@Parzival There is nowhere left to run. Maybe Poland is a good choice, no muslims there.

I am still of the opinion that Europe will win and that it has been set up this way. Once European governments run out of money this will stop funding to Africa, this will create famine and civil war. Middle East and Africa will face the full brunt of Malthusian law. This is what i think is the end goal of globalism. Take out the third world, split developed countries up into pieces. You will have many small nationalist countries but they are too small to ever rise up and change the system. Look at my country for example. Muslims and Africans are just the instruments that will make this happen.

Islamic world is in its final stages if you look at the facts. They have many people but few resources. With oil running out now they are doomed. Birth rates are dropping for them everywhere. Technology and modern life is also affecting them. If they do not conquer Europe now they are doomed.

But make no mistake about it, voting will not save Europe. We will have to fight them and fight them hard. Only thing voting and referendums can do is decide how many we will end up fighting when it all comes down.

In Italy i also had some conversation with Italian women. Most of them are not as brainwashed as maybe some other women. One girl told me she does not go out anymore after 6 out of fear of getting assaulted and enriched, this is the same for many Italian women now.

I'm sure we will strike back as well. The girls I know are also not in favour of the migrants. The few you see in the media are selected. The people that waving for refugees, the sad eyes of children. Its all manipulated media pictures. There are attacks on refugee camps, right wing violence is on the rise, hate speech as well.
It's easy said why don't the people do an outrage. And then? Lose everything? There are reports where men step in to protect girls. Only not beat them up. Thats not a German way to do things.

On one side Hilary and SJWs get blame because they riot, BLM do the same. They don't accept the things, even not the legal ones. When a girl get raped it happens in the night. In a dark alley. Or in large groups. I don't walk on the streets at saturday night to maybe catch a rapefugee. Nor of you guys would do. What's with the sons of Odin? They got all the blame. No most Germans will keep on their live because the rapefugees don't affect them. They don't affect my personal life at all. I said it multipel times, its all mostly in the big cities. When whole districts turn, they turn also because the Germans did move out.
And please its all fun to blame Germans all the time. Don't forget, before the migrant invasion, it was the UK, France, Sweden that hat riots. That had all this stuff. Germany never had this. Those countries are "diverse" as well. Go to the UK there you have whole cities in the hand of Muslims. There you have the police that cover up this stuff as well. So its not a German thing. Look at Italy how it get overrun. Its not a German thing alone.

Those invaders did not even touch the core of the society. Even not a stoic society. Where to all the riots in Greece, France and so on lead too? What is the result? I don't see much outcome. I don't see the point to set the next police station or refugee camp on fire. Or patrol the street. I will prepare and wait. This is the best advice in a society where the whole elite system from media to politics push an agenda. To do the right thing is not always the same like to do the smart thing. Why should I speak against Hitler? Or against Stalin? Or against the Chinese party? When I can instead make still a decent living? I see the things change yes but slow and the things did change already before the invasion of 2015. This is all a long term set up. A counter set up will take its time as well till the water boils.

When you talk about the people of Germany or any other country did vote for this, then take a look at the last elections how many actual did vote for this. Almost 50% in Austria did vote for Hofer. Merkel has to rule in a big coalition because her party could not get enough votes alone. Look at your own countries, are they doing better? I'm quite sure most countries are on the trip of diversity or face issues with migration. Germany just stands more in the spotlight. No one here writes about France or the Uk a lot. Or Italy or Greece. Just a few news stories.

(12-10-2016 04:56 PM)Parzival Wrote:  I'm sure we will strike back as well. The girls I know are also not in favour of the migrants. The few you see in the media are selected. The people that waving for refugees, the sad eyes of children. Its all manipulated media pictures. There are attacks on refugee camps, right wing violence is on the rise, hate speech as well.
It's easy said why don't the people do an outrage. And then? Lose everything? There are reports where men step in to protect girls. Only not beat them up. Thats not a German way to do things.

On one side Hilary and SJWs get blame because they riot, BLM do the same. They don't accept the things, even not the legal ones. When a girl get raped it happens in the night. In a dark alley. Or in large groups. I don't walk on the streets at saturday night to maybe catch a rapefugee. Nor of you guys would do. What's with the sons of Odin? They got all the blame. No most Germans will keep on their live because the rapefugees don't affect them. They don't affect my personal life at all. I said it multipel times, its all mostly in the big cities. When whole districts turn, they turn also because the Germans did move out.
And please its all fun to blame Germans all the time. Don't forget, before the migrant invasion, it was the UK, France, Sweden that hat riots. That had all this stuff. Germany never had this. Those countries are "diverse" as well. Go to the UK there you have whole cities in the hand of Muslims. There you have the police that cover up this stuff as well. So its not a German thing. Look at Italy how it get overrun. Its not a German thing alone.

Those invaders did not even touch the core of the society. Even not a stoic society. Where to all the riots in Greece, France and so on lead too? What is the result? I don't see much outcome. I don't see the point to set the next police station or refugee camp on fire. Or patrol the street. I will prepare and wait. This is the best advice in a society where the whole elite system from media to politics push an agenda. To do the right thing is not always the same like to do the smart thing. Why should I speak against Hitler? Or against Stalin? Or against the Chinese party? When I can instead make still a decent living? I see the things change yes but slow and the things did change already before the invasion of 2015. This is all a long term set up. A counter set up will take its time as well till the water boils.

When you talk about the people of Germany or any other country did vote for this, then take a look at the last elections how many actual did vote for this. Almost 50% in Austria did vote for Hofer. Merkel has to rule in a big coalition because her party could not get enough votes alone. Look at your own countries, are they doing better? I'm quite sure most countries are on the trip of diversity or face issues with migration. Germany just stands more in the spotlight. No one here writes about France or the Uk a lot. Or Italy or Greece. Just a few news stories.

Parzival, it is not only the votes. Believe me when I say that is statistically much more probable to find someone against all of this madness in the UK, France, Greece, Italy and so on, than in Germany or Sweden...

@Parzilval

Ofcourse the media only selects what they want you to see and know. Most women are afraid of social consequenses. This is why they virtue signal even if it is not in their interest. Ofcourse you have some masochists aswell like those English women in Calais. Remember all those German women back in the day were heavily in favor of Hitler. They go with whatever is the dominant narrative. Unfortunately they do not make the best choices.

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Brace yourselves, the 3 million invaders stuck in Turkey are coming.

Turkey Accused of 'Dissolving' Camps As Migrants Flood Greece

Quote: Hundreds of migrants arriving on the Greek island of Lesbos have claimed that they came from a “dissolved” migrant camp in north-west Turkey, and Greek port authorities allege the Turkish coastguard that monitors the Aegean Sea border has “disappeared”.
On Friday 200 migrants, mostly originating from Africa, travelled across the Aegean Sea and landed on the eastern Greek island of Lesbos. In addition, the European Union (EU) border agency Frontex picked up 66 migrants off the coast of Chios. On Saturday morning, a further 330 arrived on the both islands.

Journalists on Lesbos reported that the majority of the arriving migrants had told authorities that they had been interned in closed and controlled camps in north-west Turkey, and that these camps had been “dissolved” in recent days.

It has also been observed by Greek port authorities that the Turkish coastguard, which usually operates in the sea area of the border in the northern Aegean, has “disappeared”.

The Greek Ministry of Migration confirmed the increased number of migrants arriving on the islands adding that they are observing the phenomenon closely.

The newly-landed migrants also claimed that thousands of Africans who arrived on the coasts of Turkey are looking for a way to pass to the Greek islands.

These reports come less than a fortnight after Greek intelligence had disclosed that the Turkish government plans to allow 3,000 migrants to leave their shores every day to head for Greece.

The EU-Turkey migrant deal, where Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan promised to stem the flow of migrants from the Middle East and Africa from his country to Europe in exchange for financial support for migrant care, visa-free travel in the Schengen Zone, and accelerated EU membership, is on the verge of collapse following allegations by the Islamist president that the EU has not kept up with its end of the bargain.

European leaders deny Erdoğan’s allegations, but many have voiced their concern over the Near Eastern nation’s accession to the bloc due to Turkey’s human rights abuses and the recent crackdown on the media and mass arrests following the failed coup in July.

The total number of migrants accommodated on Lesbos and Chios has now reached 11,112, and throughout Greece there are reportedly 62,380 migrants.

According to an International Organization for Migration (IOM) report released on Tuesday, over 351,000 migrants crossed into Greece and Italy since the beginning of 2016 compared to 883,393 this time in 2015. But if Turkey has begun to roll back its border security, Greece could see those figures rise again to the level at the height of the migrant crisis.

The EU announced on Thursday that member countries could begin returning migrants to Greece in March 2017, in an effort to reinstate the bloc’s Dublin asylum rules whereby migrants must have their asylum request processed in the country in which they first land.

In a letter to the EU interior ministers and the EU Commission on Friday, Greek Migration Minister Yiannis Mouzalas pleaded with the supranational bloc to support them in reducing the population of overcrowded migrant camps on the Aegean islands.

I moved to Poland due to internal guidance (I am sort of a Godseeker and mystic at heart). It was the right choice, though not a mental one.

All my instincts scream to move to Asia within the next 2 decades.

It will take time for the situation to deteriorate.

And Parzival is right - Sweden, UK, France, Italy even will be destroyed faster than Germany. The Muslim population is already bigger there and rising fast, causing already massive problems and taking over entire streets. Sure - Germany is getting the brunt of the newcomers, but even they will be absorbed into certain areas or stuck in refugee centers for years.

The reason why so many people still vote for the establishment parties who will continue to blast them in the ass is that their lives are not affected by diversity.

No one lives in parts of towns in the UK where diversity has overtaken those places:

You will probably still be able to have a decent life in the UK in the city of London or in a palatial estate on the countryside. Sure - you may have to hire armed guards like in South America, but you will be doing fine.

Why is Le Pen and her party not ruling supreme even after massive terrorist attacks by Islamists? Because terror has nothing to do with Islam of course...

(12-10-2016 04:08 PM)Parzival Wrote:  Even Trump is from German origin. I left Germany as well. My heart bleeds but why should I go down with the madness? Should I apply for a working visa in the US? Many of my friends have no kids even that they are married. And I will mostly never take a German girl because its not worth it.
On the other hand in the 30 years war only 1/3 of Germans did survive. So there will be always some genetical stock left.

Go there as a tourist, find yourself a cute American girl and get married to her. Quickest way and it's legal. OR do the work visa thing - yes. But it'll be harder now with Trump in place. I voted for him knowing that it would things more difficult for all foreigners, even Europeans. It was the only possible choice though.

But look, if you have skills and knowledge, if you work hard and are willing to make sacrifices, then there is a life for you in the U.S. Do it the legal way, hire yourself an experienced lawyer and you'll have your green card in a few years. You need another passport mate - Germany may not even exist anymore a decade from now.

(12-10-2016 07:26 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

(12-10-2016 04:08 PM)Parzival Wrote:  Even Trump is from German origin. I left Germany as well. My heart bleeds but why should I go down with the madness? Should I apply for a working visa in the US? Many of my friends have no kids even that they are married. And I will mostly never take a German girl because its not worth it.
On the other hand in the 30 years war only 1/3 of Germans did survive. So there will be always some genetical stock left.

Go there as a tourist, find yourself a cute American girl and get married to her. Quickest way and it's legal. OR do the work visa thing - yes. But it'll be harder now with Trump in place. I voted for him knowing that it would things more difficult for all foreigners, even Europeans. It was the only possible choice though.

But look, if you have skills and knowledge, if you work hard and are willing to make sacrifices, then there is a life for you in the U.S. Do it the legal way, hire yourself an experienced lawyer and you'll have your green card in a few years. You need another passport mate - Germany may not even exist anymore a decade from now.

Trump will possibly shut down immigration for a small time, but when it reopens it will favor Europeans. It will favor talented, high IQ types. Trump will do the quality immigration, not the quantity type. With Europe imploding it will be a great way to bolster the ranks of conservative Whites.

(12-10-2016 02:46 PM)Parzival Wrote:  Lucky for you Germany will be soon even more diverse. Whole districts full with Kebab shops. and Turkish weeding stores. There you will get all the help you need. When you don't like Germany, stay simple out.

No one has a problem with migrants that work. Just don't sell it as high skilled ones when they do basic jobs. Anyway its of course fault of the German politics to let this happen. Its a mental counter reaction to the experience of Hitler. That's why they get a free pass. If politics would have punish anti social behaviour direct from the start, there would be no AfD and no tension at all. For me this all is a combination of several things. First, mental illness that glorify every foreign aspect, the more strange the better. Still I wonder why mostly Muslims get that favour. Second, incompetence. Police and courts are hold down with less then need manpower so that they can't work and operate smooth. Third, police and justice system are hold back because of point first. So those people get a more free pass. Fourth, if feels like this just have to be by intention. It's all so out of common sense that it has to be that they want the radicalisation of society.
The fish starts to smell from the head.

Population of Turks in Germany have been roughly the same in the last 30 years ratio wise. And yes we did enrich Germany with our food. Before our arrival there were no proper places to eat in Germany. Kebab became the most popular dish with our arrival. Our factory helpers helped Germany achieve that industrial boom. We did contribute to Germany positively. The best player on Germanys football team is Turkish.

Don't blame the downfall of Europe on Turks, its not our fault. Greeks lived under our rule for 500 years, did we destroy their culture? Did we force them to assimilate?

Turks in Germany are better integrated compared to hispanics in the US even though have a different religion .

Might I add that the majority of the latest generation of Turks in Germany are secular.

(12-10-2016 09:33 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  Don't blame the downfall of Europe on Turks, its not our fault. Greeks lived under our rule for 500 years, did we destroy their culture?

Yes you guys genocided them. This is but a small sample:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_fire_of_Smyrna

Quote:Did we force them to assimilate?

Nope, just taxed them with jizya, raped their women, and stole boys to become Janissaries.

Quote:Turks in Germany are better integrated compared to hispanics in the US even though have a different religion .

Might I add that the majority of the latest generation of Turks in Germany are secular.

Many turks today are a lot better than they were in the past, no doubt about it. But it seems Islam is taking over your country once again. The secular turks are being pushed out and soon you will feel like a stranger in your own country with the rate of Islamization in Turkey.

I used to play Starcraft and during multiplayer matches I used to take fast, expendable units and harry enemy forces, luring them into a different enemy's base. After that, mopping up was a cinch.

Erdogan shifting to Putin after the supposed coup attempt and now talk of invader surges after Turkish refugee camps have been dissolved?

This whole thing is starting to feel very familiar.

(12-10-2016 10:26 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Many turks today are a lot better than they were in the past, no doubt about it. But it seems Islam is taking over your country once again. The secular turks are being pushed out and soon you will feel like a stranger in your own country with the rate of Islamization in Turkey.

We enjoyed the most powerful years under the rule of the caliphate. Turkey is a mess compared to what Ottoman was under islamic rule. Power wise we probably are like 95% weaker compared to our old empire. I'd choose a huge powerful islamic empire over a weak secular state any time.

The huns collapsed we came back, the selchuks collapsed we came back back. Turks have formed over 16 empires in the last 2000 years. We came back stronger every time with the exception being republic of Turkey. We are far away from our glory days.

There's a good saying in Turkey, it only takes 5 of us to form a government : )

You can go be secular all you want in Europe, but we're aware that if a country loses its religion it will lose its culture and loss of culture will lead to cultural degeneracy . Kind of like what is happening in Europe, you are being taken over by SJWS, because the majority of your population is Atheist.

The same was about to happen to us, but we are a different story. We have formed over 16 states, our state survival instinct kicked in and we were blessed with a leader like Erdogan. Same instinct kicked in USA too, they got Trump.

(12-10-2016 10:30 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I used to play Starcraft and during multiplayer matches I used to take fast, expendable units and harry enemy forces, luring them into a different enemy's base. After that, mopping up was a cinch.

Erdogan shifting to Putin after the supposed coup attempt and now talk of invader surges after Turkish refugee camps have been dissolved?

This whole thing is starting to feel very familiar.

Erdogan is just making a situational alliance with Putin against globalists, thats it. Now we made an agreement with Russia to ditch the US dollar, the trade between two countries will be conducted with local currencies. We made the same deal with China.

PS: Greece definitely deserved those 300 migrants after granting political asylum to 3 soldiers who were involved in the coup. I hope they are generous with those 300 african migrants as well and will grant them asylum : ) just like how they granted the traitors.

For every 1 soldier they grant asylum we'll probably let in 100 migrants in their way.

If Europe wants to stop the flow of Refugees it should stop granting political asylum to everyone who is enemy of Turkey. This includes FETO and Kurdish seperatists. Countries like Belgium are allowing PKK supporters to hold demonstrations. PKK is classified as a terrorist organization by the EU.

Because of the ingrained SJW ideology they are opening their arms to all the traitors and losers. This will not bode well for them.

Greeks did not lose their culture under the rule of Ottomans, but they just might if the migrant flow continues.

EU is doing everything in its hands to piss us off.

They appointed this lady as rapporteur for the accession talks.

Her name is Kati Piri She is very biased against us. If you read her twitter you'll see she is a classical feminist shillary supporter. She writes very biased reports against Turkey and keeps meeting with PKK supporters.

The "Turks" didn't build the Ottoman Empire; they founded it sure, but it was the Islamsized sons of Balkan Christians (Janissaries) that turned it into a super power. Virtually every grand vizier of any worth of the Ottoman Empire was ethnically Serbian, Greek, Bosnian, Croatian etc and the House of Osman was completely European by blood. In fact, it was when the Ottomans became more discriminatory against Christians and more fundamentalist in their Islam after the Siege of Vienna that their Empire went from being one of the strongest on the world to the "sick man of Europe".

(12-10-2016 04:40 PM)leanmeansexmachine Wrote:  With oil running out now they are doomed.

Can't agree with that. The more forward-sighted oil-rich countries are setting up science parks and poaching the west's best scientists. Who wouldn't want to go work where there's better budgets and less red tape?

(12-10-2016 11:43 PM)lowhead360 Wrote:  The "Turks" didn't build the Ottoman Empire; they founded it sure, but it was the Islamsized sons of Balkan Christians (Janissaries) that turned it into a super power. Virtually every grand vizier of any worth of the Ottoman Empire was ethnically Serbian, Greek, Bosnian, Croatian etc and the House of Osman was completely European by blood. In fact, it was when the Ottomans became more discriminatory against Christians and more fundamentalist in their Islam after the Siege of Vienna that their Empire went from being one of the strongest on the world to the "sick man of Europe".

Our founding fathers were smart enough to figure out that Europeans had good genes that's why nearly all our consorts were European. No empire lives forever, 500 years is a huge accomplishment. Everything will collapse one day anyway.

I don't agree with you that we ill treated minorities . Even until 1800's a lot of our ambassadors were of greek descent. What we did is we started to heavily tax them, because the empire was managed bad and we ran into budget deficits.

(12-10-2016 11:52 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  

(12-10-2016 11:43 PM)lowhead360 Wrote:  The "Turks" didn't build the Ottoman Empire; they founded it sure, but it was the Islamsized sons of Balkan Christians (Janissaries) that turned it into a super power. Virtually every grand vizier of any worth of the Ottoman Empire was ethnically Serbian, Greek, Bosnian, Croatian etc and the House of Osman was completely European by blood. In fact, it was when the Ottomans became more discriminatory against Christians and more fundamentalist in their Islam after the Siege of Vienna that their Empire went from being one of the strongest on the world to the "sick man of Europe".

Our founding fathers were smart enough to figure out that Europeans had good genes that's why nearly all our consorts were European. No empire lives forever, 500 years is a huge accomplishment. Everything will collapse one day anyway.

I don't agree with you that we ill treated minorities . Even until 1800's a lot of our ambassadors were of greek descent. What we did is we started to heavily tax them, because the empire was managed bad and we ran into budget deficits.

There's a place about 30 kilometers from my birthplace in Serbia called skull tower, which is literally a castle tower the Turks put up which is made with the cemented skulls of hundreds of dead Serbs. You didn't mistreat minorities?

Listen, I'm not gonna guilt you on what your ancestors did because that's idiotic. But if you're going to talk about history, you can't just make shit up.

I don't even have to get into the "blood tax", dhimmitude, the jizya, or the Armenian Genocide to show the utter barbarism of the Ottomans. To add to that, at least when the West decided to ruthlessly colonize an area they built a railroad or two, the Balkans was left with nothing.

That's basically how every single empire was run in those days. You defer or you die. Keeping an empire which has ground on 3 continents isn't a walk in the park. Regarding west building infrastructure in places they conquer, I don't see any infrastructure in Africa. They must have forgotten them

We can see how India faired out, dubbed as the crown of the jewel once it's in a sorry state of mess.

You can't blame all your fuck ups on the Ottomans. If Yugoslavia didn't break up it would be a regional power and would challange the dominance of the EU Look at what happened, it got split into 6 weakling states. They're trying to make another Yugoslavia out of Turkey, trying to divide it.

(12-11-2016 12:39 AM)LikeABaller Wrote:  That's basically how every single empire was run in those days. You defer or you die. Keeping an empire which has ground on 3 continents isn't a walk in the park. Regarding west building infrastructure in places they conquer, I don't see any infrastructure in Africa. They must have forgotten them

We can see how India faired out, dubbed as the crown of the jewel once it's in a sorry state of mess.

You can't blame all your fuck ups on the Ottomans. If Yugoslavia didn't break up it would be a regional power and would challange the dominance of the EU Look at what happened, it got split into 6 weakling states. They're trying to make another Yugoslavia out of Turkey, trying to divide it.

When exactly was it that I blamed the Ottomans for anything?

We were having a historical discussion. I didn't blame anyone for anything, I just pointed out that the Ottomans were barbarians, an indisputable fact; I didn't blame the Ottomans for the current situation at all.

(12-11-2016 12:39 AM)LikeABaller Wrote:  That's basically how every single empire was run in those days. You defer or you die. Keeping an empire which has ground on 3 continents isn't a walk in the park. Regarding west building infrastructure in places they conquer, I don't see any infrastructure in Africa. They must have forgotten them

Wrong. Can't even be bothered explaining the obvious.

Quote:We can see how India faired out, dubbed as the crown of the jewel once it's in a sorry state of mess.

A rising superpower. More or less % are peasants now?

(12-11-2016 12:39 AM)LikeABaller Wrote:  That's basically how every single empire was run in those days. You defer or you die. Keeping an empire which has ground on 3 continents isn't a walk in the park. Regarding west building infrastructure in places they conquer, I don't see any infrastructure in Africa. They must have forgotten them

We can see how India faired out, dubbed as the crown of the jewel once it's in a sorry state of mess.

You can't blame all your fuck ups on the Ottomans. If Yugoslavia didn't break up it would be a regional power and would challange the dominance of the EU Look at what happened, it got split into 6 weakling states. They're trying to make another Yugoslavia out of Turkey, trying to divide it.

Great posts you have made in this page.

It's good to have your perspective around here. A breath of fresh air against the circle jerking on how Europeans are so brainwashed. Give us your insider thoughts.
Keep posting. +1

(12-10-2016 10:49 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  We enjoyed the most powerful years under the rule of the caliphate. Turkey is a mess compared to what Ottoman was under islamic rule. Power wise we probably are like 95% weaker compared to our old empire. I'd choose a huge powerful islamic empire over a weak secular state any time.
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You can go be secular all you want in Europe, but we're aware that if a country loses its religion it will lose its culture and loss of culture will lead to cultural degeneracy . Kind of like what is happening in Europe, you are being taken over by SJWS, because the majority of your population is Atheist.
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Most of the empires were created tribally - religion is at best a unifying force like in the case of the Ottomans.

Powerwise the Ottomans remained in the Middle Ages right until the West came to them with tanks, submarines and all the goodies of modernity.

You can be proud what the Ottomans had achieving enslaving Europeans, using European genes, unifying different tribes under the banner of Islam, fucking your way all through Europe and even almost conquering the world - it was pretty close in Vienna. If the Ottomans had succeeded, then we would be in the Middle Ages now and there would be no modern civilization.

That is what Attaturk understood - what made the Ottoman empire great was also what was holding it back. That is why he moved hard against Islam. Without him the modern Turkey would not even have made any progress and would be worse off than many other states.

Keep history in the past - the Turks of today are still second class citizens in Germany and this is not due to discrimination. Yeah - I met a few secular highly intelligent Turks in Austria and Germany, but their numbers in the universities and in better jobs are small.

And the 3rd generation is now worse off than their first two.

Here Akif Pirinçci - a high-IQ high-performing Turk born in Germany who became a bestseller author and multimillionaire. He criticizes Islam and the backwardsness of Turks to the utmost.

http://www.bild.de/news/inland/islam/isl....bild.html

Quote:"Islam belongs to us like the Reeperbahn to Mecca"

Quote:BamS: In your book, you are raging against non-adaptive immigrants. Can only one migrant fight against immigrants?

Pirinçci: No. Besides, I'm a German. But most of the people in this country are now so intimidated by Nazi schools of tolerant politicians and media that they no longer dare to express the basic truths of a healthy human understanding.
BamS: What do you mean by that?
Pirinçci: The Germans are afraid. This is the only reason why our Muslim fellow citizens are allowed to go through everything: their disguised women, including four-year-olds, their foul behavior, their arrogance and their constant hand-holding at Papa Social State. Everyone is welcome in this country, who has what is on the chest and hard-working. Others do not!
Akif Pirinçci came to Ulmen in the Eifel (Rhineland-Palatinate) as a nine-year-old with his three-year-old sister and his parents from Istanbul. The most important sentence of his parents coined him: "Nothing comes from nothing." Both had little time to educate him because they worked hard. The father as a Brummifahrer, the mother at the band in a canning factory. Today they spend their evening in Izmir.
Reading sample: Germany by senses
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Photo: PR
BamS: Do you really believe it, or do you just want to provoke it to sell your book better?
Pirinçci: Ums money is not about me. I have enough of that. No, I am convinced that the integration efforts that have been so well-intentioned are completely out of control. The majority of the Muslims, who are peace-loving, decent, and Allah are a good man among us, but of those who act as religious fission mushrooms.
BamS: For a better coexistence and understanding, the German Islam Conference is currently being promoted. That is reasonable!

Pirinçci: nonsense that you should completely abolish. We are a disreligionized country. Islam has long since become a kind of folklore. He who believes may believe but do not exaggerate it. This buzziness of politics before Islam assumes absurd features.
BamS: What is so bad about a tolerant, cosmopolitan country?
Pirinçci: It's not that a minority exerts so much power over the majority of the population. Why does pigs' decoration disappear from the butcher's window? Why are swimming pools darkened for Muslim women to bathe? Why are children sent to Koran schools to learn Arabic texts that they do not understand? We have long since overcome this in the Middle Ages. This is human and, above all, contempt for women.
BamS: Do you think many German Turks, Muslims and immigrants think like you?
Pirinçci: One-third of those living in Turkey people think like me. There are a lot of atheists in Turkey. The Turks, who live here, are almost all from Anatolia, from backward regions. The problem is: German politicians think that all Turks are like that. They still crawl into their comic religion, but even Turkey is no longer so. If you walk through Istanbul, you can see fewer headscarves than in Berlin. This can not be normal: Islam belongs to Germany like the Reeperbahn to Mecca!
BamS: How does the third generation differ from the first generation of guest workers?
Pirinçci: The biggest difference is that the young people are all born here. They have not even seen their so-called homeland. And if they stick to traditions, this is a kind of costume-turkish. This "turkish" is a kind of defiance. One must not be so completely German. But we live in Germany, why do you have to stress that you are Turk? Today immigration children do not have to adjust, so they often do not speak German properly. I was then the only Turk among 35 children in elementary school. After three months, I could already express myself, after six months in full sentences. How Integration Works!
BamS: Is not multiculturalism an enrichment for Germany?
Pirinçci: This whole multiculturalism is yet mutated into a deliberately romanticized care industry, devouring the billions of tax dollars. And these well-being people put their discriminatory deliberate deliberately: anyone who does not let foreigners cross the border, they do not have a flat screen TV, is alien enemy or even Nazi. So morally pressurized, the state jumps like a trained monkey. Abermilliards of euro go for language courses of illiterates. Pathologically violent foreigners, especially young, are cared for by social workers and carers around the clock. But immigration and the welfare state at the same time can not work. Either one creates one or the other. Otherwise, the Germans will soon be working only for immigration.
BamS: Are not you afraid to be stamped as a right-wing populist or even a Nazi?
Pirinçci: I do not care if they call me a Nazi. This word is now only a sleeve. A silly word. It was used too often for every little thing in Germany. It has worn out.
BamS: Can you write such a Wutschrift only if you really love Germany?
Pirinçci: I love Germany. The women, Christmas, the woods. That is why I am so annoyed when some so-called immigrants, together with German good people, want to make this beautiful country worse.

I copied part of the interview, because it is good.

There is little more to be added there aside from one of the countless reports:

Here is how school looks like for the few native Germans who are unable to move out of Turk-dominated areas.




Here another report - everyone having problems with them except for one German teenage girl who converted to Islam for her Turkish boyfriend - great success story.

By the way - the current generation 3rd or 4th - of Turks is getting radicalized to the utmost. You might see a resurgance of the Caliphate again, but then this will end in complete destruction and elimination of most.

Also the cultures of the West are destroyed by globalist propaganda - the same propaganda that is certainly supporting and financing the radicalization of Islam and Turkey. So who is falling into whose trap? It is possible that the globalists will use the West and China to one day wipe out Islam completely.

There is no alternative to secularization - do it similarly to the Chinese or Japanese - keep your culture, but copy all the good stuff - and no - Islam is not the good stuff.

By the way - I wish only good to the Turks, they are warm, hospitable, passionate people. I prefer them to go forward into the future in modernity and not be obliterated in the fiery ball of radicalization, which only sets them up for a war by the globalists. And modernity is not SJW-leftism. The Japanese also have barely a religious background, but can keep their culture intact.

(12-10-2016 09:33 PM)LikeABaller Wrote:  Our factory helpers helped Germany achieve that industrial boom. We did contribute to Germany positively.

This is a modern legend. Its sometimes spins that way that Turks re-build Germany after the war. German economy was already running good. Turks came to Germany because the USA demand it because of their NATO politics.

The first generation of turks was secular, the 2nd and mostly the 3rd did turn into criminals. Not all of them but there are issues with them. Still I prefer them over Arab Muslims. The nationalistic pride of Turks is a hidden bomb in the German society. Also the districts with mainly turks are among the lost districts. It seem like Germany got the lower members of Turkey. Turks can be great people but also among the worst.