Post: #26

(10-20-2016 08:02 PM)Kona Wrote:  I'm sure you guys all saw Kelley get cucked hard on the most recent Below Deck episode.

Kelley should have shifted to Sierra (she's hotter and has a huge rack, a little chubby) when Emily clearly wasn't receptive. Play those two against each other.

Post: #27

Any of the guys from the show "New Girl". All the guys seem to be there to "serve" zooey deschanel's goofy ass.

Post: #28

(10-21-2016 10:54 AM)estraudi Wrote:  Any of the guys from the show "New Girl". All the guys seem to be there to "serve" zooey deschanel's goofy ass.

The dude from 500 days of summer.

Post: #29

(10-21-2016 02:02 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 08:02 PM)Kona Wrote:  I'm sure you guys all saw Kelley get cucked hard on the most recent Below Deck episode.

Kelley should have shifted to Sierra (she's hotter and has a huge rack, a little chubby) when Emily clearly wasn't receptive. Play those two against each other.

I forsee Kelly fucking Sierra.

At the resort, Kyle the new deckhand, he was moving in on Sierra. Kelly was too busy oiling Emily to get involved. Kyle later asked Sierra to go fishing, she said yes, but the next thing you know she's inviting the whole crew to go also.

Kyle is gonna get cucked. In the preview you saw Kelly yelling at Sierra about playing with kyle. You know where that lead in a cramped area like they live in. I think he can pull that off, but he should take note of last season. The Bosun and stew relationship between Eddie and Rocky was a disaster.



Rocky was a little meaty, and I bet a great fuck. Just batshit crazy.

Aloha!

Post: #30

Furio from Sopranos. Pining and crying over a forty year old wife of his don.

Post: #31

(10-21-2016 01:35 PM)Kona Wrote:  At the resort, Kyle the new deckhand, he was moving in on Sierra. Kelly was too busy oiling Emily to get involved. Kyle later asked Sierra to go fishing, she said yes, but the next thing you know she's inviting the whole crew to go also.

Sierra started backtracking on the date the second he mentioned giving all of his money to his kid and baby mama. You could almost see the moment when Sierra realized Kyle wouldn't have much money left to spend on her.

Post: #32

Who is beta?

Every single male character in Big Bang Threory.
All main guy characters in how I met your mother except - Barnie (although he is gay in real life)
2 main characters in Scrubs - Black guy and a white guy. The main doctor is alpha though.

Out of 3 guys in friends only Joey is not beta. "How you doing?"

Dr. House is the only alpha in the series - but a serious one.

Majority is beta, kind of the same as in real life...

Post: #33

I have never watched any of the shows mentioned in this thread. Now I am glad I avoided them.

Post: #34

"Green Wing" was my favorite comedy from the early 2000's and had one of the biggest betas of all time, Martin Dear:




His character is such a beta that when I did a google image search for the face of the character, the only one I found was that one. ^

There were tons of pictures of the faces of other characters in the search results for Martin, the disparity between his charisma and theirs on the show being what it is.

Oh yeah, there was also this picture:



Green Wing was a red pill show set in a hospital where no one spent any time with patients, and all their energy was spent either trying to sleep with other characters, one-up them, or destroy them emotionally.

Another signature of the show was that all the characters had their ids totally unleashed, and said and did exactly what they felt, and it was basically a Darwinian free for all, and Martin was the prey.

Paradoxically, the show was created by a woman, though who hates betas more than they do?

Here is Martin being anxious about exams:





Getting test results:

Best line in the clip: another character says Martin makes him sick because of "the aroma of women who care mingled with Martin's fear."





Mocked and dominated by HR woman:

Post: #35

Off topic, but someone mentioned The Wonder Years supporting character.


I've been watching TWY on Netflix lately, and damned if it isn't quality television. Each episode has a message / moral and it's a great show for young kids to watch. The father is an asshole, but he's not portrayed as a villain. Nor is he an incompetent buffoon like all other TV dads. There's an episode where Kevin and the family are constantly intimated by him because he comes home from work in a shit mood. Kevin goes with him to work the next day and learns how hard and stressful it is to work for a living and empathizes with his dad. You'd never find that in a modern TV show. No way, no how.

The mom is portrayed as not so smart but supportive and fulfills her motherly duties, not as an empowered harpy (think Malcom in the Middle).

Post: #36

(10-21-2016 05:38 PM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  Off topic, but someone mentioned The Wonder Years supporting character.


I've been watching TWY on Netflix lately, and damned if it isn't quality television. Each episode has a message / moral and it's a great show for young kids to watch. The father is an asshole, but he's not portrayed as a villain. Nor is he an incompetent buffoon like all other TV dads. There's an episode where Kevin and the family are constantly intimated by him because he comes home from work in a shit mood. Kevin goes with him to work the next day and learns how hard and stressful it is to work for a living and empathizes with his dad. You'd never find that in a modern TV show. No way, no how.

The mom is portrayed as not so smart but supportive and fulfills her motherly duties, not as an empowered harpy (think Malcom in the Middle).

"The Wonder Years" is, without a doubt, one of my all-time favorite shows. Equal parts heartbreaking and hilarious. It may sound cliche to say, but they really don't make 'em like they used to. Great show!

Post: #37

(10-21-2016 11:04 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 05:38 PM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  Off topic, but someone mentioned The Wonder Years supporting character.


I've been watching TWY on Netflix lately, and damned if it isn't quality television. Each episode has a message / moral and it's a great show for young kids to watch. The father is an asshole, but he's not portrayed as a villain. Nor is he an incompetent buffoon like all other TV dads. There's an episode where Kevin and the family are constantly intimated by him because he comes home from work in a shit mood. Kevin goes with him to work the next day and learns how hard and stressful it is to work for a living and empathizes with his dad. You'd never find that in a modern TV show. No way, no how.

The mom is portrayed as not so smart but supportive and fulfills her motherly duties, not as an empowered harpy (think Malcom in the Middle).

"The Wonder Years" is, without a doubt, one of my all-time favorite shows. Equal parts heartbreaking and hilarious. It may sound cliche to say, but they really don't make 'em like they used to. Great show!

My all time favorite TV show. The best, period.

Post: #38

(10-21-2016 05:38 PM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  Off topic, but someone mentioned The Wonder Years supporting character.


I've been watching TWY on Netflix lately, and damned if it isn't quality television. Each episode has a message / moral and it's a great show for young kids to watch. The father is an asshole, but he's not portrayed as a villain. Nor is he an incompetent buffoon like all other TV dads. There's an episode where Kevin and the family are constantly intimated by him because he comes home from work in a shit mood. Kevin goes with him to work the next day and learns how hard and stressful it is to work for a living and empathizes with his dad. You'd never find that in a modern TV show. No way, no how.

The mom is portrayed as not so smart but supportive and fulfills her motherly duties, not as an empowered harpy (think Malcom in the Middle).

Jack Arnold an asshole? Not even close. He was part of the first wave of the true "corporatization" of America that grinds you up and spits you out. He also experienced firsthand the start of the downfall of American society (via Karen, the daughter). Yeah, obviously he was pissed off a lot - the times he lived in were killing him. But he was a good guy.

If you watch the last season of the show, you see him change when he leaves corporate America.

Post: #39

(10-21-2016 11:27 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 05:38 PM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  Off topic, but someone mentioned The Wonder Years supporting character.


I've been watching TWY on Netflix lately, and damned if it isn't quality television. Each episode has a message / moral and it's a great show for young kids to watch. The father is an asshole, but he's not portrayed as a villain. Nor is he an incompetent buffoon like all other TV dads. There's an episode where Kevin and the family are constantly intimated by him because he comes home from work in a shit mood. Kevin goes with him to work the next day and learns how hard and stressful it is to work for a living and empathizes with his dad. You'd never find that in a modern TV show. No way, no how.

The mom is portrayed as not so smart but supportive and fulfills her motherly duties, not as an empowered harpy (think Malcom in the Middle).

Jack Arnold an asshole? Not even close. He was part of the first wave of the true "corporatization" of America that grinds you up and spits you out. He also experienced firsthand the start of the downfall of American society (via Karen, the daughter). Yeah, obviously he was pissed off a lot - the times he lived in were killing him. But he was a good guy.

If you watch the last season of the show, you see him change when he leaves corporate America.

^ Couldn't have said it better myself. I imagine a lot of us RVF'ers would become much more disillusioned than Jack if God forbid Trump doesn't win this thing and we see the fall of America within our lifetime. I agree with YossariansRight, it's dismissive to write off Jack as an "asshole".

Post: #40

Ok abrasive, not an asshole. I meant that in an alpha asshole sort of way. In other words, cool.

Post: #41

(10-20-2016 10:55 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  Paul Pfeiffer from "The Wonder Years"

I'm not sure about this one. Paul had sex before Kevin did. Paul had a steady girl friend for a long time as well.

I'd say Kevin was a beta because he constantly fawned over Winnie, and nothing happened more than a few kisses. He even turned down interest from the much more attractive Madeline. Not to mention, Kevin kept taking crap from Wayne. The few times he did do something that hurt Wayne, he felt guilty about it.

I watched that show religiously when it was on. Now looking back, I wonder why I did. I kept hoping Kevin would get with Winnie or finally do something really awful to Wayne. He did neither.

Kevin Arnold was more beta than Paul was.

For those of you who are watching reruns, do you know if they kept the music that was originally in the TV series? This kept the show of DVD for a long time. I hope they have all the music in the show, as it was maybe the best thing about it.

Post: #42

(10-22-2016 01:31 PM)puckerman Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 10:55 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  Paul Pfeiffer from "The Wonder Years"

I'm not sure about this one. Paul had sex before Kevin did. Paul had a steady girl friend for a long time as well.

I'd say Kevin was a beta because he constantly fawned over Winnie, and nothing happened more than a few kisses. He even turned down interest from the much more attractive Madeline. Not to mention, Kevin kept taking crap from Wayne. The few times he did do something that hurt Wayne, he felt guilty about it.

I watched that show religiously when it was on. Now looking back, I wonder why I did. I kept hoping Kevin would get with Winnie or finally do something really awful to Wayne. He did neither.

Kevin Arnold was more beta than Paul was.

For those of you who are watching reruns, do you know if they kept the music that was originally in the TV series? This kept the show of DVD for a long time. I hope they have all the music in the show, as it was maybe the best thing about it.

The argument that Kevin was "beta" doesn't make Paul an "alpha". Even if Paul was "beta-plus" he would still fall along the beta spectrum for sure.

For years, whenever they'd play reruns of the show on TV they weren't allowed to play the original music because of copyright issues. A couple years ago, they finally released a legitimate (as opposed to bootleg) collection of the entire series on DVD/Blu-Ray complete with original soundtrack. I know "The Wonder Years" is currently streaming on Netflix, but I've not had the chance to watch it on there yet, so I can't confirm whether or not it has the original soundtrack. Can anyone else shed light on this?

Post: #43

(10-22-2016 07:34 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  The argument that Kevin was "beta" doesn't make Paul an "alpha". Even if Paul was "beta-plus" he would still fall along the beta spectrum for sure.

I never said Paul was an alpha. But he was closer to alpha than Kevin ever was.

I remember one completely idiotic episode in which Karen decides to give up her room. She was their older sister and had a room all to herself. Of course, they end up fighting over it, even though they both admit that they want to be in separate rooms. It's hard to guess which one was the bigger beta--Kevin or Wayne.

Kevin also would pick fights with all of Winnie's boy friends, but he hardly ever made any effort to get with another girl.

Post: #44

Louis Litt from Suits.



Spoilers alert:

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He has always been a beta in the show but recently he leveled up to cuck.

Met a woman (7.5) fell in love, found out she has an open relationship, continued to fall deeper, boyfriend comes over and they bang, tells Louis shes pregnant and it's not his, after thinking on it he says he will raise another mans child because he loves her.

What a load of bullshit.

Post: #45

I haven't seen a lot of these shows, so I can't speak to the details, but I certainly agree that any time a guy gets back together with a woman who gets fucked by some other guy is a total loser.

I remember bringing this up in another thread regarding the movie Crazy, Stupid, Love. Steve Carrell's character's wife cheats on him, yet he is portrayed as the bad guy and in the end begs her to get back together with him? Pathetic.

Regarding Sixteen Candles and The Wonder Years, the latter in particular is indeed a great show for the reasons that have been mentioned, and ages particularly well, again for the reasons mentioned.

I do want to mention Paul in TWY and Anthony Michael Hall (The Geek) in SC. Are both really 'beta'? Or are they just awkward, nerdy guys trying to do their best? AMH may have been 'The Geek', but hell, at least he tried. Likewise, Paul was an overt nerd, but I recall him at least trying with girls and often standing up for himself.

I bring this up mainly because I listen to how many of the women I work with and who are in my extended social circle talk about men. They are so unforgiving with men (unless he has $$ of course), conveniently overlooking their own shortcomings. It is fun though to listen to these aging harpies, with their sagging skin, expanding asses, and shitty attitudes, act as if their mediocre jobs make them a ten. Yet I witness more than a few men, who have committed the crime of being either not tall, don't make a small fortune and/or being slightly awkward, yearn for the affection of a pleasant, fit woman. More than a few have come to me for advice, and I always tell them to maintain their fitness and finances, and be as assertive as possible. But it's not in everyone's nature to do so, and often requires persistence and determination that can be draining. Women don't have to worry about this. All they have to do is not eat like a fucking hippo, be pleasant, and then show up.

Point is, not everyone can be 'alpha'. Some guys are just awkward, nerdy, not the physically strongest, etcetera. Yet they manage to do the best they can with the cards they were dealt with, and learn social skills through trial and error. Even then, they don't turn out to be James Bond, but can still obviously succeed in life. So yes, a guy is certainly 'beta' if he gets back together with a woman who cucks him. That should be the definition of beta, not a guy who is just the socially awkward nerd.

Post: #46

Post: #47

(10-23-2016 06:58 PM)wi30 Wrote:  

Not anymore. Butters has taken the red pill.

Post: #48

Swag.

Post: #49

(10-23-2016 09:36 PM)wi30 Wrote:  Swag.

I haven't been watching South Park. Is that a Harambe episode?

Post: #50

I Love You Man was on the other night. I've seen it before, it has it's moments.

What stuck out to me was in the main group of women there was the annoying friend who was always complaining about being single. I thought this was interesting because to me this would be an example of a beta woman, if there was such a thing.

It seems like every group of women has this friend, the one that's certainly not a circus freak nor even overweight really. But also unpleasant to be around and not as attractive or funny as her friends think she is, at least certainly not from a man's perspective. And always available.