Post: #151

Jesus... I step off the plane after 35 hours of travelling to find another page on the Korean issue?

Anyways, my trip is now at an end and I'm going to put down some details on things that I think I noticed while there. This will also more or less serve as my trip report. I feel comfortable putting it here because it will be specialized to Asian guys, the Phils thread doesn't need one more lay report post cause everyone gets the point already.

In my last post I described myself and mentioned that my appearance basically gave me "stealth" mode when walking around. Since most of this trip was meant more as a first real foray in RP solo travel, I spent most of each day checking out some tourist site or walking around the streets of the city. This was definitely tremendous experience in planning and executing an entire trip alone, with some local input. There were also several rough instances that really helped hone my street smarts and resilience, and for that, I'm glad.

The numbers:
11 full days spent there
3 notches
4 bangs
4 possible additional notches missed due to the utterly fucked logistics of the place...
15 miles walked
29 cabs taken
4 hours lost to traffic

Game on this trip was passive; if I got lays and such, awesome, but that was not the primary intent. It was great in that it allowed me to explore the city and get the vibe of the places unmolested by people, but if I had been gunning for maximum lays and actively gaming, I would have liked to have a non-Asian wingman with me there to draw more prospects in faster.

So far on my game journey overall, my notches have increased substantially post RP not primarily because I've been better at converting neutrals. Rather, I've gotten much better at finding Yes girls, and in the case of non-Asian Western girls, homing in on the Asian culture loving niche with greater effect.

Here it was mostly the same. Two of the girls were dying over my "cuteness" or whatever the fuck that means. Only the other one I would consider a neutral that I converted through successful game running. It was a SDL from a dinner date, pulled back to my place from Greenbelt 5. My approach turned out to be good; but that's not to say that other approaches wouldn't have worked.

My approach was to show that I had some level of Asian cultural familiarity to bridge the ASD gap faster. I mentioned how the Filipino siopao was actually my favorite dimsum dish from Hong Kong, and how I was so glad it was cheap here, similarities in Chinese and Filipino culture (letting her excitedly talk at length about how they're actually intertwined, blah blah...), and displaying more cultural awareness about how life and society works in the country. I think she was a bit surprised to see how much I already perceived and knew about culture there, but that was a major positive for me.

In Asia, we operate in a niche between the foreign and the familiar. Generally, I like to mix talking about America to gently remind her about the fact I'm not from here, (usually in this case remarking on the traffic, the fucking gigantic malls every 30 ft, everything being under construction, etc.), with shared cultural awareness and experience. It is worth noting that in all three cases, taking into account the fact they could have been lying straight to my face, the girls said they were not interested in "those" foreigners, preferring to stay local with their choice of partners.

Post: #152

(06-25-2016 11:26 AM)IDrinkYourMilkShake Wrote:  During this shift where the hallyu-wave have exploded globaly, there has been two groups of non-korean asian guys in the west. The ones that celebrate this and use it to their advantage (just like the user HOD here) and there is the butthurt haters who cant take that its not their own ethnicity that is in the spotlight atm. This is also a quite young phenomenon which might explaine why some people are so skeptical against its existence, since if you arnt following the latest trends its easy to dont notice it by the western mainstream culture (except Gangnam Styile).

No need to be butthurt like you said. All Asians can ride the wave of "K-Culture popularity." Just makes sure you look physically prime & work on that game

(06-25-2016 11:26 AM)IDrinkYourMilkShake Wrote:  Random teenagers (guys and girls) invited me to their table at a bar in Chinag Mai, they wanted to talk about kdramas and kpop, and they didnt know who justin Bieber, Taylor Swift or any other western artist where (by name that is, im sure they had heard their songs) they just listened to thai music and kpop.

I find that hard to believe, haha.

(06-25-2016 11:26 AM)IDrinkYourMilkShake Wrote:  When I travelled through China I didnt get much attention since evryone there assumes that any asian person is chinese. That is until I opened my mouth, and when they asked where i was from and I answered korean most people took that as something good, immidiatly talking about samsung, k-fashion, actors, dramas, groups and so on. Got my chinese flagg from a chinese tourist (many travel within their own country) at a hostel in Nanjing.
Oh, and Putin Closes, you say that you doubt that chinese mainlanders watch kdramas?

Quote:Descendants of the Sun: the Korean military romance sweeping Asia...
Korean television dramas have always been popular across Asia, but the region may have hit peak K-drama fever with military romance Descendants of the Sun....

But its main fan base lies overseas, particularly China, where so far it has been viewed more than 440 million times on popular video-streaming site iQiyi.com. China has strict rules on broadcasting foreign dramas, but relaxed them for Descendants of the Sun, whose production was reportedly partly funded by Chinese investors.

My Taiwanese cousins indicate a lot of Chinese bootleggers will put out illegally uploaded K Dramas specifically for Chinese audiences. Also, Korean style dumplings are being offered in many Taiwanese shops now. I wouldn't say things were like that in the past, but people in Kaohsiung are picking up on Korean food & embracing it too. This doesn't necessarily mean "other Asians are inferior," but Korean products are picking up steam around Asia and in the world.

(06-25-2016 11:26 AM)IDrinkYourMilkShake Wrote:  Most interesting here are the japanese girls that seems to go to Korea for either study, or just for the weekend to do shopping, eating partying and in both cases to get banged. Its almost comparable to how girls from northern Europe go to the mediterranian for the same purpose.

Could have something to do with their own Japanese guys fucking them right these days....

(06-25-2016 11:26 AM)IDrinkYourMilkShake Wrote:  So, here are my experiences/observations in Asia. Why bringing up all of this? Well, the thread was going on normaly until some guys started pointing out ways to play the k-card and others respondedn with bitter hate and denial of any advantage the hallyu-wave might have given, even against obviouse facts presented by non-koreans and even non-asians. So far I have only seen one k-supremacist race-troll in this thread. And ofc I dont mean that by presenting this that all you need is to be korean to get laid. No, Infact many of my attempts (even the ones where the girls basicly throw themselves at me) failed because my game wasnt tight enough, bad logistics, I escalated to quickly, I suck at breaking down LMR and so on. But its even further from the truth to say that being korean wont give you any advantage what so ever, like some posts suggest, when there is no equivelant for other asian nationalities in the same broad way.
Althou, One thing you rarely hear of is the fact that many thai guys do get a lot of action with foreign girls in Thailand. Probably because the opposit outnumbers it so it gets 'hidden' by it. Also, japanese guys tend to have a lot of popularity that they rarely play out.

Great point. No need to hate.

Also with Thai guys, some middle class and well off ones I know have good diets resulting in better growth potential, complexion, and solid grooming habits. I wonder what they're eating bc the privileged high society ones in Vietnam tend to not grow to their potential unlike their Thai counterparts. Maybe it's the minty herbal light pork diets.

(06-25-2016 11:26 AM)IDrinkYourMilkShake Wrote:  In 2012 I was traveling through South America and got blown away with how much the hallyu-wave had striked even there. In Buenos Aires I was told that there was this thing called "come asiaticos" (trans: eat asians) which was girls that where activly seeking asian guys and to get a kiss from them, or getting together with them. One of the clubs that was had a big screen showing mvideos, and there was a lot of kpop there. Unfortunatly I decided to hang out with brittish frat-party crowd....
In Brazil and Ecuador, kpop flashmobs and dance contest was held.
I have read Brosemits info on southern Brazil, where i havnt been so I cant talk about that part, so when I say South America I mean Argentina, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia and Uruguay. Althou Peru and Bolivia had some of the ugliest girls I have ever seen.
South American girls seems to have a thing for asians in general (not all ofc, but a significant amount) kpop, kdramas seems to just fuel that even more.

Once again, utilize popularity of K products to fuel your Asian game around the globe. No reason to hate. I actually went to a Kpop party in Curitiba though the talent was not very good. I got a makeout with one of the cuter girls there however.

It's best to just daygame or go to a nice venue where you stick out like a sore thumb in Latin America while telling everybody you're from "Asia" opposed to the "West" leaving everything in the imagination of the gals. IMO, you get more exotic points that way opposed to going to a predominantly Asian event where chicks are already expecting to see other Asian dudes around.

You also won't get cockblocked by being a typical Westerner as local dudes will even introduce you to other gals as a result of saying "I'm from (insert Asian country)."

(06-25-2016 11:26 AM)IDrinkYourMilkShake Wrote:  As this forum keeps promoting, Russia is good for men in general, which also includes asians. The 'famouse' racism against asians in Russia is highly exagerated (it obviously exists, but dont belive that its as comon as presented in the west) many russian girls have a great interest in China and studies the language and are activly seeking a chinese husband.

The racism you'll face for being Asian in Russia predominantly comes from bouncers & face control at high end venues. Best to go suited, early, speak English, and definitely make dinner reservations.

Other than that, Slavic gals are very open-minded about Asian dudes.

(06-25-2016 11:26 AM)IDrinkYourMilkShake Wrote:  I agree, I probably gained like 50 homo-points for writing this selfe-promoting shit, but its even more beta to activly deny an existing benefit just because your butthurt feelings cant take it that you dont benefit from it directly...when infact you do (if you are asian).
I have met chinese, filipino and viet-americans/australians who have used this to their own advantage, they dont see it as a rejection for them not being korean, they claim it has smooth the way for them as well. Just like someone else also wrote, in the west the asian guys getting most action outside of their own race are usually SEA-guys (to my observation) I suspect its because they approache more and has more swag. So now we are back to basic, Game.

What's wrong with telling a curious Western chick.."not Korean..but I'm so & so race" while continuing the conversation & escalations? Maybe that was her excuse to strike a conversation with you. Don't be so fucking uptight.

The SE Asian success with women in the West stems from them being easy going, fearless, proud of their roots, but not overly prideful in a way that allows them to speak to females on their level.

Hence why I've come across several southern/midwest chicks in the US that hit me with "I know how you (insert Filipinos, Flips, Viets, Cambodians) roll."

I even got that at XS Club in Vegas from a Midwest chick. Unfortunately, I didn't get to take advantage of that as there were so many conversations with interested gals including a hot one from Singapore & had no idea of who to choose. Logistically, I was fucked too bc it was a family work trip & stayed off strip staying in same room as a relative lol.

Post: #153

It's 3 am here and I just read what it seems to be a masters thesis on I'm assuming a Korean on his experiences.

Guess what wherever I travel I get gawked at also. Without going into detail, I get girls who I talk to straight up freeze up when I speak to them and start giggling and speaking tagalog to their friends or Co workers.

FYI almost all the girls I've banged have dated chinoys. Some only exclusively date chinese and perhaps bang a foreigner on the side. Does that make Chinese the master race in the Philippines. Laughable.

I've traveled thought S.A. and been throughly gawked at also. What's your point?! Do I attribute to my race?! No.

A local shouting Ni hao while smiling is quite common in SA where there's not many asians in general. In fact Chino is the de facto term for asian in pretty much all SA countries.

What I see is another Korean trying to subtly project his feelings through some long drawn out essays using his filtered version of events.

You might want to look just research a bit about sino Korean relations if you think everyone in China watches k pop and is pro korean. Again your natural korean bias and general patriotic tone no matter how you try to tone it down is quite evident.

I have so many personal encounters with anti korean sentiments just as you have many pro korean sentiments. Where I studied it was quite common for the main white student body to talk trash about the Koreans who never assimilated and acted like general dick heads with their loaner bmws.

Yet they are oblivious and think everyone is hating on them cause their jealous.

I don't think it's possible for most Koreans to think rationally about anything related to korean relations. It's in your blood to be fiercely patriotic due to many generations of being run over by other countries.

Nothing wrong with that, just realize you are a relatively small country with a much smaller influence than you've been brought up in school to believe in.

Ask an American what they know about Korea they say psy and pretty much thats it. Korean pop culture is a niche in every sense and will always just be that a niche.

I'm not saying there arent Koreans who pull mass pussy, but it's more of a colorism issue then race in SEA, with exception of Chinese upper middle class who stick to their own. You might have great solid game but attributing to primarily your race is nonsense.

The rest of your observations regarding nea in sea all match up to my experiencss.

Post: #154

delete

Post: #155

(06-25-2016 02:53 PM)Putin Closes Wrote:  What I see is another Korean trying to subtly project his feelings through some long drawn out essays using his filtered version of events.

Lol, if there is anyone here arguing with his feelings, and have a filtered version of events, its you. My long post was just to show (what many other users already pointed out) the existing effects of the hallyu-wave and possibilities to exploit it. When you take all the similar experiences that people have presented, and confirms it with facts you see a pattern. Your respons is to just simply deny it flat out, and say that in reality eeeeryone hates koreans like cab drivers, white expats in the Phils, your white classmates.... yeah, basicly evryone!

Im not denying that tons of people do hate koreans, but that doesnt neglect the fact that the hallyu-wave have had hugh impact on a global scale latly. Neither does it say that koreans are better in anyway, nor that this should discurage other asian guys. Thats your twisted interpretation.

Quote:You might want to look just research a bit about sino Korean relations if you think everyone in China watches k pop and is pro korean. Again your natural korean bias and general patriotic tone no matter how you try to tone it down is quite evident.

I NEVER said that evryone watches kpop or is pro korean in mainland China. I just shared my experiences about mostly positive respons when telling chinese people where I was from. But You wrote:

Quote:The idea that the average filipina or mainlander watches K-Pop is laughable considering they love their Telenovas here and the mainlanders love their Chinese drama shows.

So I just responded with this article [url] http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35888537[/url]

Quote:Descendants of the Sun: the Korean military romance sweeping Asia...
Korean television dramas have always been popular across Asia, but the region may have hit peak K-drama fever with military romance Descendants of the Sun....

But its main fan base lies overseas, particularly China, where so far it has been viewed more than 440 million times on popular video-streaming site iQiyi.com. China has strict rules on broadcasting foreign dramas, but relaxed them for Descendants of the Sun, whose production was reportedly partly funded by Chinese investors.

Which you ignorred, since you dont want to argue with facts, but with your feelings and present a filtered/contradicting respons that fits your little reality. Oh, and Im overly patriotic but trying to tone it down? Give me a clear example of that accusation? Or maybe you are just building up a strawman on me for being overly empathising on what a global phenomenon the korean pop culture has become, a fact that you just refuse to aknowledge so you just label me with shit in a desperate attempt to pull me down, which simply is not an argument.
Kind of contradicting since all you counter argument to anything anyone has to say is that in reality koreans sucks and evrybody hates them, and that the chinese do evrything better. You are the one turning the discussion in some ethnic-polarizing way where it seems more like you are an overly prideful chinese, when I as well could release an avalanche on hate people have expressed for them, including in SEA, but Im not going there since I dont have any hate for chinese people and dont want to bring the discussion in that direction you are moving it towards. You keep doing your thing, by projecting your feelings.

Quote:I've traveled thought S.A. and been throughly gawked at also. What's your point?! Do I attribute to my race?! No.

That the h-wave is big there and keeps growing and just fueles the already existing asian fever over there.... which is kind of more relevant then the superficial way they call all asians for 'chinos' (I speak spanish so dont try to fool me that is has as important impact on asian guys over there like the h-wave, lol). The point of lining up examples of being gawked is that, for me, most of them have been because the girls recognize/suspect that im korean, and it still goes on here in the west. Then you match it up with the smilar stories other users have had and there is the pattern again.
Doesnt mean girls cant gawk at you anyway (obviously).
I dont know when you where there, but realize that this is a pretty new thing.

Quote:I have so many personal encounters with anti korean sentiments just as you have many pro korean sentiments.

But you dont know exactly how many encounters with pro korean sentiments I have had, so how can you then now you have had as many anti? Oh I see, you basicly admited that no matter how many empirical examples I will bring up you will just denie it or agrue against it for the sake of arguing against it, got that already.

Quote:Yet they are oblivious and think everyone is hating on them cause their jealous.

Generalizing much? Oh yeah, I forgot you are just trying to bring evrybody down hehe.

Quote:I don't think it's possible for most Koreans to think rationally about anything related to korean relations. It's in your blood to be fiercely patriotic due to many generations of being run over by other countries.

Ok, so when I say that I have used korean pop culture to benefit my game, and you dont belive that, its me whos being irrationally patriotic. Make sence
And yeah, Korea has been kicked around many times which have made the people very patriotic. Ifact thats usually common for patriotic countries, just like Russia who have had to deal with vikings, mongols, the swedish empire, napoleon, wwi, the soviet intervention, civil war, experiment with socialism, nazi invasion, the collapse of USSR and so on, hence their strong patriotism today with the knowledge of that independence isnt free and when they as a people have suffered collectivly national solidarity gets stronger, which has its pros and cons. Like you say nothing wrong with that, so why bring it up in a negative way?

Quote:just realize you are a relatively small country with a much smaller influence than you've been brought up in school to believe in.

Hehe you see, you dont know me. I didnt grow up in Korea, nor did I go to school ther, I grew up in the west, and for the most time no one knew anything about Korea at all, and I had basicly no contact with the culture, so im very aware that its a small country that havnt had much influence.
But about five years ago I experienced a great shift in that and have since then taken advantage of it, and still do. That comment is so ridiculous since most koreans have little idea of exactly how popular their stuff has becomed abroad, just like you lol. Infact its more fascinating how such a small and insignificant country could make such a global impact (hehe thats right, my overly patriotic blood just kicked in, changing the perspective of your comment).

Quote:Ask an American what they know about Korea they say psy and pretty much thats it. Korean pop culture is a niche in every sense and will always just be that a niche.

Doubt that. First it would probably be the conflict between North and South, second Samsung, then Taekwondo, then Starcraft, and if anything else yeah maybe Psy. Interesting that you put him first, maybe you start to admit things
Most westerners are quite ignorrant about Asia in general, But yeah, ofcourse its a niche, a globaly growing one which attracts a pretty broad crowd.









Anyway, if anyone bothered to read this post and thought that its so much ’eco’, that being me repeating myselfe over and over again. Well, thats because im pointing out PC’s various gaps, and contradictions he presents in his posts. How he ignorre facts and other ppls experiences, using arguments with no substance and trying to fit in Asia (and the rest of the world) to the reality of his little hi-so chinoy-pinoy bubble in Manila, or wherever he is located.
Asian guys, just know that there are possibilities to exploit this, both in Asia and globaly. No hate needed for that, and we are way of topic now. Over and out!

Post: #156

just delete the thread

some people will never change their mind despite all the facts/reality being thrown at them

examples being feminists, socialists, and apparently chinese nationalists

not to mention its the internet where 99% of people have no clue as to what they're talking about (probably even more relevant in PUA land)

Post: #157

(06-29-2016 01:42 PM)whiteknightrises Wrote:  just delete the thread

some people will never change their mind despite all the facts/reality being thrown at them

examples being feminists, socialists, and apparently chinese nationalists

not to mention its the internet where 99% of people have no clue as to what they're talking about (probably even more relevant in PUA land)

I agree,

The truth doesn't matter to most people, people create there own reality.

Some people try to be winners, some people want to be losers.

Some people just don't want to be happy.

I simply don't teach anymore, they always will turn on there teacher, when things get tough. Because that's what there comfortable with,

Post: #158

I honestly don't know how this hallyu wave stuff and spread of korean culture is a bad thing for east asian dudes. If something helps me get girls just take it with both hands and don't be an idiot and sideline a good thing. Most people outside asia, and even asia can't tell the difference at all so take it.

I'm going to flip the script and ask:

How do asian-americans do in South Korea who can't speak korean? is there any strategies you should approach girls with?

My FOB korean friend told me as an western asian with fluent english, korean girls dig it, and said I could bang any girl I want (I highly doubt it).

Also, why bitch about this korean shit? I think it's a bellweather for the future, and I'm happy to be asian. I think it's a good sign for the future to come and I feel like it's only going to get better

Post: #159

yea exactly for the first time being asian is cool

and i was told the same thing by fob koreans before i came here but id say it isnt true

as a korean american many people will expect me to speak korean even if ive spent my whole life abroad

there are some girls who think its cool i can speak english perfectly but its no x factor where just speaking english gets the panties dropping

if theres any "strategy" id say wear height insoles in your shoes if you arent at least 5'11

some other things too but im on an ipad right now

Post: #160

I could easily find the same amount of articles going through CCTV9 and googling a random articles.

I will say this Korean culture has the most influence of any Asian culture, which doesn't say much, cause no one really in the western world gives two craps about Asian culture. For them a Korean and Chinese are all pretty much the same. Funny enough, usually they just say Chinese when they see an Asian.

K-pop has zero effect on my success with women, but hey if you want to keep thinking asian guys are finally cool cause of K-Pop, be my guess. No. If you go out with that Korean haircut in the US, 95% of the white populace that is a big turn off. Same with those Chinese fobby haircuts.

Just banged a nice Caucasian chick who says she only dates Chinese guys. Go figure. Niche game for niche players. Learn to dominate your niche, or be that one Asian guy the girls got to have their "Asian Experience".

Post: #161

First of all, hey to everyone here. I am Peruvian, but I was curious to know more about other cultures. Part of my family is Japanese and Chinese, I have Korean friends. I have read some opinions and I want to give my local point of view even if I am not experienced as all of yours.

ClosesPutin`s statement is true that many foreigners, especially Latins don´t know how to differentiate Asians, they just say chinos (chineses) to every asian. About K-pop influence is a reality, some girls around the world study Korean and dream to be there. The girls who are into Asians, put they love k-pop and Korean dramas in their online profiles. Media is a really important tool to affect people´s, now it is time of Korea , but in the future other countries will be more popular(life´s things).

One point in game is to use certain thing in your advantage, if k-pop influence works for you, you would use, If not, simple don´t use. By the way, there are many extremely post that mention All girls love Korean, most of girls have their stereotype about handsome men and even if Koreans are popular now, there are many girls who are not interested in them, every country has different perceptions. If you say you go everywhere and almost all girls have the Korean fever and they can´t stop see you, then you are a celebrity or a troll.

My latest experience in Cusco, I went to clubs and I found good number of chineses and Koreans gaming white girls and Almost all of them got nothing, then I met a pinoy with good style who was doing well. I also did really well, even some girls opened me with you are latin, right? Despite of my experiences, I won´t say white girls are crazy for latins, my friends couldn`t get anything weeks later. Instead of fighting who is the best, just let`s improve our game, look good,fashion style and develop other parts who become us in a better version.

Post: #162

The K-drama in this thread is hilarious. It's right up there with the penis poll on everything else, pet zebra, and the now legendary Nasa Test Pilot forum civil war.

I'd rank the drama in here as top 5 on rvf.

Post: #163

It's a pretty dumb drama I agree but there is insight to be gained from this.

It's stupid to argue which ethnicity is best but it can be useful to understand why certain girls are attracted to certain trends and features at a particular time.

Also, it is a recent phenomenon that Asian men are being considered attractive not only to Asians but to most races at large now. Although America is a bit behind in this regard, I think we will only continue to see more Asian guys do well with American girls as time goes on.

I think that a distinction should be made between Asian guys' attractiveness to Asian girls and non-Asian ones. My main argument against Putin is that when it comes to what Asian girls find attractive as a whole, Korean guys definitely win in general. However, when it comes to non-Asian ones, they will differentiate much less between Chinese/Korean/Japanese based on their personal experiences and tastes. Unless they are a huge K-pop/drama fan which is a little odd and rare, they will have no preference between the groups.

Post: #164

Quote:How do asian-americans do in South Korea who can't speak korean? is there any strategies you should approach girls with?

My FOB korean friend told me as an western asian with fluent english, korean girls dig it, and said I could bang any girl I want (I highly doubt it)

.

They don't do that well without speaking Korean...your Korean FOB friend honestly doesn't know what he's talking about. How would he know? He's Korean lol. It will be even worse if you look Korean and can't speak any Korean. I've met enough non-Korean-speaking Asian Americans to know this.

The biggest advantage of being Asian-American/Canadian/Australian is the green card potential. The key to green card game is to use it as leverage for quick sex and not letting it place you into the provider role.

This is not for economic reasons, though, since South Korea is very 1st world. The biggest reason is that a lot of women realize that Seoul and Korea in general is not a good place to raise a family because of all the drinking and the constant nightlife. Seoul is a city that truly never sleeps. So a lot of them want to settle down somewhere else, especially if they have ever visited countries like Australia, US or Canada. I've had convos with multiple girls on this issue.

Further, if a Korean girl has a male child in another country he won't be forced to go the army for 2 years like every Korean male is. And overall, it's still a status symbol to have a US citizenship even if that does not necessarily change the economic status of the girl that much.

I always dropped that I was from LA when talking to girls even if I was talking about stupid stuff like how the weather is so good. Has always gotten me good responses.

Post: #165

Woah, I left this thread for 2 weeks and it seems that the Korean war started all over again lol. To echo the thoughts of many here, just use the korean factor if it helps your game. It helped my game so I use it. Why get so uptight about women? Isn't this forum at the end of the day for self improve and finding how to get women that other men can only look enviously at you for doing it? Just do whatever that works for you. If it doesn't work for you, go find one that works for you. Getting all worked up over what women like best is the exact same thing that we laugh at dudes who fight in bars to the death over a woman for.

Post: #166

I know I'm not asian, but I figured I'd chime in since I like to lurk this thread out of curiosity. I always like to know what the other guys are up to in their quest to find the best places for their particular look.

I think you guys should give your thread a chance. We occasionally have some battles in the black men threads, but don't let a few fights kill your desire to help each other.

Remember, at the end of the day, if one group of asians is able to make it work in some foreign countries then the others can do the same. Don't get sucked into a crabs in a barrel mentality.

Same thing goes for black guys. When I hear about African bros doing well in Northern Europe that puts NE on the map for me. I'm mixed, but there is still something I can possibly make work up there.

Either way, I'm rambling, but I do think you guys should give this thread a chance. Don't blow yourselves out of a potentially awesome resource pool for yourselves an for posterity.

Some lurker may read this thread and book a ticket to EE and have his life changed by the info you guys are throwing out there. It'd be a shame for this thread to not reach its full potential.

Post: #167

(07-05-2016 08:01 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  Woah, I left this thread for 2 weeks and it seems that the Korean war started all over again lol. To echo the thoughts of many here, just use the korean factor if it helps your game. It helped my game so I use it. Why get so uptight about women? Getting all worked up over women like best is the exact same thing that we laugh at dudes who fight in bars to the death over a woman for.

The new North Korean/South Korean War, is mostly due to inexperience dudes, projecting there frustration and complaints about there lack of success.

These dudes, are so convince of there failure and only comfortable recreating that failure.

Everyone face failure, its how you deal with it.

I doubt any these guys have actually live in Asia for a long periods of time, or perhaps not even gaming Asian girls in Asia. There just projecting there false belief about game and the reality of living abroad.

Some still harbor contempt towards other men who perhaps living the life they desire.

But at the end of the day. They did no-then to better there position in life.

Furthermore, from my own experience, I have help so many dudes from different ethnic background get laid, get a job, or a girlfriend. Only, to find out within 6 month they would get dump by that very girl or get fire by that job. And than they would blame me for there failures. And a month later ask me for a job, a favor, or how to get a girl.

From my own personal experience of helping Asian brothers out, it always ends badly. Its almost impossible to teach someone to be a winner.

Some guys just want to lose and they will take step to that reality. Because it is way easier to lose. Because that is all they have known.

In the end, I have made so many personal sacrifice and embrace all my insecurities, only to emerge a winner.

Post: #168

HOD, I'm suspecting more and more you are sounds like a guy who's overcompensating online.

Quote:These dudes, are so convince of there failure and only comfortable recreating that failure

Convinced of their failure? Banged two caucasians and a chinese girl last week, not that its pretty impressive by itself, just the fact you try and say anyone going against your points is lousy with women is one that strikes as strange and bizzarre.

Quote:I doubt any these guys have actually live in Asia for a long periods of time, or perhaps not even gaming Asian girls in Asia. There just projecting there false belief about game and the reality of living abroad.

How many years have you live in SEA. A two week trip doesn't count. I am by far not the most long term resident here but have more then a couple years down my belt.

Quote:Furthermore, from my own experience, I have help so many dudes from different ethnic background get laid, get a job, or a girlfriend. Only, to find out within 6 month they would get dump by that very girl or get fire by that job. And than they would blame me for there failures. And a month later ask me for a job, a favor, or how to get a girl.

A "chinese" guy living in the Netherland Antilles saying he helps different people who later come back and blame him. Possible troll.

Quote:From my own personal experience of helping Asian brothers out, it always ends badly. Its almost impossible to teach someone to be a winner.

Ok there.

Post: #169

(07-05-2016 09:40 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  Are we going to have start comparing stats HOD? I'm suspecting more and more you are sounds like a guy who's overcompensating for the lack of experience with women.

Convinced of their failure? Banged two caucasians and a chinese girl in a span of a week, not that its pretty impressive by itself, just the fact you try and say anyone going against your points is lousy with women is one that strikes as strange and bizzarre.

Quote:Furthermore, from my own experience, I have help so many dudes from different ethnic background get laid, get a job, or a girlfriend. Only, to find out within 6 month they would get dump by that very girl or get fire by that job. And than they would blame me for there failures. And a month later ask me for a job, a favor, or how to get a girl.

I smell a troll. A "chinese" guy living in the Netherland Antilles saying he helps different people who later come back and blame him.

Why do you feel compel, to calling me out? or perhaps you are projecting?

I chose the nether-land Antilles flag, because it is kool and mostly to hide my identity.

I have never inform anyone on Rooshv Forum, that I am base in the Netherlands, nor have I ever been there.

Alot of guys on the forum chose false flags, like North Korea or etc to hide there whereabouts.

Furthermore, I have never call you out on your success with women, nor have I question your success. I only wish you, much success.

I was talking about inexperience guys.

In addition, have you ever coach anyone or taught for a living?

Every coach or teacher, will tell you, the key to success in life or anything is about dealing with failure.

You can easily educate yourself on the topic, by talking to any teacher or sports coach. They will explain in great details, what makes a student successful and why they fail.

It has no-then to do with talent, more to do with psychology and attitude.

In conclusion, I have taken extensive graduate courses on the topic of addiction, behavioral psychology, positive psychology and career counseling, and no I do not have a master in psychology. I just enjoy reading the topic, and have ponder the idea of getting a PHD in cognitive psychology.

Post: #170

Yeah I don't really see what the issue is at this point.. There's a complicated relationship between East Asian countries based on history and culture and it seems to be manifesting itself in this thread lol. But really, that was generations ago and no one cares any more. So let's just try to give our own views without stating them as absolutes and thereby shortchanging other people's experiences.

Personally I am Chinese but I see the benefits of the K wave and how it has helped Asian guys' image overall. This has helped a lot when it comes to breaking the nerdy/awkward Asian guy stereotype.

On the other hand, all of the super wealthy Chinese emerging in the last five years or so have also been positive, giving Chinese guys the image of being rich.

There's different ways to leverage these positive traits but either way they are both positive for all Asian guys. Overall, there has been no better time in history for Asian men when it comes to picking up chicks around the world. Well, except for when Genghis Khan and the Mongols had their run.

Post: #171

(07-05-2016 02:06 PM)rungoodinc Wrote:  There's different ways to leverage these positive traits but either way they are both positive for all Asian guys. Overall, there has been no better time in history for Asian men when it comes to picking up chicks around the world. Well, except for when Genghis Khan and the Mongols had their run.

Post: #172

(07-05-2016 02:06 PM)rungoodinc Wrote:  Yeah I don't really see what the issue is at this point.. There's a complicated relationship between East Asian countries based on history and culture and it seems to be manifesting itself in this thread lol. But really, that was generations ago and no one cares any more. So let's just try to give our own views without stating them as absolutes and thereby shortchanging other people's experiences.

Personally I am Chinese but I see the benefits of the K wave and how it has helped Asian guys' image overall. This has helped a lot when it comes to breaking the nerdy/awkward Asian guy stereotype.

On the other hand, all of the super wealthy Chinese emerging in the last five years or so have also been positive, giving Chinese guys the image of being rich.

There's different ways to leverage these positive traits but either way they are both positive for all Asian guys. Overall, there has been no better time in history for Asian men when it comes to picking up chicks around the world. Well, except for when Genghis Khan and the Mongols had their run.

I personally wouldn't leverage my image of being rich. Don't want to carry myself like a walking ATM.

Otherwise, could you elaborate on how you would leverage on these traits?

Post: #173

Quote:I personally wouldn't leverage my image of being rich. Don't want to carry myself like a walking ATM.

Otherwise, could you elaborate on how you would leverage on these traits?

This is more of a game question at this point but in my opinion, most of game is just leveraging your value in a way that gets you laid.

Money/social status can totally be leveraged without being "walking ATM." It all comes down to the frames you are creating in your interactions and the beliefs you hold about yourself. In one of his songs the Weeknd has a line that says "they don't want my love, they just want my potential." This sums it up in a nutshell.

In terms of having money or coming from high social status, the frame you wanna use with girls is that this is her one chance to lock you down and that her best chance of locking you down is getting you hooked on her pussy. The girl sees you as a catch but she knows might lose you if she doesn't put out.

The test-drive metaphor is also applicable here: would you ever buy a car without test driving it first? But you should have solid game if you're running this type of game, otherwise you will be taken for a walking ATM like you said.

As for the image of Asians not being nerdy and awkward, that seems pretty straightforward to me. Just be cool and not nerdy and/or mimic the style of Korean actors/pop stars.

Post: #174

"In terms of having money or coming from high social status, the frame you wanna use with girls is that this is her one chance to lock you down and that her best chance of locking you down is getting you hooked on her pussy. The girl sees you as a catch but she knows might lose you if she doesn't put out."
This works with certain types of girls. Some of the more independent girls with better jobs wont fall for that

Post: #175

Quote:Some of the more independent girls with better jobs wont fall for that

How could you possibly know that? Did you survey girls and ask them what kind of guys they've slept with?

I've been running this type of game for years. Been with plenty of girls who made more money than me. They are drawn to my potential and the fact that I'm young and went to a good school. most girls see me as a catch in the long run. The caveat though is that this kind of game is more useful on Asian chicks for cultural reasons.

It's hard to explain but ultimately it all comes down to confidence and having money/social status gives you confidence... If you use it in the right way that confidence leads to sex. That's what I'm really saying.

Overall, though, I do think that douchebag and aggressive game is more effective for quick sex. But it's best to develop a style of game that is true to who you are, and this kind of game has fit me for a long time.