Moma and RudeBwoy RoundTable Discussion on Black Man Game Options
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(08-07-2016 06:13 PM)coverdoc Wrote: (08-07-2016 03:55 PM)kirdiesel Wrote: A guy I follow on Youtube just dropped a video about Africans and African Americans in Europe.
This is what I have been trying to tell you guys about. Its not as bad in Germany but like I have been saying.. This is one thing that makes it a slight uphill climb for African American guys here. When you walk into a spot or even try to get into a spot for that matter they will confuse you for an African.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSi-X6BjfZk
It never crossed my mind while I was living in Germany if someone would mistake me for an african vs African American. My bank account is pretty solid and my style spoke for itself. I will say that I tried to reach out to some of the younger african guys around my age and noticed over time it did appear that they harbored some jealousy and resentment towards me. Especially in terms of interacting with women. I think I was more saddened than anything to see that 99.9% of the outside drug dealers all over berlin were African guys.
(08-07-2016 04:04 PM)kirdiesel Wrote: (08-06-2016 06:40 PM)Iso Wrote: (08-06-2016 06:18 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: - Middle/upper class educated white people are the basic focus of this town that used to be majority black. So there are a lot of subtle things like 1) door policy, 2) not having "black" drinks like Hennessey, 3) No hip hop music.
Great post WIA. This insight right here makes a past experience I had make so much sense. I was in a bar in VA and an Asian friend of mine ordered Hennessy. The bartender said that they didn't have Hennessy. At the time, I didn't think much about it. But now, it all makes sense.
I've witnessed bars play "white" music so that they don't attract a black crowd. Typically it doesn't work that well. I've seen black guys on the dance floor dancing to top 40 pop hits and even rock music. The only DC bar I've been to that had no black men played Backstreet boys and Spice Girls.
This is one of the many tactics clubs use to dissuade blacks from coming to the club.
Don't forget the tight door policy.... No baggy pants, no hats, no hoodies, no sneakers, no boots. Lots of clothes typical blacks wear. Years ago I saw brothers get turned away from the door because their pants were too baggy.
Meh. It's no different than some of the black owned clubs down here in the south that don't allow hats, jerseys, white tees, baggy pants etc. I'm all for fighting the good fight, but sometimes things need to be called like how they are. It's not the brothers in 3 piece suit or a polo and khaki's starting shit and fucking things up. Night clubs live off reputation alone and if your club gets shot up or gets the reputation of unsafe or unfun then you, the owner, loses. Now once they start rejecting carlton Banks or GQ looking brothers then you can say it's something more.
-CD
Co-sign Coverdoc.
Any club that allows baseball hats, jerseys, white tees and baggy pants is a club I really don't want to be at. I don't care which country or city I'm in. A bar is one thing...they are supposed to be casual dress the majority of the time. But an actual nightclub? They need to have some kind of dress code, its a screening tool and a damn good one. Its better than a high cover because low class people can pool money together and pretend to be ballers for the night. But the Chief keefs, Cholos, shit kicking country boys, gang members, etc typically aren't keen to put on a pair of chinos, dress shoes and iron a button down shirt or polo that actually fits them. That shit is wack...corny...lame..gay...etc
Im not saying a guy in a three piece suit never threw down in a nightclub, but we are talking about probability and ambience. There was a time in my life when I rejected clubs with a tighter dress code and was subsequently rejected by those clubs. They were right to do so, I simply wasn't ready. It had nothing to do with race and it wasn't personal, they established a dress code and I could choose to comply or not. My issue is when a brotha or anyone comes correct and the door is still on some BS. I have experienced that as well and know the difference.
The tight dress code and high entrance fee isn't always enough to deter blacks, even for high end nightclubs.
Some time ago, there was come controversy surrounding a high end club in London called Distrikt. Bouncers and management were rejecting blacks solely on their race, regardless of if they were putting £££s on a table or not. They were (and probably still are) so popular they weren't even subtle about it.
Link to news article.
Quote:A London nightclub has denied operating a racist door policy after a protest by partygoers who claimed they were barred from entry for having dark skin.
The council that licenses the venue, Dstrkt, said it was concerned by the allegations and said anyone who had been affected should report their complaints to the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
Quote:The furore came to light after a clubber posted a series of text messages from a man she claimed was a promoter for the Leicester Square club. In them he allegedly wrote “black crowd is the concern” and intimated only she and her lighter-skinned friend would be allowed entry, but not two women in their group with darker skin.
Quote:Dstrkt said it had launched an investigation into the incident but found no evidence of racist behaviour by staff. “Comments made by external promoters to the women or in general have nothing to do with Dstrkt and aren’t deemed acceptable,” it said, adding that the women had been denied entry on Saturday because the club was fully booked.
Clubber Lin Mei, 29, alleged via a series of posted messages that she and another “mixed-race” friend had been told they would be allowed in the club but the promoter appeared to express doubts about her darker-skinned friends, saying black girls found it more difficult to gain entry.
(08-08-2016 03:50 AM)crudeloyalist Wrote: The tight dress code and high entrance fee isn't always enough to deter blacks, even for high end nightclubs.
Some time ago, there was come controversy surrounding a high end club in London called Distrikt. Bouncers and management were rejecting blacks solely on their race, regardless of if they were putting £££s on a table or not. They were (and probably still are) so popular they weren't even subtle about it.
Link to news article.
Quote:A London nightclub has denied operating a racist door policy after a protest by partygoers who claimed they were barred from entry for having dark skin.
The council that licenses the venue, Dstrkt, said it was concerned by the allegations and said anyone who had been affected should report their complaints to the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
Quote:The furore came to light after a clubber posted a series of text messages from a man she claimed was a promoter for the Leicester Square club. In them he allegedly wrote “black crowd is the concern” and intimated only she and her lighter-skinned friend would be allowed entry, but not two women in their group with darker skin.
Quote:Dstrkt said it had launched an investigation into the incident but found no evidence of racist behaviour by staff. “Comments made by external promoters to the women or in general have nothing to do with Dstrkt and aren’t deemed acceptable,” it said, adding that the women had been denied entry on Saturday because the club was fully booked.
Clubber Lin Mei, 29, alleged via a series of posted messages that she and another “mixed-race” friend had been told they would be allowed in the club but the promoter appeared to express doubts about her darker-skinned friends, saying black girls found it more difficult to gain entry.
As far as I remember about this story the racism was targeted at dark skin black women. The guys apparently dont see dark skinned women as pretty and don't want them in the club.. Only the light skinned or mixed women.
In a past life I worked as a promoter in NYC as well and can somewhat vouch for that. The doormen don't want too many black people or fat women in the clubs. Its just how it is.
Colorism will always be present outside and inside the Black community. Sometimes we can be our own worst enemy. That said, I've seen and experienced club discrimination first hand. "No chains & medallions" along with brand bans were prevalent in my clubbing days. I just stop patronizing establishments like that. When/If I go out nowadays, I'm wearing a blazer, oxford shirt, jeans and loafers. It's just how I dress now. However, I don't do clubs anymore. It's mostly alcohol and drug fueled game anyway. Give me a nice jazz/neo-soul type lounge and I'm in my element.
I'm a night life veteran.
You can often run game on the establishment, but I typically rarely enjoy myself in those places. I'd rather hear Dipset and not Diplo.
When I'm on those sort of white environs, it's a lot of "I'm a master of your world, but you know nothing about mine"
Last one I was at, somebody asked me whether i thought rappers were musicians.
The level of privilege and ignorance in that question took me out of my zone. And in Lily white scenarios, you have to be mindful of how much these folks want to kill your vibe, even though they do it without thinking about it.
Those bangs used to be worth it, no longer.
WIA
Fortunately, I completely missed nightlife/clubbing and got blessed with going to college. Pussy paradise. By far the easiest way to get laid by young "curious" chicks. "Jenny, you're not gonna believe what I did last night?!" "What?" "I had sex with a black guy!" That is my go to for Game. With black women (I got boyfriend zoned alot). In the real world, I put in the hard work to get to the gym 4 days a week, train MMA and run a little tech business.
Abe Lincoln may have freed the slaves but his quote about preparation: "If you give me 6 hours to chop down a tree, I would spend 4 hours sharpening the axe." is a good insight to Game...
I think an educated black man who is fit and isn't scared to put in the work to pay his dues is the most dangerous lover in the world hands down.
Am in Kiev right now...this place is ridiculous....I never want to leave...Thursday night I met a very fine sister from Nigeria...
she was pretty top talent and actually taught english. She was easily a 9...however in Kiev the competition is dressed to kill...
everyone wears high heels and so many long legged blond girls and high heels...it's an awesome place...I'm staying here for a month
Definitely a must to get serious about your business and finances so you can travel year round.
(08-08-2016 11:21 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: I'm a night life veteran.
You can often run game on the establishment, but I typically rarely enjoy myself in those places. I'd rather hear Dipset and not Diplo.
When I'm on those sort of white environs, it's a lot of "I'm a master of your world, but you know nothing about mine"
Last one I was at, somebody asked me whether i thought rappers were musicians.
The level of privilege and ignorance in that question took me out of my zone. And in Lily white scenarios, you have to be mindful of how much these folks want to kill your vibe, even though they do it without thinking about it.
Those bangs used to be worth it, no longer.
WIA
That pretty much sums up my transition back to my own world.
Lol, I cannot count how many times some patronizing YT dude came up to me with the "Whats up Bro" thinly veiled AMOG'ing attempt. GTFOutta my face with that bullshit. While you were buying Becky's drinks the whole night, I was banging her all morning, lol
(08-08-2016 11:32 AM)Apollo21 Wrote: Am in Kiev right now...this place is ridiculous....I never want to leave...Thursday night I met a very fine sister from Nigeria...
she was pretty top talent and actually taught english. She was easily a 9...however in Kiev the competition is dressed to kill...
everyone wears high heels and so many long legged blond girls and high heels...it's an awesome place...I'm staying here for a month
Definitely a must to get serious about your business and finances so you can travel year round.
Damn I gotta get my shit together. I can't believe ive been over in Germany for this long and haven't made it.
Moma · 2016-08-08 16:45:00 · #2935
(08-08-2016 11:32 AM)Apollo21 Wrote: Thursday night I met a very fine sister from Nigeria...
Did someone say Nigeria?? Bring me my wife ooooo!!
Brendan · 2016-08-09 04:01:00 · #2936
Finding this thread fascinating. Will try to read all of it all in my spare time.
I don't have a lot to contribute at the moment since I'm an inexperienced guy. I'm more focused on building the means to leave my mum's place to own my own atm. I'll be sure to drop any worthwhile knowledge I gain in the coming year or so.
jayesco · 2016-08-09 16:41:00 · #2937
(08-07-2016 09:33 PM)azulsombra Wrote: (08-07-2016 06:13 PM)coverdoc Wrote: (08-07-2016 03:55 PM)kirdiesel Wrote: A guy I follow on Youtube just dropped a video about Africans and African Americans in Europe.
This is what I have been trying to tell you guys about. Its not as bad in Germany but like I have been saying.. This is one thing that makes it a slight uphill climb for African American guys here. When you walk into a spot or even try to get into a spot for that matter they will confuse you for an African.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSi-X6BjfZk
It never crossed my mind while I was living in Germany if someone would mistake me for an african vs African American. My bank account is pretty solid and my style spoke for itself. I will say that I tried to reach out to some of the younger african guys around my age and noticed over time it did appear that they harbored some jealousy and resentment towards me. Especially in terms of interacting with women. I think I was more saddened than anything to see that 99.9% of the outside drug dealers all over berlin were African guys.
(08-07-2016 04:04 PM)kirdiesel Wrote: (08-06-2016 06:40 PM)Iso Wrote: (08-06-2016 06:18 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: - Middle/upper class educated white people are the basic focus of this town that used to be majority black. So there are a lot of subtle things like 1) door policy, 2) not having "black" drinks like Hennessey, 3) No hip hop music.
Great post WIA. This insight right here makes a past experience I had make so much sense. I was in a bar in VA and an Asian friend of mine ordered Hennessy. The bartender said that they didn't have Hennessy. At the time, I didn't think much about it. But now, it all makes sense.
I've witnessed bars play "white" music so that they don't attract a black crowd. Typically it doesn't work that well. I've seen black guys on the dance floor dancing to top 40 pop hits and even rock music. The only DC bar I've been to that had no black men played Backstreet boys and Spice Girls.
This is one of the many tactics clubs use to dissuade blacks from coming to the club.
Don't forget the tight door policy.... No baggy pants, no hats, no hoodies, no sneakers, no boots. Lots of clothes typical blacks wear. Years ago I saw brothers get turned away from the door because their pants were too baggy.
Meh. It's no different than some of the black owned clubs down here in the south that don't allow hats, jerseys, white tees, baggy pants etc. I'm all for fighting the good fight, but sometimes things need to be called like how they are. It's not the brothers in 3 piece suit or a polo and khaki's starting shit and fucking things up. Night clubs live off reputation alone and if your club gets shot up or gets the reputation of unsafe or unfun then you, the owner, loses. Now once they start rejecting carlton Banks or GQ looking brothers then you can say it's something more.
-CD
Co-sign Coverdoc.
Any club that allows baseball hats, jerseys, white tees and baggy pants is a club I really don't want to be at. I don't care which country or city I'm in. A bar is one thing...they are supposed to be casual dress the majority of the time. But an actual nightclub? They need to have some kind of dress code, its a screening tool and a damn good one. Its better than a high cover because low class people can pool money together and pretend to be ballers for the night. But the Chief keefs, Cholos, shit kicking country boys, gang members, etc typically aren't keen to put on a pair of chinos, dress shoes and iron a button down shirt or polo that actually fits them. That shit is wack...corny...lame..gay...etc
Im not saying a guy in a three piece suit never threw down in a nightclub, but we are talking about probability and ambience. There was a time in my life when I rejected clubs with a tighter dress code and was subsequently rejected by those clubs. They were right to do so, I simply wasn't ready. It had nothing to do with race and it wasn't personal, they established a dress code and I could choose to comply or not. My issue is when a brotha or anyone comes correct and the door is still on some BS. I have experienced that as well and know the difference.
I'm a little curious of what the nightclubs you go to look like. I've been to some nicer clubs before but they still had some "hood" in them. I've always figured club like the ones in big cities such as Vegas were more about how much money you can spend or your status. I would never get something like bottle service or a vip table.
Baseball jersey's are my thing right now so I'm always rocking one when I'm out and with some nice sneakers. I'm 25 though so I want to be around the young ratchet crowd. Whenever I go to club I want to see girls twerking it in every way possible. I've been to some clubs that were made up of majority white people and I can't vibe to the music. I've also been turned down at the door because my pants were too low on my waist or something stupid like that. If I can't vibe to the music then I can't really get going and enjoy myself. So, basically, if a club isn't playing Juvenile's Back That Ass Up, I'm not really interested in going anyway.
It's cool seeing the different perspectives about all of this.
(08-09-2016 04:41 PM)jayesco Wrote: (08-07-2016 09:33 PM)azulsombra Wrote: (08-07-2016 06:13 PM)coverdoc Wrote: (08-07-2016 03:55 PM)kirdiesel Wrote: A guy I follow on Youtube just dropped a video about Africans and African Americans in Europe.
This is what I have been trying to tell you guys about. Its not as bad in Germany but like I have been saying.. This is one thing that makes it a slight uphill climb for African American guys here. When you walk into a spot or even try to get into a spot for that matter they will confuse you for an African.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSi-X6BjfZk
It never crossed my mind while I was living in Germany if someone would mistake me for an african vs African American. My bank account is pretty solid and my style spoke for itself. I will say that I tried to reach out to some of the younger african guys around my age and noticed over time it did appear that they harbored some jealousy and resentment towards me. Especially in terms of interacting with women. I think I was more saddened than anything to see that 99.9% of the outside drug dealers all over berlin were African guys.
(08-07-2016 04:04 PM)kirdiesel Wrote: (08-06-2016 06:40 PM)Iso Wrote: Great post WIA. This insight right here makes a past experience I had make so much sense. I was in a bar in VA and an Asian friend of mine ordered Hennessy. The bartender said that they didn't have Hennessy. At the time, I didn't think much about it. But now, it all makes sense.
I've witnessed bars play "white" music so that they don't attract a black crowd. Typically it doesn't work that well. I've seen black guys on the dance floor dancing to top 40 pop hits and even rock music. The only DC bar I've been to that had no black men played Backstreet boys and Spice Girls.
This is one of the many tactics clubs use to dissuade blacks from coming to the club.
Don't forget the tight door policy.... No baggy pants, no hats, no hoodies, no sneakers, no boots. Lots of clothes typical blacks wear. Years ago I saw brothers get turned away from the door because their pants were too baggy.
Meh. It's no different than some of the black owned clubs down here in the south that don't allow hats, jerseys, white tees, baggy pants etc. I'm all for fighting the good fight, but sometimes things need to be called like how they are. It's not the brothers in 3 piece suit or a polo and khaki's starting shit and fucking things up. Night clubs live off reputation alone and if your club gets shot up or gets the reputation of unsafe or unfun then you, the owner, loses. Now once they start rejecting carlton Banks or GQ looking brothers then you can say it's something more.
-CD
Co-sign Coverdoc.
Any club that allows baseball hats, jerseys, white tees and baggy pants is a club I really don't want to be at. I don't care which country or city I'm in. A bar is one thing...they are supposed to be casual dress the majority of the time. But an actual nightclub? They need to have some kind of dress code, its a screening tool and a damn good one. Its better than a high cover because low class people can pool money together and pretend to be ballers for the night. But the Chief keefs, Cholos, shit kicking country boys, gang members, etc typically aren't keen to put on a pair of chinos, dress shoes and iron a button down shirt or polo that actually fits them. That shit is wack...corny...lame..gay...etc
Im not saying a guy in a three piece suit never threw down in a nightclub, but we are talking about probability and ambience. There was a time in my life when I rejected clubs with a tighter dress code and was subsequently rejected by those clubs. They were right to do so, I simply wasn't ready. It had nothing to do with race and it wasn't personal, they established a dress code and I could choose to comply or not. My issue is when a brotha or anyone comes correct and the door is still on some BS. I have experienced that as well and know the difference.
I'm a little curious of what the nightclubs you go to look like. I've been to some nicer clubs before but they still had some "hood" in them. I've always figured club like the ones in big cities such as Vegas were more about how much money you can spend or your status. I would never get something like bottle service or a vip table.
Baseball jersey's are my thing right now so I'm always rocking one when I'm out and with some nice sneakers. I'm 25 though so I want to be around the young ratchet crowd. Whenever I go to club I want to see girls twerking it in every way possible. I've been to some clubs that were made up of majority white people and I can't vibe to the music. I've also been turned down at the door because my pants were too low on my waist or something stupid like that. If I can't vibe to the music then I can't really get going and enjoy myself. So, basically, if a club isn't playing Juvenile's Back That Ass Up, I'm not really interested in going anyway.
It's cool seeing the different perspectives about all of this.
Well everyone goes to clubs for different reasons.
A big part of going clubbing for me is the social aspect of it and "ratchet girls" young or old are not girls im interested in getting to know. Only leads to drama and trouble. If I want to see girls "twerking it" in every which was possible ill go to a strip club. I understand what you are saying about the music but there are clubs that aren't only about bottle service and whatnot. Depends on where you go. Gotta find a nice balance.
I never thought ratchets chicks were hard to find.
Every city has a hood, find a hood and there are your ratchets. Why go meet them in a nightclub? They usually lack either a job or a car or both, so its common to see them walking or at a bus stop. Ratchets are used to getting hollared at in broad daylight by a dude hanging out a car window, while girls from other environments would be offended and post OMG "cat-calling" videos on YouTube so a little more finesse is needed there. Not so with the ratchets.
If you need some ratchets to bounce on your dick to 17 year old Hot Boys tracks bring them hoes back to the crib for a house party. You save on cover and dont have to worry about someone shooting up the place if you only invite your homies. Or just hit the strip club.
For the record, I prefer David Banner to David Guetta most nights but I can adapt. If the talent is there I can dancefloor grind to pretty much any type of music
jayesco · 2016-08-10 11:52:00 · #2940
(08-10-2016 01:19 AM)azulsombra Wrote: I never thought ratchets chicks were hard to find.
Every city has a hood, find a hood and there are your ratchets. Why go meet them in a nightclub? They usually lack either a job or a car or both, so its common to see them walking or at a bus stop. Ratchets are used to getting hollared at in broad daylight by a dude hanging out a car window, while girls from other environments would be offended and post OMG "cat-calling" videos on YouTube so a little more finesse is needed there. Not so with the ratchets.
If you need some ratchets to bounce on your dick to 17 year old Hot Boys tracks bring them hoes back to the crib for a house party. You save on cover and dont have to worry about someone shooting up the place if you only invite your homies. Or just hit the strip club.
For the record, I prefer David Banner to David Guetta most nights but I can adapt. If the talent is there I can dancefloor grind to pretty much any type of music
Strip clubs aren't my thing. I consider those a huge waste of money. We have a lot of clubs here with a $5 to $10 cover charge which isn't much at all. Usually me and my boys pregame before we go out so we don't have to waste money on drinks at the club. I don't like girls that are ratchet but when I'm out clubbing that's the environment I want to be in. There is usually someone in there that catches my eye but I'm not trying to LTR anyone from a club anyway...just pump and dump, so I don't take it so serious. When I'm smashing a white girl or some other NBG I met a few nights ago, am I really going to care that she might be ghetto or only down with brothers? Nope.
I'm not really into uptight places...but I'm starting to think I've seen the wrong end of it. I've been to some clubs with the most bourgeois black girls but they still going to get down. And people from the islands....they really get down. I'm down for venturing out. I really want to start suiting up after hearing you guys speak on it so much. I had an event for work where I had to dress up and I got a lot of interesting looks. I wear nothing but business casual stuff to my job so I'm going to try and switch it up here soon.
If people are getting down, that means the party is good. You know you're in a good spot when you get inside you start bobbing your head on beat, and make eye contact with someone else doing the same thing, and you connect with that person and you both feel it.
Most high end spots and racist spots aren't hype. They lack that person to person connection. It's the difference between a high end gourmet meal and putting trash bags on your backyard table and dumping a bucket of crawfish and crabs.
The chicks are going out to feel the club take them over, to lose control.
Y'all fuck around with this topic and we'll start talking about advanced game, lol
WIA
Alot of you dudes sound lost.
My guy said "twerking it to a 17 year old hot boy song"
????
That shit is lit..
@westindianarchie
Talk that pimp shit bro.
jayesco · 2016-08-10 14:28:00 · #2943
And also I'm definitely not interested in going to any place that is actively trying to keep our kind out with arbitrary rules. I don't really want to support a place like that.
(08-10-2016 12:52 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: Most high end spots and racist spots aren't hype. They lack that person to person connection. It's the difference between a high end gourmet meal and putting trash bags on your backyard table and dumping a bucket of crawfish and crabs.
Being from NYC I know for a fact that is not true. Maybe there are limited options in other cities but for sure in NYC thats not true.
(08-10-2016 02:23 PM)Topshelfhemp Wrote: Alot of you dudes sound lost.
Lost??? How??
(08-10-2016 02:28 PM)jayesco Wrote: And also I'm definitely not interested in going to any place that is actively trying to keep our kind out with arbitrary rules. I don't really want to support a place like that.
What do you mean "arbitrary" rules? They have these rules to keep the "hood niggas" from coming in and fucking the club up for everyone. All it takes is one stabbing or shooting and the club's reputation is ruined and noone wants to go anymore. I've never felt that I didn't get into a club in America because I was black... it was always because I didn't come to the door correctly.
Maybe my opinion is unpopular but I gotta tell it how it is.
@Kirdiesel
I didn't find the typical velvet rope party in Manhattan to be that fun compared to the underground spots in BK. They were packed with pretty people, sure. But not fun. Everyone watching everyone else, all too afraid to cut loose and be seen seen as a loser. Bottle service places especially.
(08-10-2016 03:29 PM)kirdiesel Wrote: I've never felt that I didn't get into a club in America because I was black... it was always because I didn't come to the door correctly.
Maybe my opinion is unpopular but I gotta tell it how it is.
Therein lies the problem. The term
correctly is entirely subjective. When you deem widely universal cultural attributes as incorrect then brothers tend to feel it's because we're black. Allowing patrons to wear Timberland's is hardly an invitation for "hood-niggas" and a precursor to getting your posh Yelp five-star club shot up.
It's a matter of perspective on whether to give the owner the benefit of the doubt with respect to just race or demeanor.
But I've been going out, behind the scenes, and all that stuff for a long time.
The "cool" black guy might get in, but that doesn't mean the place isn't racist to the core. They don't scrutinize uncool white guys to the same degree.
Black guy in a blazer doesn't get in for "dress code", white guy wearing a sweat stained ball cap, shorts, and flip flops on doesn't even pay cover.
White dudes getting rowdy when Eminem drops, even more crunk with lil jon. Too many blacks on the dance floor, dj plays techno or merengue.
I've seen things, we all have. Make a mental note, and keep it moving.
It's like black dudes mad that some random white porn star doesn't do interracial, when 99% of the rest do.
Every time I run into "disparity" I ask myself
Who are they to be equal to?
What do they really have that I truly want?
big picture wise, shit is rough, but on the small scale, I know how to work my magic.
That's what this post is about, not bitching about the scene, it's devising ways around.
WIA
Fortis · 2016-08-10 18:41:00 · #2948
I don't know, guys. Are we really surprised that high-end clubs don't want ratchets there? I'm not and I'm cool with it. I have ratchet neighbors in USA and I get on fine with them but I know how to handle those types. Some lily white club owned by some jew would have an awful time with that.
Honestly, the clubs in NJ/NYC would block you at the door for trying to get in with a tight v-neck, jeans and shoes ALA Jersey Shore style. I don't see it as all that weird. They're screening for people with money and certain dress styles don't always scream "i got a black card."
Also, lots of ratchets aren't hitting up high-end clubs anyway. I might fit a weird niche, but I'm rarely blocked from clubs at the door. Unfortunately, I'm not very intimidating by black man standards (as seen by white people): I'm light-skinned, short 5'8 and weigh 155 and tend to dress OK . V-neck, jeans and shoes and rarely have problems. I do make it a habit of talking to the door men as I'm walking up into a spot so that preempts a lot of bullshit. It's a perk of being a chatty cathy, but it's whatever.
Also, Jayesco, sorry to say this but are you really surprised that spots are blocking you for walking in with Jerseys on? That style is seen as very dated in America (And Europe I would imagine) so I can't say I'm surprised. TO be totally honest, I'm 27 I really haven't seen dudes rocking Jerseys since I was 16 years old.
But hey, if you're looking for ratchets then your signalling is on point.
That isn't meant as an attack on you, but I think if you're getting blocked at clubs for Jerseys I really can't be sympathetic there.
I was back in America for 2 weeks last month and I didn't see a single dude wearing a Jersey and I live in Newark, so that is definitely the place to see dudes rocking Jerseys.
Fortis · 2016-08-10 18:58:00 · #2949
Oh, I forgot to add that bringing well-dressed women can make up for your lack of dress in spots like these. The doormen aren't going to fuck with you if you bring 2 girls and another guy all looking decent, especially if the girls are cute.
Unfortunately many black men have chosen to emulate the style that many lower class or hood cats also wear so when you pull up to the club looking like that the doorman judges you right away. Hell people judge you right away.
These guys don't have time to get to know you and maybe see oh actually this is just an educated brother in those clothes. The doorman is gonna make a call in 2 seconds if you get in or not.
This is one of the reasons I've recently started classic fashion and suit blogging on Instagram to hopefully give other brothers some inspiration to stop dressing like that.