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Given that D. Trump likes risky, bold strategies, he could go after the (illegitimate) so-called Pope, Bergoglio.

Believe me, many, many Catholic people have lost trust in this current Bergoglio Pope, whom we consider illegitimate. He's (Bergoglio) obviously a marxist plant, a crazy SJW, and an opportunist (considering how he made peace with his former enemy, she-devil CFK).

As a French catholic, I myself feel the historic right of disavowing any pope who becomes a communist SJW. We French did just that in the past: as the "Elder Sister of the Church", France has always had the right to revoke Vatican popes, and name its own Popes (in Avignon city). I think time has come to do just that, we catholic people. We have to disavow Bergoglio (who, let me remind you, sent 2 Jesuits to their flight-over-the-delta deaths, in his troubled youth), and name a new, Conservative pope - or recall the legitimate Pope, Benedikt.

Anyway, Trump could claim his respect for the catholic faith, but note that an impostor has taken power in the Vatican, and this impostor is disliked by most European catholic people... Trump could also point that the true pope is actually Conservative German Benedict, absolutely not Bergoglio. For Bergoglio cannot be pope while the first, genuine pope is still alive.

In any case, let me remind you that one can legally call his holiness Benedikt, the Pope, because even though SJWs forced him under duress to "resign" (non-sense, and sacrilege even: a pope cannot resign!), he still maintains the right to the title of "Pope". So, technically, he (Benedikt) is the Pope. Bergoglio might also use (when he's not busy reading Marx or talking non-sense about Lampedusa, what does he know about Africa, as an Argentinian?) the title Pope, but Benedikt has not lost this title...
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Part of it is that the churches themselves are cucking hard. Apparently Trump saying mean things is worse than a candidate who....you know....is LITERALLY moving us towards World War 3.

Look into the Soros leaks and you know why.


Good news is its not all bad. The priest last night made a remark about "hateful language in politics" anf I muttered something about how that is just so much worse than having everyone around you dying mysteriously. The waspy lady next to me overheard and reacted with vigorous agreement.
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Well I don't know about your cucked ass Churches but Hillary is pretty much loathed by everyone in my Orthodox churches. Smile My preist's wife went to a Trump rally in Penn and has become a huge fan!

I'm telling you guys, Orthodox Churches are pretty much the only consistent option for great churches nowadays.

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(08-29-2016 01:54 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Well I don't know about your cucked ass Churches but Hillary is pretty much loathed by everyone in my Orthodox churches. Smile My preist's wife went to a Trump rally in Penn and has become a huge fan!

I'm telling you guys, Orthodox Churches are pretty much the only consistent option for great churches nowadays.

Samseau, somewhat off topic, but are you one of those people who think Christianity is largely a Euro-centric religion?
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(08-29-2016 01:54 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Well I don't know about your cucked ass Churches but Hillary is pretty much loathed by everyone in my Orthodox churches. Smile My preist's wife went to a Trump rally in Penn and has become a huge fan!

I'm telling you guys, Orthodox Churches are pretty much the only consistent option for great churches nowadays.

As a French catholic, I have, sadly, to reckon that you are right. Catholic church is on its (SJW-engineered) deathbed.

I myself stand ready to convert to Orthodoxy, when needed... Meanwhile, I from times to times go to Orthodox churches to pray, which I am allowed to do, considering that his holiness Benedikt declared Orthodox churches as "true churches", from a catholic point of view.

By the way, it is possible that Pope Benedikt was sabotaged because he was getting too close to reuniting Orthodoxy and true conservative Catholicism.

"On April 20, 2005, the newly elected Pope Benedict XVI gave his first message at the end of a Mass he had concelebrated with the members of the College of Cardinals in the Sistine Chapel. He signaled his mission in these words: "Nourished and sustained by the Eucharist, Catholics cannot but feel encouraged to strive for the full unity for which Christ expressed so ardent a hope in the Upper Room.

"With full awareness, therefore, at the beginning of his ministry in the Church of Rome which Peter bathed in his blood, Peter's current Successor takes on as his primary task the duty to work tirelessly to rebuild the full and visible unity of all Christ's followers. This is his ambition, his impelling duty."

The mission of restoring the full and visible unity of the Church was at the heart of Benedict's papacy. He made Church history, when Motu Propio, he released the Apostolic Constitution on Groups of Anglicans which began the healing of the divided Western Church.

Benedict XVI earned the great respect of Patriarchs and leaders of the Orthodox Church throughout his service in the Chair of Peter. I believe he was making progress toward some form of communion between Eastern and Western Christianity which can make the Third Millennium a millennium of communion and bring an end to the disunion of the second millennium. It remains his unfinished legacy"
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I stopped going to Church years ago when I discovered pussy and realized I had to get married to have sex or I was going to hell. If I ever have kids I would let my non-wide decide and go along, provided she was checking all the dutiful woman boxes.
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(08-28-2016 10:54 PM)Samseau Wrote:  
(08-28-2016 10:45 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  
(08-28-2016 10:34 PM)Samseau Wrote:  The good news is that the Catholic Church is losing it's White productive members rapidly. Pretty much all of it's new membership is third-world and will not be able to fill the Vatican's coffers to spread faggotry for much longer.

From my experience living in a third world Catholic country the way the Church makes up for this is worming its way into high level political influence. Separation of Church and state is largely a concept of western enlightenment which is alien to many of these other countries. This means the Catholic church can engage in graft and corruption at their leisure as long as they have sympathetic politicians in their pocket.

The Church has had a devastating influence on countries like the Philippines.

Good point. I noticed Philippines' latest Prez openly talks trash to the Catholic Church. Hopefully they'll have their Church of England moment soon. But I'm sure South America is exploited by the Catholics as well.

So this also means illegal immigration into the USA is profitable for the Catholic Church as well.

I really hate this Church, the end result is after people wise up to the Catholic scam they reject Christ altogether and throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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My wealthy Catholic grandmother loves the current pope, thinks Obama never ordered any drone strikes and deserved a second term, and believes Trump is evil... because CNN and her church told her so.

This demographic will be a tough nut to crack.
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(08-29-2016 04:52 PM)Going strong Wrote:  As a French catholic, I have, sadly, to reckon that you are right. Catholic church is on its (SJW-engineered) deathbed.

I myself stand ready to convert to Orthodoxy, when needed... Meanwhile, I from times to times go to Orthodox churches to pray, which I am allowed to do, considering that his holiness Benedikt declared Orthodox churches as "true churches", from a catholic point of view.

Why not go FSSP or something in the meantime? They're usually less pozzed.
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(08-29-2016 01:54 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Well I don't know about your cucked ass Churches but Hillary is pretty much loathed by everyone in my Orthodox churches. Smile My preist's wife went to a Trump rally in Penn and has become a huge fan!

I'm telling you guys, Orthodox Churches are pretty much the only consistent option for great churches nowadays.

It is clear that these will be the only ones that don't change, because they have been the only that have never changed. There will be, however, even an exodus of the people that labeled themselves as this (culturally) when the goings get tough, and I can even see leaders near the end times in the orthodox churches aligning with a sort of globalism when the true church is scattered, but remains very real (and of course with the remaining faithful headed by successors to the apostles).
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(08-30-2016 10:03 AM)iop890 Wrote:  
(08-29-2016 04:52 PM)Going strong Wrote:  As a French catholic, I have, sadly, to reckon that you are right. Catholic church is on its (SJW-engineered) deathbed.

I myself stand ready to convert to Orthodoxy, when needed... Meanwhile, I from times to times go to Orthodox churches to pray, which I am allowed to do, considering that his holiness Benedikt declared Orthodox churches as "true churches", from a catholic point of view.

Why not go FSSP or something in the meantime? They're usually less pozzed.

The Church in France is divided between modernist deserts and thriving traditionalist communities. If he lives in a hippy dippy diocese it can be pretty depressing. Where there are orthodox bishops the Church is thriving, where they try to conform to the secular society it's in a state of collapse.
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(08-28-2016 06:08 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  There is an extremely important article in today's Washington Post which ....

Dodgy

The Washington Post is a propaganda outlet funded by Jeff Bozos.

Washington Post... extremely important article.. tard I find that difficult to believe.

As other people have said most of Christianity has been throughly infiltrated by leftie ideas, so it is difficult to get Catholics and others on the Trump train.

Also Trump appeared inauthentic when trying to appeal to this group in Iowa before. Let's be honest, he doesn't really fool anyone pretending to be a hardcore Christian.

However, (!) you have come up with really good ideas to counter his image with this group. I particularly like criticising Hillary's abortion position. I had no idea about that.

It works, uses emotional persuasion, and paints her as the monstrous sociopath she is.

I think it's the best one and this needs to be spread around.

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Big endorsement from old Catholic newspaper yesterday.

http://thewandererpress.com/catholic/new...-election/

Quote:So, if enough people stick with #nevertrump and refuse to vote, all or most of the following will undoubtedly happen:
All law-abiding citizens will lose their guns, leaving them defenseless against well-armed thugs and criminals, who will certainly take advantage of the situation. This means that violent crime will skyrocket, and many more innocent people will be murdered.
The readiness of our military will continue to be degraded by liberal social experimentation, leading to rogue states becoming bolder and bolder in their aggressions.
The power of the Internal Revenue Service will continue to target and stifle the First Amendment rights of conservative groups, but with much greater intensity.
A government-guaranteed mandatory minimum income will be enforced, which would double our national debt from $22 trillion to more than $40 trillion in eight years, and will lead to millions more being unemployed and resorting to welfare.
Those who publicly express their doubt about global warming and climate change will be vigorously prosecuted under the federal racketeering (RICO) statutes.
Home-schooling will be banned, or at least made so burdensome that almost everyone will give up on it.
The United States will completely abandon Israel to the tender mercies of her bloodthirsty Islamic enemies, and Clinton will continue Obama’s incoherent and servile Middle East Policy, which directly encourages terrorism.
Obamacare will be expanded and strengthened to the point that the average family is paying more for its premiums than it is for its mortgage.
And Hillary Clinton’s cabinet will decide the outer limits of our freedom of conscience and whether or not we can worship God and raise our children as our consciences dictate.

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(08-29-2016 06:34 AM)Going strong Wrote:  Given that D. Trump likes risky, bold strategies, he could go after the (illegitimate) so-called Pope, Bergoglio.

Believe me, many, many Catholic people have lost trust in this current Bergoglio Pope, whom we consider illegitimate. He's (Bergoglio) obviously a marxist plant, a crazy SJW, and an opportunist (considering how he made peace with his former enemy, she-devil CFK).

As a French catholic, I myself feel the historic right of disavowing any pope who becomes a communist SJW. We French did just that in the past: as the "Elder Sister of the Church", France has always had the right to revoke Vatican popes, and name its own Popes (in Avignon city). I think time has come to do just that, we catholic people. We have to disavow Bergoglio (who, let me remind you, sent 2 Jesuits to their flight-over-the-delta deaths, in his troubled youth), and name a new, Conservative pope - or recall the legitimate Pope, Benedikt.

Anyway, Trump could claim his respect for the catholic faith, but note that an impostor has taken power in the Vatican, and this impostor is disliked by most European catholic people... Trump could also point that the true pope is actually Conservative German Benedict, absolutely not Bergoglio. For Bergoglio cannot be pope while the first, genuine pope is still alive.

In any case, let me remind you that one can legally call his holiness Benedikt, the Pope, because even though SJWs forced him under duress to "resign" (non-sense, and sacrilege even: a pope cannot resign!), he still maintains the right to the title of "Pope". So, technically, he (Benedikt) is the Pope. Bergoglio might also use (when he's not busy reading Marx or talking non-sense about Lampedusa, what does he know about Africa, as an Argentinian?) the title Pope, but Benedikt has not lost this title...

Amen, amen and amen!!!

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Interesting polling coming out of Rhode Island, which percentage wise, is the most Catholic state in the USA: The Donald is only behind The Hildebeast by 2%. Obama won the state by nearly 30% in 2012.

The last Republican POTUS nominee to win the state was Ronald Reagan in 1984.

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I don't understand how Catholics can be so blindly loyal to whatever pope makes it in.

This guy and his "walls and not bridges" (is that where Cuckerberg got it?) effectively called a previous pope (a SAINT no less) non-Christian since he ordered walls to he constructed around the Vatican.

Pope notably silent on Hillary in spite of being a war hawk and defending late term abortions. Current pope is SJW not Christian.
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