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(05-30-2016 12:23 PM)Libertas Wrote:  This isn't a good development, but the Republican elites have to know that if anyone tries this, the Republican Party base walks forever, so it might be just talk or get squashed by insiders and by Manafort's people.

Walks to where? The base didn't walk to Trump, Trump walked to the base. What is happening in 2016 is entirely due to Trump's singular power to bust through the plutocrat constructed cordon sanitaire keeping a real choice away from the voters. The base would have jumped just as, if not more, readily to an anti-immigration anti-trade candidate in any of the last several election cycles had such a candidate offered himself to them.

That it didn't happen earlier is entirely due to a massive wall constructed by the political, media and financial elites that Trump has managed to smash through by sheer force or fame, wealth, and personality. But if Trump fails this time around, can we really expect anyone to emerge in the near future and similarly smash through the barrier in order to offer the voters a choice they can walk to? I'm not optimistic. Truth is, the plutocrats and their cuck puppets just have to weather this particular storm and then it's back to the utterly hopeless, business as usual.

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Trump MUST win this election. Even if he only serves one-term as president, his impact could be felt for the next century if he's able to have his pick in appointing five conservative Supreme Court justices. Obviously, I'm hoping Trump will not only win this time around but be re-elected in 2020 and get to serve a full eight years in the Oval Office.

If Trump doesn't win, God help us. I hope there are enough people out there who have been inspired by the Donald and emboldended by his refusal to crumble despite being hounded by the entire mainstream media and will one day follow the trail he's been blazing. Maybe it will be one of his sons? Or maybe it'll be someone else outside the Trump family but I have to believe there are still patriots left in this country who will be more than happy to carry the torch regardless of what happens this November.

I don't know anything about online petitions but is there any way we could start up some sort of petition to try and stop Bill Kristol from running a third-party candidate? Trump fought long and hard to become the nominee and he shouldn't have to have the Republican vote split by some fucking douche like Kristol who decides to throw his hat in the ring at the last minute.

Don't lose heart yet, guys. It's still a long road to November and as we know the only thing that's predictable about Trump is that he's unpredictable.

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http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016...y-meeting/

Trump is courting the women vote through women small business owners. He met with a 100 women to discuss issues that affect them.

Quote:The women in the room were clear: they reject the narrow frame of “reproductive rights” within which the left and mainstream media contain women’s reproductive issues. These women told Breitbart News that they want their candidate to champion the economy and small businesses; create a job-friendly environment; stop Obamacare and its damaging effects; get government out of their businesses and their families’ health choices; free up educational choices for their kids, like charter schools; get Common Core out of the classroom; secure America’s borders; improve trade; and stand up to the will of the biggest donors.

Post: #33154

Just saw this on Breitbart's website:

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidenti...-november/

Quote:Ben Sasse, Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz Not Running as Independent Against Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton in November

Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) will absolutely not be an independent candidate for president in November, his team confirmed to Breitbart News on Monday morning. A high-placed source close to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has also confirmed that it will not be him running against presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump and likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton in November. Another high-placed source, this one close to Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), has confirmed that the Texas senator—Trump’s last serious competitor for the GOP nomination—will also not be launching an independent bid for president in November.

Sasse, an outspoken critic of GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump from the beginning, has said he will not support Trump in the general election against Clinton.

Sasse is still holding out against Trump, drawing criticism from even his fellow Nebraskan Sen. Deb Fischer (R-NE)—who told the New York Times his strategy would hand Clinton the election.

“I don’t agree with his strategy,” Fischer said. “I’m not going to hand this election to Hillary Clinton.”

Bush and Trump, meanwhile, tangled roughly during the primary, and he has said he will not support Trump in the general election. Trump repeatedly called Bush “low energy,” and Bush made himself the tip of the spear against Trump for some time. Trump succeeded, while Bush failed, in the primary. Bush dropped out after a dismal performance in South Carolina, but he still refuses to back Trump against Clinton.

“In November, I will not vote for Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, but I will support principled conservatives at the state and federal levels, just as I have done my entire life,” Bush wrote on Facebook back on May 6. “For Republicans, there is no greater priority than ensuring we keep control of both chambers of Congress. I look forward to working hard for great conservatives in the Senate and House in the coming months.”

The race between Trump and Cruz, meanwhile, was easily one of the most vicious in GOP history, where things got personal between the candidates and their families. But Cruz is definitely not running for president as an independent now, even though he has yet to formally endorse Trump after the bruising primary.

Sources close to several other potential high-profile independent candidates, such as 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney, have not yet confirmed one way or the other whether they are going to run. Several sources from Romney’s 2012 campaign are not exactly sure either way, though they believe Romney will end up not doing it. Some Republican officials are nervous it could be him who the Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol has drafted as an independent, and the level of quiet from Romney-land at this time is concerning to some. Two of Romney’s current staffers have not answered repeated inquiries from Breitbart News as to whether he will go down this road, and he is about the only person with the name identification necessary to launch an effective independent bid for the presidency.

Republicans are fairly confident that 2008 GOP presidential nominee Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) will not run as an independent in November and similarly confident that U.S. House Speaker Paul Ryan—the 2012 GOP vice presidential candidate, Romney’s running mate—is not the candidate. Even so, McCain’s offices and Ryan’s offices have not responded to comment requests as of press time on Memorial Day.

If Kristol is unable to get one of those three—Romney, Ryan, or McCain—or another previous candidate for president like Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker or Ohio Gov. John Kasich to run, his quixotic bid is unlikely to be even remotely successful. Walker’s team and Kasich’s team have not immediately responded to Breitbart News inquiries over Memorial Day weekend, but party insiders don’t expect either to launch an independent bid for president.

Every other former GOP presidential candidate from Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) on down to former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, former Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, and all the rest of them have endorsed Trump–except for former New York Gov. George Pataki. If Pataki ran as an independent, though, it would be hard to take his candidacy seriously–he barely ever cracked a single percent in polling during the GOP primary.

For such an independent bid to be successful—success being defined as getting into debates and actually affecting the two major parties’ candidates, Trump and likely Clinton—any potential candidate would have to have enormous name identification already built up. They would also have to have vast resources, or access to major donors, since getting on the ballot across the country in enough states to matter as a candidate would be difficult and, without the backing of a serious party, such an independent could be even less successful than libertarian candidates.

It’s a possibility that Kristol does not actually have a serious candidate, or that he has a backbencher Congressman or former congressman or senator or former Governor lined up. Such possibilities for Kristol’s search for an independent to take votes away from Trump include, sources say, former U.S. Sen. Jim Talent from Missouri or former U.S. Sen. Tom Coburn from Oklahoma. Sources close to Talent and Coburn have not yet confirmed either way to Breitbart News whether they plan such a run.

[Update: A spokeswoman for Sen. Talent, after publication of this article, confirmed that he is not running for president as an independent and is not the candidate Kristol has talked about.]

Getting beyond that list, into House members and former elected officials, the roster is an endless possibility of no-name candidates that would not mean success for those seeking a seemingly desperate independent candidate for president.

[Update: Carly Fiorina’s team also confirmed she is not planning an independent bid for president.]

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Guys, don't forget who Donald Trump is. He is probably looking forward to BTFO whomever Bill Kristol puts in his path. This guy LIVES for conflict and loves kicking ass. He makes a killing building the most beautiful buildings and golf courses in the world and has fucked the world's hottest women. I can tell you from my experience in the real estate and construction industry that to rise to the top like Trump has you must have massive balls, love conflict, and never back down or give up. Personality wise, he has more in common with Mike Tyson than Jeb Bush.

Facebook's memorial day banner today is a bunch of racially ambiguous cartoon women having a good time. Fuck this gay earth. TRUMP NOW.

Post: #33157

MikeCF claims:

[email protected] is violating tax laws by forming a poltical party via a non-profit.

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/737344405867220992

Post: #33158

I wonder if Kristol has lined up Susana Martinez for this Renegade Party run... It just seemed so random how Trump attacked her in Albuquerque especially because Bill Oreilly was pushing her as VP so much. Maybe he knew something?

Edit- @RenegadeParty on Twitter follows three people : Romney, Kristol and... Martinez....

Post: #33159

(05-30-2016 05:13 PM)komatiite Wrote:  I wonder if Kristol has lined up Susana Martinez for this Renegade Party run... It just seemed so random how Trump attacked her in Albuquerque especially because Bill Oreilly was pushing her as VP so much. Maybe he knew something?

Edit- @RenegadeParty on Twitter follows three people : Romney, Kristol and... Martinez....

It's going to be hilarious if this group runs Susana Martinez. The Latina woman to represent the backbone of America (the working white male). Bill Kristol is cuck personified.

Post: #33160

It seems we haven't much to fear in Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate, since he's both in support of open borders and pro-gun control. Neither policy will win him any votes from people who would vote for Trump and may even help to siphon off some votes from Crooked Hillary.

Also, if there is any truth to Susana Martinez being the mysterious third-party candidate backed by Kristol, what a joke! I know it's too early to say for certain but if this is truly who he has chosen to try and stop Trump all I can say is -- good fucking luck, pal. Trump has obliterated his competition in the GOP, successfully picking them off one-by-one despite their experience and the entire mainstream media lobbying against him and now he's supposed to fear this chick?!

I was concerned it would be Mitt Romney, which I suppose it could still be so we probably shouldn't speak too soon, but it seems a lot of people are under the impression he won't want to do it since such a mission would likely be career suicide and all but certainly hand the keys to the White House back over to the Clintons. If Romney has any brains in his head (which is questionable), he won't be willing to do anything that stupid.

Post: #33161

Which version of Joker is Bill Kristol?

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Yo Lizard of Oz:

I believe I found a quote that is relevant to the biases I've claimed you had earlier. Searching through this thread is a pain in the ass, the search features aren't designed to sift through a 1200+ page thread.

/thread-48360...pid1269007

Quote:Yes, we'll see.

I'll say this: if Trump wins Wisconsin, it's basically over. He'll be the nominee. But I think it's very, very unlikely.

Otherwise, my belief -- as it's been for weeks -- is that the primary will come down to two states: Indiana on May 3rd, and California on June 7th.

I think all Trump needs to do is win either one of these. If he wins both, he probably gets to 1237, which would be ideal. But even if wins just one of the two he'll be close enough that he'll be the nominee.

If Trump loses both Indy and Cali then I think we go to a contested convention and he doesn't win the nomination.

All in all, I like his chances; I'd give him about a 65%-70% chance of winning the nomination, which is higher than what the prediction markets are saying right now (they're at about 50%-55%).

I said you were too bearish and right here I'd say is pretty bearish, even though a lot of people were thinking this way.

His odds back then were higher than 70%, they were closer to 85%, and I did say back then that the worst case scenario for Trump was having to take someone like Ted as VP in order to get enough delegates.

Calling Trump the underdog may make sense according to media narrative, but not according to anything describing reality. Trump just gave a speech to tens of thousands of vets in DC today at the Rolling Thunder parade, meanwhile Hillary's name is only in the news because the FBI claims she broke the law.

The other advantages Trump has over Hillary are also extremely numerous. Personality wise, Trump wins over most, and Policy wise, Trump hits the right chords with moderates especially because of trade. Trade is huge and trade is the reason Bernie has put up such a fight against Hillary, likewise trade is going to be one of Trump's biggest selling points.

Too many people have gotten wrapped up in the "demographics are everything camp" yet act like Whites are a minority in this country. Trump is polling close to 75% of White Males and by the time November comes enough women will be past the LMR phase to vote for Trump.

I've said since the beginning that as long as Trump wins 1/3 of women, hispanics, and Blacks he wins the election, Trump wins, but in practice it will come out like this:

45% Women
25% Hispanics
10% Blacks

So the deficit of Blacks and Hispanics will be made up among women. Trump is a player and I'm sure he's gotten past LMR many times. It's a bit sad that in order to win, a player needs to run in order to seduce the females, but that's the way it is.

Conversely, Hillary isn't getting any better looking, so it's extremely unlikely men are going to switch their vote.

So rather than an "underdog," the reality is that Trump has all the advantages and is looking at a 65%-70% chance of winning.

EDIT:

I think this will be the electoral outcome, although I may be too optimistic on the Michigan result:



220 v 318

Post: #33164

(05-30-2016 06:34 PM)kbell Wrote:  Which version of Joker is Bill Kristol?

More like:



Kristol is very much representative of the neo-con establishment and they have spoken..they want Hillary to be president.

Post: #33165

Samseau, I think everything I said in the post you cited was accurate and it was hardly bearish (I was more optimistic than the prediction markets at the time). I was right in saying that Trump would lose Wisconsin, right in saying that Indiana would be crucial (this was early April and nobody was even talking about Indiana yet) and right in saying that a win in Indy would guarantee the nomination. Don't see much to complain about there to be honest.

As for the general election, I've explained my views before. Trump could certainly win, but I think he has the harder task. For now I agree with the aggregate market take, but obviously the odds can and will change before November.

At this moment, I'm concerned about a possible independent run. If Romney runs it could do a lot of damage, so I hope this doesn't happen. We'll find out within the next week.

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Immigrant Shitlord

Post: #33167

Putin's youth army: Russian strongman sets up Soviet-style pioneer scheme for schoolchildren but faces web claim it's echo of HITLER



Vladimir Putin has set up Soviet military-patriotic movement 'Young Army'
So far 104 schoolchildren have joined scheme that has echoes of cold war
Critics drew parallels with Hitler Youth but Russia says it's just about raising generation 'ready to build bright future'










http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ITLER.html
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Why does not Russian let millions of foreign people into their country and let their women and kids being raped and murderer? what is wrong with Russia? why they are so backward? why they do not listen to the all powerful and know it all Markel? so problematic, wow just wow literally Hitler.



In serious, Putin knows shit will hit the fan in Europe soon, and countries without strong patriotism, and identity like Sweden will be hit the harder because there is not youth with sense of self.

I wonder if stuff like this could be done in USA, Trump youth Army, shit will trigger the left so hard.

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(05-30-2016 10:11 PM)Latinopan Wrote:  I wonder if stuff like this could be done in USA, Trump youth Army, shit will trigger the left so hard.

Nah, "youth armies" are not our style here. Some beaming dudes in MAGA hats and sluts making "T" selfies is the American way and thank God for that.

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Something that's been casually developing in my head for the last few days: The next time a snarky leftist asks "At what point in history was America 'Great' that you want to bring it back to?", say "When the top 1% didn't have such a large ratio of the country's money, when the middle and lower class were on an uphill rise in their median income, and when political greed and corruption didn't exist via multi-million dollar donors and Super PACs, ultimately draining power from its people."

It's hilarious because 99% of idiots who ask this question are Bernie supporters and it blows their minds to know that the candidate they hate so much is actually the candidate they should be loving.

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In others news, a week into owning the hat. Very happy I made the investment.

Post: #33170

We used to have the Boy Scouts but they went gay.

The Pioneers existed in the USSR as a thing for young commies. Some nostalgia at work.

Post: #33171

(05-30-2016 12:59 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  Trump MUST win this election. Even if he only serves one-term as president, his impact could be felt for the next century if he's able to have his pick in appointing five conservative Supreme Court justices. Obviously, I'm hoping Trump will not only win this time around but be re-elected in 2020 and get to serve a full eight years in the Oval Office.

If Trump doesn't win, God help us. I hope there are enough people out there who have been inspired by the Donald and emboldended by his refusal to crumble despite being hounded by the entire mainstream media and will one day follow the trail he's been blazing. Maybe it will be one of his sons? Or maybe it'll be someone else outside the Trump family but I have to believe there are still patriots left in this country who will be more than happy to carry the torch regardless of what happens this November

I highlighted that part because it's important to note that if this election doesn't go our way - we are in for the collapse of western civilization as we knew it. That doesn't mean the U.S. will cease to exist or anything, but we're going to see it go the way of Justin Cuckdeau of Canada in that it will devolve into a regressive leftist third world hell hole - and I'm not even considering the judges Hillary would pick should she win the GE. That would just put us over the edge and onto a path of no return towards a cultural/political environment dominated by liberal regressivism.

It's nauseating to think about.

The last few election cycles - I've always found myself downplaying the role of the president and have always felt that these contests were hyped up for television and news outlets to make a few bucks.

Not this time. This time, it's for real.

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Today I got paid on all my wagers that I made in August for Trump to win the primary at +500 and +700. Didn't think that would happen until at least the convention but I'm not going to complain. Did anyone else also get paid out?

I've taken a huge bulk of that money and put it back on Trump to win the presidency at +220. I would've bet it all, but I got hit by the betting limits.

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I know it may be impossible to answer this now -- but do you guys think these additional candidates, Libertarian Gary Johnson and whatever independent candidate Bill Kristol can dig up (if he even can) will hurt Crooked Hillary's numbers at all? Or will they primarily hurt Trump?

It seems like independent spoilers help elect Democrats not Republicans. About a quarter-century ago, Ross Perot's independent bid helped get the first Clinton in the Oval Office -- and I sure as hell don't want to see another independent help put a second Clinton in now. Our country can't take it, certainly not after eight years of the idiot we've had.

We all know The Donald thrives on competition and I believe he more than has what it takes to make these jerks look like jokes. I just hate all the damn suspense and we still have months of it left! It's like a damn soap opera for guys with all its unpredictable twists and turns.

Post: #33174

Trump leads Shillary by 2 points in the traditionally blue state Oregon.



Here are the details of the poll:
http://cloutpolitical.com/wp-content/upl...8-2016.pdf

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(05-31-2016 12:20 AM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  I know it may be impossible to answer this now -- but do you guys think these additional candidates, Libertarian Gary Johnson and whatever independent candidate Bill Kristol can dig up (if he even can) will hurt Crooked Hillary's numbers at all? Or will they primarily hurt Trump?

It seems like independent spoilers help elect Democrats not Republicans. About a quarter-century ago, Ross Perot's independent bid helped get the first Clinton in the Oval Office -- and I sure as hell don't want to see another independent help put a second Clinton in now. Our country can't take it, certainly not after eight years of the idiot we've had.

We all know The Donald thrives on competition and I believe he more than has what it takes to make these jerks look like jokes. I just hate all the damn suspense and we still have months of it left! It's like a damn soap opera for guys with all its unpredictable twists and turns.

I obviously have no idea if Kristol's knight in shining armor is going to siphon votes away from Trump because nobody knows who that's going to be yet, but whoever it is - I really don't think he/she will cause much damage (unless it's Romney).

As for Garry Johnson - he's an open borders anti-gun advocate, there's a chance he could hurt Hillary's campaign but I can pretty much guarantee that Donald's voting block doesn't include people who would compromise on those issues.