(12-29-2016 12:37 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote: I personally like The Sopranos better due to the fact there was far more comedic relief and "winking" at the audience. Plus, and maybe this is my inner racist talking, I much prefer watching Italian gangsters and the inner workings of the mob as opposed to East coast drug dealers.
Exactly same reasons why I don't watch it either. I am not racist, but I never watched anything that had to do with da hood, thugz and things like that.
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(12-29-2016 01:06 PM)Turnus Wrote: Little late to the party, but just started watching House of Cards over the holidays. Season 1 was great!
"House of Cards" is definitely one of my favorite shows. I didn't think Season 3 was as good as the other seasons. but overall it's still better than pretty much any other series out right now.
Stop watching "House of Cards" after the last episode in season two. It's better that way. Seasons 3 and 4 are the Claire Underwood Show and it gets really sucky.
As for "The Wire," I kept hearing for years how it was simply the single greatest production in the history of televised images.
I made it through the first episode and turned off the second episode halfway through. It was a cop show. Like all the other cop shows. It was nothing I hadn't seen before in "NYPD Blue" a million times.
Maybe it "gets better" but if the show wasn't good enough to grab me during the pilot, I'm not gonna waste time investing hours and hours waiting for it to "get good."
I felt the same way about "Deadwood" and "Justified." I know a lot of people like those shows too but I just couldn't get into them.
Couldn't make it through the last season of house of cards. Show really missed the fucked up energy of season 1 with Zoe and Frank, basically felt like an edgier West Wing by Season 3.
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Frank being a closet homo also made me stop watching.
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Anyone watching Grand Tour? If you love fast cars, you'll like this show. The hosts travel the world reviewing and test driving exotic autos. There is also some comedic relief involved. I just watched the first two episodes and I think I'm hooked.
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I think The Wire season 2 was actually good at showing how globalization was fucking over middle class blue-collar workers (most of them white in Baltimore). Though I am sure David Simon is probably an SJW, the thing that the show shows beautifully is that it's not a black or a white thing, the "system" or the "establishment" will do anything to protect itself. The Wire repeatedly shows powerful people in Baltimore (the black commissioner, the senator, and a few others) being corrupt as hell. And then when the white mayor gets elected on a platform of "hope and change" he tooq quickly shows his true colors as someone who's just as corrupt.
Basically, the message I took from the show was that it's not a racial thing, but the system/establishment will always protect itself first no matter who's in power.
You have to stick with the wire and itll click suddenly.
Was gonna kill myself during first episode. I was hooked after a few.
The slow burn is at first overbearing but soon it becomes a pleasure. One of the only shows where its very realistic as far as how the whole dynamic between cops and the gang is.
As for grand tour, its much superior to te current top gear but cant help but miss old top gear. I laugh my ass off at these guys even when its scripted as hell, but i feel the old top gear was slightly less so.
The 2 part Namibia special was absolutely terrible though, no idea what the producers were thinking. That would have been one segment of a show usually and they decide to stretch it over two.
(01-03-2017 01:52 AM)TheSlayer Wrote: I think The Wire season 2 was actually good at showing how globalization was fucking over middle class blue-collar workers (most of them white in Baltimore). Though I am sure David Simon is probably an SJW, the thing that the show shows beautifully is that it's not a black or a white thing, the "system" or the "establishment" will do anything to protect itself. The Wire repeatedly shows powerful people in Baltimore (the black commissioner, the senator, and a few others) being corrupt as hell. And then when the white mayor gets elected on a platform of "hope and change" he tooq quickly shows his true colors as someone who's just as corrupt.
Basically, the message I took from the show was that it's not a racial thing, but the system/establishment will always protect itself first no matter who's in power.
I agree. One of the best lines in the whole show(you hear it in the vid I posted earlier), "You follow the drugs and you come up with drug addicts and drug dealers, You follow the money and you don't know where it's going to lead".
This show is not just about "street corner thugs", it's also about corruption at every level.
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(01-03-2017 01:52 AM)TheSlayer Wrote: I think The Wire season 2 was actually good at showing how globalization was fucking over middle class blue-collar workers (most of them white in Baltimore). Though I am sure David Simon is probably an SJW, the thing that the show shows beautifully is that it's not a black or a white thing, the "system" or the "establishment" will do anything to protect itself. The Wire repeatedly shows powerful people in Baltimore (the black commissioner, the senator, and a few others) being corrupt as hell. And then when the white mayor gets elected on a platform of "hope and change" he tooq quickly shows his true colors as someone who's just as corrupt.
Basically, the message I took from the show was that it's not a racial thing, but the system/establishment will always protect itself first no matter who's in power.
*Spoilers*
Season 2 of the Wire is my favorite. The demise of the stevedores union is a microcosm of American and international industry and perhaps a more relevant piece of social commentary than the Wire's portrayal of inner city drug dealing.
Season 2 brilliantly connects the dots, and displays how a largely irrelevant part of society "West Baltimore" exists and is allowed to exist because of global factors and influences. There is an argument to be made that the Greek is the most important character in the show. He is the subtle angel investor that lets the heavy hitters on cast deal with the mess he causes due to his supply (while he watches and counts his cash from the background).
My takeaway from season 2: A domestic, or local, problem (drugs) can't exist without internationalization (sourcing and supply from abroad). The domestic economy (long-shore work) can't exist without internationalization (capitalism). Therefore, while Baltimore may seem like a unique and insular incident, it is merely a symptom of the new age global economy.
Frankly, no other season of the Wire is so profound. Season 4, for example, while excellent, tells you exactly what you already knew: city public schools suck ass. Season 2 is for the thinking man, and will remain my favorite.
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(01-03-2017 01:52 AM)TheSlayer Wrote: I think The Wire season 2 was actually good at showing how globalization was fucking over middle class blue-collar workers (most of them white in Baltimore). Though I am sure David Simon is probably an SJW, the thing that the show shows beautifully is that it's not a black or a white thing, the "system" or the "establishment" will do anything to protect itself. The Wire repeatedly shows powerful people in Baltimore (the black commissioner, the senator, and a few others) being corrupt as hell. And then when the white mayor gets elected on a platform of "hope and change" he tooq quickly shows his true colors as someone who's just as corrupt.
Basically, the message I took from the show was that it's not a racial thing, but the system/establishment will always protect itself first no matter who's in power.
*Spoilers*
Season 2 of the Wire is my favorite. The demise of the stevedores union is a microcosm of American and international industry and perhaps a more relevant piece of social commentary than the Wire's portrayal of inner city drug dealing.
Season 2 brilliantly connects the dots, and displays how a largely irrelevant part of society "West Baltimore" exists and is allowed to exist because of global factors and influences. There is an argument to be made that the Greek is the most important character in the show. He is the subtle angel investor that lets the heavy hitters on cast deal with the mess he causes due to his supply (while he watches and counts his cash from the background).
My takeaway from season 2: A domestic, or local, problem (drugs) can't exist without internationalization (sourcing and supply from abroad). The domestic economy (long-shore work) can't exist without internationalization (capitalism). Therefore, while Baltimore may seem like a unique and insular incident, it is merely a symptom of the new age global economy.
Frankly, no other season of the Wire is so profound. Season 4, for example, while excellent, tells you exactly what you already knew: city public schools suck ass. Season 2 is for the thinking man, and will remain my favorite.
It's been years since I've watched the series and I was actually planning on watching it again. I will keep an open mind about season 2. I didn't hate it, I just didn't like as well as I liked the others. Watching it with a new perspective could change that.
I'm watching "My 600lb Life." It's the show about people who have the gastric bypass and lose weight. This week, they're profiling a set of twin sisters who crush the scales at 600 each. They're the usual sob story. Parents were fuck ups, molest by dad's druggie friends, mom is a drunk, etc.
I'm disgusted at the trash they're eating. The whole show repulses me. I feel bad for their dog.
Anyone watch the season premiere of Always Sunny In Philadelphia?
I don't have cable so I did not. They did just add Season 11 on Always Sunny on Netflix and I have watched a few of those. The one where Frank loses his mind is funny, and the one where Dennis and Mac move the suburbs was hilarious. I tried watching the one where they go skiing but I couldn't make it through it.
Overall Seasons 3-6 were the height of the show for me (which is usually true for all TV shows). Still great moments though.
"Once you've gotten the lay you have won."- Mufasa
"You Miss 100% of the shots you don't take"- Wayne Gretzky
Mad Dogs on amazon prime- just started watching it the other day. I believe its only the one season and its only like 10 episodes too. pretty good show.
about a bunch of former college buddies meeting up for a get together out of the US and something goes horribly awry. hard to pin down exactly how to describe it. I guess i'd say its a dark comedy/crime/thriller.
stars Billy Zane, Steve Zahn, Ben Chaplin and Michael Imperioli (who I've gotta admit have always hated as an actor, but he's pretty good in this one). anyhow, would def recommend.
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This TV show is not something noticeable except for... Game
The cook character Dion PATRAS is textbook seducer, bedding every ladies in the show.
The guy is a scoundrel, always in deep black shit burning restaurant, fucking his lawyer in the first episode, doing coke and what not...
The show is full of surprises but not where you think it will be...
The first season is already out
Tell them too much, they wouldn't understand; tell them what they know, they would yawn.
They have to move up by responding to challenges, not too easy not too hard, until they paused at what they always think is the end of the road for all time instead of a momentary break in an endless upward spiral
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Quote:A con man (Giovanni Ribisi) on the run from a vicious gangster takes cover from his past by assuming the identity of his prison cellmate, Pete, "reuniting" with Pete's estranged family, a colorful, dysfunctional group that threatens to drag him into a world just as dangerous as the one he's trying to escape - and, just maybe, give him a taste of the loving family he's never had.
The main character-Marius is a confidence trickster and is just getting outta jail but bad things await on the outside. So he comes up with a plan where he intends to assume the identity of a fellow inmate. Once out his plan seems to be working and everyone appears to be falling for the con mans charms- or do they?
After leaving prison, Marius takes cover from his past by assuming the identity of his cellmate, Pete. He moves in with Pete's long-estranged, unsuspecting family and is roped into the family's bail bond business. He's a criminal taking down other criminals.
Atlanta is great though, it's fun by not being fun and give a lot of truths
Tell them too much, they wouldn't understand; tell them what they know, they would yawn.
They have to move up by responding to challenges, not too easy not too hard, until they paused at what they always think is the end of the road for all time instead of a momentary break in an endless upward spiral
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(01-06-2017 10:16 AM)graffix13 Wrote: Anyone watch the season premiere of Always Sunny In Philadelphia?
I don't have cable so I did not. They did just add Season 11 on Always Sunny on Netflix and I have watched a few of those. The one where Frank loses his mind is funny, and the one where Dennis and Mac move the suburbs was hilarious. I tried watching the one where they go skiing but I couldn't make it through it.
Overall Seasons 3-6 were the height of the show for me (which is usually true for all TV shows). Still great moments though.
Just watched the first episode of the new season and holy shit it was bad. Not funny at all. Not only was it a "musical" episode it is was also straight out of the liberal social justice playbook.
Premise of the episode is the gang becomes black for a day and the entire episode is about deconstructing racial stereotypes and shaming white people. Basically a BLM propaganda video. I have no problem with them making a racial politics episode, but at least make it funny. All the jokes were predictable and lame.
Did the show always have these ridiculous liberal undertones and social justice themes or is this a new thing? I used to enjoy always sunny, don't remember it ever being this bad even though there were occasional episodes that missed the mark. Hope the next episodes this season are better.
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(01-06-2017 10:16 AM)graffix13 Wrote: Anyone watch the season premiere of Always Sunny In Philadelphia?
I don't have cable so I did not. They did just add Season 11 on Always Sunny on Netflix and I have watched a few of those. The one where Frank loses his mind is funny, and the one where Dennis and Mac move the suburbs was hilarious. I tried watching the one where they go skiing but I couldn't make it through it.
Overall Seasons 3-6 were the height of the show for me (which is usually true for all TV shows). Still great moments though.
Just watched the first episode of the new season and holy shit it was bad. Not funny at all. Not only was it a "musical" episode it is was also straight out of the liberal social justice playbook.
Premise of the episode is the gang becomes black for a day and the entire episode is about deconstructing racial stereotypes and shaming white people. Basically a BLM propaganda video. I have no problem with them making a racial politics episode, but at least make it funny. All the jokes were predictable and lame.
Did the show always have these ridiculous liberal undertones and social justice themes or is this a new thing? I used to enjoy always sunny, don't remember it ever being this bad even though there were occasional episodes that missed the mark. Hope the next episodes this season are better.
In all honesty they're not usually like that. It's just a bad episode. The guys in the show usually attack women to the same level we do. Two episodes later they talked about spying on their mothers. Dee accused them of creepily spying on women. Danny DeVito responds basically saying it's not the way you're saying it because they're old. So they referenced the wall women have big time. There's a solid minute dialogue in the opening scene about how women hit the wall but men don't nearly as easily.
I'm a die-hard fan of the show that's seen every episode at least twice. One of my favorite shows on television. In real life, the actors are pretty liberal, with Danny DeVito being a huge Bernie Sanders supporter while he ran, but on the show they're more republican. Charlie is definitely someone who would be a Trump supporter if you've seen the Charlie Goes America on Everybody's Ass episode. Dennis is creepy as fuck with women but he knows how to manipulate them and kind of explores the ideas of manipulating women in the DENNIS system, though admittedly he took that kind of far even by our standards.
Frank is someone that can't stand Clinton on the show. YEARS before she ran for office, they were talking about how women usually can't make good leaders and when Dee tried to reference Clinton, Frank responds by saying she's awful because she hates freedom. I can't really think of a good example for Mac but I'll assume he'd be a republican given he's a closet homosexual that publicly criticizes gay people on the show as well as being deeply involved in Catholicism.
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(01-24-2017 10:06 PM)yankeetravels Wrote: In all honesty they're not usually like that. It's just a bad episode. The guys in the show usually attack women to the same level we do. Two episodes later they talked about spying on their mothers. Dee accused them of creepily spying on women. Danny DeVito responds basically saying it's not the way you're saying it because they're old. So they referenced the wall women have big time. There's a solid minute dialogue in the opening scene about how women hit the wall but men don't nearly as easily.
I'm a die-hard fan of the show that's seen every episode at least twice. One of my favorite shows on television. In real life, the actors are pretty liberal, with Danny DeVito being a huge Bernie Sanders supporter while he ran, but on the show they're more republican. Charlie is definitely someone who would be a Trump supporter if you've seen the Charlie Goes America on Everybody's Ass episode. Dennis is creepy as fuck with women but he knows how to manipulate them and kind of explores the ideas of manipulating women in the DENNIS system, though admittedly he took that kind of far even by our standards.
Frank is someone that can't stand Clinton on the show. YEARS before she ran for office, they were talking about how women usually can't make good leaders and when Dee tried to reference Clinton, Frank responds by saying she's awful because she hates freedom. I can't really think of a good example for Mac but I'll assume he'd be a republican given he's a closet homosexual that publicly criticizes gay people on the show as well as being deeply involved in Catholicism.
Fair enough, just a bad episode I guess. I watched the second one where the gang goes to a waterpark and it was much better. Lots of laugh out loud moments just like I used to remember. The show has always been pretty politically incorrect with occasional red pill moments as well which was why I was so surprised by the season premier.
01-24-2017 10:29 PM
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(01-24-2017 10:06 PM)yankeetravels Wrote: I'm a die-hard fan of the show that's seen every episode at least twice. One of my favorite shows on television. In real life, the actors are pretty liberal, with Danny DeVito being a huge Bernie Sanders supporter while he ran, but on the show they're more republican. Charlie is definitely someone who would be a Trump supporter if you've seen the Charlie Goes America on Everybody's Ass episode. Dennis is creepy as fuck with women but he knows how to manipulate them and kind of explores the ideas of manipulating women in the DENNIS system, though admittedly he took that kind of far even by our standards.
Frank is someone that can't stand Clinton on the show. YEARS before she ran for office, they were talking about how women usually can't make good leaders and when Dee tried to reference Clinton, Frank responds by saying she's awful because she hates freedom. I can't really think of a good example for Mac but I'll assume he'd be a republican given he's a closet homosexual that publicly criticizes gay people on the show as well as being deeply involved in Catholicism.
I like that show, but you realize all of those things are meant to be insulting conservatives, right? Charlie and Frank's conservative views are represented as simple-minded strawmen, and "closet homosexual who publicly criticizes gay people" is exactly the stereotype the left wants to create in people's minds. "Anyone who criticizes gay politics is probably a closet homo" is right up there on the list with "any man who supports gun rights probably has a small dick and uses guns as a phallic symbol".
That said, in general the show is pretty good for some general edgy humor, and they don't usually go into the politics overly much or in a particular serious way. They run down religion quite a bit through Mac though. Overall the main characters are all portrayed as degenerate idiots without many redeeming qualities (with Charlie as the sometimes exception.)
All I ask from a show like that is that that politics are a small part, or that they are at least somewhat balanced. Mostly Sunny manages that, but I haven't seen any of the most recent season yet, so I hope they aren't going all SJW on our asses, that would be a shame.
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Finished up a Netflix show the other day- Bloodline, starring Ben Mendelsohn from Rogue One, and Kyle Chandler from Friday Night Lights as the main characters, with a handful of actors from other stuff in it. great show I'd recommend if you're needing something to kill some time.
2 seasons on Netflix with a third and final one to come out in May I think. first season was a slow start but really good after that. second season was leaner and meaner and really hooked me in.
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