(10-25-2016 08:05 PM)Moma Wrote: Any particular lines or openings from the verbal front? Again, assume it's a black club. Lizards can be either hoodrat with aspirations for better things or college educated (higher).
Male: What you saying, is this the best club in time? << good line or too generic?
Are slight negs good or best to totally avoid them with black lizards? If not avoid them, what are good culturally specific negs.
Again, let's go with a general approach here with the understanding that the lizard can behave differently.
1) openers -
a) Join the ongoing conversation.
If you're chatting with the patrons and bar staff before she walks up, it's real easy to get her to chime in on what the topic is. Once she starts chatting- you get off the topic - and in to *how* she answers the question. Because the one thing she can talk at length about is herself.
You would say something like that
You look like the type of girl...
*she's gonna sense the pattern and defend herself*
But once that starts, the game is on, and she's already qualifying herself to you.
[b][b]b) The Drink[/b][/b]
You're posted up taking in the scene, club soda in hand, she steps to the bar to order her thing.
I didn't peg you for a *fruity drink* , you look like a hard drinker
I didn't think you were a hard drinker, you like a fruity drink drinker.
And you know what they say about a girl that drinks...
c) The folks at the venue
Talk to her with the tone that you know her
"You see ol boy over there?"
"You see ol girl over there?"
Get them to see, make an observation, and then pick apart their response to your observation.
All roads lead back to talking about her and how she thinks. Rarely do they go to you, and what/how you think.
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The opener just starts the conversation.
In your specific case, I'd ask her about HER accent.
"I've been here for a few, and I think people in the city proper have different accents than the ones in the sticks. Is that what you say here? The sticks? The boondocks?"
She'll ask you about yours, and you can just riff off of being a A Young Yout doing di Ting.
And then ask HER about where she's been.
If she hasn't been anywhere, you say YET. And then describe what it's like to touch down in a new place, but start looking for something familiar.
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Negs?
Negs are misunderstood. They come in a lot of different flavors.
I wouldn't do any of that back-handed compliment style neg, or low grade insult style neg.
White girls don't grow up roasting each other.
BLACK FOLKS THOUGH?
HOOD BLACK FOLKS?
Forget it.
You come at the chick the wrong way, and the whole damn venue is gonna start cutting on your tight ass pants, your baggy ass pants, your white ass shoes, you black ass shoes, et cetera.
So stay away from that type of neg.
An easy neg is the tease, like above, "you look like the type..." Say it with a smile, and she knows that you're flirting.
The overall point of the neg is that you're not impressed, you're not intimidated by her shit. It's not that what she does is bad, but it's only "chill". You don't try to one up her, you just don't give her that typical emotional reaction to "I'm a stripper at Magic City".
So if she says whatever, you can look her dead in the eye, and say "I'll bet"
Most dudes just try to gas a girl's head up. You can't be most dudes.
A useful neg is not about deflating her shit by trying to make her feel bad, but not being impressed, giving her grudging respect, making her earn your admiration.
So you come at a chick respectful, but you also respect yourself.
My sequence
- see her
- get her attention
- open the conversation
- transition into talking about her.
If she asks about you, and is impressed - that's a sign of interest, but I don't bring up shit about me until she asks. My focus is on 1) her, 2) the interaction/conversation.
For brothers like ourselves, our manner of speaking says a whole lot more about our lives than actually saying that I'm a doctor, i'm an engineer, I travel all the time.
Let her fill in the blanks.
Let her ask you for your name.
- Get her qualifying herself to me- this is the key to game, it ain't about whether she wants to suck your dick, it's about putting her in a sequence where she's seeking your approval - and you barely giving it. You get her in that loop, you get her mind. Once you have the mind, the body is easy.
^This is like 5-10 minutes, TOPS. This ain't something elaborate.
- With black women specifically - let her know that you're interested in her. Cause black women will have a good ass conversation with you, and then go home to their boyfriends.
- Get her logistics and relations - who she came with, who she live with, where she lives, how she got there, what's going on tonight, what's going on tomorrow. If you're trying to hit that night - knowing that she drove her whole crew means you will have to roll with that crew and last the night in order to bang.
- with enough qualification - you ease up
- from there - dance floor, lounge area, smoking area, Waffle House to build further. The point is to move her around, and get her used to seeing you in new places, and nothing bad happening. Also interacting with other folks while you chat her up is key to show that you can handle people.
In your case, since you're an International Player, but you're dealing with Domestic Bottoms - maybe you want to tap into that sense of adventure. Black women can be very unadventurous. They want to stick to the same bullshit over and over. Same clubs, same dances, fucking with the same set of dudes since high school/college. Hoodrats and professional/independent women alike. Like I see black folks travel, and they make it a point to "go to the hood". There are no hoods in Istanbul. smh.
The angle with the hood rat is to get her to try something different, just slightly.
Like you, I've had a few chicks of the hood persuasion, but they were the ones that wanted more than just what was around them.
WIA