Post: #26

The first twenty pages of the pdf are art books and a mention of a Hustler's barely legal. The author admits that not of it is illegal or child porn. But that he believes that materials are used for "grooming"

Could someone point me to me to more damning parts of the pdf?

WIA

Post: #27

Probably does not exist. They cannot post kid porn, but like you said, if it really existed, they could have redacted it out like they did the rest. The worst I saw looked like a snuff photo but it is too hard to fully make out.

Post: #28

Do you guys know what kind lawyers Michael Jackson money can buy ? They probably buried this shit so deep back then.

Post: #29

Also:

Quote: Update (June 21, 10:10 A.M.): A representative from the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department gave Vanity Fair the following statement regarding the documents:

Some of the documents appear to be copies of reports that were authored by Sheriff’s Office personnel as well as evidentiary photographs taken by Sheriff’s Office personnel interspersed with content that appears to be obtained off the Internet or through unknown sources. The Sheriff’s Office did not release any of the documents and/or photographs to the media. The Sheriff’s Office released all of its reports and the photographs as part of the required discovery process to the prosecution and the defense.

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Post: #30

Weird for it to just come out. Maybe the estates was going to back out of Sony publishing deal. I can't believe Michael Jackscon owed have of Sony music publishing and his idiot estate sold back to Sony. I think under 1 billion.

Post: #31

(06-21-2016 01:46 PM)Dusty Wrote:  There's rumors that Michael's father had him castrated before puberty in order to keep his voice from deepening. That would explain a lot, including his anger towards his father, his childlike voice and mannerisms, and his fixation on pre-pubescent childhood.

The castration rumor is false. Remember the molestation case where the kid claimed that there was distinct markings on MJ's Penis? The investigators brought MJ in and took photos of his junk. MJ released a statement saying that the police photographed his penis. If he had been castrated, I'm sure it would have been leaked then.

Post: #32

Castration just means balls clipped or removed, not the actual penis itself. If the entire penis is removed, then that is called dismemberment.

Post: #33

Well that definitely would've been leaked during that time, how could they not keep that quiet?

Post: #34

Prosthetic nuts?

Post: #35

(06-21-2016 03:38 PM)weambulance Wrote:  Prosthetic nuts?

How did he father those kids?

Post: #36

Chemical castration. Nuts still there, they just don't do anything.

Post: #37

Jordan Chandler got over $20 million - it wasn't for nothing.

Post: #38

(06-21-2016 11:54 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  That was the excuse given by Pete Townshend, another overrated, annoying performer.

More here.

MJ isn't overrated as a musician, he was great. Agreed with everything else. But consider that geniuses, including musical geniuses are often eccentric if not full on crazy.

Post: #39

I think this is legit. None of it proves that he molested kids, but let's just say that you shouldn't ask people like him to babysit. I don't think this should change the value of his music, most artists are freaks.

Post: #40

I think this is a defamation thing.
Same way there are so many unanswered questions about his death.

Jackson had some problems.. But he clearly wasn't stupid.

He did business so well that he not only bought his while record collection, but owned the Beetles also.
They waited an awful long time to release this news in order to defame the man, just when you think he's finally rested in peace.

Post: #41

If he had child porn why wasn't he charged with possession of child porn ? In California is child porn possession a felony? It Does not add up, if I am the prosecutor in his 2005 case he gets the child porn possession charge in addition to the sex abuse charges.

Post: #42

None of what he's being accused of owning is illegal or meets the restrictions on child porn. AFAIK you can buy it on Amazon if you're so inclined.

Post: #43

Guys, if this is just elites' defamation conspiracy, it means they are not going to legalize pedophilia (any time soon).

Post: #44

(06-21-2016 02:26 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Could someone point me to me to more damning parts of the pdf?

There is nothing in the report that indicated he had any illegal material. The most damning material referenced are the nudist magazines, which are legal.

The porn referenced in the report is also legal. The report writer says these can be used to groom children but it's never mentioned whether he showed them to kids. If there's no proof that he's using it in that way then it's just everyday porn.

The man had some messed up viewing habits but there wasn't a single thing in that report that indicated anything he had was illegal.

Post: #45

Michael Jackson is a case of people creating an image in their minds of a person due to admiration that they simply refuse to face the truth.

We're talking about an obvious homosexual who based his entire life about entertaining young boys on a deserted ranch.

If he was anyone but Michael Jackson you'd see him for what he was. I don't know about this report, but why the hell would Michael Jackson be the world's first and only 'child lover' who was not a pedophile, would you let your own child sleep over at his house?

Interesting also that Jackson was deeply connected to a lot of Hollywood jews. The rabbit hole indeed.

Post: #46

(06-21-2016 07:19 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  If he was anyone but Michael Jackson you'd see him for what he was. I don't know about this report, but why the hell would Michael Jackson be the world's first and only 'child lover' who was not a pedophile, would you let your own child sleep over at his house?

His maids said he'd start crying if parents wouldn't let their children sleep in his bed. He was so out of touch that he couldn't imagine a reason why that might be weird.

I think he saw sex the same way, he didn't think it was wrong so he never considered himself a pedophile. He simply "loved" children. The rest of us were crazy for not understanding that.

(06-21-2016 07:19 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Interesting also that Jackson was deeply connected to a lot of Hollywood jews. The rabbit hole indeed.

This doesn't mean much because literally everyone in Hollywood is connected to a ton of jews. Jews are at every level of the operation. It's like trying to avoid fags or feminists or drug addicts or liberals in Hollywood - they're everywhere.

Post: #47

(06-21-2016 07:19 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Michael Jackson is a case of people creating an image in their minds of a person due to admiration that they simply refuse to face the truth.

I see this as three separate issues.

1. Michael Jackson's talent - Regardless of his personal life he was extremely talented. People will turn a blind eye to his weirdness because he was a great entertainer. Being talented doesn't mean he didn't do the crimes he was accused of. Alternatively doing the crimes he was accused of doesn't detract from his talent.

2. Jackson's overall weirdness - The stuff we know about was messed up. Who knows what we didn't hear about... I don't think there was ever any doubt that he had children over sleeping in his bed with him. He admitted it and even went as far as saying that it's natural. No, it's not. The only reason people will defend him on this is because of how talented he was. I wouldn't be surprised if the allegations against him were later proven to be true. There's plenty of evidence that indicates it, just no publicly available evidence that proves it.

3. Jackson's gruesome stockpile - It's a weird reading list and any reasonable person would be ashamed of it. Yet, nothing in it was illegal according to that report. The reporters deliberately made it sound worse than it was. The porn featured adults, the pictures with kids were separate items. The title of this thread does not accurately reflect what was found in the report.

There is something seriously wrong with a grown man wanting kids to sleep in his bed. And any parent who lets their kid do this, shouldn't be a parent. However this report isn't quite the scandal it's portrayed as.

Post: #48

The thread title reflects what all the articles are saying, I don't think anyone has really delved into the "leaked" report, except the article writers who wanted to push a bias. Or just the first writer, then everyone else just copy pasted off of that.

Everyone who reads the articles, will take them for face value. What if RoK is the only site to write that what is in the report, is not illegal, though weird, instead of hopping on the "micheal jackson is a pedophile" wagon.

Post: #49

Whether this story amounts to anything or not, I'll always believe that Michael Jackson is likely the most bizarre human being to ever walk this earth. Was there any aspect of this dude's life that resembled any kind of normal?

Post: #50

I think it's pretty evident that Michael Jackson suffered from childhood regression; he longed for the innocence he never had, for the childhood that was stolen from him, and he over-identified with children while having the instincts of an adult male.

This is unfortunately an increasingly common disorder these days, particularly amongst the SJWs. Take the following character, Tiny Tina, from Borderlands 2:





In game, she's a 12 year old girl; but her mannerisms are that of a 25 year old woman who regresses into girlishness. Needless to say, you should NEVER allow your children around people like this. They lack appropriate borders or boundaries, and are apt to "play doctor" or simply bring up topics that are utterly inappropriate (EG: discussing bisexual/lesbianism at the kiddies table during Thanksgiving supper).

I think it's also worth considering that Jackson had drugs to fight porn addiction. Undoubtedly he was into some weird stuff, presumably from his weird childhood, but he was fighting against it. We're all becoming more aware of just how quickly porn addiction can create a slide into utter perversity; Jackson was more vulnerable than most, and slid further.

Allowing him to sleep with children was utterly inappropriate, of course; but it doesn't mean he was necessarily a child molester. That said, I don't put that much stock into the child actors who defended him; they could have been threatened or bought off by the Hollywood machine.

It's a sad story all around. I hope that poor man's soul can find peace, and that any of his victims (even if they were merely victims of an inappropriate, non-sexual relationship with an adult) manage to heal and grow from it.

What I truly wonder is: why is this all coming out now? Is it a covert attack on Trump?