Post: #26

(06-13-2016 12:29 PM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  Drunkfood game

Seconded. Artichoke Basille's Pizza in Greenwich Village is a great spot for this

Post: #27

I have never thought of it this way, but as I am thinking about this, before exploring the game, I was much more succesful, when going solo. Sometimes it sucks, but it can bring good chicks. I don´t have to care of my wingman and can choose whoever I want to. Some girls even came to me and opened chat with asking if I am alone.
I am definitely more interesting for girls, because I am not one of those drunk guys in groups, I am just a self-confident guy, who is there because he knows what he wants and not because he drank 12 beers.

The only problem might be getting the vibe - when it´s friday night and you are alone. And I know security guys in most of the city clubs and I feel a little bit stupid in front of them, when hitting club alone every weekend.

I was just wondering what to do with free friday. I just stopped drinking for some time. I hit some club, but it´s difficult and sometimes almost disguisting doing that sober... any suggestions?

Post: #28

(06-14-2016 03:02 PM)tomzestatlu Wrote:  I was just wondering what to do with free friday. I just stopped drinking for some time. I hit some club, but it´s difficult and sometimes almost disguisting doing that sober... any suggestions?

I hear you. No matter how old I get, if I'm single, the idea of not going out on Friday/Saturday just seems wrong. I get FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out) on the good times and big groups of hot girls who maybe, just maybe, will want to have a six-some with the guy who shows up to the club alone.

I'm not sure how old you are or what type of environment you live in, but I plan on using this time to:

1. Meet cool guys/wings/expand my social circle. I might travel more to get to RVF or other meetups in my area. Getting pussy is fun and nice temporary ego boost, but friendships can be genuinely rewarding. If you have a fun crew that you enjoy being around, the pussy will flock to you anyway.
2. Relax and recover. A good meal, a light activity, and a good night's sleep is not a horrible alternative to being in a club alone all night.
3. If I have no friends and I really want to get laid, street game in front of bars/clubs/high traffic areas for drunk girls on foot. It's Tinder with instant gratification and without the SIFs.

Post: #29

(06-14-2016 03:30 PM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  

(06-14-2016 03:02 PM)tomzestatlu Wrote:  I was just wondering what to do with free friday. I just stopped drinking for some time. I hit some club, but it´s difficult and sometimes almost disguisting doing that sober... any suggestions?

I hear you. No matter how old I get, if I'm single, the idea of not going out on Friday/Saturday just seems wrong. I get FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out) on the good times and big groups of hot girls who maybe, just maybe, will want to have a six-some with the guy who shows up to the club alone.

I'm not sure how old you are or what type of environment you live in, but I plan on using this time to:

1. Meet cool guys/wings/expand my social circle. I might travel more to get to RVF or other meetups in my area. Getting pussy is fun and nice temporary ego boost, but friendships can be genuinely rewarding. If you have a fun crew that you enjoy being around, the pussy will flock to you anyway.
2. Relax and recover. A good meal, a light activity, and a good night's sleep is not a horrible alternative to being in a club alone all night.
3. If I have no friends and I really want to get laid, street game in front of bars/clubs/high traffic areas for drunk girls on foot. It's Tinder with instant gratification and without the SIFs.

Well, I would say I have a lot of friends. But I realized, that success rate while going alone is bigger, than with friends.
It´s truth, that there are not many good players between them. And when I drink with them, I focus on having fun with them and lose motivation to talk to girls (yes, friends are more important than girls).
Last week I was out 3 times with only goal, but no real success came. There are 3 reasons:
- Recently there are not many girls in clubs, but a lot of boys (we call it sausage-party). So there are not many options to approach and the less you approach ... you know it
- Girls are quite cold. They sometimes cut me off even before starting dialogue. And I am quite good looking, it happened to me many times, that pretty girl approached me in a club, but it´s longer time ago.
- Alcohol. It can help socializing, but as I said, I focus more on having fun with friends, than approaching. I know that I shouldn´t drink so much, but it is part of evening with my friends (I would say the most of them have problem with alcohol). We are beer nation and when we start, we finish at the moment we can´t count how many we drank.

This weekend I will have enough fun with friends, but friday is free for me (I could meet friends, but don´t want to). So I will stay sober and hit the streets. Good idea with drunkfood game. But I hate talking to drunk people while sober.

Post: #30

(03-03-2012 02:09 AM)RC Fresh Wrote:  Going out solo was probably a HUUUUGE confidence builder for me. You will get to a point, like I, where you just don't give a f*ck anymore.

Then is true as it makes you face the challenges of daygame and nightgame all by yourselve so you can't pretend to act all macho/butt hurt in front of friends. Sometimes when friends are around you might even hold back for fear of being judged by the looks of the girl you are approaching.

I highly recommend going out solo as it forces you to be accountable for the time you spent practicing game and it allows you to be comfortable with what approaching style works for you.

I am would deem myself the king of cold approaching girls anytime anywhere after years of practicing and learning you have more to gain than to lose when you do this.

But lately I have been opening up alot of sets of girls who are in groups where I find a girl who is dtf but needs someone to distract her friend. Which is why lately when I goto nightclub venues I roll with my wingman so he can come do his thing as well.

I highly recommend that you do cold approaches not under the influence of drugs or alcohol because you should have to hide behind liquid courage just to game girls.

Post: #31

(06-15-2016 04:25 AM)LA Savage Wrote:  But lately I have been opening up alot of sets of girls who are in groups where I find a girl who is dtf but needs someone to distract her friend. Which is why lately when I goto nightclub venues I roll with my wingman so he can come do his thing as well.

This. Entertaining four girls on one's own (including three who usually want you to fuck off and give them their friend back) is very difficult and exhausting, even for the the best of the best.

If they are competent that's great, but all I ask of a friend or a wing is that they are OK looking, not completely terrified of girls, and have a sense of humor. I'll do every approach, lead every conversation, make them look cool, etc. I don't care.

There only job is to keep me in a fun, social mood in between sets, laugh at my jokes, and give her friends something to stare at while I get my girl to like me. If they can do that, I will throw pussy at them all night and make the evening a lot of fun. I would rather have them fuck up a few sets by sucking than wander around the club by myself.

Fair trade off no?

Post: #32

I love traveling and going out solo but cant do it at home. Its sort of a everyone knows everyone scene so ill admit im too scared to.

I noticed that sometimes i go earlier than my friends, as i relish the time at the bar alone, then they join me after so i get the social proof as well. Its easier to open i find when youre alone.

I should grow the balls to do it at home as well, but it seems too intimidating now to me.

When i travel im very comfortable going out alone. I dont even dance so its a lot of awkward standing around but i still enjoy it.

Post: #33

I've probably rolled solo at nightclubs only 10 times. I much prefer to go with others and have a good time but the act of rolling solo really will improve your game fast. My record rolling solo I can't fully remember but I think I performed a bit worse than if I had social proof, I can remember twice pulling when rolling solo.

I'm a big fan of this thread I will have to roll solo again it's a good exercise and can lead to some awesome experiences. I would recommend a couple of warm up approaches to kick yourself into a social mood, take a taxi talk to the guy, go to 711 pick up condoms and make it not awkward. Go to a bigger club on a bigger night. Might want to arrive a bit later into the night rather than early. You don't want to roll solo in a half empty club trust me haha.

@beirut not rolling solo in your established domain is a good move, I would recommend you trust your instincts. Over time you will know enough people it won't be a problem if you show up alone.

Post: #34

I go out solo 95 times out of 100. Only way to do it. All my 'friends' are fuckwits. I've got a couple of verified player buddies I've met on nights out older than myself (I'm 20, they're 23/25) and sometimes see them out and hang with them between approaches. Learning lots from them.

All culminates in a solid 4-8 new girls a month for me. Lost my virginity a year ago.

If I had kept going out with my 'friends' from school, I wouldn't be doing so well.

edit: I go out like 2x a week, and occasionally smoke up near my place on Bondi Beach and hit on girls as they walk past, get their numbers and fuck them later that night/week.

Post: #35

I go solo 90% of the time. I never had any fear of it. Just been more of a loner since childhood. The few times I go out with buddies I find that our energy has to match in order for this to work. I.E. sometimes I'll be feeling super positive and will want to approach anything with tits and he will feel down and bust the whole evening. And vice versa to be honest.

Also, when winging, guys should be supportive of each other. Leave all the insults and trash talk for normal get-togethers w/o women.

And one final piece of wisdom. There is no better wing than a great looking girl who is truly supportive (not sabotaging you secretly). You get huge preselection benefits. I learned that by going out with my cousin who was hot back in college days - 8.5 easily. Lately I sometimes go out with a chick from the office who is a 9 but told me she'd never fuck me (I actually believe her because I saw who she fucked and those guys are the physical opposite of me. And because she's from work I will not try to prove her wrong and get fed to the HR sharks.). Some might call it beta, but I actually pulled 3 chicks from these "dates" with her. She always heads home first and girls literally approach me as soon as she is gone. All the drinks I bought her were well invested... haha.

Post: #36

Bringing this thread back cause it's relevant to my current situation.

Been out solo on weekends the last 3 weeks. May go out again tonight.
I went out solo 2 or 3 times a few years ago but recently got back into it because I cant always rely on others to be out, and also because most guys have no game and make me look bad.

I've never been the guy who does many approaches, but on the dancefloor it's different because I lift, am good looking and like dancing. I have no problem making out with girls on the dancefloor but I don't know how to get them back.

I've found out that one of my issues was dancing with the one girl too long, it makes you look needy so now I disengage sometimes and dance or makeout with other girls.

I just need someone to teach me how to get them home because I don't know what to do after dancing with them a while and it's almost closing time. Most girls just seem to go home with their friends instead.

Can anybody help me out here?

Post: #37

(03-18-2017 09:29 AM)The King Wrote:  Bringing this thread back cause it's relevant to my current situation.

Been out solo on weekends the last 3 weeks. May go out again tonight.
I went out solo 2 or 3 times a few years ago but recently got back into it because I cant always rely on others to be out, and also because most guys have no game and make me look bad.

I've never been the guy who does many approaches, but on the dancefloor it's different because I lift, am good looking and like dancing. I have no problem making out with girls on the dancefloor but I don't know how to get them back.

I've found out that one of my issues was dancing with the one girl too long, it makes you look needy so now I disengage sometimes and dance or makeout with other girls.

I just need someone to teach me how to get them home because I don't know what to do after dancing with them a while and it's almost closing time. Most girls just seem to go home with their friends instead.

Can anybody help me out here?

This has been written about so many times here. You have lots of options. Try a venue bounce.

"Hey I like dancing with you, come with me to XXX."
"I really want to watch you stuff your face with pizza right now, lets go make that happen."

Make up a lame excuse.

"You need to meet my dog, you look just like her"

Or go direct, just tell them you want them to go home with you.

Caveman game? Grab their hand/pick them up and drag them out of the club with you.

Try out a few different things to get a feel for what works for you in your area.

And don't be shy. Be confident, like it's a normal flow of events. Because it is. This is how one night stands happen.

Post: #38

I go out solo 100% of the time. My friends don't even know game exists, so I won't try to game when they are around.

Right now I am at the stage where I am having short conversations with girls, on the street. For me, it doesn't represent much anymore, but I am sure for them it's impossible.

Post: #39

Always solo, don't have time to babysit or hold someone's hand.

Post: #40

I love going out solo, unless my wing knows what's he'a doing

Post: #41

I have been going out solo for 4 years at about the same time I discovered the game. In the beginning I was scared and frightened to go out alone and deal with the social awkwardness but after many rejections and awkwardness, I insisted and got my first solo-dolo bang. Then I was on fire and never stopped since.

I like the independence and the feeling of "pulling something difficult", meeting girls/groups and moving around spontaneously that going out solo gives me. I rarely go out with wings since they all end up being bad wings and cockblockers.

Post: #42

Bumping, as I'm going to attempt another short solo night at a relatively new venue.

Post: #43

(03-03-2012 02:09 AM)RC Fresh Wrote:  Going out solo was probably a HUUUUGE confidence builder for me. You will get to a point, like I, where you just don't give a f*ck anymore.

The downside is that it is a Herculean effort to get an insta-date or a number when approaching two girls or more. Unless they both get instant attraction, the other is more likely to cockblock or lead the girl you opened away.

Post: #44

(10-09-2017 01:44 AM)Philosopher Wrote:  

(03-03-2012 02:09 AM)RC Fresh Wrote:  Going out solo was probably a HUUUUGE confidence builder for me. You will get to a point, like I, where you just don't give a f*ck anymore.

The downside is that it is a Herculean effort to get an insta-date or a number when approaching two girls or more. Unless they both get instant attraction, the other is more likely to cockblock or lead the girl you opened away.

That's true sometimes, but you'll also get situations where the friend is actively rooting for her friend to get laid. Alternatively, you can just point out jokingly that she's a third wheel now and we need to find a guy for him and ask her who she likes at the bar, then do an intro for her and all of a sudden you have a wingman.

Post: #45

^Yeah experience from the past few weeks has shown that in a smaller set (2-3), the other 1-2 girls will often leave you and the girl alone if the girl is interested in interacting with you.

Post: #46

Going out solo is the best way to improve your game. It's hard first couple of times but after that you will actually want to go alone.

People think that being alone is creepy, weird. But I found out that girls actually have that fetish for lone wolfs sitting at the bar next to them. Maybe they watched too many movies.

Post: #47

There's something "hunt-like" about it as I think of my solo game approach from this past weekend.

It didn't go anywhere with the girl I gamed (and made out with/felt up), but there's something almost thrilling as I think about how I went out by myself seeking meat, and sank my teeth in it (albeit briefly).

Going to scour through RVF to find Solo Game Datasheets & repost here.

Post: #48

(10-09-2017 01:23 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  There's something "hunt-like" about it as I think of my solo game approach from this past weekend.

It didn't go anywhere with the girl I gamed (and made out with/felt up), but there's something almost thrilling as I think about how I went out by myself seeking meat, and sank my teeth in it (albeit briefly).

Going to scour through RVF to find Solo Game Datasheets & repost here.

If you havent read the Gmanifesto blog, you should. He was talking about this extensively, from several years ago

Post: #49

^Checked it out, but paywalls keep coming up.

Post: #50

I've gone out solo a lot of times. Many times out of necessity & also I'd rather get the foundation first than rely on others to pick up my slack.

The major advantage is when you go out with wings, everything seems 10x easier.

In fact, even when I'm out with wings I avoid training in a fashion that makes me rely on wings.

For example, when wings open a set and there's a girl I like in the set, if I can't imagine myself opening the girl solo I would NOT approach her until I legitimately see how I'd do it solo. Obviously this is situational as when my wing needs a wingman quick, I'll do the job.

This is counterintuitive, but builds one thing: resilience in your solo game. Once you do this for a while, your solo & wing sessions will start to feel more similar & you won't feel a massive difference.

At this point, however, I will rather go out with wings than go solo. Why? Because I have gone solo enough times that I have hit a plateau & going out with a wing yields immediate improvements. This is when going out with a wing is constant game improvement & you feel full progress.