Post: #26

Thank you all very much.
As most of you mentioned, I definitely work on my game as well as other self improve works, whether I leave Australia or not.

Post: #27

(07-30-2016 08:28 AM)jasond Wrote:  The biggest factor would be your age and financial status.

If you're 25 and broke, I'd stay in Australia, work on your game and save up some money. Take short trips during the year to places of interest.

If you're 35, with significant financial assets, I'd move right away as time is running out.

Thanks for your advice.
I'm somewhere between them.
(30 yo, not broke but not rich either)

Post: #28

(07-30-2016 10:53 AM)OCZ Wrote:  be aware what are you giving up.

Thanks man. I wanted someone to point it out.

(07-30-2016 10:53 AM)OCZ Wrote:  Maybe learn another anguage in the way.

I study Russian from time to time. Hope it'll will help sometime in the future.

Post: #29

(07-30-2016 02:38 PM)Putin Closes Wrote:  So your basically pulling statements out of thin air. Australian girls are probably among the worst on the planet in terms of attitude. Having been to both, at the very minimum an Slavic 4 won't have an attitude of a 6, and a 6 won't have an attitude of an 8.

Guys are so thirsty in Australia its quite comical.

I'm one of those thirsty dudes lol

Post: #30

(07-30-2016 02:51 PM)burncushlikewood Wrote:  Stay in Australia and fine tune your game. Chances are just moving won't help. Get in touch with the community on here and go out and do approaches, then when your game has improved head out and explore. Where I live is a fucken dead zone for game and I still see Asian guys around here with serious looking broads.

Absolutely.
I'll visit (or move to) CE or EE (or maybe even Scandinavia/FSU) sometime in the future, but it's necessary to improve my game anyway

Post: #31

Haven't read the posts in the topic, but to YMD:

In my experience such poor girls in these countries tend to really "stick to their own". Don't think these girls will follow you around the world and just drop everyone else behind, unless she has no strong connections, in which case you should be wary of her in the first place. They have strong ties to their families, and communities, and the majority that are willing to follow you back to AUS (it would take like 6 months to find a few that are down to be with you) are likely doing it for superficial reasons. There are many exceptions to this rule, sure, but I think you at the moment have a very idealistic vision of how it'll go down.
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Post: #32

I disagree completely.

Staying in Australia to improve your game is like practicing your hitting in the Major leagues and then asking for a promotion to the minors.

It just doesn't work that way.

I read the same advice here years ago and I took it to some heart and now I realize how ridiculous it is. I wish I came to Poland 5 years ago, when I was younger and better looking and had more sexual energy.

It's better to practice and get some experience and confidence from easy countries and then move back to the Anglosphere. At the very least you had a good time and can laugh at all the rejections from hot women you will surely face as we all do.

Post: #33

I suppose you could find some gigs in the U.S. Your accent and attitude could help get some girls. More importantly, you could learn how to handle firearms and become competent. That would give you a big leg up once you get back to Australia.

Post: #34

If you're not happy, get out of Australia.

Find a way to go remote, check out the motivational thread we've got going on ways to do that (and there's many other threads on the forum as well):

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If you're already in tech, it may not be that difficult for you to make the transition to some remote fields.

Don't waste your youth being unhappy, life's too short for that.

Post: #35

Find a way to earn your Australian dollars in a country with a weaker currency. Better girls and a higher standard of living!

Post: #36

Your best bet would be to visit a place to gain experience. Your best bet would be Thailand, Indonesia and the Phillipines. Maybe Taiwan could be a possible option. Just dont pursue quality since your a beginner, pursue less attractive women if you have to. Your main goal would be to get EXPERIENCE and CONFIDENCE.

Post: #37

I'm not sure where an Asian guy would do well. Probably relocating will help this guy somewhat, but he would have to choose the right place. Eastern Europe is NOT the place.

Post: #38

I too have aspirations of living Location independent lifestyle in Central Asia/ S E Asia.

Moving to a poorer country to meet women is foolish.

Giving up good income just to meet women is even more foolish. The mind is capable of error and it seems to me that you're in a bad place right now; your post is riddled with hints of depression.

Yes, it is cheap to live in a developing country, but you don't want to live like a local. The whole purpose of moving somewhere cheaper is to take advantage of differences in the cost of living/ currency arbitrage.

Roosh himself saved up 30 grand before moving to South America.

As some of the other posters have mentioned.

1. Work on your game in Australia.

If your game is shit, you'll get mediocre women wherever you go. Look at all the dopey westerners with 4s in Thailand/ phill. Nobody wants to be that guy come on

2. Start saving money. If you're already saving money, save more.

3. Build a side business/ passive income stream while being employed by your employer and receiving a monthly salary

4. Figure out where you want to move. Do your research. Learn the language. Figure out how the banking/ visa system works

5. Stop feeling sorry for yourself. You already speak Japanese, English and you say you study Russian? You're not too old and you're doing much better than a lot of people. Some guys on the board only discover game in their 30s and even 40s. You're not the slowest turtle in the race. Think: some guys die without discovering our way of life. It's a wonderful time to be alive young grasshopper

I can always discuss more via PM.

Post: #39

(07-30-2016 02:35 PM)Schlep Wrote:  @ YMD

... Take some time off and focus on your happiness. Take a nice vacation somewhere and enjoy yourself. I myself would rather live in Siberia on 1,500$ a month with better quality of women and take nice vacations in the winter months. Then live in a country you are not happy in, on 4,000$ month.

Good luck

Schlep has it right.
Time is tearing us apart. For me the above income dichotomy is $1500/8000 and I'm still ditching out.

If you don't have regular access to sex with attractive, fertile women you are an exile and outcast from the very culture in which you live.

Consider logistics, but not for 25 years. Take trips to see where women like you and you like them.

I liked FSU women but aged out of access to the better ones and then SE Asia become the best place for me. If you're young the recommendations for places with the beautiful Eurasians sound good.

Post: #40

(07-31-2016 04:25 AM)Lindsey Graham Wrote:  I'm not sure where an Asian guy would do well. Probably relocating will help this guy somewhat, but he would have to choose the right place. Eastern Europe is NOT the place.

I think I was too much influenced by this post (http://naughtynomad.com/2014/01/12/maxim...al-market/) in Naughty Nomad and Roosh's this advice
In a nutshell, they said that being exotic can help my game.

I have to admit that I was searching for salvation in relocating to a place where I don't look like a local (As you know, in Australia, there are already lots of Japanese/Asian).

Post: #41

(07-31-2016 03:06 AM)Kapostatus13 Wrote:  Your best bet would be to visit a place to gain experience. Your best bet would be Thailand, Indonesia and the Phillipines. Maybe Taiwan could be a possible option. Just dont pursue quality since your a beginner, pursue less attractive women if you have to. Your main goal would be to get EXPERIENCE and CONFIDENCE.

Thanks for your reply.
However, I want to pursue my ideal. Also, I've already visited SEA, so I'd like to visit new regions.
Anyway, I appreciate your advice!

Post: #42

Trust me when I say this. Banging and chasing girls will be different the older you get. The satisfaction with the act of sex itself will diminish dramatically with age. You have will have trouble keeping a boner, less hornier and you will be less motivated to game.

You're in your 30 now. Now is the time to bang as many girls as possible. You can make more money later on in life but you will never get back the feeling of banging a different girl every week when you're still relatively young and full of hope. Travelling to an easier country will help you with this.

You have the best type of skill to become location independent. Lots of guys would kill to have your skill so they can travel indefinitely. Why waste that skill by staying in Australia of all places?

Take that leap of faith and change your life now. You already know what you really want. You clearly stated as much.

Post: #43

Quote:If your game is shit, you'll get mediocre women wherever you go. Look at all the dopey westerners with 4s in Thailand/ phill. Nobody wants to be that guy come on

Not true.

I used to have the shittiest game but I was able to consistently get 7+ in SEA and guys I know as well.

Those dopey foreigners honestly can't even get a 2s in their own country. a 4s and is a huge upgrade for them or else they wouldn't be there.

Post: #44

(07-31-2016 05:10 AM)Stickman Wrote:  

Quote:If your game is shit, you'll get mediocre women wherever you go. Look at all the dopey westerners with 4s in Thailand/ phill. Nobody wants to be that guy come on

Not true.

I used to have the shittiest game but I was able to consistently get 7+ in SEA and guys I know as well.

Those dopey foreigners honestly can't even get a 2s in their own country. a 4s and is a huge upgrade for them or else they wouldn't be there.

Generally, there's a rating inflation among non-asians in the forum. Shittiest game does not get you 7's period.

Perhaps 6's if your looks are good enough. Otherwise its massive 4's/5's. As discussed to death, dark skin is a big minus in Asia.

Reminds me of a guy who calls this butterface miss michigan winner an 8.5.

Post: #45

(07-31-2016 04:28 AM)Agreddor Wrote:  Giving up good income just to meet women is even more foolish.

Stay hungry, stay foolish.
Chances are I took this quote too seriously.

(07-31-2016 04:28 AM)Agreddor Wrote:  The mind is capable of error and it seems to me that you're in a bad place right now; your post is riddled with hints of depression.

Hints of depression lol
I admit that I was so clueless with women that I was looking for salvation in moving. I wanted somebody to point it out and give a critical/constructive advice.

(07-31-2016 04:28 AM)Agreddor Wrote:  Yes, it is cheap to live in a developing country, but you don't want to live like a local. The whole purpose of moving somewhere cheaper is to take advantage of differences in the cost of living/ currency arbitrage.

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5. Stop feeling sorry for yourself. You already speak Japanese, English and you say you study Russian? You're not too old and you're doing much better than a lot of people.

I study Russian, but it's just occasionally.
I haven't mentioned that I'm planning to do a PhD in 2-3 years in Computer science in either USA or Canada. So, this coming 2-3 years might be the last chance in my life to live in CE/EE for an extended period of time.
This is why I'm thinking about giving up good income just to meet women and don't care about taking advantage of differences in the cost of living/currency arbitrage... But it's just for 2-3 years, I'll move to another country again.
(Maybe I should have mentioned it at the beginning)
I used to be into Russian, but now I spend my free time in math and IT stuff.

The thing is, I can't 100% concentrate on my studying because of how unsuccessful I've been with women, and my fantasy about Slavic women is getting bigger and bigger. If I don't have such fantasy, I'll completely stop studying Russian and focus on IT/Math only.
I don't want to die without pursuing those women, as well as pursing my career as a computer expert.

Thank you for your advice. I appreciate you.

Post: #46

By the way, I remembered that Roosh once said that If your only determinant of where to live is the “job market,” your dick is going to hate you.

Post: #47

(07-31-2016 05:49 AM)YMD Wrote:  By the way, I remembered that Roosh once said that If your only determinant of where to live is the “job market,” your dick is going to hate you.

Im going to be honest also. can you get Japanese girls back home? Or any sort of asian girls?

Cause going to slavic countries and trying to bang women is a recipe for disaster if you have little or no game. I had a semi fling with a 7.5 EEUU standards 8 for sure here in Asia if not highr, a straight up head case. Slavic women are beautiful but will fuck with your mind if you're not careful.

How tall are you / do you work out? Get your basic things in order and learn to how to game proficiently at all the Australian FOBs.

Post: #48

Quote:If you don't have regular access to sex with attractive, fertile women you are an exile and outcast from the very culture in which you live.

Post: #49

(07-31-2016 05:37 AM)YMD Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 04:28 AM)Agreddor Wrote:  Giving up good income just to meet women is even more foolish.

Stay hungry, stay foolish.
Chances are I took this quote too seriously.

(07-31-2016 04:28 AM)Agreddor Wrote:  The mind is capable of error and it seems to me that you're in a bad place right now; your post is riddled with hints of depression.

Hints of depression lol
I admit that I was so clueless with women that I was looking for salvation in moving. I wanted somebody to point it out and give a critical/constructive advice.

(07-31-2016 04:28 AM)Agreddor Wrote:  Yes, it is cheap to live in a developing country, but you don't want to live like a local. The whole purpose of moving somewhere cheaper is to take advantage of differences in the cost of living/ currency arbitrage.

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5. Stop feeling sorry for yourself. You already speak Japanese, English and you say you study Russian? You're not too old and you're doing much better than a lot of people.

I study Russian, but it's just occasionally.
I haven't mentioned that I'm planning to do a PhD in 2-3 years in Computer science in either USA or Canada. So, this coming 2-3 years might be the last chance in my life to live in CE/EE for an extended period of time.
This is why I'm thinking about giving up good income just to meet women and don't care about taking advantage of differences in the cost of living/currency arbitrage... But it's just for 2-3 years, I'll move to another country again.
(Maybe I should have mentioned it at the beginning)
I used to be into Russian, but now I spend my free time in math and IT stuff.

The thing is, I can't 100% concentrate on my studying because of how unsuccessful I've been with women, and my fantasy about Slavic women is getting bigger and bigger. If I don't have such fantasy, I'll completely stop studying Russian and focus on IT/Math only.
I don't want to die without pursuing those women, as well as pursing my career as a computer expert.

Thank you for your advice. I appreciate you.

Read bang, go out and do 100 approaches.

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Post: #50

(07-31-2016 05:49 AM)YMD Wrote:  By the way, I remembered that Roosh once said that If your only determinant of where to live is the “job market,” your dick is going to hate you.

Great idea to keep in mind, it's really true here in California, the women are icy. it not even their fault, anything else is viewed as stupidity.