(12-13-2009 04:12 PM)Pepini Wrote: Dude I´m portuguese so I know a litle about the language. And I´ve lived in Madrid for 6 months so I also now spanish.
Of course the languages are different, and the way people speak it it´s also different but I can assure that if I speak slow portuguese (from Portugal) most spanish will understand me and vice versa. When I lived in Madrid I was seeing a german girl that often visited me. She lived in lisbon so she spoke razoably portuguese. When she visited me in Madrid I gave her the advice above and it worked for her. I didn´t read it on a book or hear it on a class, it was just empirical observation. But your right though I should have written:
Portuguese is quite near Spanish, you just have to talk slower and change the sssssss by the chhee, to make any portuguese understand you. I´m not talking about writting a novel, just plain conversational level.
When I went to Madrid I didn´t spoke any spanish, only portuguese, I didn´t made any language course (cause I got there late) and yet I´ve passed a number of disciplines in university and my course demanded good knowledge of spanish.
There are many differences between portuguese and spanish, but so as portuguese (Portugal) and portuguese (Brazil). Hell even inside Portugal you have different words for the same thing but that doesn´t make me not understand portuguese spoken in any part of Portugal.
I realize this might be an old thread, but couldn't help comment on a couple of things:
Pepini,
what you're saying about Portuguese and Spanish being the same might apply to Continental Portuguese (the one spoken in Portugual), but definitely not to Brazilian Portuguese. Continental Portuguese (or Portuguese in short) and Brazilian Portuguese (Brasileiro in short) are 2 very different languages. Different expressions, different words, different ways to express oneself in each of them and definitely different accent. Big freaking time!
"Foste a casa do teu primo?".
See, that's what I'm saying. In Portugual, that may be what you guys use, but in Brasil? Hell no! No one is going to use "foste". In Brasil, they'll say:
"Foi na casa do teu/seu primo?"
Now, the "s" being pronounced "shhh" that you guys in Portugual are so fond of. LOL The s is being pronunced "shhh" mainly in Rio, but the way the Cariocas use it is quite nice, soothing and sexy, unlike the Portuguese.
When I listen to Portuguese people speaking Portuguese, I have a real hard time understanding them, while this is not the case in Brasil or with Brasilians. Even where I live, I know some Portuguese cool cats but when they speak Portuguese, I can barely understand them, while with Brasileiros, no problem. So much that nowadays, when someone asks me if I speak Portuguese, I reply "I don't speak Portuguese, but I do speak Brazilian Portuguese".
Oh here's a cool line I've been using in Brasil with a lot of success with everyone, is when someone asks me whether I speak Portuguese, I tell them "não falo português, mas falo Brasileiro". And watch them lit up and I earn good browny points with the girls and get lots of kudos from the guys. So try it too.