Lol, all that German "style" reminds me of Dieter on Sprockets from SNL back in the day.

(09-23-2016 03:26 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  Germany has been long the home of the culture about what's the next big thing when it comes to dance music.

House was born here(it's close call between Germany and France).

Danced based DnB was popularized here.

Trance got popular here around the same time it was going hard in France and Belgium after it blew up in The Netherlands.

Yeah I have noticed that. The German electronic band Kraftwerk was very popular with Black American audiences back in the day. They had a huge influence on early hip hop and some rappers sampled their songs.

A lot of their American tours have a huge mix of whites and blacks in their audiences. If I'm not mistaken I think Solange Knowles nearly got into a fight at a recent Kraftwerk concert.

(09-23-2016 03:52 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ^House music was born in Chicago.

It gave birth to other genre's of music such as (techno, bpm, trance, new house, drum and base, garage etc).

I give credit where credit is due - thank you black america!

Completely forgot lol . I need to brush up on my music history.


*Well where it was popularized into what's considered the modern dance scene for mainstream audiences.*

(09-23-2016 07:03 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  But the skaters are wearing suits, lol.

That looks like Brooklyn hipster fashion, though nobody in the states would culturally appropriate Dia de los Muertos/sugar skulls...Lol. Who am I kidding!

1) So refugees can't afford to look like that and blend in?

2) that video had little to no female talent. Clearly a feminist director!

I'd fit in easily. But I'm still interested in the non ethnic Germans. Integrated 2nd generation Persians and Turks. And if there are any sistas...

WIA

I've seen a lot of Brooklyn to Berlin comparisons. Based on my limited observations, there is something to it. (East) Berlin is very raw and gritty. Its not a clean at all. Lots of graffiti, trash, and rubble everywhere. I think Berlin is like Brooklyn if Brooklyn was half the cost of living, got rid of 90% of its black people, and the hipsters decided to live in the bombed out neighborhoods that black people left behind.

(09-23-2016 01:57 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(09-23-2016 08:07 AM)coverdoc Wrote:  I don't understand something here.

Why did you guys go to Berlin expecting something besides alternative women? I am heavy into alternative types, they are my preference, so is the cultural that comes with it: clothing, music, personalities etc. So I knew going to Berlin i'd fit in and I did my research beforehand. I meshed well at house parties, night clubs, daytime meetups because these people were a reflection of my own personality.

It's like going to latin america and complaining about the women wearing high heels, dancing salsa and being emotional.

-CD

But there are hipsters in Mexico City, Goths too. Lot of heavy metal/American Rock is popular all over South America. Chicks I'm trying to bang in DR aren't doing Salsa, they're all on that Reggaeton.

Berlin is a legit fashion capital, along with London, Paris, Milan.

I expect Berlin to have
- rednecks and working class folks like America
- immigrants that have their own shit going
- blue bloods like America
- college kids
- cosmopolitans and yuppies
- hip hop fans

Last German I messed with knew a whole lot about cowboys and Indians. Threw me for a loop, but apparently there's German interest in that stuff.

It's like going to Japan and meeting a Japanese girl with an Afro



You don't expect it, but it happens.

Now the fact that you will get turned away for dressing too well - that's interesting.

Because that doesn't happen anywhere else in the world because Asia, Africa, America, Latin America - worship expressions of wealth. That's the baseline, Germany is the outlier on that. And I have a feeling that some of them thirsty immigrants who aren't dressed up will get turned away as well. So it's not dressing down, it's dressing RIGHT.

Germans are smart enough to say that even if you have money, it doesn't make you cool.

And to me, that's actually dope.

I wish some of the spots I go to would actually turn away these Transplant Assholes and their "too cool for school" chicks.

WIA

WIA I dont claim to be an expert. This was my first visit to Europe. Here are my conclusions based of off what my German wings told me and my own observations. Berlin is a unique city. It is also the poorest city in Germany. It should not be seen as a representation of Germany. Berlin is the most non German city in all of Germany. Things that go on or are tolerated there simply would not fly in other German cities.

I noted 4 distinct groups of people in Berlin.

Germans, Foreigners, Expats and Berliners.

There are Germans that live in Berlin and maintain many if not all of the cultural norms you will find in other German cities. They seem to be the minority.

50% of the city seems to be made up of non ethnic Germans IE foreigners that were either born there or have lived in Berlin many years and have somewhat assimilated into the culture.

There is a huge Expat community that lives in Berlin. Most of these people have been there for a relativity short period of time, months to a few years and may not be staying there permanently.

Then there are the Berliners my favorite group. This is a mix of all the aforementioned groups with one big exception. The German Berliners do not behave like traditional Germans at all. They speak perfect English usually without a detectable accent. Many have lived in English speaking countries IE US and UK. They are the ones that tend to have emo/punk/ grunge EDM/ FUnky soul brother look to them. They all like old school hip hop, house, and EDM. All of them are either poets, writers, actors, musicians, artists, fashion designers, models etc. None of them are trying to do the regular 9 - 5 grind. And those are the girls I found were most receptive to me.

As far as getting dressed up. The best analogy I could think of is how would one feel wearing a blazer with a pocket square and expensive shirt, slacks and boots to hippie festival in a park. I dont know about you but I would feel out of place. Here is another example. The Airbnb I stayed at did not have a iron. I called the host and asked her where the iron was. Her response was "You dont need and Iron this is Berlin!" I am not kidding she was not trying to funny she was serious! FYI she is in her early twenties and a solid 7. Most of the clubs I went to everyone was really dressed down. I am talking no name plain t shirt, no name jeans and no name sneakers. With the exception of a few people I saw and when I went to Bricks. I was the only one wearing brand name stuff. Even when I went to Bricks which is an upscale club and I decided to wear a blazer. I felt waaaaay overdressed. Dont get me wrong people were dressed a lot nicer, just not as nice as I was expecting.

Berliner are weird in the sense they all like to dress poor per se but very eclectic\eccentric. The thing I like the most is that the girls were down to earth. They did not seem to sweat money anywhere near as much as girls in the states. Even the insanely hot ones! I got the impression to get a 7 or even a 8 you really did not have to have much going on financially. As long as you had your own place and can pay your bills and had some money to hang out on the weekends you would be good.

Anyone here refuse to go to clubs where you get patted down at the entrance? Its usually a bad signal to me if they feel the need to pat down their customers. I'm not going to sacrifice my dignity for that. Unfortunately, its hard to find a majority black club in DC that doesn't pat down.

(09-23-2016 08:41 PM)Ogunn Wrote:  As far as getting dressed up. The best analogy I could think of is how would one feel wearing a blazer with a pocket square and expensive shirt, slacks and boots to hippie festival in a park. I dont know about you but I would feel out of place. Here is another example. The Airbnb I stayed at did not have a iron. I called the host and asked her where the iron was. Her response was "You dont need and Iron this is Berlin!" I am not kidding she was not trying to funny she was serious! FYI she is in her early twenties and a solid 7. Most of the clubs I went to everyone was really dressed down. I am talking no name plain t shirt, no name jeans and no name sneakers. With the exception of a few people I saw and when I went to Bricks. I was the only one wearing brand name stuff. Even when I went to Bricks which is an upscale club and I decided to wear a blazer. I felt waaaaay overdressed. Dont get me wrong people were dressed a lot nicer, just not as nice as I was expecting.

Berliner are weird in the sense they all like to dress poor per se but very eclectic\eccentric. The thing I like the most is that the girls were down to earth. They did not seem to sweat money anywhere near as much as girls in the states. Even the insanely hot ones! I got the impression to get a 7 or even a 8 you really did not have to have much going on financially. As long as you had your own place and can pay your bills and had some money to hang out on the weekends you would be good.

I was already sold on Germany based on the chicks/tourists/exchange students I've met here.

This makes it sound even better.

When I think German Style, this is what I think



So i'd adapt to that by going for this



Meanwhile, I probably look like this when i'm not working

Ogunn

I think you hit the nail on the head with the description.

For those reasons I recommend brothers to go to BERLIN when they say they want to come to Germany. You get a little bit of everything and then you can decide if you want to try a more German city.

In my opinion that foreign influence + alternative way of thinking = profit for us.

Other cities are are NOT like that!


So in a turn of events I managed to land a German 8 - Yes the exact ones I was bitching about not getting in my earlier post. I couldn't believe it myself. She stared me down in the nightclub and with some game I managed to pass all the shit tests and even get over two instances of LMR.

Girls almost NEVER stare me down like that in a club or bar so I knew something funny had to be going on...

Upon future investigation a myriad of things came together for this anomaly to happen: (keep in my im mid 30s)

-Shes is a freshman in College
-Shes 20 years old
-Shes been in the city for 6 weeks
-She comes from a small village
-Her English is fluent as fuck and she even knows expressions.

and the biggest one

-SHE SPENT 1 YEAR in high school in America. Alabama to be exact.

These kinds of girls here are GOLD. I have had similar experiences with Ex-Aupairs here as well... When they have long term experience in America they are just so much more open to brothers. I asked her if she had dated a brother before and sure enough she said yes.

The average German girl or average 8 won't have these experiences, skills and influences which makes attracting them difficult. The constant German influence makes it difficult. Thus leading back to my original point that Berlin is going to be the best for us.

(09-25-2016 10:25 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Ogunn

I think you hit the nail on the head with the description.

For those reasons I recommend brothers to go to BERLIN when they say they want to come to Germany. You get a little bit of everything and then you can decide if you want to try a more German city.

In my opinion that foreign influence + alternative way of thinking = profit for us.

Other cities are are NOT like that!


So in a turn of events I managed to land a German 8 - Yes the exact ones I was bitching about not getting in my earlier post. I couldn't believe it myself. She stared me down in the nightclub and with some game I managed to pass all the shit tests and even get over two instances of LMR.

Girls almost NEVER stare me down like that in a club or bar so I knew something funny had to be going on...

Upon future investigation a myriad of things came together for this anomaly to happen: (keep in my im mid 30s)

-Shes is a freshman in College
-Shes 20 years old
-Shes been in the city for 6 weeks
-She comes from a small village
-Her English is fluent as fuck and she even knows expressions.

and the biggest one

-SHE SPENT 1 YEAR in high school in America. Alabama to be exact.

These kinds of girls here are GOLD. I have had similar experiences with Ex-Aupairs here as well... When they have long term experience in America they are just so much more open to brothers. I asked her if she had dated a brother before and sure enough she said yes.

The average German girl or average 8 won't have these experiences, skills and influences which makes attracting them difficult. The constant German influence makes it difficult. Thus leading back to my original point that Berlin is going to be the best for us.

Kirdiesel that was my experience as well. The ethinc Germans that have been abroad seem to be easier to game. Or maybe they are just more comfortable being cold approached.

an EXTENDED stay abroad (6 months or so) is key here. Preferably America too!

It really seems to play a role in how they react to you.

I took a chick to brunch yesterday that I'd been conversing with back n forth.

I'm fully aware of and normally advocate the conventional wisdom of inviting chicks to financially neutral joints to avoid expectations, but since I invited her and she was new in town I didn't mind springing for brunch at all.

Long story short, chick didn't say thank you, which though seemingly petty, is essentially a deal breaker for me.

Even if had we done something financially neutral, it would've took longer to discover her ungratefulness, so I see it as a investment in saving my time.

Anyone else can't tolerate chicks who don't offer to pay or express gratitude?

@Dime

She didn't "thank" you later?

Seems like there is more to the story

WIA

(09-26-2016 01:45 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @Dime

She didn't "thank" you later?

Seems like there is more to the story

WIA

Unless you consider "thank you for hanging out" after I dropped her off to be sufficient, which I don't.
Overall, she was a nice gal, but a chic (anyone really) who doesn't specifically acknowledge my generosity just rubs me the wrong way.

I dunno, maybe I'm picky, but I personally go out of my way to make sure someone knows I'm grateful for things they do for me and haphazardly expect the same.

This is leaning towards a date,a gameless encounter.

*clutches pimp cup*

WIA

Lol, @WIA, man cut it out. I'm in a cohabitating LTR, I gotta get in where I fit in.

Ha, word. Got to keep things above board!

WIA

(09-26-2016 12:26 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  I took a chick to brunch yesterday that I'd been conversing with back n forth.

I'm fully aware of and normally advocate the conventional wisdom of inviting chicks to financially neutral joints to avoid expectations, but since I invited her and she was new in town I didn't mind springing for brunch at all.

Long story short, chick didn't say thank you, which though seemingly petty, is essentially a deal breaker for me.

Even if had we done something financially neutral, it would've took longer to discover her ungratefulness, so I see it as a investment in saving my time.

Anyone else can't tolerate chicks who don't offer to pay or express gratitude?

I've had a similar experience. I usually go for the we're splitting this meal unless i've previously fucked or I know the chick is legitimately poor and I invited her out to a place outside her means. That's why always on the first real date it's either starbucks or sushi. If a bitch can't afford a $8 meal then there are bigger problems at play here.

-CD

Just pay for the damn drink.

After the date, the girl can express gratitude by opening her legs.

(09-26-2016 05:29 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 12:26 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  I took a chick to brunch yesterday that I'd been conversing with back n forth.

I'm fully aware of and normally advocate the conventional wisdom of inviting chicks to financially neutral joints to avoid expectations, but since I invited her and she was new in town I didn't mind springing for brunch at all.

Long story short, chick didn't say thank you, which though seemingly petty, is essentially a deal breaker for me.

Even if had we done something financially neutral, it would've took longer to discover her ungratefulness, so I see it as a investment in saving my time.

Anyone else can't tolerate chicks who don't offer to pay or express gratitude?

I've had a similar experience. I usually go for the we're splitting this meal unless i've previously fucked or I know the chick is legitimately poor and I invited her out to a place outside her means. That's why always on the first real date it's either starbucks or sushi. If a bitch can't afford a $8 meal then there are bigger problems at play here.

-CD

Do you find that splitting the bill at the outset has a negative effect on whether you smash or not?

I charge it to the game. But like it has been posted before, it's best to not go for expensive outings. I've run into too many lizards like the OP has, ones who expect you to pay and say nothing of it.

(09-27-2016 07:34 PM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 05:29 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 12:26 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  I took a chick to brunch yesterday that I'd been conversing with back n forth.

I'm fully aware of and normally advocate the conventional wisdom of inviting chicks to financially neutral joints to avoid expectations, but since I invited her and she was new in town I didn't mind springing for brunch at all.

Long story short, chick didn't say thank you, which though seemingly petty, is essentially a deal breaker for me.

Even if had we done something financially neutral, it would've took longer to discover her ungratefulness, so I see it as a investment in saving my time.

Anyone else can't tolerate chicks who don't offer to pay or express gratitude?

I've had a similar experience. I usually go for the we're splitting this meal unless i've previously fucked or I know the chick is legitimately poor and I invited her out to a place outside her means. That's why always on the first real date it's either starbucks or sushi. If a bitch can't afford a $8 meal then there are bigger problems at play here.

-CD

Do you find that splitting the bill at the outset has a negative effect on whether you smash or not?

Just came from a cheap date last night, she paid. I don't find it does, except with sistas. Even then, I run standard asshole game anyway so it's kind of expected at that point. I don't believe in the just "fuck it and pay." If she likes the game she likes the game, paying for her own meal won't turn her into "was going to ride him, but now I'll block him."

-CD

(09-28-2016 05:26 AM)coverdoc Wrote:  

(09-27-2016 07:34 PM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 05:29 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

(09-26-2016 12:26 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  I took a chick to brunch yesterday that I'd been conversing with back n forth.

I'm fully aware of and normally advocate the conventional wisdom of inviting chicks to financially neutral joints to avoid expectations, but since I invited her and she was new in town I didn't mind springing for brunch at all.

Long story short, chick didn't say thank you, which though seemingly petty, is essentially a deal breaker for me.

Even if had we done something financially neutral, it would've took longer to discover her ungratefulness, so I see it as a investment in saving my time.

Anyone else can't tolerate chicks who don't offer to pay or express gratitude?

I've had a similar experience. I usually go for the we're splitting this meal unless i've previously fucked or I know the chick is legitimately poor and I invited her out to a place outside her means. That's why always on the first real date it's either starbucks or sushi. If a bitch can't afford a $8 meal then there are bigger problems at play here.

-CD

Do you find that splitting the bill at the outset has a negative effect on whether you smash or not?

Just came from a cheap date last night, she paid. I don't find it does, except with sistas. Even then, I run standard asshole game anyway so it's kind of expected at that point. I don't believe in the just "fuck it and pay." If she likes the game she likes the game, paying for her own meal won't turn her into "was going to ride him, but now I'll block him."

-CD

Maybe I am just old fashioned. If I invite a girl out I always pay. If a girl insist on paying that will turn me off. I will take that as a huge sign of disinterest (and that I am wasting my time) and probably end the date right there.

Keep in mind the most expensive thing I will invite her out to is sushi. Then to a lounge for drinks and dancing where I will make her buy some rounds of drinks.

So no appetizers? LOL

(09-23-2016 09:35 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  What are you doing with your life other than working and trying to bang more chicks?

I've recently come to think of this as "true" lifestyle game.

If you were a musician, you could invite the chick to come jam with you.

If you were on a bowling team...

If you were into cooking...

This is definitely critical for LTR evaluation purposes, does she fit into your life? Can she assist or is she a burden?

WIA

Sounds like you're talking about having a vision.

This strikes a chord in my heart because I'm trying to find that lifestyle.

Do any of y'all read this blog called Danger and Play? The homie Mike Cernovich has an hour long video where he summarizes one of his books called "Gorilla Mindset".





Game Summary: Do things that you find cool, and bring a girl with you.

For me, that means learning how to cook Nigerian food. I've spent some nice evenings with my mom and pop learning about their lives, and it all started with me asking them how to make some okra soup, some stew, some egusi...

And when i'm in the grocery store looking for the ingredients, I already have something to talk about with a girl. So it's easier to approach now that I have that "expertise" in the kitchen.

I used to play a lot of Pokemon and read shonen manga/watch anime. Naruto, One Piece, Dragon Ball Z, that kind of stuff.

My cousins and I would pretend we were Goku and jump on our trampoline and fight. It was awesome.

After some introspection, I realized that I loved the sense of adventure and dominance that those stories had.

Pokemon allowed me to travel through forests and cities looking at monsters. And all Shonen manga have the same story arc of becoming a better fighter through self-discipline.

How can I bring those qualities into my every day life? In a way that I enjoy?

I think these are the kinds of questions we should be asking ourselves. Cuz then you have direction (a direction that you choose), and then like WIA was saying, a girl will follow you if you're "that dude" for her.

For me, it means trying out some new activities. After I settle into my apartment this weekend, I'm checking out two martial arts gyms and a rock climbing gym. Eventually I'll get into parkour so that I can have adventures whenever I want.

And who knows, perhaps there'll be a little cutie at the dojo. Or maybe I'll see one as I'm riding the bus to the dojo. I know I'll see a least a couple while I'm at the grocery store...

But my point is that the actions I take aren't for the girls anymore.

They're for me. Well, really, the kid inside of me. The playful little rascal that I am deep down.

Wonder why they call it game...

- Basket

To add on


" a direction that you choose), and then like WIA was saying, a girl will follow you if you're "that dude" for her. "

A chick can jump on things that she thinks are cool, but she'll dive headfirst into things because of her man. Then she might like them of her own accord later on.

I've said this before, but if all you're doing is just dicking these chicks, you're leaving money on the table.

Most chicks i date are slaving away for some corporate dick that doesn't give a fuck about them. What if I could tap into that drive, energy, and education? Have her do something for me?

You see how devoted she is to the job....

When I bring points like that up, I'm hoping other cats have ideas on how to maximize talent.

WIA