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In October, a woman started a pro-Hillary Facebook group called Pantsuit Nation. Millions of women joined and shared their "inspiring" tales "against sexism." She took those stories, trademarked the group name, and got a book deal where it appears to the be the sole financial beneficiary. Her fellow feminist comrades feel ripped off.

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Quote:Libby Chamberlain, the group’s creator, said she hopes the book will counter negative memes about Clinton. “The internet is full right now of every possible combination of things being said [about Clinton] except for this,” she said an interview with Mashable, “[Pantsuit Nation] is not a place to convince anyone how great she is. It’s a place to celebrate how great she is.” Chamberlains initial goal was quite simple, to create a small group and convince three dozen or so friends to wear pantsuits on election day when they voted for Clinton. But only two weeks after the group’s launch, the page boasted a million members.

Chamberlain (pictured) is set to publish a Pantsuit Nation book on May 9th with Flatiron Books. The Times describes the project as “the collective voices of the women who shared their stories of overcoming or facing sexism, racism or xenophobia.” The book will be comprised of posts and images submitted to the Facebook page, and Chamberlain will act more as an editor rather than author, choosing what user content appears in the book.

However, this deal has already received intense blowback from Pantsuit Nation members. Harry Lewis, a student and male member of the group, published a blog at the Huffington Post titled “Pantsuit Nation Is A Sham.” The post appears to have generated 20,000 social shares at the time of this writing.

Lewis argues that Chamberlain’s book deal is a cash grab with “no transparency” regarding how, or even if, users will be compensated for the content they created

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/12/21...book-deal/

Quote:She hired a literary agent, Jennifer Rudolph Walsh, to help her field inquires from agents and publishers, and quickly struck a deal with Whitney Frick, executive editor of Flatiron Books. “This is so much more than a book about one candidate or even one election,” Ms. Frick said.

In a Facebook post announcing the book news to the group, Ms. Chamberlain emphasized that the book was a collective effort, calling it “a book BY YOU.”

Except that you don't get paid for it. Laugh

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/19/books/....html?_r=0


She claims that she has contacted the original contributors, but group members see this is a fast cash grab.

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interesting. Given that all of this was posted on facebook, and facebook claims an irrevocable liscence to everything posted there, shouldn't they also sue her for a share of the book royalties?

Also, if she backstabs her sisters this savagely, imagine what she'll do to her husband (if she has one) once she gets the divorce tingles.

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Does ROK have any protections Roosh? Why can't one of these new alt-right chicks just copy and paste the articles into a book, trademark it, and sell it?

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(12-22-2016 12:58 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Does ROK have any protections Roosh? Why can't one of these new alt-right chicks just copy and paste the articles into a book, trademark it, and sell it?

The content is copyrighted by the individual authors.

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(12-22-2016 12:58 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Does ROK have any protections Roosh? Why can't one of these new alt-right chicks just copy and paste the articles into a book, trademark it, and sell it?

We've already had that happen with stories from Fisto's SEA threads where someone plagiarized them and tried to sell them on Amazon. As far as I recall the guilty party was identified and banned from the forum after being called out.

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Wow....

This is so typical. If I understand this right, it's at the very least unethical.

Looks like she basically solicited free content from people under false pretenses, then re-packaged it as her own work without disclosure where she was the sole beneficiary.

Those people have every right to feel aggrieved. I'm not a copyright or trademark expert, but in the past I've asked attorney Mark Randazza a question. He's a great guy as well as courtroom Prince of Darkness (a good thing).

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(12-22-2016 01:09 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  We've already had that happen with stories from Fisto's SEA threads where someone plagiarized them and tried to sell them on Amazon. As far as I recall the guilty party was identified and banned from the forum after being called out.

Can anyone point me towards the banned member? Just curious to see if their behaviour matches a predictable pattern that I've noticed.
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Copyright is automatic as soon as you create something, in the US anyway. Registration isn't required until you want to sue someone for infringement.

I'm not an IP attorney but unless the woman who started the group had a plan to do this from the beginning and designed her group membership rules to allow for it, she's not legally allowed to just take their work and compile it into a book. As described, what she's doing doesn't fall under fair use.

...But if there's a real book deal in the works, she probably did set things up so she had automatic license to use the content created by group members. If people agreed to that as a condition of joining, well, the warning was there even if they didn't take heed.

It's amusing from where I'm sitting either way. Either 4 million Cat lady got scammed, or there's going to be legal drama when the chick gets sued. It's always funny watching these feminist types run headlong into the brick wall of reality.
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It would be sweet justice if the group members sued her, then all the male lawyers on both sides cleaned up with tidy billable hours. The freakin' Patriarchy always wins! Sad Big Grin

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I hope she gets sued.
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Sounds like cannibalism.

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(12-23-2016 04:44 AM)weambulance Wrote:  Copyright is automatic as soon as you create something, in the US anyway. Registration isn't required until you want to sue someone for infringement.

I'm not an IP attorney but unless the woman who started the group had a plan to do this from the beginning and designed her group membership rules to allow for it, she's not legally allowed to just take their work and compile it into a book. As described, what she's doing doesn't fall under fair use.

...But if there's a real book deal in the works, she probably did set things up so she had automatic license to use the content created by group members. If people agreed to that as a condition of joining, well, the warning was there even if they didn't take heed.

It's amusing from where I'm sitting either way. Either 4 million Cat lady got scammed, or there's going to be legal drama when the chick gets sued. It's always funny watching these feminist types run headlong into the brick wall of reality.

So unless she covered her ass, she's looking at a class action lawsuit. Whip

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Either way, comedy ensues!
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Not to mention, what benefit is there to attempt to salvage the image of Hillary Clinton?

After Jan.20, she could face all manner of legal proceedings or court cases.
Not to mention.
Ol' Hilldawg is one more 9/11 New York nose dive away from a massive concussion.
Her health won't improve by 2020.
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I can't say I'm surprised, it's not like anyone should've expected anything original to come from a feminist, or even a woman for that matter.

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Quote:'This is a betrayal of safe space'

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Even safe spaces aren't safe.

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