Post: #151

The smart Germans should mobilise their strong men together and start owning guns. If it's not war, then tell me what the hell it is.

The government has failed to provide them security. Mama Angela actually helps to make the country unsafe by her terrorist inviting asylum policy.

It's the duty of their ordinary men to gun down these rats.

Post: #152

(12-21-2016 01:40 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  The left, cuckservatives and the media have been extremely delusional and evil in regards to their definition of what a refugee is.

They first expanded it to include people from countries that are not at war but are dictatorships like Eritrea, Iran and various -stans.
Then to include anyone from a country afflicted with terrorism (the irony is staggering, I know) like Nigeria and Pakistan.
Then to include anyone from a very poor country like Bangladesh and several African countries.
Then to include anyone who wants "better economic opportunities" because "everyone deserves to have a chance to become wealthy" (just remember that these same leftists love railing against consumerism and wealth-seeking), which in comparison to Germany is pretty much the entire world*.

And then on top of that there were no border checks because having a poor "refugee" wait in line for a few hours is dehumanizing, so anyone from anywhere could just enter freely, including the very terrorists that these refugees are supposedly fleeing.

The sheer shamelessness and depravity of it hurts!

It never ends with these people, they will always keep clawing at the definition and expanding it to mean "anyone we like". There can be no bargaining with these lunatics, the only solution is to accept absolutely no migrants for any reason whatsoever.

* = except for whites and/or Christians

Yes, HCE, you're bang on again with your analysis.
This is what is called 'mission creep' and it's absolutely endemic among the progressives, feminists and SJWs and other such radicals.
It's textbook Alinsky, keep pushing the envelope, keep changing the language to whatever end suits your agenda.
One example is the rabid amount of LGBT propaganda foisted onto society in recent times, that was all acheived by this mission creep or 'moving the goalposts' every few years to push for and 'normalise' gay marriage for instance and transgenderism in the minds of the public
This is how the triggering word 'sex' got changed to 'gender'.
How 'homosexual' got changed to 'gay'.
How 'marriage' gets changed from 'man and wife' to 'any kind of union between any number of people of any age and of any sexual inclination whatsoever'
How 'illegal' becomes 'undocumented'.
How 'refugee child' is 'any economic or welfare male migrant from anywhere in Africa or the extended Middle East who isn't clearly over the age of 40 and who wants to come to Europe and bring over his "family" in the years afterwards'
Then you have the media repeat and repeat and repeat said words until they become part of the public conciousness.
Goebbels knew this well, as did Bernays.
Trump is thankfully pushing back against some of this warped ideology and it's one of the initial things about him that impressed me.
He was not going to let anyone, least of all the SJW mafioso, tell him what language he should use.
Whether it's just saying "Merry Christmas!" or calling things by their proper name which is 'illegal immigrants or aliens' and not the limp wristed 'undocumented peoples'.
And I could go on, there's many many more examples of this bastardising of the language.
Sadly, there are precious few people aside from some bastions of red pill awareness like this forum, who notice these insidious changes happening.

Post: #153

^^
I've been to more than a few social service bureaus across my vagrant ramblings in Europe. Often trying to find how to be eligible for jobs, as menial as they would be.
The most common answer I got, and often literally, was "you're too white"(mind you, compared to the average WASP I'm pretty dark and Mediterranean)
Germany was the most fun :
"¿Do you have a male friend you can make a gay partnership in paper with?"

Post: #154

They are looking for a Tunisian migrant - left some blood in the truck. The Polish driver is supposed to have defended himself. Before his murder he remarked that the area of Berlin he drove through was full with Muslims. Yeah - that is Western Europe to you. And frankly there is very little to defend yourself while you are doing your job there. It is not as if you can walk around in full armor and combat ready all the time.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/...as-market/

Most people have zero perception of sensing the danger level of another human being. Humans cannot hide those vibrations - if you do meditation you essentially become more in tune with those senses. Some combat trained men also have managed to acquire those senses due to sheer necessity.

What I do not like about the story is that the driver left his documents in the truck conveniently enough. If he is a patsy then I predict that he will be found dead somewhere. Globalists are not beneath staging that. Jihadis usually don't mind dying for the cause. It would have made more sense for them to get out and start killing as many people as possible. But on the other hand he might have wanted to kill more infidels in the future, so who knows.

It is such a clusterfuck.

Post: #155

The Guardian, Tuesday 20 December 2016 22.58 AEDT

Quote:Don’t let our response to Ankara and Berlin be the one terrorists wish for

Owen Jones

Terrorists commit atrocities and Nigel Farage and others use them to generate fear and hatred of Muslims. This is exactly what fanatics want

The terrorists are winning. Why pretend otherwise? The crimes of Ankara and Berlin – where families sharing festive joy were deliberately targeted and murdered – should rightly shock and appal. Such atrocities are harbingers. Millions have now watched Mevlüt Mert Altıntas, an off-duty police officer who murdered Russia’s ambassador to Turkey, ranting at the camera, a slick and staged political broadcast disseminated to a mass audience. Berlin’s interior senator Andreas Geisel strikes a defiant note. “This is a horrific event,” he says. “But it won’t change the way we live life here in Berlin.” Berlin will indeed prove more resilient to this kind of atrocity than many European cities, but we are deluding ourselves if we pretend terrorism has not already dramatically changed our way of life.

Islamist terrorist fanatics and the west’s ascendant populist right are now working in tandem. They are feeding off each other. They are interdependent. Their fortunes rise with each other. This morning Nigel Farage tweeted: “Terrible news from Berlin but no surprise. Events like these will be the Merkel legacy.” What kind of contemptible individual mixes horror with vindication? From Donald Trump to France’s Marine Le Pen to the Netherlands’ Geert Wilders, the populist right will now be carefully plotting how they will extract political dividends from the horror. Muslims as a whole will fall under ever greater suspicion.

That is, of course, exactly what the fanatics want. Don’t listen to me: heed the words of Nicolas Hénin, a Frenchman who survived being taken hostage by Isis. After the Bataclan atrocity, he wrote that his captors would be scanning social media and celebrating: “‘We are winning’, they’d say. They will be heartened by every sign of overreaction, of division, of fear, of racism, of xenophobia; they will be drawn to any examples of ugliness on social media.” What he wrote is so depressingly, glaringly obvious to anyone who ponders it for more than a moment: and yet still the script written by the fanatics will be followed to the letter.

Yes, lessons need to be learned. Turkey’s besieged opposition HDP party – in a country rapidly degenerating into dictatorship – “harshly condemn” the ambassador’s murder. They also say this murder demonstrates that “Turkey is unfortunately no longer a secure country due to recent domestic and international policies”. Turkey’s regime has backed fundamentalist rebels who hijacked what began as a Syrian cry for freedom. We do not yet know exactly what drove Altıntas to commit his crime: but look at how the western media accept that foreign policy could be a factor, noting as they do that his expressed motive was vengeance for Aleppo and Syria. As journalist Mehdi Hasan puts it: “Western pundits are happy to link terror attacks with Russian foreign policy, but never with western foreign policy.”

Here is the danger of what now beckons. More Islamist terrorist attacks will come. The populist xenophobic right will continue to surge, and it will capitalise on the atrocities. Hatred against Muslims – and demands for collective punishment – will grow. Civil liberties will be rolled back. Those on the left who oppose racism and support compassion for refugees will increasingly be regarded as the enemy within. Democracy will be chipped away. The west will continue its inexorable decline, not because of the threat of “Islamisation”, but partly because of political consequences arising from the fear of Muslims and foreigners. Picture how Donald Trump will respond after the first major terrorist attack. If, in a century’s time, historians ask why the west fell into a spiral of decline, the answer will not be that we were overrun by fanatics, but that we succumbed to their wishes.

It doesn’t have to be like this, no. But unless reason and common sense trump hatred, 2016 will mark the beginning of a new, dark era.

Post: #156

[quote='JWLZG' pid='1468883' dateline='1482328051']
The Guardian, Tuesday 20 December 2016 22.58 AEDT

Quote:Don’t let our response to Ankara and Berlin be the one terrorists wish for

So again we should change, be tolerant, bla-bla but never the Muslims. Fuck that

Post: #157

(12-21-2016 02:49 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

(12-21-2016 02:02 AM)Valentine Wrote:  

(12-21-2016 01:28 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  For the smart Germans, time to start granting them asylum here in the United States.

That would be an interesting chess move. Independently declare it as a nation in the middle of war and offer asylum for third generation or higher Germans. The frothing of liberals would be insane.

Use their tactics against them. Say Germany is suffering too much violence and that the poor German people need refugee status. We, the people of the United States welcome the castaways of the Merkel regime.

Are you sure you want more leftist, SJW's Hillary voters in your country? I for sure do not want them in mine.

Post: #158

(12-21-2016 08:47 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  The Guardian, Tuesday 20 December 2016 22.58 AEDT

Quote:Don’t let our response to Ankara and Berlin be the one terrorists wish for

Owen Jones

Terrorists commit atrocities and Nigel Farage and others use them to generate fear and hatred of Muslims. This is exactly what fanatics want

The terrorists are winning. Why pretend otherwise? The crimes of Ankara and Berlin – where families sharing festive joy were deliberately targeted and murdered – should rightly shock and appal. Such atrocities are harbingers. Millions have now watched Mevlüt Mert Altıntas, an off-duty police officer who murdered Russia’s ambassador to Turkey, ranting at the camera, a slick and staged political broadcast disseminated to a mass audience. Berlin’s interior senator Andreas Geisel strikes a defiant note. “This is a horrific event,” he says. “But it won’t change the way we live life here in Berlin.” Berlin will indeed prove more resilient to this kind of atrocity than many European cities, but we are deluding ourselves if we pretend terrorism has not already dramatically changed our way of life.

Islamist terrorist fanatics and the west’s ascendant populist right are now working in tandem. They are feeding off each other. They are interdependent. Their fortunes rise with each other. This morning Nigel Farage tweeted: “Terrible news from Berlin but no surprise. Events like these will be the Merkel legacy.” What kind of contemptible individual mixes horror with vindication? From Donald Trump to France’s Marine Le Pen to the Netherlands’ Geert Wilders, the populist right will now be carefully plotting how they will extract political dividends from the horror. Muslims as a whole will fall under ever greater suspicion.

That is, of course, exactly what the fanatics want. Don’t listen to me: heed the words of Nicolas Hénin, a Frenchman who survived being taken hostage by Isis. After the Bataclan atrocity, he wrote that his captors would be scanning social media and celebrating: “‘We are winning’, they’d say. They will be heartened by every sign of overreaction, of division, of fear, of racism, of xenophobia; they will be drawn to any examples of ugliness on social media.” What he wrote is so depressingly, glaringly obvious to anyone who ponders it for more than a moment: and yet still the script written by the fanatics will be followed to the letter.

Yes, lessons need to be learned. Turkey’s besieged opposition HDP party – in a country rapidly degenerating into dictatorship – “harshly condemn” the ambassador’s murder. They also say this murder demonstrates that “Turkey is unfortunately no longer a secure country due to recent domestic and international policies”. Turkey’s regime has backed fundamentalist rebels who hijacked what began as a Syrian cry for freedom. We do not yet know exactly what drove Altıntas to commit his crime: but look at how the western media accept that foreign policy could be a factor, noting as they do that his expressed motive was vengeance for Aleppo and Syria. As journalist Mehdi Hasan puts it: “Western pundits are happy to link terror attacks with Russian foreign policy, but never with western foreign policy.”

Here is the danger of what now beckons. More Islamist terrorist attacks will come. The populist xenophobic right will continue to surge, and it will capitalise on the atrocities. Hatred against Muslims – and demands for collective punishment – will grow. Civil liberties will be rolled back. Those on the left who oppose racism and support compassion for refugees will increasingly be regarded as the enemy within. Democracy will be chipped away. The west will continue its inexorable decline, not because of the threat of “Islamisation”, but partly because of political consequences arising from the fear of Muslims and foreigners. Picture how Donald Trump will respond after the first major terrorist attack. If, in a century’s time, historians ask why the west fell into a spiral of decline, the answer will not be that we were overrun by fanatics, but that we succumbed to their wishes.

It doesn’t have to be like this, no. But unless reason and common sense trump hatred, 2016 will mark the beginning of a new, dark era.

He forgot that our civil liberties are as rolled back as foreskin before penetration.

Clearly owen jones never saw a vagina in real life.

Post: #159

Quote:

Please, go to The Muslim World, ask for their peaceful acceptance of your deeply held beliefs, let us know how it goes.

Post: #160

It seems as if the driver was alive during the attack or at least shortly before.

http://www.bild.de/news/inland/polizei/d....bild.html

The Polish driver was likely kidnapped under threat with the weapon, but as he realized what was going to happen with his truck he fought the driver and seems to have cut him. According to some witnesses the truck swerved and less people were killed because of that. Then some shots were fired and that is where the driver was cut and the Polish man was killed.

It seems as if the Jihadi wanted to leave the driver alive and put the blame on a White Christian and Pole as if that is what a husband and father of one before his shift before Christmas was going to do.

I mean how dumb are the Jihadis? How fucking stupid are those morons? Was that because Poland is against Islam and does not want to take any of those suckers?

If it was done by the globalists, then the perp will not get caught alive - no witnesses.

Post: #161

Post: #162

(12-21-2016 11:06 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  ...

I mean how dumb are the Jihadis? How fucking stupid are those morons?

...

Reading the news right now Tunesia sent a replacement identification card for this guy to Germany. Coincidentally just today of course.

Confirms the open secret that some countries, especially in North Africa use the chance to dispose their human waste to Europe and take them only back when they have to.

Oh and it also confirms, AGAIN, that it's not such a big problem to enter the country and run around here without valid papers. Some right wing politicians made the suggestion last year to keep people like this in so called transit zones or even prisons until their status is settled. Nobody liked it because of human rights and shit and it reminded Germans of concentration camps, lol. Now people are dead and lives are destroyed.

Post: #163

(12-21-2016 08:47 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  Owen Jones

Here is the danger of what now beckons. More Islamist terrorist attacks will come. The populist xenophobic right will continue to surge, and it will capitalise on the atrocities. Hatred against Muslims – and demands for collective punishment – will grow. Civil liberties will be rolled back...

That's right. First you champion the social and national degradations that have led to an explosive increase in terrorism and then you complain when there is political backlash and a reversal toward preservation and traditionalism.

Brainwashed idiots like these will spend the remainder of their miserable lives on the wrong side of the issues. Once certain mental patterns have been established they are extremely difficult if not impossible to reverse. The Left has been extremely effective in turning a whole generation of boys into lifelong manginas.

Bottom line is that sucking masculinity and strength out of a society exposes you to attacks and subversion. This is a basic fact of life this generation of coddled and emasculated boys have never had the opportunity to embrace. They either learn it fast or they will find themselves on the fast track to extinction.

Post: #164

Spoke with a German friend yesterday, he thinks there is zero chance Merkel loses. Events like this change nothing in his eyes.

Post: #165

LOL if the driver left his documents in the truck, why did it take 2 days to find them?

Post: #166

(12-21-2016 12:29 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Spoke with a German friend yesterday, he thinks there is zero chance Merkel loses. Events like this change nothing in his eyes.

If true, then prepare for ordinary Germans to endure a violent infant caliphate.

Wait till Erdogan releases his immigrants.

Post: #167

(12-21-2016 12:29 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Spoke with a German friend yesterday, he thinks there is zero chance Merkel loses. Events like this change nothing in his eyes.

It gives me no joy to be proven right every step on the way - I am sure you can empathize Samseau. In particular as I share your view that Germany as we know it will not survive.

Post: #168

Berlin - after Germans got murdered by Islamic terrorist and refugee you have a demonstration against the refugees:





What is interesting is the recording of the counter-demonstration by the left with hearts, chants of "Refugees are welcome here!"

Kill a few, they want more, kill millions, they want more. I guess Germans are committing suicide and will fight anyone who protests against it.

"But at least no one called me Nazi" they will say as they are killed and a Caliphate warrior says: "Die - you Nazi!" - hehe

Post: #169

Agree with Samseau that this will change nothing. Look at France and the attacks of Bataclan and Nice. Nothing changed with respect immigration policy. Some silly laws about not wearing burqinis maybe. Much, much more blood will need to be spilled before Germans shake off their seeming collective guilt.

One thing I am curious about is when these refugee policies were implemented in earnest and why? I mean I don't think even five years ago there were stories about "Refugees welcome." How and when did this all start in Germany? Can a German member chime in (or anyone)?

Post: #170

(12-21-2016 09:37 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

(12-21-2016 02:49 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

(12-21-2016 02:02 AM)Valentine Wrote:  

(12-21-2016 01:28 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  For the smart Germans, time to start granting them asylum here in the United States.

That would be an interesting chess move. Independently declare it as a nation in the middle of war and offer asylum for third generation or higher Germans. The frothing of liberals would be insane.

Use their tactics against them. Say Germany is suffering too much violence and that the poor German people need refugee status. We, the people of the United States welcome the castaways of the Merkel regime.

Are you sure you want more leftist, SJW's Hillary voters in your country? I for sure do not want them in mine.

Don't take the Obama approach of letting everyone in. Vet and invite selectively for those with actual patriotic values. Leave the leftist collective to be turned into kebabs. Their cowardice deserves nothing less.

Post: #171

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The left marches when their bosses tell them to. The power of money and the shadow government is deep. When the NGOs, Antifa and Soros-close organizations tell the youth to go out en masse, then they do so. The greenies for example do not protest when Greenpeace does not tell them to. They only do when someone organizes social media and other campaigns.

In reality the left do not realize that both the corporate media as well as the seeminly anti-corporate NGOs are funded by the same men - they even ignore the corporate and globalist owners in the sitemaps of the NGOs.

Western Europe is doomed.

Post: #172

(12-21-2016 11:06 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The Polish driver was likely kidnapped under threat with the weapon, but as he realized what was going to happen with his truck he fought the driver and seems to have cut him. According to some witnesses the truck swerved and less people were killed because of that. Then some shots were fired and that is where the driver was cut and the Polish man was killed.

It seems as if the Jihadi wanted to leave the driver alive and put the blame on a White Christian and Pole as if that is what a husband and father of one before his shift before Christmas was going to do.

Isn't it more likely that the jihadist killed the driver immediately and then got cut up when he totaled his truck while running over Germans?

Post: #173

(12-21-2016 01:59 PM)Space Cowboy Wrote:  

(12-21-2016 11:06 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The Polish driver was likely kidnapped under threat with the weapon, but as he realized what was going to happen with his truck he fought the driver and seems to have cut him. According to some witnesses the truck swerved and less people were killed because of that. Then some shots were fired and that is where the driver was cut and the Polish man was killed.

It seems as if the Jihadi wanted to leave the driver alive and put the blame on a White Christian and Pole as if that is what a husband and father of one before his shift before Christmas was going to do.

Isn't it more likely that the jihadist killed the driver immediately and then got cut up when he totaled his truck while running over Germans?

No - the cops already confirmed it and the Polish media especially was interested to what happened to the guy. I read some reports there. There were witness accounts that there were shots fired in the cabin during the attack and that the truck swerved strangely off the market - it could have killed many more if it had not done that.

Seems more like the driver was fighting against him and he probably was drugged.

Post: #174

Well there's a place in Valhalla for the Polish driver.

Wonder how difficult he'll find refuge in those "moderate" neighborhoods I hear about.

Post: #175

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/...ember.html

Quote:The Berlin judiciary has disclosed information about their previous investigations against the suspect Anis Amri, who has been sent to investigate. Amri has been arrested in March following an attack on the Christmas market in Berlin, the prosecutor said. In September, however, Amris's surveillance was then terminated.

The investigations had been about information that Amri planned a burglary in order to procure funds for the purchase of automatic weapons - "possibly in order to make a later attack with future winners," added the prosecutor.

Amri was then observed that his communication had also been monitored. However, the "extensive monitoring measures" did not provide any information on the allegations. Therefore, "there was no basis for a further extension of the regulations on surveillance measures", which had been terminated in September, continued in the Justification.

They did observe him before but dropped it. Like the rape murder guy that almost killed a Greece girl, got 10 years and released after 1 to come to Germany.
What did happen since 9/11? What did happen since the France attacks? Some say nothing. Well it did happen all they want. They always talk how they will do something, that we should be more tolerant, not all like that, its not Islam etc.
They do exactly what they want. Bring in death, till the anger boils. Then the manhunt on Muslims starts. Muslims seek shelter in the true Islam and turn violent. Then we have the clash.