Post: #26

(09-07-2016 05:45 PM)eradicator Wrote:  What the fuck is an "alpha provider".

Well Roosh wrote an article about this: http://www.rooshv.com/the-alpha-provider

An alpha provider is basically a strong and masculine individual who provides for his young, protects them and has a sense of purpose. The kind of men that used to exist in abundance but are slowly becoming extinct due to the current feminized culture and war against masculinity. Personally, I'd say an alpha provider is simply an alpha male who at some point decides he's ready to settle down and provide.

Also I've had similar experiences to the one described in the end of the reddit article but it was because the girls got a whiff of beta from me, and took advantage of the opportunity. Saying they didnt want to bang because youre an "alpha provider" is just cognitive dissonance. They didn't want to bang because they didn't see you as an alpha and your game was not sufficient, money has nothing to do with it.

Post: #27

So, a guy gets all the way to his apartment with a hottie who already wants to bang him, then she sees how squared away his place is, says whoa, wait I'd better shift gears, then changes her mind? Uh, ok.

And rearranging your apartment so your bedroom is where your couch should be..... only a reddit user would think of that. Anybody who doesn't already live in a studio ever try this? That would probably come off as a super weird distraction to all but the sluttiest of sluts.

Post: #28

These sorts of things read a lot different after not having watched any porn in over a month. It reads like a strung-out dope head rationalizing his false enlightenment to all of his dope head friends.





Yeah I'm not buying this.

The people that benefit from this type of advice are mainly those who were raised by their mother and think the first thing a man should do is take a woman out to an expensive dinner, and if he's lucky, the planets will align, and they will have sex.

He's afraid to escalate, he's afraid of talking sexual with women, and doesn't have the bantz to pull it off without coming across as a weirdo.

That said, my first date is almost always a cafe or something outdoors, better both, with a clear escalation route. It works.

But I've also pulled the cheap dinner date to freaky sex that apparently doesn't happen. While the girl knew I was already banging out her friend.

And girls can usually do the math when they see my place that I likely make 6 figs. The only time this held me up was with an EE girl that expected lots of goodies. But she also did a whole bunch of freaky shiat that isn't even in the OP.

Post: #29

(11-14-2016 06:29 AM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  So, a guy gets all the way to his apartment with a hottie who already wants to bang him, then she sees how squared away his place is, says whoa, wait I'd better shift gears, then changes her mind? Uh, ok.

And rearranging your apartment so your bedroom is where your couch should be..... only a reddit user would think of that. Anybody who doesn't already live in a studio ever try this? That would probably come off as a super weird distraction to all but the sluttiest of sluts.

Right, the essence behind it is that they want an experience. Quality, good vibes people and surroundings give that especially when not a part of the young girl's social circle.

If anything, swankiness adds to the intrigue. Just make sure you do it sooner than later. Screen at first if you want for trust, then make the move, the next time. Either way, go early, and don't give the vibe that you want to be with someone long term, unless you do.

Post: #30

This is just about how women judge men and act differently based on how they view them. It's nothing new that girls can be virgins or sluts depending on who they are with. Same thing here but with live evidence...

Post: #31

Yeah, I mean this is just utter nonsense from Reddit. Girls want to fuck Alphas, period. If she decides she wants to keep you around, she'll do every slutty thing under the sun to keep you happy. Not the reverse.

Post: #32

Yep, this is a good example of the type of shit that leads to the type of male mental gymnastics that does him no good and keeps him home on a Fri. or Sat. night thinking of a good response to post rather than getting off his ass, out the house and in a social environment with hot chicks.

For a guy that still struggles with AA or "Inner game" and gets caught up with this type of theory based nonsense that has no real practical use other than complaining about his results, he's got no one to blame but himself.

Post: #33

This is nothing but autist feng shui and male hamstering. Next we'll be hearing that if it's 90 degrees out and you're wearing a suit after work, she won't fuck you because you don't have alpha weather acclimatization skills.

"I didn't get the girl because of the way my apartment was ordered." ===> So long as your toilet isn't the first room you enter from the front door, you have a good sense of apartment/house hygiene, and your walls aren't clogged with Sailor Moon posters, this shit from Reddit is entirely irrelevant and actually damaging.

Post: #34

(11-18-2016 11:16 AM)david.garrett84 Wrote:  This is nothing but autist feng shui and male hamstering. Next we'll be hearing that if it's 90 degrees out and you're wearing a suit after work, she won't fuck you because you don't have alpha weather acclimatization skills.

"I didn't get the girl because of the way my apartment was ordered." ===> So long as your toilet isn't the first room you enter from the front door, you have a good sense of apartment/house hygiene, and your walls aren't clogged with Sailor Moon posters, this shit from Reddit is entirely irrelevant and actually damaging.

I've banged chicks with no sheets on the bed. I've banged chicks while living on a couch, ect.

These redditfags just want to overanalyze everything to death to AVOID DOING THE WORK.

Post: #35

Had a shower. Flushed the alcohol out of my mouth with toothpaste and Listerine. Tried to soothe the deafened noise in my ears (it's just after 530am in Melbourne right now). Then read this thread again and the Reddit page.

Thoughts:
- These Reddit guys (on this particular count) still have no fucking clue. TRP sub-reddit does have some quality information, contrary to what some have said here and elsewhere on RVF. I wanted to give the Reddit gents the benefit of the doubt due to how I was feeling when I got home, but there's no doubt that they have autisted the fuck out of this one on second reading.
- They have probably inadvertently substituted beta providers who half-pull off alpha provider for actual alpha providers. They think they're one and the same and they're not. Guys with cash or kinds of connections have a lot of confidence in certain situations.
- They haven't controlled for variables (not that you really can in accounting for these situations). I have had girls back off temporarily for all sorts of reasons, ones I at first did not know about. Then a few hours or days later the game is back on. Things like having their period have led to girls (without telling me the reason) suddenly withdrawing, deciding that the hook-up won't be worth them embarrassingly explaining away the resultant blood on my sheets. Or girls feeling they aren't "good enough" for me. Subsequent to these types of situations, I often get a text from them apologizing and things go back to normal. The idea that game is a panacea that prevents illogical, non-open or otherwise mind-numbing female behavior is simply false. Whilst in some of these situations I could have maybe intuited what was going on and run something to stall the ASD or LMR, I'm not a mind-reader and girls very often have external shit going on that not even a psych could fix.
- Linking to the previous point, no alpha is always as alpha as he can be and he won't snare every girl he wants (presuming he goes after many high-quality ones). Some of these TRP posters think they can concoct a foolproof formula ("No, wait! What you're missing is 'the bedroom before the living room' trick!") that is as simple as dialing a number to call the person you want to speak to. That's not how real life, including game, works. Alphas are the like the Allen keys of Allen keys, yet they can't open every pussy door - they have their off days. Blaming a bedroom arrangement is premature trigger-pulling at its worst. So much other crap, both related and not related to the guy, could be behind it.

Post: #36

(11-18-2016 01:34 PM)david.garrett84 Wrote:  [Sound, well reasoned response.]

Post: #37

Yeah, guys have way too much invested in their ego to realize 80% of the time it's her problems in her head, or period, that are throwing things off, not any 'trick' they didn't do.

Let's be honest we've all made mistakes, perhaps more than a few, with girls who have banged us anyway.