Post: #126

(11-29-2016 09:45 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  Not only that, imagine what happens when you go to the dark web, accessing website like Hidden Wiki using Tor browser.

Bro what I described is probably one of the best ways to find the dark web. Those sites I found could not be found via Google.

Post: #127

Scott Adams weighs in. I agree with him, that I think this is a huge case of confirmation bias...

Quote:I want to be totally clear here that I’m not saying Pizzagate is false. I see the mountain of evidence too. And collectively it feels totally persuasive to me. It might even be true. I’m not debating the underlying truth of it. That part I don’t know. My point is that what you see as a mountain of evidence that can’t be wrong, I see as something that is far more likely to be confirmation bias. If I had to put a number on it, I’d say perhaps a 20-1 odds the Pizzagate story is false.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/15382153805...-pizzagate

Post: #128

Adams' opinion more or less matches mine.

I'm still not sure if it was deliberately subverted, or if it's just idiots.
But it's going nowhere now.

Post: #129

(11-29-2016 09:57 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 09:45 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  Not only that, imagine what happens when you go to the dark web, accessing website like Hidden Wiki using Tor browser.

Bro what I described is probably one of the best ways to find the dark web. Those sites I found could not be found via Google.

So you used Tor too? Even though I mentioned Hidden Wiki, it still has very interesting information there not related to disgusting things. Forums with interesting information, Wikileaks documents, etc.

Post: #130

Reminder.

Rothschild party 1972:







They're just having fun guys.

Post: #131

Tor is comprimised, guys. Don't assume it'll save you from anything if you're doing anything really dangerous. If you just browsing random wiki pages it's probably no concern at all.

And the Rothschilds are a bunch of weirdos, but tying them into Pizzagate is a mistake.

Post: #132

(11-29-2016 02:24 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  Tor is comprimised, guys. Don't assume it'll save you from anything if you're doing anything really dangerous. If you just browsing random wiki pages it's probably no concern at all.

And the Rothschilds are a bunch of weirdos, but tying them into Pizzagate is a mistake.

Not tying them into anything, I just think their kind of fun is creepy (legit use of the word). Sort of like how that Comet Pizza guy has some weird sense of humor on his Instagram.

Post: #133

(11-29-2016 12:24 PM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 09:57 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 09:45 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  Not only that, imagine what happens when you go to the dark web, accessing website like Hidden Wiki using Tor browser.

Bro what I described is probably one of the best ways to find the dark web. Those sites I found could not be found via Google.

So you used Tor too? Even though I mentioned Hidden Wiki, it still has very interesting information there not related to disgusting things. Forums with interesting information, Wikileaks documents, etc.

I don't use Tor. I don't plan on doing anything illegal. Looking for pedo networks so you can tip it to the FBI is not illegal. It's a good samaritan act. However, I do have Strong VPN which is really good security for the most part.

Post: #134

Years ago when I was active on the chans I also had a brief look round the dark web with Tor to see what the fuss was about. Wasn't trying to do anything illegal. Most of it was drugs and firearms trade but there was much worse than that. What I found was so sickening that I deleted everything and never went back.

There is some seriously sick shit going on out there and until now I just thought it was creeps hiding in basements all over the world. I think the truth is they are hiding in plain site and occupy positions of power in order to keep themselves safe.

Edit: There is a rumor around that Tor has been compromised, which I don't doubt. So you would be an idiot to try and go digging now given the heat on this situation.

Post: #135

Its simply not healthy and human to browse this shit. You know that you will find something that will probably be permanently inscribed into your mind, like Sooth probably experienced.

Regarding Rothchilds, yes they are weirdoes and these parties show their obsession with implementing some pagan elements into their parties. But that is pretty much harmless.
Bohemian Grove is same thing, bunch of drunkards and fags doing each other, combined with some talks what will they do after they come from vacation. Nixon even said that this is the most "faggy thing imagined".

Post: #136

(11-29-2016 02:55 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I don't use Tor. I don't plan on doing anything illegal. Looking for pedo networks so you can tip it to the FBI is not illegal. It's a good samaritan act. However, I do have Strong VPN which is really good security for the most part.

PLEASE don't think a VPN makes you anonymous.

A ton of these sites are honeypots, and it's extremely simple to verify your identity if the government simply asks your VPN provider who was accessing these websites or by using the myriad of different NSA identification methods.

On Tor: it is compromised, but the anonymity of VPNs are far lower generally. It's more accurate to say it's the least compromised.

Post: #137

Regarding it's validity, I have known that something like that is going on but I don'tknow exactly what.

I have three main reasons for believing it is so:

1) According to someone I met that helps run a rescue agency, the largest customers in Thailand for underaged children are Japanese, Australian, and US elites.

2) It's plausible because a large pedophile ring was found in the UK.

3) Several high level US elites have already been caught with a penchant for children. The logistics of these operations mean they weren't doing this alone, yet they were the only ones prosecuted.



And this one's a bit more dubious, but.....

4) They reaction to this isn't consistent with something that's complete bullshit. If it was they'd be drawing publicity to the story in order to use it as an example of fake news(and we know via Wikileaks that promoting bullshit stores to discredit conservatives is a tactic they use). The mass censorship and dropping any reference to Pizzagate down the memory hole is more consistent with damage control for something that's real.

Post: #138

After listening to the reading of Donald's chapter on revenge (H/T to the Trump thread) I have no doubt Podesta, if guilty, will get the chair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd0AdArPjqU

Post: #139

(11-29-2016 08:46 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 03:26 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  I hate to say this but you guys lost me at Alex Jones. $100 bucks that nothing happens in a year from now.

Maybe, but there can be no doubt there are huge pedo networks out there. I've seen them. If you crawl around on the chans enough you can see where the pedo's hang and every now and then an anon will drop a link, which leads to much bigger underground sites full of the most fucked up child pron you can imagine.

I've seen these sites myself, and reported them to the FBI. It's a fucked up world gentlemen, do not delude yourselves. These Cheese Pizza faggots are most likely part of it, even if they are really good at hiding it.

That's kind of my perspective too. So far I have not seen anything about Comet Pizza that couldn't theoretically be explained by some really fucking weird tastes. And I've seen no evidence that points directly to any actual criminal activity, as such I think it's dangerous and reckless to speculate too much about it.

But I won't lie some of it made my skin crawl and the worst would not surprise me in the least.

Post: #140

(11-29-2016 08:46 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 03:26 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  I hate to say this but you guys lost me at Alex Jones. $100 bucks that nothing happens in a year from now.

Maybe, but there can be no doubt there are huge pedo networks out there. I've seen them. If you crawl around on the chans enough you can see where the pedo's hang and every now and then an anon will drop a link, which leads to much bigger underground sites full of the most fucked up child pron you can imagine.

I've seen these sites myself, and reported them to the FBI. It's a fucked up world gentlemen, do not delude yourselves. These Cheese Pizza faggots are most likely part of it, even if they are really good at hiding it.

I'm not denying that there are pedo networks out there, they are many operating all around the state, country, and world. I'm just saying that the democrat ring won't fall. As mentioned earlier, they probably have some sort of insurance against the FBI/DOJ. That's the sad part, but it's reality. My guess is that they only appoint fuckers they have dirt on because they know the appointee will be a yes man.

Tor was developed by the Navy. The Navy is in cahoots with the NSA. NSA spies on us....so we all know where this goes.

Post: #141

(11-29-2016 09:57 AM)Horus Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 08:46 AM)Samseau Wrote:  I've seen these sites myself, and reported them to the FBI.

How did you end up at these sites? Did you stumble upon them or were you investigating for the FBI?

It's not a hard thing to do if you've spent some time on the dregs of the Internet. The only issue being is that most of the dark web has been compromised for years even when Tor was considered secure.

Think about it if some kiddies on an edgy website found it and can take part in it if they wished what aren't the odds that governmental agencies have long been honeypotting on there.

The dark web in a nutshell is essentially that sites pop up off the grid for those in the know then are compromised fairly quickly then a new one pops up. If you've been involved and a regular customer of certain things you'll be notified when the new site that isn't compromised is up and stay on until it is. Rinse and repeat.

It's no different than running tunnels and smuggling in real life just done over the Internet. You figure out when the authorities know when someone involved is nabbed.

Source: A few friends of mine get drugs and firearms over the Internet and have been for years.

Post: #142

Here's a screencap of a plan that was going to be used to discredit wikileaks. It's a little different, but note the similarity to what I've been describing, the use of fake information to destroy credibility. Fake evidence is submitted by a hostile party, and then it's called out as as fake in an attempt to discredit the movement.




To use an example from 9/11:
9/11 Truther: "Fire can't melt steel!"
9/11 Official Story Defender: Here's a video of fire melting steel. That's idiotic.
Public: 9/11 truthers are idiots. The official story must be correct.

(Note that I'm not saying 9/11 truthers were planted by the government. It's just a simple example to demonstrate the point.)

The only way to fight this is to be absolutely ruthless with people who are providing evidence for #Pizzagate. If someone says something that's too much of a stretch, be it that Seth Rich's murder was a part of this, or that Breitbart was killed because he knew about this (The context of his "sex slave" comments is obvious from the full chain of tweets.) CALL THEM OUT.

I still think it's too late, but if anybody is still seriously interested in pursuing this, the first enemies you'll have to face will be on your own side.

Post: #143

(11-30-2016 12:49 AM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  Here's a screencap of a plan that was going to be used to discredit wikileaks. It's a little different, but note the similarity to what I've been describing, the use of fake information to destroy credibility. Fake evidence is submitted by a hostile party, and then it's called out as as fake in an attempt to discredit the movement.




To use an example from 9/11:
9/11 Truther: "Fire can't melt steel!"
9/11 Official Story Defender: Here's a video of fire melting steel. That's idiotic.
Public: 9/11 truthers are idiots. The official story must be correct.

(Note that I'm not saying 9/11 truthers were planted by the government. It's just a simple example to demonstrate the point.)

The only way to fight this is to be absolutely ruthless with people who are providing evidence for #Pizzagate. If someone says something that's too much of a stretch, be it that Seth Rich's murder was a part of this, or that Breitbart was killed because he knew about this (The context of his "sex slave" comments is obvious from the full chain of tweets.) CALL THEM OUT.

I still think it's too late, but if anybody is still seriously interested in pursuing this, the first enemies you'll have to face will be on your own side.

I've seen several of these types of shills, they're on ROK too.

One of the most common is "the retard", someone who is so stupid to consistently make the wrong connections. They'll grab on to something inconsequential and pretend it to be the important takeaway. They're like the kind of person who will come up with retarded ideas about a movie they just watched. Such stupid people are not usually found on sites like ROK or Reddit subs with those topics.

Another common shill is a false agent. On ROK those are typically fake white supremacists, who spout some truths and then mix in blatant ridiculous falsehoods.

That's why if you want to keep a high level of trust, you must simply ban all seemingly stupid or low IQ posters, because it is impossible to discern between well meaning, but stupid poster or a shill.

Post: #144

I'm changing my opinion on this one.

Don't count it out entirely. A lot of conspiracy theory Youtubers have picked this up and are running with it.

Post: #145

(11-30-2016 09:34 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  I'm changing my opinion on this one.

Don't count it out entirely. A lot of conspiracy theory Youtubers have picked this up and are running with it.

Have conspiracy theory Youtubers ever successfully found any conspiracies?

Post: #146

(11-30-2016 09:54 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 09:34 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  I'm changing my opinion on this one.

Don't count it out entirely. A lot of conspiracy theory Youtubers have picked this up and are running with it.

Have conspiracy theory Youtubers ever successfully found any conspiracies?

Lock Ness Monster, Bigfoot, Nibiru, Flat Earth, Moon Landing, etc.

Pretty solid track record if you ask me.

I fully believe a ton of fucked up pedophile rings exist. But I'm not going to completely buy into Pizzagate until some legitimate evidence is presented and the proper authorities open up an investigation.

I think individuals who hold high ranking positions in the FBI have better intel than internet autists.

And I sincerely hope anyone who could even fathom sexually abusing a child spends the rest of their life rotting in a prison cell.

Post: #147

The thought of a sexually abused child makes me wish God exists to have mercy on the child and punish the abuser.

Post: #148

(11-30-2016 10:11 PM)wi30 Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 09:54 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 09:34 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  I'm changing my opinion on this one.

Don't count it out entirely. A lot of conspiracy theory Youtubers have picked this up and are running with it.

Have conspiracy theory Youtubers ever successfully found any conspiracies?

Lock Ness Monster, Bigfoot, Nibiru, Flat Earth, Moon Landing, etc.

Pretty solid track record if you ask me.

I fully believe a ton of fucked up pedophile rings exist. But I'm not going to completely buy into Pizzagate until some legitimate evidence is presented and the proper authorities open up an investigation.

I think individuals who hold high ranking positions in the FBI have better intel than internet autists.

And I sincerely hope anyone who could even fathom sexually abusing a child spends the rest of their life rotting in a prison cell.

Missing the point and you all know it.

The reason it's important is because this means the shit gets spread to a wider audience. Kind of like how "Spirit Cooking" never really gained any "Traction" but it sure as hell influenced the election.

Post: #149

(11-30-2016 10:11 PM)wi30 Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 09:54 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

(11-30-2016 09:34 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  I'm changing my opinion on this one.

Don't count it out entirely. A lot of conspiracy theory Youtubers have picked this up and are running with it.

Have conspiracy theory Youtubers ever successfully found any conspiracies?

Lock Ness Monster, Bigfoot, Nibiru, Flat Earth, Moon Landing, etc.

Pretty solid track record if you ask me.

I fully believe a ton of fucked up pedophile rings exist. But I'm not going to completely buy into Pizzagate until some legitimate evidence is presented and the proper authorities open up an investigation.

I think individuals who hold high ranking positions in the FBI have better intel than internet autists.

And I sincerely hope anyone who could even fathom sexually abusing a child spends the rest of their life rotting in a prison cell.

If you knew a gay middle aged guy and he continued to post pictures of young children, even babies, who were not his own on his Instagram, what would you think about that, appropiate? Not appropiate? Cause for concern?

Post: #150

Personally, I'd like to see a SWAT team enter Comet Pizza, and a SEAL team descend on Epstein's island looking for tunnels, but I'm not in charge. At this point there is nothing we can do from behind our screens. Law enforcement has to look at it and make a decision on whether there is something to investigate. And if they are compromised, hopefully the new administration might be able to do something.