Post: #1

A week ago, I was flying in premium economy from europe to Boston.

Not a big deal, for flights over 5 hours I book airlines with premium economy seating. I get more leg room, can sleep, and the food is an improvement.

I always recline my seat because airline seats are already under a 90* angle. After take off, I had this old cunty American woman jab something into my seat to prevent it from reclining. At first I thought something was wrong with the seat, so after take off I began violently pushing back on my seat to get it to recline.

Eventually, I heard this crunch and my seat gloriously reclined. I think the cunt behind me stuffed something in my seat to prevent it from reclining!

Later, when I got up to grab my free snacks the lady was giving me this horrendous stink eye. I could care less.

I paid for the seat, it reclines, i'm goin to recline it. I could give 2 shits if the person in front of me reclines. If the person behind me wants me space, recline your seat too or pay for 1st class. Hell premium economy is essentially what 1st class was back in the 90s.

Bitch ultimately switched seats.

Anyone else have stories of people like this?

Post: #2

Not thread-worthy.

Post: #3

This is likely what you encountered
http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/gadgets/22-g...ht-n189191 or the old wedged water bottle trick. Either are frowned upon by the airlines. Reclining fully on a seat paid for is your full right.

I've heard from plenty of economy travelers experiencing altercations similar to what you describe and worse. In premium economy however? I have no idea what kind of entitled asshole would bother in a section where you already have ample leg space.

Post: #4

(12-26-2016 11:31 AM)Suits Wrote:  Not thread-worthy.

Post: #5

(12-26-2016 11:35 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 11:31 AM)Suits Wrote:  Not thread-worthy.

Dude, this is a total dupe. We, as a forum, solved the classic "reclining seat" issue years ago in this informative and helpful thread.

Just follow the instructions in the thread and you'll never have to worry about being on the same flight as a dumb bitch again.

Post: #6

This is actually a problem caused by airlines, who are squeezing more people into their seats. I don't like when people recline, because I can't use my laptop. But I also understand the need to recline. People will fight when there's not enough space, whether it's a woman or not.

Post: #7

I agree that you should do whatever you want with your seat within reason - or just pay for first class.

Post: #8

Two options:

1. Fly Japan Airlines. 34" pitch in economy = US Airline's premium eco

2. Fly business class. Skip the bottle service and pay for nicer seats.

Post: #9

lol ill give a funny-ish story about my most recent flight;

Was probably about an hour into a nap, if I have an early morning (6am in this case) flight i will stay up all night so as to force myself to sleep on the plane. Then some old geezer starts violently pulling on the back of my chair from the top as he is moving out of his seat to go to the toilet, it was as if someone was violently shaking me to wake me up, so I got up and I say "er excuse me why are you doing that?" and the cunt ignored me and walked off, didnt even look at me and I said this not more than a foot away from him. Anyway I just sat back down, tried to go to sleep again and on his return he does the same exact thing, fuck it I got up and told him "nah not this again, you have a chair, dont use mine for balance use yours, im trying to sleep". The guy just looks at me with a blank stare, at which point im like ???? wtf, his wife sat by the window then says "hes deaf and has no hearing aid so he cant hear you". I try explain in sign language, but he just laughs at me...the cunt...really? I proceed to have to put up with this dude getting up multiple times for the rest of the flight, his bladder must not exist. Planes, they drive me mad.

Post: #10

(12-26-2016 11:45 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 11:35 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

(12-26-2016 11:31 AM)Suits Wrote:  Not thread-worthy.

<snipped image of suits being a party pooper>

Dude, this is a total dupe. We, as a forum, solved the classic "reclining seat" issue years ago in this informative and helpful thread.

Just follow the instructions in the thread and you'll never have to worry about being on the same flight as a dumb bitch again.

When are you going to invite me out to China? I'll fly couch the whole way so I'll whine about it to you when I land. Maybe make a thread about it too.

Post: #11

They call it cattle class for a reason.

Post: #12

You need to be a baller to fly business class regularly on long haul. I got lucky 2 times and got upgraded for free on the Istanbul-Bangkok and Istanbul-NY route, and oh boy let me tell you it was one of my best experiences. You need shell out anywhere between 2.5k to 5k if you want to fly real business class on long haul NON STOP.

Some airlines like Ukraine International offer very cheap business class on long haul, but you don't get real business class service there trust me. The seat cannot be fully reclined into a bed and so on.

Airlines that offer real business class: Turkish,Qatar,Emirates,Cathay,British etc you get the idea.

And there are a select few who even offer real first class.

Qatar,Emirates are the ones that I know of. Cathay probably does too.

Check this out





You can take a shower in the fucking plane. Amazing.

Post: #13

When I was a small child I was messing with the seat in front of me before takeoff and pressed the button to pop the built in phone on a cord out of the seatback that they used to have on the old planes. Long story short neither my parents nor any of the flight attendants could get the thing to go back in. The whole flight ended up delayed 45 minutes.

Post: #14

(12-26-2016 01:20 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  You need to be a baller to fly business class regularly on long haul. I got lucky 2 times and got upgraded for free on the Istanbul-Bangkok and Istanbul-NY route, and oh boy let me tell you it was one of my best experiences. You need shell out anywhere between 2.5k to 5k if you want to fly real business class on long haul NON STOP.

Some airlines like Ukraine International offer very cheap business class on long haul, but you don't get real business class service there trust me. The seat cannot be fully reclined into a bed and so on.

Airlines that offer real business class: Turkish,Qatar,Emirates,Cathay,British etc you get the idea.

And there are a select few who even offer real first class.

Qatar,Emirates are the ones that I know of. Cathay probably does too.

Check this out





You can take a shower in the fucking plane. Amazing.

Emirates and another Middle East airline offer private rooms for first class flyers. If I recall correctly, the same ticket on those flights will get you an included 15 or 30 minute massage at the Emirates lounge.

I was blown away with premium economy. I can't imagine flying something like that.

Anywho, it seems that reclining your seat on a flight has become something of a "crabs in a bucket" mentality for other cattle er passengers flying in coach. I've flown a fair amount in my lifetime and the only time I saw someone make a scene was on a red eye flight which I presumed was because they were grouchy.

Take a look at the arrogance in this reddit thread: https://m.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comment..._airplane/

Quote:It may be rude to recline your seat.

Caveat: this applies to, for example, morning/daytime/evening, domestic flights in the US (and pretty much any flight anywhere less than a few hours or so). If the flight is late at night, intercontinental, the cabin lights are dimmed and the steward/esses leave you alone for several hour stretches at a time, so that a few hours of sleeping is a possibility, the majority of people are reclining/sleeping, then reclining is okay.

The loss of a significant percentage of space to the person behind far outweighs the minor increase in comfort a few degrees of tilt provides the recliner. To respond to a common theme here, yes, you paid for a seat that reclines, but I also paid for a space on the plane, which space includes all of the space between my non-reclined seat and the non-reclined seat in front of me.

If the person in front of me reclines, I may act out passive-aggressively (gave up trying to ask politely years ago) and suddenly disremember the rules of polite air travel, doing things like: slamming my tray table; drumming on my tray table; yanking hard on the back of their seat to contort my way into the aisle when I have to exit the row during flight; and constantly banging my knees into the back of the seat. In short, I do everything possible to ensure the person who reclined does not get uninterrupted sleep. Though I do ask politely/have the flight attendant ask to unrecline when being served something that requires use of the tray table.

All of us poor proles are stuck in the same crappy situation in steerage class. There's no justification for someone else to attempt to selfishly put their comfort above mine for a short catnap.

Then again, this to me pretty much defines the type of trash that post on reddit but I believe this to be a marker of the modern liberal, "i'm miserable and everyone else should be miserable too" attitude.

Crabs in a bucket.

Post: #15

It sounds like the person woman behind OP had installed a "Knee Defender" or like device to prevent your seat from reclining.
http://gizmodo.com/a-gadget-that-stops-s...1626696368

The cracking sound you heard was probably you breaking it when you forced the seat.

As you can imagine, the use of such as thing has cause a lot of problems.

The way I get around and avoid such situation is that I usually pay the extra $30 to $50 for either a first row seat or a seat with more room on an exit row. Usually, I am pressed for time, and need to get somewhere as soon as I get off the plane, so on my outbound flight I will pay to be in row one in order to avoid losing time with people slowing getting their stuff and get off the plane. A few time I noticed that I was the only person in the first row.

Post: #16

(12-26-2016 01:20 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  You need to be a baller to fly business class regularly on long haul. I got lucky 2 times and got upgraded for free on the Istanbul-Bangkok and Istanbul-NY route, and oh boy let me tell you it was one of my best experiences. You need shell out anywhere between 2.5k to 5k if you want to fly real business class on long haul NON STOP.

Some airlines like Ukraine International offer very cheap business class on long haul, but you don't get real business class service there trust me. The seat cannot be fully reclined into a bed and so on.

Airlines that offer real business class: Turkish,Qatar,Emirates,Cathay,British etc you get the idea.

And there are a select few who even offer real first class.

Qatar,Emirates are the ones that I know of. Cathay probably does too.

Check this out





You can take a shower in the fucking plane. Amazing.

That video is Emirates First Class, not Business. Business is rather less nice. Though still beats Economy by miles obviously.

You don't really need to be a baller to fly business class regularly though. If you just stick to one airline for long-haul flights and are flying regularly its very easy to rack up miles, which lead to FF status, which leads to bonus miles and more regular free upgrades on top of that. It becomes a positive circle. Mileage upgrade prices with most airlines aren't too crazy, either.

I fly business class long haul for work a couple of times a year and get the miles credited to my personal account. That combined with a few personal economy long-haul trips a year usually gives me enough miles to upgrade a couple of my personal flights. And I usually get randomly bumped up on a couple others due to maintaining FF status, which puts me at the head of the queue for upgrades.

There are loads of FF nerds who do it in even more roundabout ways too - hotel stays bonuses, credit card bonuses etc. It's possible to fly business class regularly while being relatively poor if you play the system right. Check out Global Entry's frequent flyer thread on this forum.

Post: #17

^ I've probably spent more than 10k on airfare in Turkish Airlines in the last 2 years. I only managed to rack up enough miles to get upgraded to Business Class once! I used it on my Istanbul-NY flight.

10k might not be a big sum for some of you, but its probably more than what most people spend on airfare in their lifetime.

I can only fly business on short haul flights with my FF miles. On short haul I could give 2 fucks if I fly business or not, its not worth it on short haul. Business class only makes a difference on long haul!

On a 2 hour flight from Ankara to Kiev I don't care if I even stand up during the whole flight

Post: #18

This thread needs more Global Entry.

Post: #19

(12-26-2016 01:08 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  When are you going to invite me out to China? I'll fly couch the whole way so I'll whine about it to you when I land. Maybe make a thread about it too.

When do you want to visit? Weather is going to suck until late March at least, but April is awesome.

I just have a small place far from the center of Beijing right now (spent the last 6 months focusing on business), but I'll probably move back into a bachelor pad in a trendy neighborhood by late April and should have plenty of room to host a visitor comfortable if you don't want to shell out for a hotel room.

Post: #20

Reserve a seat either in the first row or behind the emergency row to ensure this never happens. Otherwise, you will have to communicate like a decent human being to work things out with fellow passengers.

Post: #21

If I applied the golden rule, I would like to be able to recline the seat only slightly, and I would like to be able to force the person in front of me to recline the seat only slightly as well. I can understand where redditor is coming from. It's not "crabs in a bucket"- he would be much more comfortable if the person in front didn't recline- and he doesn't mind not reclining himself.

To be honest airlines should have separate sections for those who like reclines and those who like legroom/straight tray tables. It would even clear any ambiguity if they disabled reclining on certain seats.

Post: #22

Yes. This is the only way to deal with it when it does happen.

Post: #23

(12-26-2016 03:00 PM)EvanWilson Wrote:  The cracking sound you heard was probably you breaking it

lol hes gotta buy him a new one.

Post: #24

(12-26-2016 04:03 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  ^ I've probably spent more than 10k on airfare in Turkish Airlines in the last 2 years. I only managed to rack up enough miles to get upgraded to Business Class once! I used it on my Istanbul-NY flight.

You've likely bought into the wrong fare codes. Some classes (W/Y/Z etc not eco/business) cost just a tad more but give 50% more miles earnings.