(10-29-2016 12:58 PM)TooFineAPoint Wrote: I could only handle 1 min of that. "Let Trump know I'm doing his bidding" ??! What is up with these reporters?
So, is CNN sort of reporting on this stuff for real now? Can someone who follows tv give us a breakdown?
Or are they still constantly making excuses and qualifying/re-framing, and then saying "but see, I COVERED it so I must not be biased"?
When the news broke yesterday I was flipping back and forth between Fox & CNN. Fox seems to be going for the killshot. CNN is definitely covering it, but in more of "this is probably nothing" type of deal.
If no evidence/remarks by Comey come out in the next 10 days this will not have any effect on the Trump/Hillary supporters. It could definitely sway some independents though. Even if nothing comes out, it makes Hillary look even more guilty (didn't think that was possible).
I'm not holding my breath on anything epic to come out of this, but the potential is there.
By the way, I'm 100% confident Trump is going to win.
I disagree that this won't have any effect on Trump/Hillary supporters.
A lot of voters didn't like either candidate, but were leaning towards one or the other. Some that were "Never Trump" and going to vote for Hillary will likely now either stay home or vote for Stein or Johnson
The MSM seem to actually be covering this, in a way that is like "this news is too big not to cover, we can't just ignore it".
The fact that Huma Abedein was in tears over this, she knows the Weiner email probe probably cost Hillary the election.
I guess what I don't get, is how did some schmuck like Antony Weiner get a hold of emails that would swing a presidential election?
Any evidence of Crying Huma besides that one pic everyone keeps bringing up. It doesn't look like Huma was crying in that to me.
(10-29-2016 12:54 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote: ^I cannot stand the bald guy on the left. He needs to STFU
I take it you've never see Don Lemon in action.
I've seen that guy a few times, not as bad as the bald guy i'd say. The bald guy looks too intense and is extremely passive aggressive. He cannot stop deflecting
Liberal news outlets are gangbanging the "emails are not to or from Hillary" narrative from this new FBI announcement like it'll be a bukkake in the end.
I don't think it matters to the voters as long as she's involved but some libtards will swallow this narrative like whores because they don't know any better.
Its all speculation at this point. Yesterday I would have agreed with the smokescreen. To investigate via FBI to cover for Wikileaks or something worse? I think its more to quell a revolt at the FBI.
Today? If the FBI is in on a coverup of something else its to set up Huma to fall. If the FBI is serious about the investigation I think anyone near this scandal is toast because they have some serious crap going on.
I seriously cannot believe Clinton is a candidate. I cannot see how she can do anything as president if elected. Our republican form of government is teetering on collapse and its very possible if elected Clinton will be impeached and removed from office by this time next year. In a thread previously I had indicated a Clinton presidency would include very much the same path we are on now....a slow decline. Now....with all of this crap going on? Project Veritas and the videos?
The below....she will sell her own mother for a nickel if she knows that nickel will elect her president.
You're fucking high if you think this FBI news doesn't effect Hillary's supporters. Not all of them are chomping at the bit to vote for someone under investigation.
She already can't fill a local coffee shop when she holds a rally, you don't think this will peel away more votes?
(10-29-2016 03:45 PM)Fisto Wrote: You're fucking high if you think this FBI news doesn't effect Hillary's supporters. Not all of them are chomping at the bit to vote for someone under investigation.
She already can't fill a local coffee shop when she holds a rally, you don't think this will peel away more votes?
Please.
I personally know a couple of people who would only vote for Hillary unless she isnt an option on the ballot.
They will still vote for her. "All of it is lies" is an actual quote. Its either brainwashing or confirmation bias.
(10-29-2016 03:45 PM)Fisto Wrote: You're fucking high if you think this FBI news doesn't effect Hillary's supporters. Not all of them are chomping at the bit to vote for someone under investigation.
She already can't fill a local coffee shop when she holds a rally, you don't think this will peel away more votes?
Please.
From the Hillary supports I've talked to, they are voting against Trump as opposed to for Hillary.
That's why I don't think this will affect many Hill Shills. Those in her camp are dug in deep and will rationalize anything away. I only see the Hill Shills jumping ship if damning anti-Hillary evidence is released in the next 10 days, which I doubt will happen.
What is more likely, is that come monday and the fresh news cycle, the leftists will release whatever they have left. If it's got anything to bite on to, the MSM will latch onto it and do another 20x covering of anti-Trump to 1x covering of this.
That will give the Hill Shills something else to confirm their bias. Unless it is extremely damning of President Trump, the core voter base will note change. The independents however can be swayed either way.
Next week's news cycle is going to pivotal in this.
President Trump will still win. But next week is gonna fun.
Something like this would hit conservatives a lot more since they're internally motivated and feel personal shame. Liberals are not internally motivated, they do things which appear moral for outside acknowledgement. In private they don't care, will beat and neglect their children while preaching about children in Africa. The so called 'Reagan democrat' is already solidly in the base of Trump. The liberal leftovers don't care, they have a purely tribalistic morality, the enemy is wrong, they are right. Liberals are a scourge upon humanity.
(10-29-2016 03:45 PM)Fisto Wrote: You're fucking high if you think this FBI news doesn't effect Hillary's supporters. Not all of them are chomping at the bit to vote for someone under investigation.
She already can't fill a local coffee shop when she holds a rally, you don't think this will peel away more votes?
Please.
From the Hillary supports I've talked to, they are voting against Trump as opposed to for Hillary.
That's why I don't think this will affect many Hill Shills. Those in her camp are dug in deep and will rationalize anything away. I only see the Hill Shills jumping ship if damning anti-Hillary evidence is released in the next 10 days, which I doubt will happen.
What is more likely, is that come monday and the fresh news cycle, the leftists will release whatever they have left. If it's got anything to bite on to, the MSM will latch onto it and do another 20x covering of anti-Trump to 1x covering of this.
That will give the Hill Shills something else to confirm their bias. Unless it is extremely damning of President Trump, the core voter base will note change. The independents however can be swayed either way.
Next week's news cycle is going to pivotal in this.
President Trump will still win. But next week is gonna fun.
Actually I take back some of the comment. A lot of the Hill supports are previous Bernie Bros. I have been trolling them, saying that they this may actually give them the chance to have their socialist hugbox leader elected.
The true Hill Shills wont jump ship unless she is convicted. The previous Bernie Bros probably wont jump to President Trump, but they may decide to go 3rd party or be demoralized to even bother voting.
I know some people, and the funniest part is they were Bernie people, who are in complete denial - posting something like:
"I don't really care about this. Bush and Cheney deleted 22 emails [LOL] too, but Trump never talks about that"
This is obviously a severe case of cognitive dissonance, so I simply point out that Trump implied that Bush had a part in 9/11, something even Dems won't dare say.
Most people however have been quite silent on Facebook - which is what we want. We have broken their will to fight.
Why do these people buy it?
College, and their friends. They're like little kids holding their breath or covering their ears and yelling till their mom buys them a candy bar to shut them up.
(10-29-2016 03:45 PM)Fisto Wrote: You're fucking high if you think this FBI news doesn't effect Hillary's supporters. Not all of them are chomping at the bit to vote for someone under investigation.
She already can't fill a local coffee shop when she holds a rally, you don't think this will peel away more votes?
You haven't seen nothing yet, the day Trump wins will be glorious, I fully expect mass hysteria outside usual SoMe signalling. I expect crowds in the street crying, wailing, self harming, with some luck someone will set themselves on fire. I expect news anchor meltdowns on live TV, screaming, cursing, smashing things. I expect pundits on the left calling for a military coup, I expect purchases of airplane tickets to Israel to skyrocket, I expect minority mass looting.
You aint seen nothing yet folks, this might become a pandemic of mentall illness unleashed.
I talked about a major Hill Shill friend I have in the 3rd debate thread. Very intellectual guy that is great at debating. During the debate we were texting and post debate he became very irrate and was bringing up flawed arguments, definitely not his style.
I just asked him about his thoughts on the new email thing. His reply:
"I just want this to be over, I'm done."
Shit, maybe Fisto was right. Maybe this is having more of an impact on her supporters than I imagined.
Most Clinton fans I know have a severe mental problem. Despite everything coming out they have gone into an extreme case of denial. Lucky the independents don't have the same form of retardation.
Quote:OCTOBER 28--So how did John Podesta’s e-mail account get hacked?
The answer to that question came into embarrassing focus this morning with the latest Wikileaks dump of correspondence stolen from the Gmail account of Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman.
On March 19, a Saturday, Podesta received an e-mail--purportedly from Google--warning him that, “Someone has your password.” The alert (seen above) informed Podesta that a sign-in attempt from an IP address in Ukraine was thwarted and that, “You should change your password immediately.”
The e-mail, addressed "Hi John," included a blue “CHANGE PASSWORD” box to be clicked.
As TSG reported in August, similar messages were sent to the Gmail accounts of scores of other Clinton campaign officials around the time Podesta received the phony alert. An identical e-mail--containing the exact Ukrainian IP address--was received on March 22 by William Rinehart, a campaign organizer. The IP address included in the e-mails received by Podesta and Rinehart traces back to Kyivstar, Ukraine’s largest telecommunications company.
Like Rinehart, Podesta’s Gmail account was compromised by the “spear phishing” e-mail, which American investigators have concluded was the work of Russian intelligence operatives.
After the e-mail arrived in Podesta’s account, it appears that his chief of staff, Sara Latham, sought guidance from an IT worker with the Clinton campaign. After examining the “Someone has your password” e-mail, staffer Charles Delavan (seen at left) mistakenly assured Latham and Shane Hable, the campaign’s chief information officer, that, “This is a legitimate email. John needs to change his password immediately, and ensure that two-factor authorization is turned on his account.”
Delavan’s 9:54 AM e-mail included a link to an actual Google password change page. “It is absolutely imperative that this is done ASAP,” he added.
Latham then forwarded Delavan’s email to Podesta and campaign staffer Milia Fisher, who had access to Podesta’s Gmail account. “The gmail one is real,” wrote Latham, who instructed Fisher to change Podesta’s password since “Don’t want to lock him out of his in box!”
But instead of following the link provided by Delavan, it appears that Podesta or Fisher (pictured at right) clicked on the “CHANGE PASSWORD” box in the original “spear phishing” correspondence (a copy of which which was included in the e-mail chain that Saturday morning).
That link led to what appeared to be a legitimate Google page, but was actually a site designed by the hackers to capture a target’s log-in credentials. The link to the spoofed Gmail page included a lengthy underlying url with the .tk suffix, indicating that the domain created to trick Podesta was registered in Tokelau, a remote group of South Pacific atolls.
The hidden 293-character link included a string of characters containing the encoded Gmail address for Podesta ([email protected]).
The e-mails stolen in the Podesta hack and posted on Wikileaks show that the most recent correspondence is from March 21.
While Delavan protected his Twitter page following the publication of this story, he did offer the public some sage advice earlier this week. In an October 25 tweet, Delavan wrote, “don’t click on anything ever. delete your email account. move to the woods.”
Sure...um...please elect these morons because we want them in charge of a 4 trillion dollar budget and our nuclear arsenal...and then move to the woods because all is lost and its for "a new beginning".
(10-29-2016 04:50 PM)nomadbrah Wrote: You haven't seen nothing yet, the day Trump wins will be glorious, I fully expect mass hysteria outside usual SoMe signalling. I expect crowds in the street crying, wailing, self harming, with some luck someone will set themselves on fire. I expect news anchor meltdowns on live TV, screaming, cursing, smashing things. I expect pundits on the left calling for a military coup, I expect purchases of airplane tickets to Israel to skyrocket, I expect minority mass looting.
You aint seen nothing yet folks, this might become a pandemic of mentall illness unleashed.
I do not watch TV anymore but I will watch lots of it after the election, people like Cooper or Maddaw, Jorge Ramos on Univision, Samantha Bee, John Oliver, Trevor Noah.
God is going to be glorious these people reacting to Trump being elected.
I also fear Soros will unleash mass riots across the country, and some people may die.
The house going in dry on FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe on conflict of interest with his wife receiving hillary PAC money and reversal of classification decisions.