That would be awesome if they're waiting so they can build a case against both Clintons and their "charitable foundation" for racketeering and bribery.
(06-02-2016 05:55 PM)Libertas Wrote: Hillary's speech today, though I only saw snippets of it, was the best thing she's done so far. The things she's said weren't new, but the one vulnerability Trump does have persuasion wise against her is that people are afraid of him, and she did her best to hammer that home today. We can talk all we want about Trump's game, and its the most magnificent I've ever seen as you all know what I've written on it. For all his skill, people will not vote for someone they're afraid of.
Trump is already doing his best to shake these things off, and he is doing OK, but I do think it's crucial that he at least have someone with foreign policy "cred" as his running made, much as we here may detest it. Doesn't have to be a full-blown neocon, just someone who has the perception of authority on the subject.
Either that or name his cabinet on the campaign trail, which we might have seen some hints of.
Her best line of attack against Trump isn't questioning his experience. Her best line of attack would be to run a positive campaign about how great she is, while swatting aside Trump's comments like an afterthought, in other words, the way Trump is running his campaign.
While it may be the strongest anti-Trump argument she has, on the other hand, calling into attention her experience (her tenure as SoS and the chaos and destruction that ensued) and contrasting it with Trump's anti-interventionist platform raises its own set of issues for her.
Anyone with half a brain understands that Trump's America first anti-new world order foreign policy is fantastic and any criticism coming from someone who armed and funded ISIS while destroying Libya and threatening to do the same to Syria is automatically discredited.
I just watched her robotic foreign policy speech. From the get-go I was beset by a mental repetition of Trump's 'NERVOUS WRECK' slur against Cruz. Her eyes darting around like a lost puppy, her demeanour reminiscent of 'please clap' Jeb. She took about 3 minutes before resorting to just listing Trump quotes, mostly taken out of context. She misrepresented his policies and sold herself on promises that her own history directly contradicts. She will get destroyed in debates so badly, I wouldn't be surprised to see a temper tantrum at some point. She is so completely unprepared for Trump, there is no more apt summation of Clinton's campaign than the 'but it's my turn!!!' meme.
I'm convinced now that we are witnessing the death of an era.
Tom Morello recently called Hillary Clinton, "the lesser of three evils". You figure that this guy would support Bernie given his history of ultra left politics. Morello thinks a free trade, pro-Wall Street Neo-Con is the lesser of three evils? What happened to him?
Quote:CULVER CITY (CBSLA.com) — Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton didn’t quite bring the house down, but a podium did collapse at the end of her speech at West Los Angeles College in Culver City.
Clinton, who is campaigning furiously in California to overtake her Democratic opponent Bernie Sanders in advance of Tuesday’s primary election, spoke before a cheering crowd at a “Women for Hillary” event.
As she wrapped up her speech, Clinton appeared to detect something amiss with the podium, which began to wobble and then went down. She was flanked by Representatives Karen Bass and Maxine Waters, who also appeared startled when the podium went down.
There were no reports of injuries.
According to CNN, the podium was being removed for a photo.
I don't know about you guys, but whenever a Crooked Hillary campaign ad comes on TV, I feel I develop a spontaneous case of Tourette's. (e.g. "Oh shut up, cunt," etc.)
I was watching the news last night, and I swear they played that shitty Hillary ad, the one narrated by Morgan Freeman, during EVERY commercial break.
What a crock of shit! Whoops, there goes my Tourette's again.
I wonder how much they had to pay Freeman to spew that shit from his mouth -- or if he's truly that brainless to actually believe Hillary Clinton isn't a liar. Either way, anyone on her side can fuck right off.
Quote:Hillary Clinton has reached the number of delegates needed to clinch the Democratic U.S. presidential nomination, the Associated Press said on Monday, the day before six states were set to vote in nominating contests.
But the campaign of her rival, Bernie Sanders, vowed to keep up the fight, saying it was wrong to count the votes of superdelegates before they actually cast ballots at the Democratic National Convention in July.
"Our job from now until the convention is to convince those superdelegates that Bernie is by far the strongest candidate against Donald Trump,” the campaign said in a statement. Superdelegates largely consist of party leaders and elected senators, members of Congress and governors.
Clinton, a former secretary of state, reached the 2,383 delegates needed to become the presumptive Democratic nominee with a decisive weekend victory in Puerto Rico and a burst of last-minute support from superdelegates, the AP reported.
She would be the first woman nominated for president by a major U.S. political party.
“According to the news, we are on the brink of a historic, historic, unprecedented moment," Clinton told a rally in Long Beach, California, shortly after the AP report. "But we still have work to do, don’t we? We have six elections tomorrow and we’re going to fight hard for every single vote, especially right here in California.”
Clinton has 1,812 pledged delegates won in primaries and caucuses. She also has the support of 571 superdelegates, according to an AP count.
Do you guys really think it'll end up being Hillary that runs against Trump? I wonder if the top Democrats are going to get spooked by the Bernie Bros. revolting and decide to jump ship to a different candidate, not Bernie necessarily, as he's likely seen as too much of an "outsider" but maybe Joe Biden or some other controllable establishment hack?
Crooked Hillary's e-mail scandal isn't going away, and it's hard to imagine it'll all just get swept under the rug by the time November rolls around. If she gets indicted, she won't be able to stay in the race -- they'll have to switch her out with somebody.
Summer has just started, things are still heating up.
I hope the DNC is a clusterfuck. That would be fun to watch.
RNC is probably going to be boring (Trump is the one and only winner), besides the protesters.
(06-06-2016 10:09 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote: Do you guys really think it'll end up being Hillary that runs against Trump?
100% sure. Neocons from both sides of the political aisle have thrown in with her as a candidate. The establishment will not bend on this and will do everything to make sure she's pushed through.
Bernie is not taken seriously at all. The establishment does not give two shits if some dems are pissed with the outcome. It's not significant enough for it to matter. Outraged Bernie supporters won't do much at the end of the day except shout and throw chairs at a convention. They already know what the worst case scenario is..they saw it in Nevada.
The whole idea that she'll be brought up on actual criminal charges is just a pipe dream. I'm surprised at how many people have this naive faith in the legal system. It does not really apply to the super wealthy and elite. Even if the charges are escalated by a few stubborn individuals she'll end up with a slap on the wrist at most. Mark my words no legally binding charges will stick to her. It will not matter in the least.
(06-06-2016 10:09 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote: Do you guys really think it'll end up being Hillary that runs against Trump?
100% sure. Neocons from both sides of the political aisle have thrown in with her as a candidate. The establishment will not bend on this and will do everything to make sure she's pushed through.
Bernie is not taken seriously at all. The establishment does not give two shits if some dems are pissed with the outcome. It's not significant enough for it to matter. Outraged Bernie supporters won't do much at the end of the day except shout and throw chairs at a convention. They already know what the worst case scenario is..they saw it in Nevada.
The whole idea that she'll be brought up on actual criminal charges is just a pipe dream. I'm surprised at how many people have this naive faith in the legal system. It does not really apply to the super wealthy and elite. Even if the charges are escalated by a few stubborn individuals she'll end up with a slap on the wrist at most. Mark my words no legally binding charges will stick to her. It will not matter in the least.
Yeah, I'm sure you're probably right about her only receiving a slap on the wrist -- if she even gets in trouble at all. But I'd have to imagine after so many years in politics, she's undoubtedly made some enemies. One would hope enough of those enemies might band together to try and make something stick to her. But perhaps she's too powerful and no one would feel like risking their lives to truly try and put her away.
(06-06-2016 10:09 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote: Do you guys really think it'll end up being Hillary that runs against Trump?
100% sure. Neocons from both sides of the political aisle have thrown in with her as a candidate. The establishment will not bend on this and will do everything to make sure she's pushed through.
Bernie is not taken seriously at all. The establishment does not give two shits if some dems are pissed with the outcome. It's not significant enough for it to matter. Outraged Bernie supporters won't do much at the end of the day except shout and throw chairs at a convention. They already know what the worst case scenario is..they saw it in Nevada.
The whole idea that she'll be brought up on actual criminal charges is just a pipe dream. I'm surprised at how many people have this naive faith in the legal system. It does not really apply to the super wealthy and elite. Even if the charges are escalated by a few stubborn individuals she'll end up with a slap on the wrist at most. Mark my words no legally binding charges will stick to her. It will not matter in the least.
Yeah, I'm sure you're probably right about her only receiving a slap on the wrist -- if she even gets in trouble at all. But I'd have to imagine after so many years in politics, she's undoubtedly made some enemies. One would hope enough of those enemies might band together to try and make something stick to her. But perhaps she's too powerful and no one would feel like risking their lives to truly try and put her away.
No doubt she has powerful enemies but those are outweighed by the huge number of self interested powerful people she has on her side.
She's a team player at the end of the day and that's what the establishment wants in a candidate. They need someone who will enact the will of their agenda whether it be political, military, or business. Bill and her have been very good at greasing the right palms with third world kleptocrat style of corruption for at least a full decade. They have been busy little bees.
Unfortunately there won't be any powerful moral crusaders coming to oust her from out of the blue. It would require a group of powerful people who actually have principles and a direct link to the highest offices.
No one is in politics purely on principles alone. Politics is where principles go to die.
Hillary Clinton keeps the moneyed interests, everywhere from the Saudis to Russia to China, happily employed in the "situation normal" of DC.
They're sucking the money out of every deal they can, trying to hide the dirtiness of it. Just look at how ridiculous Clinton's campaign has been, in light of all the evidence that she's a total crook, starting at least with Watergate.
If Bernie gets elected, that may get hurt.
If Trump gets elected, that means all the rats in DC will have to go out and do something productive with their lives as they get thrown out of their wonderful, graft filled existence.
Hillary requires TEN TIMES the staff of Trump, and a MASSIVE amount more money to keep her campaign running. But, guess what?
All those pieces of shit are getting paid still. And as long as that happens, she's their man.
I think in an actual fair and honest election, where ballots are ACCURATELY counted, Trump can win. But do you think with as corrupt as Crooked Hillary is (and how powerful her friends are) that we still have a chance in truly winning this thing? She certainly sounds untouchable. Not trying to be a "concern troll" just genuinely curious.
(06-06-2016 10:47 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote: I believe in a fair and honest election, (where ballots are ACCURATELY counted) Trump can win. Do you think with as corrupt as Crooked Hillary is that we still have a chance in truly winning this thing? She certainly sounds untouchable.
Who knows at this point. I'd say it's a coin toss with every intention to rig it towards Hillary.
Trump is butting up right against the establishment and powerful overseas enemies too with financial interests in the U.S.
Even the previously establishment Republicans who have turned around to support him can't be entirely trusted. Trump is a master of media though so maybe at the end of the day he will lift up enough rocks to expose the worms and parasites so much that the will of the people will overcome that.
I'm still very pessimistic about this whole election and I don't even think the U.S. is really a democracy at this point either. It's more or less an oligarchy with elected representatives of the elite.
(06-06-2016 10:47 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote: I think in an actual fair and honest election, where ballots are ACCURATELY counted, Trump can win. But do you think with as corrupt as Crooked Hillary is (and how powerful her friends are) that we still have a chance in truly winning this thing? She certainly sounds untouchable. Not trying to be a "concern troll" just genuinely curious.
That's why I say that this isn't over yet. It's gonna get weird. People are going to get desperate.
(06-06-2016 09:27 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote: I wonder how much they had to pay Freeman to spew that shit from his mouth -- or if he's truly that brainless to actually believe Hillary Clinton isn't a liar. Either way, anyone on her side can fuck right off.
I'm not surprised by Freeman's opinion on Hillary. Hollywood is a cesspool of leftism and the majority of actors are SJWs. Just look at George Clooney and Angelina Jolie for example. It would actually be surprising if Freeman had opposite views on the matter.
Very convenient timing for the Clinton campaign, right before today's important California primary that Clinton desperately needs to win to look like a viable contender against Trump and to finally get rid of Bernie Sanders. But Sanders has been surging and Hillary has been panicking. And then, AP releases this message.
· Immediately, Clinton's campaign sends out an email to supporters with the good news.
Here's an image in the email:
Fair enough, right? But look at the URL of this image. While AP published the news yesterday, the file name tells a different story:
secret-win-V2-060416c_02.png
Secret win. Version 2. Date: 06-04-2016 which in the weird American way means the 4th of June. That is three days ago. Great unbiased news organization.
And a video from the woman who found out about this here.
It is almost unbelievable how retarded her campaign is. How can you be so sloppy when you are rigging the game and when people already view you as an unreliable and corrupt establishment politician?
Trump and Bernie both should hit her with this if this all checks out. She is indeed rigging the game and in the greater scheme of things, the global news portal AP is a political propaganda tool for the globalists, which we knew but is once more confirmed.
Edit:
Jesus, just had to add this, how stupid can they be? Sending an email with a picture that says "secret win - made three days before we could have known" like a Down Syndrome communications intern. It's unbelievable. Is Hillary indeed a Trump plant? No way in hell, but if she were, she would be doing the same things.
Quote:State Dept. Says It Would Need 75 Years to Release Clinton Emails
Via The Hill:
The State Department said it would take 75 years for the release of emails from top aides to Hillary Clinton while she was serving as secretary of State.
Lawyers said it would take that long to compile the 450,000 pages of records from former Clinton aides Cheryl Mills, Jacob Sullivan and Patrick Kennedy, according to a court filing from last week, which was first reported by CNN.
"Given the Department's current [Freedom of Information Act] (FOIA) workload and the complexity of these documents, it can process about 500 pages a month, meaning it would take approximately 16-and-2/3 years to complete the review of the Mills documents, 33-and-1/3 years to finish the review of the Sullivan documents, and 25 years to wrap up the review of the Kennedy documents -- or 75 years in total," the State Department said in the filing.
This news will be hardest for the rose-colored glasses types out there who still think Her Madameship will get into legal trouble that derails her coronation nomination. Those of us who have been around to smell all of the Clinton stench on American politics know that they are exceedingly accomplished criminals who are difficult to indict. Think Al Capone.
It's pretty ironic that the State Department is now stuck on procedure after letting Mrs. Clinton throw the rules to the wind. You can bet your retirement money that if this were a Republican, State would be having a hiring frenzy that would make the New Deal look like a tepid approach to providing jobs.
The State and Justice departments have been working in tandem to stonewall any real progress on getting the truth out before Hillary becomes the most powerful woman in the world.
Sorry we can't punish you, because the paper trails of all your crimes are so complex that by the time we figure it all out you will long since be dead.