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Nobody knows yet whether this was an "islamist terror attack" or simply some guys jumping on the recent attack-in-Europe bandwagon. It's a bit of a domino effect - we had this rampage in Germany a couple of years ago and only days later another guy wanted to do the same, but was caught before he could start it. He simply saw the right moment to cross the threshold as somebody else gave an example - I wouldn't be surprised if this is the same after the axe attack.

(07-22-2016 12:51 PM)Renzy Wrote:  So despite having a national gun registry and a reputation of having the strictest gun control in the world, it still didn't keep them safe from mass shootings.

Who claims that this makes shootings impossible? As long as there is any way to get your hands legally on a deadly weapon, there's the possibility of shootings, not even speaking of obtaining weapons illegally. Yes, it's debatable whether a strict gun law has any sort of purpose, especially when looking at our Swiss neighbours where literally every citizen owns a gun, but your comment doesn't make sense.

(07-22-2016 02:38 PM)spalex Wrote:  ALL because Germans are brainwashed into thinking that they must do anything to not repeat their history.

I bet Americans and the British would be among the first ones to point their fingers and take action on Germans if they indeed repeated that part of history. Having said that, of course your colleagues' comment is bullshit. It is about time to change the way we deal with the majority of immigrants.
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The Kassam Haid troll and the CNN 'Allahu Akbar' bollocks are going viral.
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(07-22-2016 05:03 PM)Quaestum Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 12:51 PM)Renzy Wrote:  So despite having a national gun registry and a reputation of having the strictest gun control in the world, it still didn't keep them safe from mass shootings.

Who claims that this makes shootings impossible? As long as there is any way to get your hands legally on a deadly weapon, there's the possibility of shootings, not even speaking of obtaining weapons illegally. Yes, it's debatable whether a strict gun law has any sort of purpose, especially when looking at our Swiss neighbours where literally every citizen owns a gun, but your comment doesn't make sense.

Gun control advocates after every single mass shooting?
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Regardless of the shooter/s particulars.

Just another example of how an unarmed & unprepared populace is a soft target.
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A distributed threat demands distributed defense. Unfortunately pretty much every government on earth would prefer to bury a pile of dead proles over relaxing its monopoly on the use of force.
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(07-22-2016 04:51 PM)Slim Shady Wrote:  Apparently Fox is the only channel saying that while they know that "other networks" are reporting that the guy said "allahu akbar", their information says that the guy was a "right winger" who said "Fucking foreigners".

Fox news understands German even worse than I do, because, I watched the video (in German) posted on this thread, and it seems to me, the "Fucking foreigners" insult was directed at the shooter, by an angry German man standing behind the civilian engaged in "conversation" with the shooter...
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(07-22-2016 05:10 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Regardless of the shooter/s particulars.

Just another example of how an unarmed & unprepared populace is a soft target.

If you look at the video from the exit of the McDonald's, you'll see that the shooter fires at some people (passers-by), and the first man standing in the line of fire, needs 3 seconds and 3 gunshots to understand and start running Dodgy If he were from South America or EE or Asia, he would have understood right away... Western men seem to have lost in just one generation their bravery and common sense!
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I think you underestimate the shock and disassociation which can occur when you are exposed to incoming fire for the first time. This is why the army spends so much time on battle inoculation for combat troops. A chap like the one you mention is not necessarily a coward.
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(07-22-2016 05:37 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  I think you underestimate the shock and disassociation which can occur when you are exposed to incoming fire for the first time. This is why the army spends so much time on battle inoculation for combat troops. A chap like the one you mention is not necessarily a coward.

You misunderstood me.

I did not refer to courage per se, but to instinct, self conservation, and awareness of your environment. There is a Japanese word for that, something people from SA or EE still have, and Westerners don't anymore...

edit: the Japanese word is zanshin : "awareness, readiness for anything, calm and centered yet prepared to act in a moment"

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We Westerners will have to learn to walk our streets with Zanshin, like our forefathers did!
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That's what happens when things go down and you're in condition white. It takes a few seconds for your brain to load the right program from storage.
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(07-22-2016 05:10 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Regardless of the shooter/s particulars.

Just another example of how an unarmed & unprepared populace is a soft target.

Err no.

They have plenty of guns in the US, Asia, Africa and Middle East. Any population is a soft target when the nuts are around.

Its usually a bad idea to let in or settle migrants with low IQ and allow them to breed other low IQ useless bastard children who continue the cycle.

This stuff did not exist in these countries since WW2 and the odd psychopath who had mental issues. Guns are easily found in mainland Europe because it is a landmass connected to many countries which have large stocks of guns freely available at a price.


Things the EU did wrong;

1: Let in low IQ migrants en-mass over 3 decades
2: Allowed them to essentially take over streets, neighbourhoods, postcodes, areas of towns/cities and eventually...the urban area itself
3: Allowed these populations to practice and preach a hateful religion
4:Did absolutely nothing to stop them (Rotherham, criminality, rape, murder, spreading hate - behead those who insult Islam on British streets, travelling to Syria & Iraq

5: Still does not crack down on the population who are prone to carry out such violence and instead brings in measures such as stringent airport checks to make sure an elderly couple from Kent, England does not carry harmful substances in a Diet Coke bottle which could jeopardise the lives of 200+ people on an Easy Jet flight to Europe during summer time.

Europe is a state which grants freedom of movement to convicted murderers who then go to foreign countries, kidnap 14 year old girls, rape and then murder them. Through the use of the Human Rights Act.

Guns and gun free zone legislation are not the problem, ignorant & weak politicians and their jackboot authorities are. Until European citizen death tolls become common place (and they will) the pressure continue to be applied on normal citizens which as history tells us, results in an atmosphere where the only outcome is nation-wide mass violence.
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It's time for war, but not only against the invaders.
As unoriginal as it sounds, follow the money.

And the elite wants a race war.

In another post i said they don't allow attacks in germany.

After the axe attack, this is the proof everything is going according to the plan. Something was already planned for carnival this year, but it was too early so they canceled all big carnivals but the one in cologne, because of the weather although they are all in the same area.

Now they will choose city after city, but first they take Munich, afterwards perhaps the eastern german states.Because they show more resistance than the western ones. working up to the north before they finally will go west where more foreigners live (without counting munich, berlin) and the safehaven left cities like Hamburg. Cities like Bremen who are in total family clan control probably wont be hit.

When it happens in the east the racial tensions will rise. When it happens in the west something big will happen.

I could be wrong. And I hope the next weeks will be too much and the last apologists wake up.
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(07-22-2016 05:42 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 05:10 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Regardless of the shooter/s particulars.

Just another example of how an unarmed & unprepared populace is a soft target.

Err no.

They have plenty of guns in the US, Asia, Africa and Middle East. Any population is a soft target when the nuts are around.

Its usually a bad idea to let in or settle migrants with low IQ and allow them to breed other low IQ useless bastard children who continue the cycle.

This stuff did not exist in these countries since WW2 and the odd psychopath who had mental issues. Guns are easily found in mainland Europe because it is a landmass connected to many countries which have large stocks of guns freely available at a price.


Things the EU did wrong;

1: Let in low IQ migrants en-mass over 3 decades
2: Allowed them to essentially take over streets, neighbourhoods, postcodes, areas of towns/cities and eventually...the urban area itself
3: Allowed these populations to practice and preach a hateful religion
4:Did absolutely nothing to stop them (Rotherham, criminality, rape, murder, spreading hate - behead those who insult Islam on British streets, travelling to Syria & Iraq

5: Still does not crack down on the population who are prone to carry out such violence and instead brings in measures such as stringent airport checks to make sure an elderly couple from Kent, England does not carry harmful substances in a Diet Coke bottle which could jeopardise the lives of 200+ people on an Easy Jet flight to Europe during summer time.

Europe is a state which grants freedom of movement to convicted murderers who then go to foreign countries, kidnap 14 year old girls, rape and then murder them. Through the use of the Human Rights Act.

Guns and gun free zone legislation are not the problem, ignorant & weak politicians and their jackboot authorities are. Until European citizen death tolls become common place (and they will) the pressure continue to be applied on normal citizens which as history tells us, results in an atmosphere where the only outcome is nation-wide mass violence.

You're both right. You can't boil this down to "oh it's the government's fault for letting psychos in and encouraging them"; you also have to look at the fact that the government has assumed full responsibility for public safety to the point where commoners are forbidden from owning and carrying effective means of self defense.

Most people in western countries have been told from birth by agents of their government to leave problems to the authorities. That conditioned them to react poorly when SHTF around them, by depriving them of the correct reflexes and education to handle a bad situation. Those same authorities then fucked them in the ass without lube by bringing in an immiscible culture that glorifies violence against innocents. And now here we are.
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(07-22-2016 04:49 PM)Akula Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 01:38 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  That twitter video showed a bow legged looking oaf, with a lame leg, shooting at a bunch of people. How could a guy like that escape anyone? This may not be Islamic this time. Still is a case of gun free zones being violated by people with guns. Don't need Muslims to show off that weakness.

Yeah, 'gun free' zones what a joke. Germany is incredibly tight on gun control.

So they still have not caught these guys right? Unbelievable.

I really have to wonder how bad it's gotta get before the authorities have to give up the game and actually do something or admit that they were wrong.

This has to be impacting Western European tourism massively. Who in their right mind would be taking Summer trips to France, Germany, Belgium etc.?

They'll be going to Orlando instead?

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Let's see who can benefit from this... Mmm... Oh, yes, the usual suspect -Israel.

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so much conflicting information with this one and like a previous poster said, each side is hoping it was the other side who did this attack.

Another poster said something along the lines of seeing these types of headlines every Friday. I know "Friday" here doesnt mean much however its interesting that especially in Muslim majority countries, the imams rile up all the attendants of the Friday prayers. They preach hate which gets the adrenaline pumping which leads to them going to bully the minorities. It's like how a full moon affects certain people and makes them more volatile.


By the way, FYI, I'm not even sure if this was Muslims.
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Gotta give credit to the Japanese. Smart enough not to allow their culture to be overtaken like the cesspool that is most of Europe now.
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(07-22-2016 06:05 PM)Luvianka Wrote:  Let's see who can benefit from this... Mmm... Oh, yes, the usual suspect -Israel.

Europe is becoming Israel. I guess this is the objective.
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BREAKINGGunman was 18-year-old Iranian
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Police say gunman was an 18-year-old Iranian man from Munich.
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People are awfully quiet. All the open borders libertarians (they're actually social liberals aka limousine socialists) on my Facebook are dead silent, not more than a couple of weeks back they were aggressively attacking anyone who uttered something about muslims. My posts about allowing guns for normal citizens got tons of likes. The last 'libertarians' are waking up and that's good. Soon only the hardcore leftists will be left and will have to cave to an overwhelming majority.
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(07-22-2016 07:27 PM)zigZag Wrote:  BREAKINGGunman was 18-year-old Iranian
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Police say gunman was an 18-year-old Iranian man from Munich.

Odd that it is an Iranian, they're usually not the radical types. Could be he is a minority group within Iran? They have turks and other ethnicities there too.
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(07-22-2016 06:41 PM)chakalaka Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 06:05 PM)Luvianka Wrote:  Let's see who can benefit from this... Mmm... Oh, yes, the usual suspect -Israel.

Europe is becoming Israel. I guess this is the objective.

Indeed, lots of topics last few weeks about 'learning from Israel', but I do not want to live in paranoia state Israel, the day I see armed guards outside shopping malls is the day I leave. Israelis are usually cool, but they live in the most Orwellian state in the world, not a day goes by without some rumor that the muslims attacked or that the war is imminent.
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(07-22-2016 07:34 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 07:27 PM)zigZag Wrote:  BREAKINGGunman was 18-year-old Iranian
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Police say gunman was an 18-year-old Iranian man from Munich.

Odd that it is an Iranian, they're usually not the radical types. Could be he is a minority group within Iran? They have turks and other ethnicities there too.

The most radical part of Iran is the south east, where border with Pakistan lies. There was regular terrorism there up until 4-5 years ago.

However, he might have been from Azerbaijan part of Iran near Turkish border....if allegations of "Fuck the Turks" shouted by him is true. Not long to find out
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