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(01-06-2017 05:26 PM)weambulance Wrote:  
Quote:How does an islamist make it to the American army?

In Obama's army, that's probably worth an extra pay grade when you enlist.

In other news about Obama:


Obama also ignored Governor Scott after the Florida Orlando shooting.

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(01-06-2017 11:28 PM)Mekorig Wrote:  I know there is a name in the old spanish race catalog for a guy like this...the imperial spaniards used to have a full catalogue of names depending of race-mixing.

Yes, the Spanish Empire is well-known for its detailed classification catalogues; they’re quite interesting, actually. I would be hesitant to call him a mulatto (half-European, half-African), since he seems slightly more European than that, but the Iberian component is not nearly as prominent as that of moriscos, who were the children of a Spaniard and a mulata. Thus, I’d think he is somewhere between the two; he may fall just short of the level of European blood required to be classified as a jíbaro, which stood, if I recall correctly, at around 60 (65, perhaps) per cent. Seeing as he is Puerto Rican, there is likely a small Taíno contribution, too.

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I agree with you (as "manlet" is one of those words that belongs in the same category as "creepy"), but English is not his native language and he is likely to have learnt a lot of vocabulary from mainstream American media; just bear that in mind.

Anyway, it seems like he got banned for some reason. Oddly, this seems to happen to every Turkish member.

He has gotten into spats with others and must have had some warning level. He was a bit combative and kind of blue pilled in several ways.

That is why lurking is so important.

We have a Turkish member with almost 100 rep. I won't say who it is because I don't know if he has told others his ethnic background here, but there is no excuse. No one puts a gun to anyone's head and demands that they come up with stuff to post under duress. Gotta learn the rules and the culture here. It's not an option.

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(01-07-2017 06:24 AM)Bey Wrote:  
(01-06-2017 06:09 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Manlet is feminist shaming language used against men and has no place on the forum. I don't care how slight of build he is, our mission is not to try an emasculate men more than is being done already.

I agree with you (as "manlet" is one of those words that belongs in the same category as "creepy"), but English is not his native language and he is likely to have learnt a lot of vocabulary from mainstream American media; just bear that in mind.

Anyway, it seems like he got banned for some reason. Oddly, this seems to happen to every Turkish member.

It was one among multiple posts where he clearly openly cucked for Islam and tried to deflect from what is happening despite claiming to be a secular Turk. But then he was strangely quite versed in different nuances of Taqiya - obfuscation and lying.

As it turned out - getting laid was not the shooters's problem. There are plenty of short hot latinas and he is a rather good-looking masculine soldier with some gangsta-bent. Despite his lack of height, he certainly found enough girls going for him.

This claim that you cannot become a terrorist because you get laid or are born affluent is just bullshit. ISIS is chock full with Saudi and Western-born wealthy soldiers who are not in it for the money. Of course lack of intelligence and money does help, but there are different forms of Jihad for those who go into terror.

I would personally defend any Muslim I see as innocent or a good person, but I would never try to defend this religious ideology, because this simply never works.
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(01-06-2017 07:28 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  If this guy is white Hispanic then I'm snow white Asian and Obama is lily white African. We're all white.

Haha exactly. Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Ricky Martin, Cameron Diaz, Lionel Messi, people from Spain etc - they're white hispanic.

This guy? Give me a fucking break.

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(01-07-2017 09:23 AM)Teedub Wrote:  
(01-06-2017 07:28 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  If this guy is white Hispanic then I'm snow white Asian and Obama is lily white African. We're all white.

Haha exactly. Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Ricky Martin, Cameron Diaz, Lionel Messi, people from Spain etc - they're white hispanic.

This guy? Give me a fucking break.

Yup, I'm having a hard time understanding how anyone apart from SJWs and race baiters like that retard tariq nasheed, could even consider this guy white. Rashida Jones and Jennifer Beals are whiter than this guy.
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(01-07-2017 12:19 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Seems user:Likeaballer has martyred his account shilling for Islam.

He will no doubt get 73 reps in the afterlife.

I have met the guy, very briefly...Whithout much detail, I can say its a funny character to say the least)))) Will miss some of his funny posts in The Ukraine thread)))

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(01-07-2017 11:12 AM)Rocha Wrote:  
(01-07-2017 12:19 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Seems user:Likeaballer has martyred his account shilling for Islam.

He will no doubt get 73 reps in the afterlife.

I have met the guy, very briefly...Whithout much detail, I can say its a funny character to say the least)))) Will miss some of his funny posts in The Ukraine thread)))

Are you implying that he is Jewish?
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(01-07-2017 11:22 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  
(01-07-2017 11:12 AM)Rocha Wrote:  
(01-07-2017 12:19 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Seems user:Likeaballer has martyred his account shilling for Islam.

He will no doubt get 73 reps in the afterlife.

I have met the guy, very briefly...Whithout much detail, I can say its a funny character to say the least)))) Will miss some of his funny posts in The Ukraine thread)))

Are you implying that he is Jewish?

I think the ))) at the end of a sentence is some variation of a smiley face I've been seeing recently.
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(01-06-2017 06:55 PM)Gmac Wrote:  I just flew in and out of there this past November for Thanksgiving... crazy.

I was there in November as well. I remember thinking it was odd that you have to walk outside to get to a different terminal when connecting. I think this the only airport I had to do this.
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Maybe I repeat myself, but always go to the local sources. The Miami Herald is all over this. Unlike the ideologues at the national level, the locals know something about the area and usually don't try to push an agenda.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/co...58659.html

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/co...44474.html
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(01-07-2017 11:28 AM)Horus Wrote:  
(01-07-2017 11:22 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  
(01-07-2017 11:12 AM)Rocha Wrote:  
(01-07-2017 12:19 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Seems user:Likeaballer has martyred his account shilling for Islam.

He will no doubt get 73 reps in the afterlife.

I have met the guy, very briefly...Whithout much detail, I can say its a funny character to say the least)))) Will miss some of his funny posts in The Ukraine thread)))

Are you implying that he is Jewish?

I think the ))) at the end of a sentence is some variation of a smiley face I've been seeing recently.

Yes, it's not about Jews. Rocha spent too much time in Ukraine, it's basically the Ukrainian (and probably Russian) smileys.

It can be one, two , three or more parentheses at the end of a word.

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(01-07-2017 12:23 PM)puckerman Wrote:  Maybe I repeat myself, but always go to the local sources. The Miami Herald is all over this. Unlike the ideologues at the national level, the locals know something about the area and usually don't try to push an agenda.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/co...58659.html

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/co...44474.html

Good one. You do realize that virtually all local media even across the world is owned by the same guys who own CNN and FoxNews?

They go only into more detail, but the second article claims that his "motive is unknown".

Hey - it is the same motive unknown when the shooter screams Allahu Akbar before detonating his bomb.

It does not even matter whether he had mental issues. Why not disclose his entire history, his current religion, whether he visited a mosque and what the deal was with claiming to be "driven to fight for ISIS"?

Fuck the media - they will never tell you the truth unless the truth is concidentally in line with the agenda they try to push.

What I can tell you now:

1) They will do their best to steer the discussion away from him being a hispanic immigrant - because the globalists want more of them into the US

2) And they will willfully ignore all aspects of him being in any way or form aligned or even motivated by the Religion of Peace - they will deliberately even suppress information when they have proof of his conversion and numerous mosque visits. The reason is because they want as many Muslims to move to the US as possible via the refugee resettlement program. 100.000+ per year will keep on flooding in invited by globalist NGOs and various other organizations so that the US government can claim innocence.

So anything else is irrelevant - mental issues, PTSD etc.

This will keep on happening. In addition you have plenty of obvious false flags in the US, so that complicates the matter even more, but those belong to the globalist rule as wel - kill a few sheep in order to terrify and control the herd.

That instance does not seem to be one of those, but who knows......
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Zelcorpion- I respect you and often disagree with you, however given what we know so far it appears this man had a mental disorder. I am not trying to argue about Islam, globalists, or immigration. This man served in the armed services for 10 years and claimed to hear voices in his head persuade him to fight for ISIS. That does not strike me as a true radicalization to Islam, it strikes me as a Schizophrenic man with auditory hallucinations and a ISIS fixation likely related to his military service. When he was hospitalized they probably gave him a second generation anti psychotic, waited until he did not hear voices, and discharged him-once he left he was on his own. He could have stopped taking his meds, adjusted to them and had a subsequent rise in dopamine, or lost his meds-any number of scenarios. As it stands with the facts I know so far it appears this military veteran, like so many of our veterans, had mental issues and fell through the cracks. As more information comes perhaps my view will change.
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Read the full article to see how they uncovered the link to his MySpace music. I have left it out for the sake of brevity.

Quote:Fort Lauderdale Airport terrorist Esteban Santiago registered on MySpace under the name “Aashiq Hammad” and recorded Islamic religious music on the site, 3 years before he ever deployed to Iraq as a U.S. soldier, destroying the lying mainstream media’s narrative that he was just a mentally disturbed veteran and that “Islam had nothing to do with it.”

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And take a look at the three songs recorded by “Aashiq Hammad.” The first one is titled “La ilaha illAllah”, which is Arabic for “There is no God but Allah,” and the first half of the Muslim declaration of faith, the Shahadah:

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The song “La ilaha illAllah” by “aashiq” is indeed just an Arabic recitation of the Muslim declaration of faith “There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his messenger.” We recorded the song and you can download and listen to it for yourself here.


“Intentional” recitation of the Shahadah is generally considered sufficient to convert to Islam. Listen to that song. It sure sounds like Esteban Santiago was “intentional” about what he was saying!

And the best part?

That song was recorded in 2007, 3 years before Esteban Santiago went to Iraq as a U.S. soldier in 2010, destroying the lying mainstream media’s narrative that he was a “mentally disturbed veteran”, although even they admit Santiago went into an FBI office in 2015 and told agents he was being forced to watch ISIS videos by voices in his head (or something).

2007 was also the year that “Naota33” was posting on an explosives/weapons forum about mass-downloading Islamic propaganda videos, as GotNews exclusively revealed yesterday.

Santiago was definitely mentally disturbed, but if he was calling himself “Aashiq Hammad”, recording Islamic religious music online, and downloading Islamic terrorist propaganda all in 2007, 3 years before his first deployment to Iraq, what do you really think is the root cause here?
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^^^If this is true I stand corrected. Lets see how the information comes in in the next few days.
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(01-07-2017 12:23 PM)puckerman Wrote:  Maybe I repeat myself, but always go to the local sources. The Miami Herald is all over this. Unlike the ideologues at the national level, the locals know something about the area and usually don't try to push an agenda.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/co...58659.html

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/co...44474.html

As the event actually took place here in Broward County, the Sun Sentinel (our local paper) has been covering it quite extensively.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/

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(01-07-2017 02:35 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  Zelcorpion- I respect you and often disagree with you, however given what we know so far it appears this man had a mental disorder. I am not trying to argue about Islam, globalists, or immigration. This man served in the armed services for 10 years and claimed to hear voices in his head persuade him to fight for ISIS. That does not strike me as a true radicalization to Islam, it strikes me as a Schizophrenic man with auditory hallucinations and a ISIS fixation likely related to his military service. When he was hospitalized they probably gave him a second generation anti psychotic, waited until he did not hear voices, and discharged him-once he left he was on his own. He could have stopped taking his meds, adjusted to them and had a subsequent rise in dopamine, or lost his meds-any number of scenarios. As it stands with the facts I know so far it appears this military veteran, like so many of our veterans, had mental issues and fell through the cracks. As more information comes perhaps my view will change.

Well, yeah, but your level headed, grounded, middle of the bell curve, well-balanced men (and never women) are never (or very very rarely) going to commit heinous acts because of a religion or philosophy.

It's going to be "guys like this"...guys who would do something like this (even if it's because of PTSD) who, when they buy in to a religion or philosophy or culture, whatever you want to call it...they're the ones who might be influenced to do something awful like this.

They're the ones who, in a more ideal culture, might not do that awful act. We can't say he wouldn't have done this without Islam, but we can look at statistics and the broad scope of millions of people and draw reasonable conclusions.

Regardless of the reason he did this, Zelcorpion's points are all valid. The media ignores and avoids obvious background details. If they could, they'd probably not report on the incident at all.

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(01-07-2017 02:35 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  Zelcorpion- I respect you and often disagree with you, however given what we know so far it appears this man had a mental disorder. I am not trying to argue about Islam, globalists, or immigration. This man served in the armed services for 10 years and claimed to hear voices in his head persuade him to fight for ISIS. That does not strike me as a true radicalization to Islam, it strikes me as a Schizophrenic man with auditory hallucinations and a ISIS fixation likely related to his military service. When he was hospitalized they probably gave him a second generation anti psychotic, waited until he did not hear voices, and discharged him-once he left he was on his own. He could have stopped taking his meds, adjusted to them and had a subsequent rise in dopamine, or lost his meds-any number of scenarios. As it stands with the facts I know so far it appears this military veteran, like so many of our veterans, had mental issues and fell through the cracks. As more information comes perhaps my view will change.

Well, yeah, but your level headed, grounded, middle of the bell curve, well-balanced men (and never women) are never (or very very rarely) going to commit heinous acts because of a religion or philosophy.

It's going to be "guys like this"...guys who would do something like this (even if it's because of PTSD) who, when they buy in to a religion or philosophy or culture, whatever you want to call it...they're the ones who might be influenced to do something awful like this.

They're the ones who, in a more ideal culture, might not do that awful act. We can't say he wouldn't have done this without Islam, but we can look at statistics and the broad scope of millions of people and draw reasonable conclusions.

Regardless of the reason he did this, Zelcorpion's points are all valid. The media ignores and avoids obvious background details. If they could, they'd probably not report on the incident at all.
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(01-07-2017 02:56 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  ^^^If this is true I stand corrected. Lets see how the information comes in in the next few days.

Hehe - yeah - as I mentioned. I heard from American Hispanic Ex-Muslims that sometimes entire streets of Latinos converted to Islam - it was that popular.

The question is also why this Religion of Peace is so often misunderstood - he may have had some mental issues, but there are huge variations of that - simple depressions, minor PTSD, guilt over killing Muslims in Iraq (!), .... You simply don't do something like that unless it has always been inside you and something has made you feel more radical in that area. Otherwise folk who get black-out drunk would kill and maim people while in truth some guys are even nicer when drunk.

Just a mere 2 years ago I did not see Islam as negatively until I started reading their texts and listening to former Salafis, converts, reverts, Ex-Muslims, highly intelligent Ex-scholars. Then it made sense. Sure - the biggest evil are the globalists, but right after them are the Islamists.

This guy lived 7 minutes away from the only mosque in Alaska, coincidence? He listened to this Islamic music for years before, coincidence? He made selfies of himself as an Islamic warrior, he claimed he heard voices about having to join ISIS? ISIS does not care whether you hear voices or are a true believer in Mohammed - if you kill infidels in their name, then you are welcome.
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RE: Mass shooting at Ft. Lauderdale Airport
(01-07-2017 03:16 PM)rotekz Wrote:  

Hehe - that picture chosen reminds me of something:

[Image: trayvon+martin.png]

They had to pick an old pic without the long Salafi beard, because then it would have been clear what drove his ideology. (Muslims are required to wear long beards if they take the texts seriously.)
01-07-2017 04:10 PM
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