Post: #1

Over the last year of his show, it's becoming quite apparent that he's starting to lose his wits with liberals, whom make up a majority of his viewership. While I disagree on some things that he says, he definitely tries to maintain logic and reason in his arguments, and some of the liberal stances recently are definitely at odds with this (particularly the hypocrisy with the support of Islamic ideals). What's your take on him?

Post: #2

He slays too much pussy and generally owns life to melt down, in my opinion. He's cool enough to have dated high profile black women, which is kind of an achievement for a white guy. A serious achievement for a liberal. I bet he has friends who are rappers and like to party.

His neuroses are readily apparent to me but I have no doubt that his smug sense of self-superiority and generally condescending attitude to everybody (conservative or liberal) and generally unwise hard-on for the small details will continue to serve him well. I bet he has a casual drinking and possibly recreational drug habit that may worsen with time but to say I see him set in his ways is an understatement. Maybe pussy is his drug of choice. I'm not one to speculate wantonly.

Post: #3

(06-17-2016 09:58 PM)Hades Wrote:  and generally unwise hard-on for the small details will continue to serve him well.

Why do you say this is unwise?

Post: #4

(06-17-2016 09:58 PM)Hades Wrote:  He's cool enough to have dated high profile black women, which is kind of an achievement for a white guy.

umm I think you have color dyslexia

Post: #5

hmmm.... I was planning to give up watching Real Time, which I've watched since at least 2006, maybe even its inception (can't remember). Entire episodes are devoted to Trump bashing and it's just too tedious.

But this topic coupled with the fact that it's the first ep since Orlando and he's arguably the most anti-Islam liberal out there.... I'll need to check it out. Thanks OP.

And to answer your question: Trump presidency. He's acting towards Trump this way now, how will he be 4 months from now, or if Trump wins, or if President Trump gets inaugurated. Yikes.

Post: #6

Sometimes Bill Maher can be funny even insightful, but often he's just a fucking idiot. I certainly didn't mind watching him and Sam Harris school limousine liberal Ben Asslick, ahem, Affleck on Islam. But lately, Maher's gone WAAYYY overboard on bashing Trump. I can't even stand to watch his show anymore. I can say the same for the Joe Rogan Experience podcast.

Post: #7

(06-17-2016 10:07 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 09:58 PM)Hades Wrote:  He's cool enough to have dated high profile black women, which is kind of an achievement for a white guy.

umm I think you have color dyslexia

Where celebrity is involved the common understanding is inverted. High-profile blacks are not eager to be seen as uncle-toms. A black female celebrity dating a white man is really dicing with a fall from grace.

Ultimately it would depend on how much of the celebrity's following is drawn from blacks and liberals who would despise the notion of her taking white dick.

p.s. Ultimately women are the most viscous racists when it comes to men of their colour engaging in interracial sex. Few things will make them go as instantly bat-shit crazy. It's why you will so rarely find asian woman in the company of non-asian women, unless they are detestably fat and ugly.

Post: #8

I used to watch Maher when I moved to the US as he was the only openly atheist and anti Islam guy on TV but the constant white bashing, the retarded audience, the pussy pedestalizing (he didn't use to be like that, what happened?), the ultra liberalism, the idiocy of some of his guests and his own and so on were too much for me and I stopped watching. Too bad, like Leone said he can be funny and insightful sometimes, but a complete idiot most of the time.

(06-17-2016 09:58 PM)Hades Wrote:  He's cool enough to have dated high profile black women, which is kind of an achievement for a white guy.

I don't want to start any race crap but is dating a black woman considered an achievement for a white guy?

Post: #9

He already had one meltdown (post 9/11) - was trying to be edgy and liberal, insulted our vets and lost his show for a while. Learned his lesson and came back. Thinks a bit before he chooses his victims nowadays.

Post: #10

For some reason bill Maher does a show in Honolulu on new years eve. I went to it once. It was a terrible waste of money. He's an awful stand up comic.

Aloha!

Post: #11

(06-17-2016 11:14 PM)Teutatis Wrote:  I used to watch Maher when I moved to the US as he was the only openly atheist and anti Islam guy on TV but the constant white bashing, the retarded audience, the pussy pedestalizing (he didn't use to be like that, what happened?), the ultra liberalism, the idiocy of some of his guests and his own and so on were too much for me and I stopped watching. Too bad, like Leone said he can be funny and insightful sometimes, but a complete idiot most of the time.

(06-17-2016 09:58 PM)Hades Wrote:  He's cool enough to have dated high profile black women, which is kind of an achievement for a white guy.

I don't want to start any race crap but is dating a black woman considered an achievement for a white guy?

Pretty Fly For a White Guy is a common trope.

I don't want to start a race thread either, just making an observation.

I'd say it's sort of an achievement, yeah. Definitely a status thing. If you're a liberal but you have enough edge and are "real" enough to date high profile and pretty hot black chicks, other SWPLs will look up to you.

(06-17-2016 10:07 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 09:58 PM)Hades Wrote:  He's cool enough to have dated high profile black women, which is kind of an achievement for a white guy.

umm I think you have color dyslexia

I'm about 99% sure he dated Super Head.

(06-17-2016 10:02 PM)nek Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 09:58 PM)Hades Wrote:  and generally unwise hard-on for the small details will continue to serve him well.

Why do you say this is unwise?

People who nickel and dime information and get hung up on little details will never aspire to greatness. Bill Maher has some good insight into various topics but he checks people on his talk show with frankly unimportant nonsense.

I'm sure he'll be crippled by neuroses for life and will possibly turn into some kind of loosely conservative "tough talking firebrand" when he decides to reinvent his own brand of narcissism in his 60s or 70s. The pendulum ought to be swinging that way anyhow - Bill Maher is a smart guy and can see about twenty years ahead in terms of what the political zeitgeist is about.

Cheers guys, some crazy drunk fucker is driving his lawnmower down the street at 100AM and I'm going to go out and screw with him.

Post: #12

I've been watching his shows since Politically Incorrect on ABC before 9/11.

Hes been vocal about his pot use.

He's one of the first people to publicly criticize islam years ago.
I think those comments he made post 9/11 weren't as bad as people think 15yrs later. He even clarified it saying it was a comment on the politics of war and not the brave soldiers.

I like the discussion he has on his shows hes one of the only political talk show host to have a person or people from the other on his show repeatedly because hes friends with them outside of politics.

I think in a few years his views will move farther and farther right.

Post: #13

I doubt he ever has a total meltdown. He, like most celebrities and athletes, know that spouting liberal nonsense is where the money is at. It wouldn't shock me if 50% of the famous people who stand up for the SJW issue du jour don't believe any of it, they are just making a business decision.

I don't normally watch Maher's show but a buddy of mine from high school was a guest tonight so I am interested in checking it out.

Post: #14

(06-18-2016 12:51 AM)kinjutsu Wrote:  I think in a few years his views will move farther and farther right.

(06-18-2016 02:33 AM)Chauncey Wrote:  He, like most celebrities and athletes, know that spouting liberal nonsense is where the money is at. It wouldn't shock me if 50% of the famous people who stand up for the SJW issue du jour don't believe any of it, they are just making a business decision.

You might be right, I noticed that occasionally when he and his guests would be spouting some ultra liberal non sense he would suddenly insert an uncomfortable question into the conversation that would leave them a bit stunned, and give me hope that he wasn't an idiot, and then he would go back to the liberal non sense. His constant Obama dick riding was also annoying as fuck. I still liked his New Rules though.

Regarding Trump, Maher and Trump have had a personal feud going for awhile, I think they both hate each other, so much so that Maher is one of Clinton's big donors, he gave her 1 milion, like he did with Obama.

Post: #15

(06-17-2016 09:52 PM)nek Wrote:  Over the last year of his show, it's becoming quite apparent that he's starting to lose his wits with liberals, whom make up a majority of his viewership. While I disagree on some things that he says, he definitely tries to maintain logic and reason in his arguments, and some of the liberal stances recently are definitely at odds with this (particularly the hypocrisy with the support of Islamic ideals). What's your take on him?

He enjoys his life too much for a melt down. Why wouldn't he? He seems to like his fame, money, drugs and women. He was a regular at the Playboy mansion for years. Maher maintains that he is a comic before a political activist. Whether it is Hillary/Bill or Trump, he is going to have plenty of material for the next 4 plus years.

Post: #16

Maher has always been a tough one to figure. I don't think he'll have a melt down. He makes a lot of sense most of the time. He'll eventually give up on the lefty bullshit, because he realizes it's bullshit.

Post: #17

(06-17-2016 09:58 PM)Hades Wrote:  He's cool enough to have dated high profile black women, which is kind of an achievement for a white guy. A serious achievement for a liberal.

You can not be serious with this

Post: #18

I share many of the same sentiments about the show as others here have noted. Maher's ability to call a spade a spade, even if you disagree with some of his politics, is what made Real Time the best show to watch about politics. Especially compared to the talking heads/idiots on the big 3 news networks.

However, overt partisanship and tribalism is starting to disgust me more and more, to the point where I immediately lose respect for anyone who starts spouting liberal talking points.

For example, in yesterday's episode he was saying how major corporations are backing out from supporting the Republican National Convention because of Trump, and it's because Trump is some kind of unhinged maniac. Um... this totally goes against everything he has ever said about corporate America and corporate money in politics - shouldn't the fact the big multinational corporations hate Trump a good sign for the American people?

It's just one of many minor examples of how his partisanship is blinding his talent for calling out uncomfortable truths.

Post: #19

I shouldn't have watched the episode, damn it OP. Your post gave me hope.

The entire episode was gloating about Trump's collapsing support, mixed in with glorification of single life (specifically single women as the largest voting block in America - fucking great). Almost nothing on the attack and even then, not talking about how he's the only one who's right - his anti-Trump attitude dominates all else including his anti-Islam attitude (which got some token mentions but were way subdued from the past).

Guess I'm done with that show, maybe until their convention week specials if things have turned around by then.

Also, check this out from their overtime segment.

Post: #20

(06-18-2016 12:37 AM)Kona Wrote:  For some reason bill Maher does a show in Honolulu on new years eve. I went to it once. It was a terrible waste of money. He's an awful stand up comic.

Aloha!

I saw him in Toronto around five years ago and I agree.

Post: #21

(06-17-2016 10:55 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 10:07 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  

(06-17-2016 09:58 PM)Hades Wrote:  He's cool enough to have dated high profile black women, which is kind of an achievement for a white guy.

umm I think you have color dyslexia

Where celebrity is involved the common understanding is inverted. High-profile blacks are not eager to be seen as uncle-toms. A black female celebrity dating a white man is really dicing with a fall from grace.

Ultimately it would depend on how much of the celebrity's following is drawn from blacks and liberals who would despise the notion of her taking white dick.

p.s. Ultimately women are the most viscous racists when it comes to men of their colour engaging in interracial sex. Few things will make them go as instantly bat-shit crazy. It's why you will so rarely find asian woman in the company of non-asian women, unless they are detestably fat and ugly.

^^^Very true.

I've gotten the passive aggressive "oh, you like 'ethnic' women" from white women who've tried to set me up with their fat/ugly, lame white friends when they've seen me with non-white women. They can't understand why prefer a petite, pleasant woman over their 'career' obnoxious, fugly friend.

So not only is the whole "you go girl" mentality damaging to feminism, the fact that men seem far more willing to date outside their race than white women just means an exploding cat population.

Anyway, I caught part of Bill Maher last night. The aged hag who wrote "All The Single Ladies" was the interviewee at the beginning.

She basically said:

1) Single woman are strong and independent, yet the government should support them since up until now the government has supported white men.

2) Single women can have families and don't need to 'settle for losers'.

3) Stay at home Moms are losers.

The crowd cheered enthusiastically of course. I found it interesting that she lumped in women with minorities in being oppressed by white men, a classic move by feminists even though they don't give two shits about minorities. On that note, here is an article from Vox (a more left-leaning site) about how white women strongly oppose yet are the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action:

http://www.vox.com/2016/5/25/11682950/fi...ive-action

Anyway, the whole 'settle for losers' thing would be funny if it weren't so dangerous in that it is creating a generation of entitled, lonely single women. But sure, I'll trade in my current cute, pleasant 26 y/o lady (who happens to be white) for one of these bitter hags because their career is so impressive

Post: #22

I sometimes wonder if Maher believes some of the libtard shit he says today. I doubt it. At the very least, I doubt he believes certain things with such passion as he projects.

He can be pretty red pill/no bullshit about a variety of topics (marriage, radical Islam, religion, political correctness on college campuses, etc) but then in the next second go full retard on the libtard stupid shit. His constant hostile anti-Trump bashing is really obnoxious and the Hitler comparisons are really uncalled for. In a slightly alternate universe, Trump and Maher should be great friends: two guys who love to slay good pussy and call out a lot of bullshit. It's unfortunate they can't get along from the looks of it.

Also, maybe it's just in my head but it also feels like the show has turned into "bully/shame the token non-libtard" as oppose to being about having a legit conversation. I don't watch enough or have a huge history with the show so maybe it has always been like this but the episodes from the the past year that I have seen have pretty much looked like gang-ups on the token libtard dissenter. Maher might throw a lifeline or two to keep the dissenter from being totally bullied but the whole show just seems like a giant celebrity libtard circle jerk fest. Tyranny of the mob and all that.

Anyhow, my guess is that Maher is smart enough to know that if he doesn't feed enough red meat to the libtards/SJWs, they will turn on him in a instant; especially in today's climate of twitter mobs and public shaming. If they turn, that means:

No more parties, no mores schmoozing with celebrities, no more face time on TV, no more status, no more libtard circle jerks, and no more money. All of the aforementioned are even bigger deals to him because he has no family or children to fall back on if he decides/is forced to hang it all up for good. I think he learned his lesson with the post-9/11 fallout to not bite the hand that feeds and that being outta of the game suddenly and not on your terms with no kids at an older age is a really lonely life. He had a near death experience with killing the golden goose already and he isn't going to fuck it up this time.

Anyone who is a overt Trump supporter in a liberal area and has/had liberal friends knows that just mentioning support for Trump or other conservative ideas basically means being a social outcast and everyone being triggered by your presence. Shit, you can even trigger cuck republicans too in similar fashion just by expressing support for Trump. In Maher's world, being a champion of any Trump/conservative platforms basically kills his brand, audience, cash flow, and status. He has breathing room to call out some bullshit but he still can't cross certain lines without severe or fatal consequences to his lifestyle. Maher isn't stupid. He knows this; both from a intellectual standpoint and from direct experience.

Without a doubt, the 2016 Neo-Red Guard liberals would eat Maher alive if he crossed certain lines and because he has burned bridges with the conservative/religious community (his religious documentary and comments on religious people did that obviously), he can't go and pivot to that crowd in the event of a libtard revolt. There is also not much of a market for conservative political comedians (like Jon Stewart, John Oliver, etc) and most of Maher's friends are libtards so bottom line:

Maher is trapped regardless of his true beliefs. Whatever the majority libtard audience thinks at the time, he will cater to it while throwing out some non-PC statements from time to time to keep his brand intact. To deviate would be career and lifestyle suicide for him.

Post: #23

^ I also think 'Obama dickriding' is mandatory if you want keep such a high profile tv show. Maher undoubtedly knows that Obama has been a huge disappointment but he has to toe the party line to keep appearing on TV.

Post: #24

What will his show look like under a Trump presidency? Complete 180? Or more of the same?

Post: #25

I don't like (((Bill Maher))).

I gave the guy a second chance given that there is a thread on here, which says some positive things about him.

Well after seeing his show, I still think he comes off as arrogant, condescending, and self-righteous. I agree with others in that I don't find him funny and I see past the laughter of his stupid crowd.

Having said that, the crowd in his show serves a few purposes. First, it serves to hide the fact that he is not funny. Second, it serves to strengthen his illogical and weak positions (which I find ironic because he accuses Trump of populism). Third, it serves to subtly inculcate the viewer with the narrative by presenting an agreeing crowd, which taps into the follow the group instinct of most human. Fourth, it serves to demoralize opposition for the same reason as point three.

It is important to note that other comedy/news hybrid shows such as The Daily Show or Colbert Report use this tactic. It goes without saying that the liberal media establishment takes advantage of the herd mentality programmed in every human to sway and influence public opinion. So in that area, I respect Maher or whoever came with the idea. Nonetheless, it also demonstrates that liberals try to avoid debating conservatives, nationalists, and other people on the right by themselves - namely without a crowd - because their arguments are so weak. If they do debate by themselves, they will either say that the facts/stats are not real and/or begin to shout and bully the other person (see The Young Turks).

I also agree with others that Maher doesn't believe everything he says, but not for the reason that he asks controversial or tough questions. Rather, he doesn't believe the stuff he says because he is a California/Westside liberal, and therefore most likely a hypocrite. I'm from California so I interacted with these people all my life and the delusion and hypocrisy is strong here. For example, before Trump, one of his main talking points were the dangers of islam and political correctness. Now, he doesn't even mentioned them - despite the fact that Trump has raised more awareness about both issues in a year than he has in his whole career - because that might actually help Trump, who, according to Maher, is the next Hitler because it's the year 2016. Furthermore, he is a baby boomer and, in my experience, the baby boomers' hypocrisy and hubris has no limits.

So, if I were to have a conversation it would probably go like this:

• he would probably reminisce on the 1960s, mention how much good change happened, and then complain that the younger generation simply don't "get it"
• he would talk about the liberal topic of the moment - which at the moment is gun control and racism - and say how horrible they are despite living in a gated white community
• bash on Trump and call me an idiot for supporting a "populist" despite the fact he uses populist tactics to advance his (or his master's) agenda.
  

If (((Bill Maher))) loses his show to the SJWs, he probably deserves it. He contributed to the creation of those Frakenstienian monsters.