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Cogon · 2016-08-28 15:35:00 · #3876
(08-28-2016 09:42 AM)dispenser Wrote:  @Cogon
I would guess that they don't have a perfect aspect in Tagalog or other native languages.
"I have been working" is present tense, but also perfect in aspect, implying work has been completed near the present.
Without understanding the perfect aspect (have done, have been, have written, etc.) they might see the plain past tense as the way to imply work has been completed.
"Have been stayed" sounds like an attempt to use the perfect, but still confusing it with the plain past tense.

Lol its a bit confusing. But I suspect that the common mistake has to do with some tagalog rule being carried over and affecting current tense and making it past tense. Again, I hardly even notice much of the mistakes other than this particular English error. If I even learned taglog, maybe I would pick up on how their grammar affects this subject in English. Somehow, I always felt inclined to not learn this language and always use English here.
Cogon · 2016-08-28 15:37:00 · #3877
(08-28-2016 02:39 PM)dispenser Wrote:  Can anyone recommend a rental resource for Davao?

Or anywhere in the Phils, for that matter. Sites like Olx seem to be geared to people who want to buy, not rent.

olx is now the only site and is even a merger of what used to be the second major site. It DOES have all the rents on it. I will look on it and bet that is where I will find the rents even for Davao.

It indeed has a very small amount for Davao but for the rest it is loaded with rents. Seems you are also looking outside Davao so as for "Or anywhere in the Phils, for that matter" use olx still. All my rents I want and find are on there. Im still unsure about Davao. You have to google Davao but olx has you covered outside of it.
Angel123 · 2016-08-30 04:59:00 · #3878
I would like to say that all the members had shared really nice information about Philippines. It is a really beautiful destination in the map of the world. I have visited this destination many times and also explore the attraction of this place. Al the attractions are mind-blowing there.
rcraig33hb · 2016-09-01 08:08:00 · #3879
Hey Guys,

I have a question for those who frequently rent condos or apartments in Philippines for a short period (1 month).

I have experience using platforms like Trip Advisor, Booking.com & AirBnb for property rentals. I have not had issues with getting my deposits back since I used trusted sites. I have rented for only 1 month terms.

I have a location in Davao, a NEW condo property. The price for 1 month is 50k plus utilities (estimate from the owner: water at 2k, cable at 600php & electricity at 8k) and a 35K deposit. The other option was 65K for 1 month including utilities plus the 35K deposit.

This place is listed on 4 websites and priced higher so we were able to bring the price down BUT it would be a direct transaction "offline". So I would pay the rent and deposit by cash upon arrival OR transfer it to his back account prior to arriving.

My question to the group and a bit of concern is the manner in which I would get my deposit back. The owner mentions it would be returned a month after, that is fine. But, he mentions transferring it to my bank account. I would be back in Canada by then.

What is the best option to structure a deposit return? I don't want to set up an escrow. I thought of Western Union as well. Plus I assume one of us would have to pay a transaction fee regardless of the options we choose, even if he sends it to my Canadian back account.

Any thoughts on best approach?

Thanks
Onto · 2016-09-01 08:10:00 · #3880
In Manila now. 2 nice bangs in the 2 days I've been here. Today's was just fantastic. They are just pipe-lined girls from FC, but I would like to up the quality to business girls in suits.

I'm about 15 lbs fatter than I was 2 years ago and doing 15x times better than I had before. Experience really makes all the difference the second time around.

The first girl had just gotten her period and there's dried blood all over the white sheets and comforter. There is a washing machine in my condo so I thought about using bleach and soap, but also thought about just taking it all to the cleaners. Anyone have experience with this?

Also security never asked me to check in the girls I brought. Very nice of them, thinking I should bring them some donuts tomorrow morning.
rcraig33hb · 2016-09-01 08:17:00 · #3881
(09-01-2016 08:10 AM)Onto Wrote:  In Manila now. 2 nice bangs in the 2 days I've been here. Today's was just fantastic. They are just pipe-lined girls from FC, but I would like to up the quality to business girls in suits.

I'm about 15 lbs fatter than I was 2 years ago and doing 15x times better than I had before. Experience really makes all the difference the second time around.

The first girl had just gotten her period and there's dried blood all over the white sheets and comforter. There is a washing machine in my condo so I thought about using bleach and soap, but also thought about just taking it all to the cleaners. Anyone have experience with this?

Also security never asked me to check in the girls I brought. Very nice of them, thinking I should bring them some donuts tomorrow morning.

Welcome back brother! I will see you next month!
Windom Earle · 2016-09-01 08:59:00 · #3882
(09-01-2016 08:10 AM)Onto Wrote:  The first girl had just gotten her period and there's dried blood all over the white sheets and comforter. There is a washing machine in my condo so I thought about using bleach and soap, but also thought about just taking it all to the cleaners. Anyone have experience with this?

This happened to me in Cebu, however it was actual blood, not menstrual fluid (went in a bit too fiercely). There was mention of a fine for stained sheets in the condo manual, so I didn't want to take any chances. Took them to a laundry business and explained to an unusually gruff older pinay what I was up against (maybe she was thinking what if it was her daughter?). Glad I did, they came out perfectly clean.
iknowexactly · 2016-09-01 10:05:00 · #3883
(09-01-2016 08:08 AM)rcraig33hb Wrote:  Hey Guys,

I have a question for those who frequently rent condos or apartments in Philippines for a short period (1 month).

I have a location in Davao, a NEW condo property. The price for 1 month is 50k plus utilities (estimate from the owner: water at 2k, cable at 600php & electricity at 8k) and a 35K deposit.


My question to the group and a bit of concern is the manner in which I would get my deposit back.

What is the best option to structure a deposit return? I don't want to set up an escrow. I thought of Western Union as well. Plus I assume one of us would have to pay a transaction fee regardless of the options we choose, even if he sends it to my Canadian back account.

Any thoughts on best approach?

Thanks

I pushed for day of move out, some of them agreed. They can obviously walk in and see if you smashed things.
Do you know where you can find him, does he have some business somewhere you go to pick up the money?
They're hoping to pay your deposit back with the money form the next person. It's how people get to be landlords.

If the person has good reviews on Air BNB maybe trust them, otherwise, all he has to do to keep $700 , three months pay for a laborer, is not return your calls.

I talked to real estate agents about this , they said quote "MOST landlords are honest." but you could tell some significant minority aren't.

There's no good answer unless you personally know someone who can vouch for their honesty. Maybe ask for a reference? Is $750 a huge hit if he's a crook? I have also thought of asking personal information, emphasizing I MUST get my deposit back. Ask him what happens if he has problems, if he can't easily refund the deposit. See if he gets real anxious. Ask exactly how he would wire the money back, see if he has a real, detailed , sequential plan. Did he ever do it before? 50K is a LOT, it's $1000. Ask about his business, see if he's evasive.

Another idea, if he doesn't want to refund day of move-out, ask to visit his bank with him and the two of you together talk to a bank rep about how he is going to wire your money back. Watch how he acts at that meeting. Mostly fear because he knows he's not going to do it? Or curiosity about how he needs to go about it?

'Another idea lol, mention you could have a friend pick it up if it's easier. A friend that will come visit him.
iknowexactly · 2016-09-01 10:20:00 · #3884
(08-21-2016 06:12 PM)RichieP Wrote:  
(08-19-2016 09:12 PM)erikak Wrote:  Who's the bigger idiot? The guy that lavishes girls with gifts? Or the guy who doesn't because he can't figure out a way to make more money? If a guy has cash, he will spend at least some of it on girls.

Sadly, Filipinas are catching onto our games as well, just like the girls in China did, the girls in EE, Brazil. Enjoy it while it lasts, they are already changing.

The more actual game he has --> less of an idiot
More "gifts" in order to indrectly buy love, sex or loyalty --> more of an idiot

It's just weak, and deep down girls resent guys who have to do it to keep them around.

(08-20-2016 03:16 PM)asdfk Wrote:  Then don't. There is 0 need to pay for anything when dating Filipinas. I rarely did. If you play it right (and don't fuck Barrio girls) they'll spend the money on you. Especially in Manila.

Yep exactly. Let them chase, work for you, and frame you as the prize. It actually increases their attraction, satisfaction and respect for you (assuming you don't have a "broke backpacker" vibe).

You have to be in the culture, know yourself, know the girl, and know the scams to see what your personal value system warrants. I don't really care whether RVF posters think I'm dumb.

I've taken at least two girls I wanted to keep sleeping with to the dentist because they had bad breath that was only going to get fixed by the dentist-- most working class girls can't afford to go if they're between jobs.

Yeah, you can be tough if you want. Girl needs a rotting tooth pulled? Hehe. Sure babe.

Let her jaw rot too(the next step from a tooth getting infected and the bacteria spreading) , then you're REAL tough.

I'm not "too smart" to fix her bad breath for 10-$15. (Extraction is highly used here.)
Asia has long been known to have situations that are more morally ambiguous than the wealthy countries.
In my opinion there is absolutely zero wrong or "beta" about helping a girl like that.

The other extreme is a girl who starts asking for load money the first contact you have with her. Almost certainly living parasitically off men.
rcraig33hb · 2016-09-01 11:12:00 · #3885
(09-01-2016 10:05 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  
(09-01-2016 08:08 AM)rcraig33hb Wrote:  Hey Guys,

I have a question for those who frequently rent condos or apartments in Philippines for a short period (1 month).

I have a location in Davao, a NEW condo property. The price for 1 month is 50k plus utilities (estimate from the owner: water at 2k, cable at 600php & electricity at 8k) and a 35K deposit.


My question to the group and a bit of concern is the manner in which I would get my deposit back.

What is the best option to structure a deposit return? I don't want to set up an escrow. I thought of Western Union as well. Plus I assume one of us would have to pay a transaction fee regardless of the options we choose, even if he sends it to my Canadian back account.

Any thoughts on best approach?

Thanks

I pushed for day of move out, some of them agreed. They can obviously walk in and see if you smashed things.
Do you know where you can find him, does he have some business somewhere you go to pick up the money?
They're hoping to pay your deposit back with the money form the next person. It's how people get to be landlords.

If the person has good reviews on Air BNB maybe trust them, otherwise, all he has to do to keep $700 , three months pay for a laborer, is not return your calls.

I talked to real estate agents about this , they said quote "MOST landlords are honest." but you could tell some significant minority aren't.

There's no good answer unless you personally know someone who can vouch for their honesty. Maybe ask for a reference? Is $750 a huge hit if he's a crook? I have also thought of asking personal information, emphasizing I MUST get my deposit back. Ask him what happens if he has problems, if he can't easily refund the deposit. See if he gets real anxious. Ask exactly how he would wire the money back, see if he has a real, detailed , sequential plan. Did he ever do it before? 50K is a LOT, it's $1000. Ask about his business, see if he's evasive.

Another idea, if he doesn't want to refund day of move-out, ask to visit his bank with him and the two of you together talk to a bank rep about how he is going to wire your money back. Watch how he acts at that meeting. Mostly fear because he knows he's not going to do it? Or curiosity about how he needs to go about it?

'Another idea lol, mention you could have a friend pick it up if it's easier. A friend that will come visit him.

Thanks IKE!

Based on your notes, I did a quick look on Airbnb. The landlord lives in Amsterdam. he has 7 reviews (1 as a host - same place I am looking at, and 6 as a guest in 6 different countries). All his reviews were positive! All 6 hosts said good things about him. The 1 guest he had said positive things as well. He uses a broker in Davao and the one guest that met her, had good things to say about her.

I will try the "return deposit on checkout" and see if that flies. If not, I will find a way to set up the money wire after the 1 month is up.

I guess these are the risks we take going outside the websites like Airbnb or Trip Advisor (has Payment Protection for both parties) to save money.
erikak · 2016-09-01 12:41:00 · #3886
@iknowexactly, great post. You pretty much said what I've been wanting to say.
aeroektar · 2016-09-01 14:55:00 · #3887
Speaking of dentists, are costs significantly lower then the US for things like crowns and root canals? Anyone got a dentist they can recommend in metro Manila, Cebu, Davao?
deneuk · 2016-09-02 04:11:00 · #3888
(09-01-2016 08:08 AM)rcraig33hb Wrote:  Hey Guys,

I have a question for those who frequently rent condos or apartments in Philippines for a short period (1 month).

I have experience using platforms like Trip Advisor, Booking.com & AirBnb for property rentals. I have not had issues with getting my deposits back since I used trusted sites. I have rented for only 1 month terms.

I have a location in Davao, a NEW condo property. The price for 1 month is 50k plus utilities (estimate from the owner: water at 2k, cable at 600php & electricity at 8k) and a 35K deposit. The other option was 65K for 1 month including utilities plus the 35K deposit.

This place is listed on 4 websites and priced higher so we were able to bring the price down BUT it would be a direct transaction "offline". So I would pay the rent and deposit by cash upon arrival OR transfer it to his back account prior to arriving.

My question to the group and a bit of concern is the manner in which I would get my deposit back. The owner mentions it would be returned a month after, that is fine. But, he mentions transferring it to my bank account. I would be back in Canada by then.

What is the best option to structure a deposit return? I don't want to set up an escrow. I thought of Western Union as well. Plus I assume one of us would have to pay a transaction fee regardless of the options we choose, even if he sends it to my Canadian back account.

Any thoughts on best approach?

Thanks

Haha, even if you shower 3 times everyday your water bill won't be over 150p a month. For electricity, having 1 ac unit running for about 12 hours, a day and my electric bill never went over 3K. He's trying to make some extra cash on your utilities man, ask for the original receipts from davao light so that he can't rip you off.

Edit: This whole thing just smells of scam tbh, 6 different properties in 6 different countries that all have 1 review? Sounds a bit odd right? Then there's the thing about the deposit that makes no sense at all, it's a deposit he's supposed to keep it with him in case you damage something or you can't pay your bills. Not keep it for a month after you've left his property already.

Last place I rented in Davao was managed by some broker also, did get the deal directly through the owner tho. So transferred money directly into his personal bank account. Since he was abroad I asked if the broker could pay my deposit back cash in hand 1 day before check out, this was no problem at all.
rhr · 2016-09-02 10:44:00 · #3889
Bomb explosion in Davao. 21 dead so far. Will keep updated. Sept 02
rcraig33hb · 2016-09-02 10:51:00 · #3890
(09-02-2016 10:44 AM)rhr Wrote:  Bomb explosion in Davao. 21 dead so far. Will keep updated. Sept 02

That is insane! Thanks for posting this.
rhr · 2016-09-02 11:09:00 · #3891
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/579...dy-on-site

Quote:At least 25 people were reported dead when an explosion hit a night market on Davao City's Roxas Street Friday night.
C/Insp. Milgrace Driz of the Davao City Police reported at least 25 casualties at the Southern Philippines Medical Center.
"We are now locking down Davao City with checkpoints," she told GMA News Online.
President Rodrigo Duterte, the former mayor of the city, was already at the site of the blast, according to Presidential Spokesman Ernesto Abella.







The explosion has prompted the administration of Ateneo de Davao to impose a lockdown on the campus, which is across the street from the night market.
Duterte was in the city after attending an event at nearby Panabo City on Friday.
The blast comes after the national police force thwarted a reported assassination plot against Duterte, who usually flies home to Davao City every weekend. — JST, GMA News
- See more at: http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/579...3C6kL.dpuf


(09-02-2016 10:51 AM)rcraig33hb Wrote:  
(09-02-2016 10:44 AM)rhr Wrote:  Bomb explosion in Davao. 21 dead so far. Will keep updated. Sept 02

That is insane! Thanks for posting this.

Hey man long time no hear! I'm still here in Dvo with my girl hope we can hang out again soon Big Grin
rcraig33hb · 2016-09-02 11:24:00 · #3892
Oh Shit, that's right next to Marco Polo.

Yeah, will be there soon. We'll grab a few beers!
Going strong · 2016-09-02 11:28:00 · #3893
Globalists (or Mindanao-Islamists, but, considering that Islamists are the current favorite pawns of the Globalists, it amounts to the same...) already trying to kill president Duterte!?
rhr · 2016-09-02 11:30:00 · #3894
Another explosion reported near (or in) eccoland. Cannot confirm or deny. Will keep posted if I can still get online
Going strong · 2016-09-02 11:42:00 · #3895
(09-02-2016 11:30 AM)rhr Wrote:  Another explosion reported near (or in) eccoland. Cannot confirm or deny. Will keep posted if I can still get online

Keep safe, gwapo!

Duterte will not bow to terrorists and globalists, let's remain optimistic about the future of the Philippines. They are in strong hands.

Anyway, I foresee a quick and energetic (military) reply by Duterte. We'll see.
Enigma · 2016-09-02 11:54:00 · #3896
(09-02-2016 11:42 AM)Going strong Wrote:  Anyway, I foresee a quick and energetic (military) reply by Duterte. We'll see.

He recently declared that he will completely wipe out Abu Sayyaf, the extremist group with ties to ISIS, and committed nearly 10,000 troops to the islands where they base themselves.

This is likely a retaliation/desperation move by them.

The Muslim rebel groups are much larger and operate in a larger area, but the extremist offshoot is fairly small.
rhr · 2016-09-02 12:13:00 · #3897
(09-02-2016 11:30 AM)rhr Wrote:  Another explosion reported near (or in) eccoland. Cannot confirm or deny. Will keep posted if I can still get online

Seems to be false alert. One confirmed explosion so far. I have a friend (girl) who lives near the site of the incident. We tried to contact her so far without success. I hope she is ok. Will keep reported


UPDATE: she's ok!
RawGod · 2016-09-02 12:14:00 · #3898
(09-02-2016 11:30 AM)rhr Wrote:  Another explosion reported near (or in) eccoland. Cannot confirm or deny. Will keep posted if I can still get online

False report. As I'm in Ecoland and was walking down the street at the time of the Roxas blast, I'm glad of that. Not sure where I'll go to get food over the weekend as the nearby places are all potential targets.
erikak · 2016-09-02 12:15:00 · #3899
Thanks for the link. I'll pass on Davao... Luzon's treating me nice enough anyway

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Going strong · 2016-09-02 13:02:00 · #3900
(09-02-2016 12:15 PM)erikak Wrote:  Thanks for the link. I'll pass on Davao... Luzon's treating me nice enough anyway

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A solid 8 in my book! Well done!
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