Post: #26

If the gunman was a natural US citizen that had been living here essentially his entire life, as opposed to a recent immigrant who was radicalized abroad before arriving, I'm not sure it plays as well for Trump.

Anyone can become radicalized domestically, all that's required is an Internet connection.

Post: #27

(06-12-2016 08:32 AM)Buakaw Wrote:  He does appear to be a democratic party voter

http://flvoters.com/by_number/1144/84524...ateen.html

Another US citizen killing multiple US citizens, damn shame.

Post: #28

CNN confirming the shooter's name is Omar Saddiqui Mateen. Apparently he had some sort of weapons training - don't know if that means he's been to a terrorist training camp.

Post: #29

This'll somehow be chalked up to "workplace violence"

Post: #30

See, leftism is self-correcting.

Post: #31

(06-12-2016 07:06 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Did Trump just win the gay vote?

Guys, this could be yuuuuuge.

We should all put the anti-gay pitchforks down for one moment to let this be an example for nationalism.

Not only could this swing over some of the gay vote, but this has potential to pull the blinders off many liberals who want Muslims coming into our country.

Of course, we need confirmation that he is Muslim first. If he's not, who knows how this will play out.

Post: #32

(06-12-2016 09:01 AM)XPQ22 Wrote:  ...gunman was a natural US citizen that had been living here essentially his entire life, as opposed to a recent immigrant ...

if this is indeed the case, expect the media to give it maximum exposure (the same way they made sure we all knew Zimmerman was "half-white"). Also expect most media coverage to resume this way; "Once again, Donald Trump, still racist."

Post: #33

self-hating gay muslim acting out?

Post: #34

(06-12-2016 09:11 AM)redbeard Wrote:  We should all put the anti-gay pitchforks down for one moment to let this be an example for nationalism.

Why pick them up at all? I don't give a fuck what gay people do in their spare time.

A bunch of people died who had families, probably mothers and fathers who loved them.

I don't agree with their "lifestyle", but they sure don't deserve to die for it.

(06-12-2016 07:22 AM)JacksonRev Wrote:  I feel sorry for the EMT's and other medical personnel. There must be AIDS everywhere.

They were out saving lives, while you were posting on the Internet

Post: #35

(06-12-2016 09:11 AM)redbeard Wrote:  Guys, this could be yuuuuuge.

We should all put the anti-gay pitchforks down for one moment to let this be an example for nationalism.

Not only could this swing over some of the gay vote, but this has potential to pull the blinders off many liberals who want Muslims coming into our country.

Of course, we need confirmation that he is Muslim first. If he's not, who knows how this will play out.

Nah, the left will double down with gun control nonsense.

Post: #36

At the press conference they just said its 50 dead victims . And 53 injured.

http://www.wesh.com/news/nowcast/25819262

Post: #37

I never thought I'd be proven right so quickly. Jesus.

This is by far the worst mass shooting in US history. Not to mention the worst terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11.

Post: #38

Apparently a fan of the NYPD...

   

Post: #39

(06-12-2016 09:16 AM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  self-hating gay muslim acting out?

But enough about Obama

Post: #40

it will be 'police are investigating' status for months, and 'we don't want to speculate on his motives' bullshit since he's a muslim.


Edit: 50 dead now.

Post: #41

Killer is a white male = obsession over 'far-right racist radical extremists'
Killer is non-white male = um, let's talk gun control.

Media will memory-hole as fast as possible like San Berdoo, or, as diversionary tactic, obsess over the 'oppression' gays face in America every day....

Post: #42

The news has a mulsim "leader" on talking about how Islam is not about violence...wink, wink. This senseless attack is not, in any way, condoned by "true" Islam...wink, wink.

Post: #43

(06-12-2016 09:28 AM)LeeEnfield303 Wrote:  Killer is a white male = obsession over 'far-right racist radical extremists'
Killer is non-white male = um, let's talk gun control.

Media will memory-hole as fast as possible like San Berdoo, or, as diversionary tactic, obsess over the 'oppression' gays face in America every day....

No way to memory hole this one, not if it turns out to be one of the worst mass shootings in American history.

Which it looks to be on its way to becoming...

PS: Regardless of the religious or political issues that will surely come up - fuck this cunt, Elliot Rodgers, and the rest. All the wasted lives and families in mourning...and not to mention no matter what this will be played up with the "Violent Sexually Frustrated Angry Male" angle by the media and keep on making the US a shit place for game.

Simps, the lot of them. I hope they're happy in Hell!

Post: #44

(06-12-2016 07:39 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

A thought/question regarding these recent Islamic-terrorism related attacks... How is it in the best interests of Islamic terrorists to commit them? I would think it is not. By performing these attacks, they only risk that the Western world will unite against them. Perhaps it would even lead to Trump getting elected and fulfilling his promise for a temporary ban on Muslims. It might even turn sentiment in Western Europe to re-think the mass importing of "refugees" that they're doing.

I would that the main "goal" of ISIS, and perhaps the goal of other groups throughout the Muslim world... is to "conquer" the West and the world. They are already doing that through their mass-immigration into the West, the fact that SJW's in the West take their side, the fact that "western whites" aren't reproducing as much as they are, etc. There's no need to commit terrorism... Why do it? If they don't commit terrorism, they would most likely "win" and "conquer the world". They'd be better off waiting until they do truly become the majority in the "West"... and then they could "finish off" whomever they'd like, such as whites/christians/jews/gays/etc.

And not to say that the Orlando attack is driven by ISIS, but it does appear to be related to an Islamic-immigrant descendant.

Post: #45

(06-12-2016 09:36 AM)MaDKinD Wrote:  A thought/question regarding these recent Islamic-terrorism related attacks... How is it in the best interests of Islamic terrorists to commit them? I would think it is not. By performing these attacks, they only risk that the Western world will unite against them. Perhaps it would even lead to Trump getting elected and fulfilling his promise for a temporary ban on Muslims. It might even turn sentiment in Western Europe to re-think the mass importing of "refugees" that they're doing.

I would that the main "goal" of ISIS, and perhaps the goal of other groups throughout the Muslim world... is to "conquer" the West and the world. They are already doing that through their mass-immigration into the West, the fact that SJW's in the West take their side, the fact that "western whites" aren't reproducing as much as they are, etc. There's no need to commit terrorism... Why do it? If they don't commit terrorism, they would most likely "win" and "conquer the world". They'd be better off waiting until they do truly become the majority in the "West"... and then they could "finish off" whomever they'd like, such as whites/christians/jews/gays/etc.

And not to say that the Orlando attack is driven by ISIS, but it does appear to be related to an Islamic-immigrant descendant.

You're overthinking it. It's just the nature of the beast.

Post: #46

Report on killer's father

The father says "religion had nothing to do with it" and blames 2 men kissing.

Post: #47

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm

Post: #48

   

Post: #49

(06-12-2016 09:36 AM)MaDKinD Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 07:39 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

A thought/question regarding these recent Islamic-terrorism related attacks... How is it in the best interests of Islamic terrorists to commit them? I would think it is not. By performing these attacks, they only risk that the Western world will unite against them. Perhaps it would even lead to Trump getting elected and fulfilling his promise for a temporary ban on Muslims. It might even turn sentiment in Western Europe to re-think the mass importing of "refugees" that they're doing.

I would that the main "goal" of ISIS, and perhaps the goal of other groups throughout the Muslim world... is to "conquer" the West and the world. They are already doing that through their mass-immigration into the West, the fact that SJW's in the West take their side, the fact that "western whites" aren't reproducing as much as they are, etc. There's no need to commit terrorism... Why do it? If they don't commit terrorism, they would most likely "win" and "conquer the world". They'd be better off waiting until they do truly become the majority in the "West"... and then they could "finish off" whomever they'd like, such as whites/christians/jews/gays/etc.

And not to say that the Orlando attack is driven by ISIS, but it does appear to be related to an Islamic-immigrant descendant.

Do you really think they have a logical organized plan? You're way overthinking this.

They have the same strategy as a single celled bacterium. Germinate and kill in an open wound (in this case open borders.)

Post: #50

(06-12-2016 08:06 AM)Libertas Wrote:  If it was an Islamist attack, this is going to help Trump, heartless as that sounds.

Hillary will be appealing to fear, but as I said, it's an abstract fear. Trump can trump that with a real, concrete fear.

The media outrage will pale in comparison, but Trump is going to force the Overton Window.

Oh, I think this could possibly hurt Hillary. Trump has called for a ban on Muslim immigration. Below is what Hillary has had to say. And by the way, as of 10:40 a.m. Eastern Time, the death count is up to 50.

Article on Hillary from November 2015: Muslims 'Have Nothing Whatsoever To Do With Terrorism'

Here is the Tweet from her that sparked that article: