Post: #1

Hi, I am 18 and will soon be graduating high school. I am trying to not go to college as a virgin. What are some steps I can take to getting laid? I go to a small school where there are not many partys, and the game could be better. What are some goals I could make to achieve by a certain date?

Post: #2

Start reading "Bang" by Roosh. Pretty useful when starting. Or "how to be 3% man".
I cannot tell you about the goals, it depends on many factors.
In addition be careful with lay goals, don't go desperate or loose your frame. Remember the goal here is to be the best version of you in many aspects of life. The girls will come eventually.

Post: #3

Here's what you do if you just want to get laid as fast as possible and with minimum effort. Every step is important as each of them fit the big picture.

Dress very well

You want to look as attractive as you can. If that means clothes you don't usually wear then oh well. You want to look like a real deal. Like a guy who fucks chicks. Your image, presence and demeanor have to make sense.

Go out late night

Hit the club after the peak of the party. When people already had their fun, had their drinks and now things start to get repetitive so it's time for afterparty or end of the night. You can go fully sober, it doesn't matter because you're not there to party, you're there to find DTF girl and pull her as quickly as possible. It might as well last 30 minutes or so.

Look for DTF girls

DTF girls are the ones that are not really engaged in any activity. They kind of talk to their friends but not really focused on it. They kind of dance but move rather sloppy like it bores them. They kind of have fun but look around at others around. Basicaly they look like you when you're there but don't wanna be there no more. Bit bored, bit disengaged, "not present", without direction or purpose there, looking around, etc.

Approach straightforwardly with strong eye contact

- she's walking same direction - take her hand and pull her closer
- she's walking opposite direction/past you - gently grab her hand and pull her so that she feels the pull and stops
- she's sitting - tap and take her hand and gently pull so that she has to stand up
- she's dancing in a circle with her friends - tap and turn her around
- she's dancing alone or next to her friends - cut in and plant yourself in front of her, don't dance [she's not really dancing after all, she's just moving her hips, etc]
- she's backturned - tap her and turn her around
- she's against the wall facing the venue with friends turned towards her - approach her and as you talk try to switch places as fast as possible so that now you're the one leaning against the wall.

Now once she's facing you then you bluntly tell her what you're thinking about. Bluntly meaning no smile, no jokes, strong eye contact. But not mean or angry. Just neutral and like horny. You want her feel that you mean business. You want the tension to intense. It can be overwhelming for you if you're not used to holding strong deep long eye contact.

"I've never seen you before, you're adorable, who are you?"
"I found you, you're coming with me"
"I'm gonna be honest with you, I choose you, you're mine tonight"
"I want you tonight, all I can promise you is a couple of orgasms"
"You're gorgeous girl come here I'm kidnapping you from this place very soon"
"I'm not gonna bullshit you I want you right now"
"I wanna put a baby in your tummy tonight"
"I think you deserve to be fucked without a condom"
"I'm inviting you to my afterparty tonight"
"If there were no people here I would be all over you"
"You won me over, I got price for you"

Some of those lines are ridiculous, I know, but a club at 3am with reckless chicks inside IS ridiculous so nothing is too outlandish then. You're direct cause you're there super late at night in front of a girl who looks like she's still there only because she's looking for a dick. It's appropriate.

You can hold her both hands while you're saying that. You can put your arms around her. You can even gently take her head in both of your hands as you say your thing. You can do it kindly or bluntly. Choice is yours.

Sometimes you can even break the ice just by holding strong eye contact without saying anything. But again that eye contact has to be masculine, strong and kind of intimidating, Not happy faggy fun. She's likely to get hot inside and start mumbling somthing out. I actually recommend to try it out just for practice. Just go in, stand in front of her, say nothing and stare at her. Works great when you lock eyes before you go up to her.

Follow through

- She rejects - She says bye bye / fuck off / no thanks, then turns around and ignores you. This is legit blowout. You move on.

- She freezes - She looks down, avoids eye contact, hamster spins like crazy, looks like she's about to pop as I call it. If she freezes she's on the fence, you can escalate physically now to amp it up.

- She objects but doesn't leave - She shittests you like you can's say shit like this / I'd never do that / you're too mean / I'm not that easy / I'm not that kind of a girl / you're fucking joking right? / I am not a slut / wrong address / I have a BF / etc, or she stares at you to figure out if you're for real or not.

Then you stand by what you said and persist. You can say "we're both adults we can do what we want" / "this is me take it leave it" / "drop that attitude, it's not attractive" / "this is how nice I can be [kiss neck]" / "you're talking to me you like what i got for you" / "don't talk to me like that I'm a grown ass man", etc. Do not buy her bullshit. Speak from the position of power. No fancy answers necessary just stay true to your intentions. Whatever she says you say how you want her or how she wants you.

Give her some space

Even DTF girl won't just give herself to you like that of course. It's fine. By this time you did your job, she knows what's your deal. Take a step back, chill for few moments, but stay near her. You can say "I'm not forcing you to do anything so I'll give you some time to decide" / "I'm gonna give you some time before you agree" or something to that extent. Then mind your own business. Look around, check your phone, take a sip, etc, but don't disengage fully, keep glancing at her, tempt her.

Deal with interruptions

When someone interrupts quickly say "we like each other what's the problem". Give that person minimum attention and come back to your girl.

Pull

When you recognize some sort of yes from the girl you just leave with her. She can simply agree to it, or sort things our with her friend, or become submissive to you. That's a go. You escalate now or leave together.. "Lets get out of here" / "Let's go now" / "We're leaving" / "I'm taking you with me".

Take her hand and go.

------------------------

This is how those fast epic pulls go down and funniest stories are made. Especially in summer vacations. We used to have fun doing our thing till 2am and then go out to look for adventures doing something like what I described above. It's just very basic raw ONS game.

Post: #4

(01-08-2017 11:01 AM)_nick1_ Wrote:  Hi, I am 18 and will soon be graduating high school. I am trying to not go to college as a virgin. What are some steps I can take to getting laid? I go to a small school where there are not many partys, and the game could be better. What are some goals I could make to achieve by a certain date?

Read Bang.
Lift weights, dress well, approach women, go on dates, escalate, etc.

You haven't given much info about yourself to go on.
Are you going on dates with women? Are you making out with them?

Post: #5

Don't think about it too much. Don't force it. It'll happen. Don't be too picky ie) say yes to the first... and get it out of the way.
No one judges you on your first. In the end, no one really cares how any girl you nail looks.
My first was a chubby one and now I consistently get 8s... so...
The younger you look. Girls know you're trying to lose your virginity aka Desperate
I've seen this movie before...

Post: #6

I do go to the gym and dress nice, I think one of my biggest problems is being self conscious. I had a retainer for years and from that a got a lisp which has made me quieter. Girls do not find me ugly but my game is not there. What should I work on to fix this?

Post: #7

Mike Cernovich seems to be a legend around here. Goto his Youtube or something. That guy has a major lisp. He doesn't care.
I think self consciousness is a good thing. Being self aware is also a good thing. You just gotta be self conscious in positive ways.
Like giving off the aura that you're skilled in the bedroom. There are plenty of guys who lift and dress well but they just don't have that
Sexual Conviction aka Magnetic Swag. I cannot tell you how to develop swag. No one can. That's really the fun part. Experiment for yourself.
Make a game of it. The mask that gets you the results is the one for you. This becomes the real you.

But honestly, unless you're a complete freak. Losing your virginity is easy if you just let it happen. Don't put a deadline on it. I went to school with guys
who I thought would never lose their virginity. Poof, it happened. Get a car that your bought yourself....

Post: #8

(01-08-2017 11:01 AM)_nick1_ Wrote:  Hi, I am 18 and will soon be graduating high school. I am trying to not go to college as a virgin. What are some steps I can take to getting laid? I go to a small school where there are not many partys, and the game could be better. What are some goals I could make to achieve by a certain date?

Here's the beauty of it. You're about to graduate. You will never see these people again, so, literally, what do you have to lose? (Ironically, some film scenes come to mind where no body ever leaves town and everyone knows each other).

I don't know how big your school is, but I would definitely start talking to girls and be a bit, how should I say it... Forthright with them. Don't be direct (damn you're hot), or they can go to whomever and get you in trouble. But, speak clearly, and ask for a meet\date after school, especially if you drive.

Stop them in the Halls, as if you were at the mall, and talk even for a minute or two. Talk them in class, they joke on you, who gives a damn? Go to the buses after school lets out and talk to girls standing and talking. You are graduating, and you will move on to different territory. Go places (like the mall in this case) find them, and talk to them. Their parents may be with them, but oh well. Find single girls or girls who look even remotely bored at dances, and talk to them. Again I would be forthright, but not direct. School officials are generally liberal to the core, and will take any instance of looking alpha to squash and make an example.

Whatever you do, don't do nothing! You will regret it, and that will become another beast in the closet you will have to deal with, when you do decide to tackle this problem in your life (like the rest of us can attest to).

Post: #9

XXL gave us all an excellent cheat sheet up there, if you had to condense a good game book down to a single page I couldn't think of a better way to do it.

Post: #10

What is the best way to flirt with them? Also what about snapchatting, do I want to be direct with them?

Post: #11

Thanks for kind words however what I described is actually not good game at all. This is just the simplest method to get laid as fast as possible based on turning stones and pulling whats available that night.

OP you can pull it off without flirting just be brave persist and decide what to do when based on my outline.

In the meantime you better educate yourself on game if you want to have choice in women.

Post: #12

(01-09-2017 06:14 PM)XXL Wrote:  Thanks for kind words however what I described is actually not good game at all. This is just the simplest method to get laid as fast as possible based on turning stones and pulling whats available that night.

OP you can pull it off without flirting just be brave persist and decide what to do when based on my outline.

In the meantime you better educate yourself on game if you want to have choice in women.

What happens if you get blown out by the first girl, do you approach another, etc?

Post: #13

XXL with the find the hoe data sheet!!


Awesome

My fave line at pick up time is "Yes, No or Maybe"?

move quick and machine gun approach, find that available pussy thats DTF

Post: #14

(01-10-2017 05:58 PM)augen sehen Wrote:  

(01-09-2017 06:14 PM)XXL Wrote:  Thanks for kind words however what I described is actually not good game at all. This is just the simplest method to get laid as fast as possible based on turning stones and pulling whats available that night.

OP you can pull it off without flirting just be brave persist and decide what to do when based on my outline.

In the meantime you better educate yourself on game if you want to have choice in women.

What happens if you get blown out by the first girl, do you approach another, etc?

It's completely irrelevant and doesn't affect next attempt with another girl. It's not like another girl sees you and becomes uninterested. Besides, when you just go for ONS like this you keep turning stones until you find it and everything around doesn't matter.

Post: #15

(01-08-2017 06:58 PM)XXL Wrote:  Here's what you do if you just want to get laid as fast as possible and with minimum effort. Every step is important as each of them fit the big picture.

<snip>

Post: #16

(01-08-2017 06:58 PM)XXL Wrote:  Here's what you do if you just want to get laid as fast as possible and with minimum effort. Every step is important as each of them fit the big picture.

Dress very well

You want to look as attractive as you can. If that means clothes you don't usually wear then oh well. You want to look like a real deal. Like a guy who fucks chicks. Your image, presence and demeanor have to make sense.

Go out late night

Hit the club after the peak of the party. When people already had their fun, had their drinks and now things start to get repetitive so it's time for afterparty or end of the night. You can go fully sober, it doesn't matter because you're not there to party, you're there to find DTF girl and pull her as quickly as possible. It might as well last 30 minutes or so.

Look for DTF girls

DTF girls are the ones that are not really engaged in any activity. They kind of talk to their friends but not really focused on it. They kind of dance but move rather sloppy like it bores them. They kind of have fun but look around at others around. Basicaly they look like you when you're there but don't wanna be there no more. Bit bored, bit disengaged, "not present", without direction or purpose there, looking around, etc.

Approach straightforwardly with strong eye contact

- she's walking same direction - take her hand and pull her closer
- she's walking opposite direction/past you - gently grab her hand and pull her so that she feels the pull and stops
- she's sitting - tap and take her hand and gently pull so that she has to stand up
- she's dancing in a circle with her friends - tap and turn her around
- she's dancing alone or next to her friends - cut in and plant yourself in front of her, don't dance [she's not really dancing after all, she's just moving her hips, etc]
- she's backturned - tap her and turn her around
- she's against the wall facing the venue with friends turned towards her - approach her and as you talk try to switch places as fast as possible so that now you're the one leaning against the wall.

Now once she's facing you then you bluntly tell her what you're thinking about. Bluntly meaning no smile, no jokes, strong eye contact. But not mean or angry. Just neutral and like horny. You want her feel that you mean business. You want the tension to intense. It can be overwhelming for you if you're not used to holding strong deep long eye contact.

"I've never seen you before, you're adorable, who are you?"
"I found you, you're coming with me"
"I'm gonna be honest with you, I choose you, you're mine tonight"
"I want you tonight, all I can promise you is a couple of orgasms"
"You're gorgeous girl come here I'm kidnapping you from this place very soon"
"I'm not gonna bullshit you I want you right now"
"I wanna put a baby in your tummy tonight"
"I think you deserve to be fucked without a condom"
"I'm inviting you to my afterparty tonight"
"If there were no people here I would be all over you"
"You won me over, I got price for you"

Some of those lines are ridiculous, I know, but a club at 3am with reckless chicks inside IS ridiculous so nothing is too outlandish then. You're direct cause you're there super late at night in front of a girl who looks like she's still there only because she's looking for a dick. It's appropriate.

You can hold her both hands while you're saying that. You can put your arms around her. You can even gently take her head in both of your hands as you say your thing. You can do it kindly or bluntly. Choice is yours.

Sometimes you can even break the ice just by holding strong eye contact without saying anything. But again that eye contact has to be masculine, strong and kind of intimidating, Not happy faggy fun. She's likely to get hot inside and start mumbling somthing out. I actually recommend to try it out just for practice. Just go in, stand in front of her, say nothing and stare at her. Works great when you lock eyes before you go up to her.

Follow through

- She rejects - She says bye bye / fuck off / no thanks, then turns around and ignores you. This is legit blowout. You move on.

- She freezes - She looks down, avoids eye contact, hamster spins like crazy, looks like she's about to pop as I call it. If she freezes she's on the fence, you can escalate physically now to amp it up.

- She objects but doesn't leave - She shittests you like you can's say shit like this / I'd never do that / you're too mean / I'm not that easy / I'm not that kind of a girl / you're fucking joking right? / I am not a slut / wrong address / I have a BF / etc, or she stares at you to figure out if you're for real or not.

Then you stand by what you said and persist. You can say "we're both adults we can do what we want" / "this is me take it leave it" / "drop that attitude, it's not attractive" / "this is how nice I can be [kiss neck]" / "you're talking to me you like what i got for you" / "don't talk to me like that I'm a grown ass man", etc. Do not buy her bullshit. Speak from the position of power. No fancy answers necessary just stay true to your intentions. Whatever she says you say how you want her or how she wants you.

Give her some space

Even DTF girl won't just give herself to you like that of course. It's fine. By this time you did your job, she knows what's your deal. Take a step back, chill for few moments, but stay near her. You can say "I'm not forcing you to do anything so I'll give you some time to decide" / "I'm gonna give you some time before you agree" or something to that extent. Then mind your own business. Look around, check your phone, take a sip, etc, but don't disengage fully, keep glancing at her, tempt her.

Deal with interruptions

When someone interrupts quickly say "we like each other what's the problem". Give that person minimum attention and come back to your girl.

Pull

When you recognize some sort of yes from the girl you just leave with her. She can simply agree to it, or sort things our with her friend, or become submissive to you. That's a go. You escalate now or leave together.. "Lets get out of here" / "Let's go now" / "We're leaving" / "I'm taking you with me".

Take her hand and go.

------------------------

This is how those fast epic pulls go down and funniest stories are made. Especially in summer vacations. We used to have fun doing our thing till 2am and then go out to look for adventures doing something like what I described above. It's just very basic raw ONS game.

Good post. But in a dance floor, speaking is difficult especially in such an authoritative manner, she has to be isolated and that is another challenge. And if she is with her friends, there is a high chance they will know what is happening and just drag her away. But what is the chance of this happening at 3am?

Post: #17

(01-15-2017 01:54 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  Good post. But in a dance floor, speaking is difficult especially in such an authoritative manner, she has to be isolated and that is another challenge. And if she is with her friends, there is a high chance they will know what is happening and just drag her away. But what is the chance of this happening at 3am?

Tap, pull her in closer talk to her ear. If still hard, take her hand and move away from the speakers.

They are there at 3 am cause they're looking for something more than dancing and fun. They expect guys approaching. They want some action. So take action. Go up, take girl's hand and pull her away from them and closer to you so that friends do not hear what you tell her. They won't block upon the approach. If they notice you make the girl overtly uncomfortable or you harass her after she legitimately blows you out then they will step up.

Post: #18

(01-15-2017 07:30 AM)XXL Wrote:  

(01-15-2017 01:54 AM)Hazaer Wrote:  Good post. But in a dance floor, speaking is difficult especially in such an authoritative manner, she has to be isolated and that is another challenge. And if she is with her friends, there is a high chance they will know what is happening and just drag her away. But what is the chance of this happening at 3am?

Tap, pull her in closer talk to her ear. If still hard, take her hand and move away from the speakers.

They are there at 3 am cause they're looking for something more than dancing and fun. They expect guys approaching. They want some action. So take action. Go up, take girl's hand and pull her away from them and closer to you so that friends do not hear what you tell her. They won't block upon the approach. If they notice you make the girl overtly uncomfortable or you harass her after she legitimately blows you out then they will step up.

How successful is this approach as compared to the traditional approach where you arrive early, approach and build attraction, change venues etc. over the course of the night.

Would being solo be more suitable for this kind of closing time game then?

Would this game depend on the kind of city you are in? Big vs Small? Europe vs North America vs Aus/Nz? Users can comment on their experience.