patriarchal household – but don’t want our own.

Was there any long distance in the relationship at all?

Only when I’m on business trips a few times a year. Then she made (and makes) me kinky custom porn videos in case I get bored.

How long did you date before you married her?

About three years.

What kind of wedding ceremony did you have?

Relatively small and simple. About 60 guests at a covered outdoor venue. The officiant was secular, and there was no religious orientation to the ceremony. For the reception, I did splurge on a very good live band (friends, so we got a deep discount) and an open bar (bunch of Mormon guests so it didn’t break the bank).

Did you test her at all?

A few loyalty tests more toward the beginning, which she obviously passed. She’s always been submissive and deferential to me, so there wasn’t much need for other tests.

Post: #13

(01-24-2017 05:21 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  Note to everyone: Your woman may have become a raging bitch voluntarily or she could just have a hormone imbalance. Thyroid issues area very common. Get blood work done first to make sure the problem isn't the latter!

That's really good to know, thanks for that!

(01-24-2017 05:21 PM)Mage Wrote:  

(01-24-2017 03:32 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  Did you guys discuss how you'd raise children, have them visit family once or twice a year?

We discuss child raising quite a lot using any traditionalist red pill psychology we come across to. I don't understand what you mean by having them visiting family? Both my and her parents assist with children a lot, sometimes taking children to themselves for a day or several at least once a month or so, so that we can enjoy a time off parenting and relax. Our wide family helps us with children in many ways like elder cousins donating clothes they have grown out from to taking children to educational trips to providing so many gifts that we have to buy very little toys ourselves. There is hardly a week in the year where our family doesn't meet to celebrate some birthday, holiday or for other reason. Family is power.

I meant by - did you guys discuss how often the children would see the family, which parts, etc, which it sounds like you did. Thanks for understanding my question even if I didn't articulate it well.

(01-24-2017 05:21 PM)Mage Wrote:  

(01-24-2017 03:32 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  What kind of wedding ceremony did you have?

I believe in that he less expensive the ceremony the happier the marriage. Our ceremony was very inexpensive - my only investment was my white wedding suit and the rings. She paid for her dress. There was no engagement ring. The things like wedding cake, champagne, food for guests, and most importantly - space and room were all arranged by our parents using their connections within church and elsewhere. The musicians and photographer, all professionals, were our friends. The ceremony looked thrice as expensive as it actually was due to good connections. It was pretty modest anyway.

Did you have to sell her on the idea of an inexpensive wedding?

(01-24-2017 05:21 PM)Mage Wrote:  

(01-24-2017 03:32 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  Did you test her at all?

Yes using a lot of covert techniques. I literally made her write an essay - a fairy tale - and analyzed it using my extensive knowledge of psychology. It was masked as a game - a hoop she had to jump trough in order to qualify herself to me - so she didn't realize it is a serious test. There were other tests too.

I really took this choosing wife thing seriously and I am quite content with the results.

How long ago did you start wife hunting? How did you decide you were ready?

G

Post: #14

(01-24-2017 05:35 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  Did you have to sell her on the idea of an inexpensive wedding?

No - since she was a religious girl she was constantly at guilt for sleeping with me unmarried and was ready to even have a marriage with no ceremony at all so that she would have no guilt. Actually it was me who wanted a small ceremony - to at least have good photos and see her in wedding dress.
Also she is simply not a materialist and wanted marriage for sake of having a family and children not ceremony.

(01-24-2017 05:35 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  How long ago did you start wife hunting? How did you decide you were ready?

I was not particularly wife hunting, just gaming girls. I always knew that when I would find a girl that would pass all the criteria, I will start a family with her. It would seem pointless, cruel and wasteful for me to leave a marriage material girl just to keep gaming more sluts ad infinitum or until becoming old and unlikable even with game.

I always felt that player's lifestyle is something that will only be a phase for me not my whole life. I like children, I have always wanted children, my ambitions is to raise red pill children that can achieve a lot and be my joy throughout my life, who will share my core traditionalist philosophies.
I have a mystical romantic pagan thinking. I believe in reincarnation, I believe we reincarnate within our bloodline. Trough paying respect to our parents and raising children we connect to eternity. I don't know if this is really so for sure but life makes sense for me when I function believing that. It gives me that primal energy to see life in these principles. I believe these family values to be the covert or overt basis of any traditional faith, the basis that keeps faith's moving with the rest of mythology just being a metaphor for some of society's knowledge or simply a political propaganda that is sold with it.
My parents are also not divorced perhaps the family model is too strong in my mind, I would not like to live alone for too long even if banging fresh pussy every week.

Post: #15

(01-24-2017 05:32 PM)MikeInRealLife Wrote:  Did you guys discuss how you'd raise children, have them visit family once or twice a year?

We discussed it long enough to agree to never have them. I got a vasectomy years ago.

If we had some hypothetical kids, though, I certainly wouldn’t mind bringing them around her family frequently. We are very much on the same page when it comes to how children should be raised – well-disciplined in a patriarchal household – but don’t want our own.

Is there any particular reason you didn't want any children?

(01-24-2017 05:32 PM)MikeInRealLife Wrote:  Did you test her at all?

A few loyalty tests more toward the beginning, which she obviously passed. She’s always been submissive and deferential to me, so there wasn’t much need for other tests.

Would you mind elaborating on how you tested her?

(01-24-2017 06:04 PM)Mage Wrote:  I have a mystical romantic pagan thinking. I believe in reincarnation, I believe we reincarnate within our bloodline. Trough paying respect to our parents and raising children we connect to eternity. I don't know if this is really so for sure but life makes sense for me when I function believing that. It gives me that primal energy to see life in these principles. I believe these family values to be the covert or overt basis of any traditional faith, the basis that keeps faith's moving with the rest of mythology just being a metaphor for some of society's knowledge or simply a political propaganda that is sold with it.
My parents are also not divorced perhaps the family model is too strong in my mind, I would not like to live alone for too long even if banging fresh pussy every week.

That's a really interesting way of putting things. How did you come to believe that? Were you taught it or eventually starting believing that on your own?

G

Post: #16

(01-24-2017 06:22 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  

(01-24-2017 06:04 PM)Mage Wrote:  I have a mystical romantic pagan thinking. I believe in reincarnation, I believe we reincarnate within our bloodline. Trough paying respect to our parents and raising children we connect to eternity. I don't know if this is really so for sure but life makes sense for me when I function believing that. It gives me that primal energy to see life in these principles. I believe these family values to be the covert or overt basis of any traditional faith, the basis that keeps faith's moving with the rest of mythology just being a metaphor for some of society's knowledge or simply a political propaganda that is sold with it.
My parents are also not divorced perhaps the family model is too strong in my mind, I would not like to live alone for too long even if banging fresh pussy every week.

That's a really interesting way of putting things. How did you come to believe that? Were you taught it or eventually starting believing that on your own?

G

It depends on how you look at it.

I was raised as a Christian - spirituality itself and family values could come from there.

I was not satisfied with Christianity itself however - it looked too pussified for me both in my childhood and now. There are also other reasons I don't accept it, I will not go there in this post because it's off topic.

I started to research various forms of spirituality and philosophy in search for more accurate and masculine answers to eternal questions. I have gone over all the world major and many minor religions, philosophies and beliefs.

Ultimately it became clear to me that European paganism - the beliefs that are genetically installed into me makes me most happy, although I was not raised in it I sort have been anyway, considering that my nation is one of the last that was baptized and has still many pagan traditions observed in holidays and even blended with Christianity.

I recommend you listen this famous blogger who has these things explained pretty well and who's world view matches mine to a high degree especially in where spirituality touches family values, he is also a very red pill family man:

Reincarnation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrZh6J1iF6k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkxqQ7YnQl4

Paganism and Christianity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAetDRkT...5L-pm5XvZA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWiXECm0M5g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQCIxnkAtiI

How to find a good wife:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDqQCjkuxuo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00xegtA-...5L-pm5XvZA

If you like this I can also recommend this series done by this guys wife which is very interesting and explains it from the very beginning more systematically, here is link to 1st video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIU78KvMNOE

Post: #17

Among the married men who are comfortable sharing, how did you meet your wife?

I met her at a ball. As soon as I walked through the door, I noticed a smiling, happy, pretty and slender girl amongst a sea of scowling Aussie women, who looked like she just wanted to get up and dance. I thought she was a foreign European girl visiting Australia and since I was on a pretty good streak with that type, I planned my approach right away.

What was it about her, that made you decide she was wife and mother of your children?

The first one was that she gave me her virginity. The second was that she said she wanted to be my helper and property. I started to think about marriage and children with her seriously after that.

Why did you choose that (or those) quality above others as the most important?

One is because we're both traditional and Christian. Two is because before meeting her, I did not want to get married so I set standards for my hypothetical wife sky high including those very two requirements. I believed that I would never meet such a young woman these days, but I did promise myself that if I meet one I'd marry her.

What did your parents/family say about her? Was she a good fit for you/your family? Were you a good fit for hers?

My parents liked her from day one, and my mother in particular is extremely fond of her. I have never known my mother to be so fond of anyone or praise any woman that much.

Likewise her family liked me straight away, especially her father. Her little brother was a bit of a dick at first but he was just turning 20 then and we're now cool.

Did you guys discuss how you'd raise children, have them visit family once or twice a year?

My parents are moving closer (walking distance) to us so they can help with the children. We plan to have 3+. Her family live 5 hours drive away in a little coastal town. They probably would only visit once every few months. We may visit them once or twice a year. We are going to homeschool our children.

Was there any long distance in the relationship at all?

No and I would never do that.

How long did you date before you married her?

We dated for about a year before I told her to marry me. The story is here: /thread-57475.html

What kind of wedding ceremony did you have?

Small-ish with 80 guests, at a very fun little venue. Everything was pretty simple. No silly flower as the ceremony is in a beautiful garden with plenty of nice *living* flowers. She made her two dresses (one for ceremony, one for reception), all the bridesmaid dresses and my suit. We wrote our own vows which would trigger anyone with liberal leaning and any churchian. There's more but you get the idea I'd like to write a thread about it when I have time.

Did you test her at all?

On the very first date, I started out making fun of feminists, and she agreed with me. We talked about men and women being different and having their distinctive roles as taught to us in the Bible. Right away I knew she was vastly different to all Christian girls I've ever come across. I didn't plan to test her on the first date, or any subsequent date. I simply said and did what I wanted, and observed her responses.

There were two things that'd be of interest from our very early dates which I observed. One was at a dance social, we were dancing then I went to the bathroom. After getting out, I saw her dancing by herself turning down invitations from men who tried to approach her, waiting for my return. The second was when I told her that I'd pick her up after work and did not say where or what we were going to do. We ended up just walking from one park to the next getting some simple dinner along the way, and she enjoyed every minute of it. Those things, among others, told me that she just wanted to spend time with me regardless of activities and to only follow my lead.

After I started to consider marriage, I tested her more deliberately. I wrote about one method here: /thread-59894.html - taking her to the very poosy paradises I was going to anyway, when single.

Post: #18

(01-24-2017 07:05 PM)Mage Wrote:  ...snip...

I'll get back to you by PM with more questions on this to avoid derailing the thread.

(01-25-2017 06:17 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  What was it about her, that made you decide she was wife and mother of your children?

The first one was that she gave me her virginity. The second was that she said she wanted to be my helper and property. I started to think about marriage and children with her seriously after that.

Could you elaborate on her wanting to be your property a bit more?

(01-25-2017 06:17 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  What did your parents/family say about her? Was she a good fit for you/your family? Were you a good fit for hers?

My parents liked her from day one, and my mother in particular is extremely fond of her. I have never known my mother to be so fond of anyone or praise any woman that much.

Likewise her family liked me straight away, especially her father. Her little brother was a bit of a dick at first but he was just turning 20 then and we're now cool.

Was there anything in particular that was a turning point for her brother, or did he just cool off and give you more of a chance?

(01-25-2017 06:17 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  Did you guys discuss how you'd raise children, have them visit family once or twice a year?

My parents are moving closer (walking distance) to us so they can help with the children. We plan to have 3+. Her family live 5 hours drive away in a little coastal town. They probably would only visit once every few months. We may visit them once or twice a year. We are going to homeschool our children.

Do you have plan for the homeschool? Textbooks you'll use/how fast you'll go through material, what material you'll cover?

(01-25-2017 06:17 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  How long did you date before you married her?

We dated for about a year before I told her to marry me. The story is here: /thread-57475.html

(01-25-2017 06:17 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  What kind of wedding ceremony did you have?

Small-ish with 80 guests, at a very fun little venue. Everything was pretty simple. No silly flower as the ceremony is in a beautiful garden with plenty of nice *living* flowers. She made her two dresses (one for ceremony, one for reception), all the bridesmaid dresses and my suit. We wrote our own vows which would trigger anyone with liberal leaning and any churchian. There's more but you get the idea I'd like to write a thread about it when I have time.

Please do! I just read your engagement thread and it was epic.

Thanks again for contributing to this thread! I'm very inspired by your example.

G

Post: #19

Quote:Is there any particular reason you didn't want any children?

I'm older (45 now, 36 when I met the wife) and already had a grown "oops" child from when I was much younger. I raised the child from age 8 - she turned out great - but didn't want to start over and spend my whole life raising kids. That part of my life is over.

Quote:Would you mind elaborating on how you tested her?

Simple stuff, really. Telling her I'd be at a certain place and seeing if she'd skip happy hour with the other teachers to meet me. Texting her a pic of a recognizable local brewery glass and seeing if she'd show up at that bar to see me. Setting up situations where she'd need to choose between spending time with me over others.

Like I said, I didn't do much of this. Her religious background and strong father made her submissive and deferential to me by nature, so I didn't need to test her a lot.

Post: #20

(01-26-2017 06:57 PM)MikeInRealLife Wrote:  

Quote:Is there any particular reason you didn't want any children?

I'm older (45 now, 36 when I met the wife) and already had a grown "oops" child from when I was much younger. I raised the child from age 8 - she turned out great - but didn't want to start over and spend my whole life raising kids. That part of my life is over.

That's fair. Can't argue with that. I'm glad your first and only turned out well!

(01-26-2017 06:57 PM)MikeInRealLife Wrote:  

Quote:Would you mind elaborating on how you tested her?

Simple stuff, really. Telling her I'd be at a certain place and seeing if she'd skip happy hour with the other teachers to meet me. Texting her a pic of a recognizable local brewery glass and seeing if she'd show up at that bar to see me. Setting up situations where she'd need to choose between spending time with me over others.

Like I said, I didn't do much of this. Her religious background and strong father made her submissive and deferential to me by nature, so I didn't need to test her a lot.

That makes a lot of sense. Seeing for yourself, how much of a priority in her life she would make you (less important for casual girls, very important for marriageable girls).

G

Post: #21

Here are my answers to your questions :

1. My good friends niece. Met at family function I was invited to.

2. Average looking , not too thin , displayed strong cultural upbringing.

3. Cultural identity and practices with strong home making abilities based on history of the family and upbringing.

4. No problem. Fitted the marriage material profile. Good family. Traditional. No frills and thrills. Keep the progeny going. Good homemaker and cook.

5. Family is in the area so no issues regarding visiting etc.

6. For a short period when i was posted to work in another city.

7. Two years.

8. Marriage officer thereafter traditional reception.

9. Cant recall.

Take home message : Marry a traditional homely girl with proven cooking and homemaking abilities. Not too thin for somehow the not thin ones able to pop out good strong offspring. She will keep the hearth of the home warm , you and your kids well looked after and fed and the living abode in good clean condition. She should be a stay at home mother.

On the side you should be gaming so that your dirty water gets taken out violently.

Then you go home and poke the wife normal/ boring style.

(01-24-2017 03:32 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  While I'm not ready or in a position to get married for the next 3-7 years, at this point in my life, I can’t help but evaluate potential dates for potential wife and mother qualities. I also can’t help but imagine what kind of family life I’d have, and how I’d want to raise my kids. My own parents have been married for over 30 years now and I can only ask them about how they met, so many times.

Among the married men who are comfortable sharing, how did you meet your wife?

What was it about her, that made you decide she was wife and mother of your children?

Why did you choose that (or those) quality above others as the most important?

What did your parents/family say about her? Was she a good fit for you/your family? Were you a good fit for hers?

Did you guys discuss how you'd raise children, have them visit family once or twice a year?

Was there any long distance in the relationship at all?

How long did you date before you married her?

What kind of wedding ceremony did you have?

Did you test her at all?

G

Edited to add the last four questions.
Edited: added more questions

Post: #22

Interesting post.




- Among the married men who are comfortable sharing, how did you meet your wife?

Tinder

- What was it about her, that made you decide she was wife and mother of your children?

The wife part came because we were having a child. I didn't exactly decide she was going to the the mother of my child but I knew she would be good at it. She didn't know this herself. When we conceived, the moment just felt right.

- Why did you choose that (or those) quality above others as the most important?

I was divorced before I met her and the previous relationship was conducted within a blue pill frame. The previous relationship broke down due to perceived status changes.

Before I went into this relationship with Mrs ski pro, I had a very specific list of qualities that I wanted my next Ltr to have. I can't remember them all and I no longer have the phone which they were written in but it was something like;

Feminine
Nice eyes
Makes me laugh
Interesting

There were three others I no longer remember

Anyway, Mrs ski pro hit most of them. I enjoy spending time with her and she appears interested and supportive of what I do.

It's important to remember that I went into this relationship in a red pill mindset.


- What did your parents/family say about her? Was she a good fit for you/your family? Were you a good fit for hers?

My family think she's great. They are mainly happy that I'm happy. Her dad is dead, drunk himself to death (plenty of daddy issues here to work through) her mother lives abroad, never met her. I met her aunt, she loves me, I think because I'm a strong charming guy and I clearly look after her niece in a good way.

- Did you guys discuss how you'd raise children, have them visit family once or twice a year?

Yes. I don't think enough people do talk about this. We discuss it a lot and share the same values on bringing up children.

- Was there any long distance in the relationship at all?

About an 1h30 by car in the early times.


- How long did you date before you married her?

2 years

- What kind of wedding ceremony did you have?

Simple civil service followed by house party with good friends. I did the big wedding first time round. I wish I had listened to my dad about it when he said, just go abroad and take good friends with you. The first one cost me 15k and was full of people I've never seen since.

- Did you test her at all?

All the time. Remember, the game never stops. You have to game your woman all the time. Read up on dread game by Rollo tomassi?


I hope this help, seriously, having a list of things you want in a woman, help screen out the shit ones.

Post: #23

This is an awesome thread, definitely find it interesting as I have been pondering on the subject a lot more lately.

One humble suggestion, I think it would be important to add the following questions in order to give more content, aware of privacy implications though.

- What is your / her nationality, and in which country did you meet?

- What was your / her age when meeting for the first time?

I've already got great value out of this, mainly that ballroom dancing thing. As much as it might not be my interest, I suspected it might be a worthwhile avenue to purse long ago after hearing Cappy blabber on about it.

Btw disregard fresh account I've been a lurker for years.

Post: #24

(02-06-2017 01:44 AM)Burzat Wrote:  1. My good friends niece. Met at family function I was invited to.

What kind of family function? Who did she know there?

(02-06-2017 01:44 AM)Burzat Wrote:  2. Average looking , not too thin , displayed strong cultural upbringing.

What do you mean by not too thin?

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(02-06-2017 04:24 AM)Ski pro Wrote:  Tinder

Really? How did the initial conversation go?

(02-06-2017 04:24 AM)Ski pro Wrote:  I was divorced before I met her and the previous relationship was conducted within a blue pill frame. The previous relationship broke down due to perceived status changes.

Could you elaborate more on the perceived status change?

(02-06-2017 04:24 AM)Ski pro Wrote:  Before I went into this relationship with Mrs ski pro, I had a very specific list of qualities that I wanted my next Ltr to have. I can't remember them all and I no longer have the phone which they were written in but it was something like;

Makes me laugh
Interesting

There were three others I no longer remember

Anyway, Mrs ski pro hit most of them. I enjoy spending time with her and she appears interested and supportive of what I do.

Did she make you laugh? Was she interesting?

- What did your parents/family say about her? Was she a good fit for you/your family? Were you a good fit for hers?

(02-06-2017 04:24 AM)Ski pro Wrote:  My family think she's great. They are mainly happy that I'm happy.

That's really rare these days, it seems.

(02-06-2017 04:24 AM)Ski pro Wrote:  - Was there any long distance in the relationship at all?

About an 1h30 by car in the early times.

Did you have a plan to close the distance?

(02-06-2017 04:24 AM)Ski pro Wrote:  - How long did you date before you married her?

2 years

What made it 2 years instead of 3 or four?

- Did you test her at all?

(02-06-2017 04:24 AM)Ski pro Wrote:  All the time. Remember, the game never stops. You have to game your woman all the time. Read up on dread game by Rollo tomassi?


I hope this help, seriously, having a list of things you want in a woman, help screen out the shit ones.

It really does, thank you.

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(02-07-2017 08:03 PM)crottstep Wrote:  One humble suggestion, I think it would be important to add the following questions in order to give more content, aware of privacy implications though.

- What is your / her nationality, and in which country did you meet?

- What was your / her age when meeting for the first time?

Those are good questions. I'd add them to my list. Would previous posters mind answer these extra two questions?

G

Post: #25

1. My good friends niece. Met at family function I was invited to.


What kind of family function? Who did she know there?


2. Average looking , not too thin , displayed strong cultural upbringing.


What do you mean by not too thin?

Here are the answers to your questions :

1. My friend invited me to his family function , an engagement. My future wife was there. The bride to be cousin. My friend is the uncle to these women. My friends sisters are much older than him so his neices and him ages are quite close.

But at things like prayer gatherings, weddings you will pick up traditional type women.

2. My wife is not hot by any means. A 5 at best. However she makes up with strong home making abilities. Stay at home mom. Perfect for bringing up children and homemaking.

I hope this clears up your questions.