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/pol/ always delivers.
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(07-22-2016 05:08 PM)weambulance Wrote:  Gun control advocates after every single mass shooting?

You are right, I should have included it my initial post - it's a bit like the security theatre the European politicians now come up with after Brussels and Paris...proposed measures which won't reduce the ease of committing an attack. Yet I believe most rational people would understand that the bad boys who are commited to start a shooting will get their weapons, no matter what.

I do think that reasonable gun control laws can reduce the amount of shootings in certain societies/countries. Sadly it's a fight against the symptoms rather than the cause of the issue, but what can you do if your government regularly decides against your interests? We are far away from having enough people being angry enough to start a revolution.
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(07-22-2016 07:56 PM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  /pol/ always delivers.
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Sure it's not someone trying to be the first "I knew him!" ?

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At least they're not trying to pretend that he was a native German or a "German-German".

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Strange: German reporter was present for both Nice and Munich terrorist attacks. He's married to a Knesset member and ex-intelligence lieutenant for Israeli forces...

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comm...ed_france/

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It was reported for hours and hours by every media outlet that there were 3 shooters. The media constantly confirmed that there were 3.

Now it's 1.

This happens every. single. time.
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(07-22-2016 11:44 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Strange: German reporter was present for both Nice and Munich terrorist attacks. He's married to a Knesset member and ex-intelligence lieutenant for Israeli forces...

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comm...ed_france/

If this is true, then it is clear that both attacks have been staged.

No way in hell are you going to have that much bad luck.

People died there, what is going on is unclear.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/ger...story.html

Also this Munich attack does not make much sense and is rather strange in the makeup.

German-Iranian with perfect German and bullet proof vest goes on a rampage?
Then "luckily for the cops" he kills himself.

Quote:Authorities were also investigating whether the gunman may have been motivated by anger at immigrants. Language against foreigners can be heard on a recording from the scene of the shooting, but it was not immediately clear who was speaking. A German television station said a witness told a colleague that the shooter shouted “Bloody foreigners!” at the scene of the McDonald’s attack. There was no immediate confirmation of that account.

So what is it now?

Is he going to be motivated by his German "right-wing" side or his Iranian "Muslim" side. Even if he since left Islam, then Ex-Muslims usually don't want to kill Muslims willy-nilly starting in a McDonald's. That is just crazy motivational thinking. It won't happen, because guys coming from 2 cultures rather understand both, but ultimately may choose one or none. (Usually Ex-Muslims just understand the poisonous nature of Islam, but still love the people there. They don't become crazy Neonazis.)

And if he is an Islamist, then why start shooting in a McDonald's where apparently quite a few Muslim foreigners were there.

Quote:An employee inside the mall, who would give only her first name, Sabiha, said she saw a gunman open fire outside her clothing store. The assailant — described as about 6-foot-1, with black hair and a beard, and wearing a black shirt and “some kind of vest” — moved through the corridors before leaving the building, she told The Post.

He wore a bullet proof vest, walked around as if he was taking a stroll shooting left and right and then he simply killed himself? He wore the vest in order to not be easily shot by cops or some random German hunter who wanted to take things into his own hands.

The axe attack previously by the ISIS sympathizer makes much more sense in that regard. He also attacked the cops. If he were an Islamist, then he would have done the same shooting his way into heaven killing cops.

The attack makes really not much sense except to maybe put some blame on Iran, since that country is the top-dog for Israel.

I am not saying that it is all staged, but if the reporter is the same, then this thing is fishy and makes not much sense.

To the Alphabet Agencies:

4/5 points for the Nice attack if it was you - convincing performance (though if they used the same Mossad-linked reporter as with Munich then the credibility of that attack falls 2 points)
5/5 points for the Axe attack earlier - that attack even might be true and done by the guy - we have a video by attacker, dead people and a clear motive that makes sense
2/5 points for Munich shooting - sloppy and makes no sense

Either way - I am neither confirming nor denying anything. The sexual attacks and multiple crimes of the migrants are true - this - does not look that way.
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(07-22-2016 11:44 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Strange: German reporter was present for both Nice and Munich terrorist attacks. He's married to a Knesset member and ex-intelligence lieutenant for Israeli forces...

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comm...ed_france/

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(07-23-2016 12:25 AM)Chauncey Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 11:44 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Strange: German reporter was present for both Nice and Munich terrorist attacks. He's married to a Knesset member and ex-intelligence lieutenant for Israeli forces...

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comm...ed_france/

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(07-22-2016 05:40 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 05:37 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  I think you underestimate the shock and disassociation which can occur when you are exposed to incoming fire for the first time. This is why the army spends so much time on battle inoculation for combat troops. A chap like the one you mention is not necessarily a coward.

You misunderstood me.

I did not refer to courage per se, but to instinct, self conservation, and awareness of your environment. There is a Japanese word for that, something people from SA or EE still have, and Westerners don't anymore...

edit: the Japanese word is zanshin : "awareness, readiness for anything, calm and centered yet prepared to act in a moment"

We Westerners will have to learn to walk our streets with Zanshin, like our forefathers did!

This page contains a video of a police shooting in Australia.

http://video.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2...180059.mp4

You will note that despite the police officer having drawn her pistol and there being a clearly deranged man with a knife in front of her, there is still a large number of people just milling about, as if it's freaking street theatre they're watching.

Bang. Bang. Pause. Bang. An idiot bystander starts screaming. Two others start bleeding as well. Why? Because despite having ample warning that shooting was going to take place they didn't bother to find cover or even walk away, and consequently when the target moved between them and the officer they caught stray rounds pass-through rounds (thankyou moronic SOPs denying police hollow point ammunition "because it's more lethal". tard)

Think about that. Ignoring the idiots literally strolling mere feet away from the knife wielding bullet magnet, that's three bystanders from three bullets. We could reasonably assume that crowds were drawing in rather than running away. At least two bullets had to pass through the lunatic and go on to strike another person.

The first time I watched this video I honestly and actually found it too hard to believe.
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(07-22-2016 11:44 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Strange: German reporter was present for both Nice and Munich terrorist attacks. He's married to a Knesset member and ex-intelligence lieutenant for Israeli forces...

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comm...ed_france/

Samseau wrote something a few weeks ago on page 64 (post 1580) in the uk brexit thread about how some segments of (((that minority))) are actually now moving to the right conservative wing because they are truly concerened about the migrant invasion of europe and irrversible demographic changes and are starting to reject the multiculturalism they promoted for almost a century.

I know its a long shot.....but might there be (((outside elements))) actually letting these attacks happen to try to provoke europe into finally taking action against these migrants as we have so often called for on this forum ?

...or is this simply a ploy to create ethnic conflict and chaos to distract everyone while more important things are going on behind the scenes, such as war against russia, more repressive laws, online censorship and a restructering of the worlds finances to prevent global bankrupcy.

Whatever the reality, the advice for all of us the same. Be vigilitant, be prepared and be ready to either fight or move to another place quickly if things become too dangerous.
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Okay, guys, I know this is a little further down the rabbit hole, but the timing of all of this has stuck out to me since last week.

Last week we had the Nice attacks Thursday night, the 9/11 report, Bataclan report, and Trump VP on Friday, and the Turkey coup on Friday night.

This week we had the RNC on Thursday, the #DNCLeaks on Friday, and the Munich shooting just hours later on Friday. You also had this other police shooting breaking late Wednesday or early Thursday.

Now, I'm not saying this means anything (other than the West is going to shit), but you have to admit that the timing is pretty interesting. The DNC leaks seem to have too much momentum to be ignored, but the 9/11 and Bataclan reports last week were basically lost in the shuffle.
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(07-22-2016 11:44 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Strange: German reporter was present for both Nice and Munich terrorist attacks. He's married to a Knesset member and ex-intelligence lieutenant for Israeli forces...

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comm...ed_france/

Possible explanation?:

His (ambitious but reckless?) intelligence-community wife was beforehand aware of the time and place of both attacks, and consequently sent her German husband there and then to foster his journalistic career?

In any case, we have found quite the wall survivor: WB!!

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Edit: No, come to think of it, explanation would be:

The (snoopy) German journalist searched his wife's documents, or overheard a conversation involving his wife, then he knew about approximate time and location of both attacks, and recklessly went there to have a scoop. Cause, no way the intelligence wife would have made such mistake as to sending her husband there, twice.
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Whether deliberately planned and executed or whether allowed to happen - this does not make anything better there. The guy fired real bullets. You could hear it from the altercation where the pensioners called him out and he shot back against the apartment building. He even might have killed someone standing on the balcony.

The truth of what happened must be found with other means. We can only enlighten a few issues and make assumptions based on that. But of course if there ever came a truly just government into power and dug out all those cases, then this would make for some interesting reading. But I doubt this will ever happen. Maybe in some future time if the digital proof is still available.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...52116.html
Quote:He declined to confirm reports by German daily Bild that officers had raided a home in the city's Marxvorstadt district about 2 kilometers (1.2 miles) from the mall and were interviewing the suspect's father, citing "ongoing police operations."

A neighbour on Dachauer Strasse that was searched by police on Saturday morning described the alleged gunman as "very quiet".

Wishing to only give his first name, Stephan, an owner of a coffee shop, said: "He only ever said 'hi'. His whole body language was of somebody who was very shy."

He added: "He never came into the cafe - he was just a neighbour and took out the trash but never talked."

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(07-22-2016 05:29 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 04:51 PM)Slim Shady Wrote:  Apparently Fox is the only channel saying that while they know that "other networks" are reporting that the guy said "allahu akbar", their information says that the guy was a "right winger" who said "Fucking foreigners".

Fox news understands German even worse than I do, because, I watched the video (in German) posted on this thread, and it seems to me, the "Fucking foreigners" insult was directed at the shooter, by an angry German man standing behind the civilian engaged in "conversation" with the shooter...

Aaand I was right: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...52116.html

"Video uploaded to social media purportedly shows the attacker shouting "I am German" and "I was born here" after an onlooker shouts xenophobic remarks to him during the attack."
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Had 300 rounds ammunition and an oversize ballistics vest that made him look fat in the footage.
Most victims under 18, youngest 14.

Just a fucked up kid who happens to be the son of an Iranian immigrant taxi driver.

If it was ISIS connected he would have had a proper rifle.

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The way things are going.

I expect another public terror incident before Sunday night.

& then two more in the coming week.

& so forth & so on.
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Only one witness who spoke to CNN said they heard 'Allahu Akbar' shouted. It was a busy shopping mall. There should be more witnesses confirming this. Where are they?
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I am going to go fake mussi just to get this kind of arsenal.

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Case closed.

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(07-23-2016 06:09 AM)rotekz Wrote:  Case closed.

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Trying to connect a muslim with right wing? This shit is so farfetched. Breivik was against muslims.

"It was also revealed by local police that he had extreme right wing views who hated Muslims."

The first picture portraits Breivik as a mason:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...slims.html
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(07-23-2016 06:09 AM)rotekz Wrote:  Case closed.

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http://www.bz-berlin.de/deutschland/muen...ch-iraners

Yeah - if true, then Islam is not responsible for his actions at least this time.

Guy was obviously more a secular German than Iranian. (Usually fits my experience with ex-Iranians as I have 4 acquaintances in my circle who are all ex-Muslims and rather spiritually inclined - secular/spiritual just like me).

Anyway - if the stuff is true and he is not just a Gladio/CIA operative doing his job, then he was your usual run-of-the-mill psycho. Whether he had a psychosis, was on psychotropics, mentally unstable - who cares.

His actions thus make much more sense since he made some derogatory statements about foreigners.

All in all - perfectly assimilated German - just a psycho one. Breivik is not the best role model there - if he was truly fascinated about amok shootings, then it takes only one bout of psychosis to trigger him. That would also explain him shouting back to the people that "He is German." That statement makes sense.

Whether secret services knew about his plans, since he had a diary and some agencies may have known about his actions - that is another matter. They may have decided to let it happen and sent their "reporter" on the scene.

Either way - case closed at least with the info we've got. ISIS cannot claim responsibility for that.
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(07-23-2016 06:37 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  His actions thus make much more sense since he made some derogatory statements about foreigners.

He didn't. It was an onlooker that shouted 'Fucking foreigners' at the shooter.
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