Post: #26

Dude I'm sorry that happened to you man. Even though people in my family have had heart attacks I can't imagine what you're going through. Keep your head up man.

On the other hand, thank you for the solid reminder that I need to find a way out of my stressful (and female-dominated) career field, even if it's just starting a business using my skill set. One of my colleagues died on the job at 35 and I've already come close to dying on the job once. That should have been a wake up call.

Post: #27

(05-25-2016 03:42 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  When you get older, the destruction of your soul WILL destroy your body too. They are linked, and anybody who doesn't know this just hasn't gotten fucked by it yet. You'll get cancer, heart problems, ulcers, or a million other problems. They are all primarily rooted in anger and your inability as a man to control your own destiny. Seen it happen to MANY of my buddies.

Being and alpha man who is trapped in a beta life will kill you dead. Don't work for women managers. Don't sacrifice your pride for money, uniess you are building something so great you are willing to die for it.

Remember this post.

Thank you for the reminder. I've had the worst migraine for about 4 days now and it took me a little bit to figure out that it's from stress. I've been stressing about bullshit and it's fucking me up physically. This was a reminder I needed to chill the fuck out and enjoy life. I hope things get better for you in your life and you continue to stay strong. Cheers and thank again.

Post: #28

Thanks for the advice MrLemon. I hope you'll recover well.

Post: #29

Type A personality?

I have been thinking about this many times, and just as many times then push the thoughts away and continue doing everything the same. I'm still reasonably young but I have a very strong headed personality and should take precautions.

What is your game plan? Different job? What else?

Post: #30

This might be a bit slightly off topic but it's been something on my mind consistently.

If/when we die is it possible to have a system that manages to notify RVF(or other online communities) of the news? I mean if you've got a friend/family member you know IRL who can notify the forum, ideally with your password, then that works. But even if you've met up with RVFers if you aren't in consistent contact they wouldn't know for certain what happened to you.

Maybe my thoughts are completely off base but it's an idea I wanted to throw out there.

Post: #31

^ We could have an avatar pop up with a flash notification like Hunger Games. Ya know maybe with some lifetime bang stats and a best quote, cannon sound effect.

Post: #32

Had a stroke myself last fall, so I can sympathize. Fully recovered, but I never know when the black caddy will be coming back....

Post: #33

Did you notice anything days leading up to it? Maybe some warning signs you ignored?

Post: #34

This is an exact copy of what happened to my dad at 48. He's going strong now, but I agree that stress is the driving factor behind these ailments on otherwise bodily healthy men.
God bless you friend. Stay persistent.

Post: #35

(05-25-2016 04:14 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  What's the course of action for treatment after the heart attack? Stents? Bypass? Swallow a handful of BP and cholesterol pills daily for the rest of your days?

It depends on how bad the blockage of artery is and how many arteries are affected in the heart. Usually anti-clot medication, stents, or artery bypass are used for treatment of block artery in the heart. Once that done, monitoring of the heart is done to get how much damage to the heart wall and to catch any rupture of the heart wall due to dead tissue. BP and cholesterol pills are given to decrease the the amount of work an heart and avoid another heart attack. Reduce stress on a person will do wonders. Plus additional doctor's note to women manager to fuck off for couple of week is include when determining a person work environment.

Prognosis is good if Heart attack is caught early. Men are luck to have the classic signs of heart attack: crushing chest pain at rest with pain moving to the left arm or/and left side of the neck. It usually advise that men in their 50's or family history of heart Disease get a yearly EKG to check on the heart function.

Post: #36

MR. Lemon, best wishes on speedy recover. Stress is one of those factors that people forget can fuck you over. I am having that right now with my schooling, you don't realize how much it can affect you physical well being.

Post: #37

One big takeaway we can get from this thread is the proper stress management is a nonnegotiable aspect of life.

Those of us who aren't trust fund babies and have to live in the real world will have to deal with stress at some point. Even our non-corporate location independent entrepreneurial business hustle will cause stress at some juncture.

Regular meditation, physical activity, brainwave entrainment/binaural beats, doing something fun and memorable at least once fortnightly, travel, leaving the corporate world for entrepreneurship, not watching the news, not hate-reading feminist websites ( seriously you're only hurting yourself by doing that ), young pussy, proper supplementation, good diet (healthy fats and no agribusiness foodstuffs), proper sleep, not sweating stupid shit, keeping t levels up, not reacting badly to stress (seriously you think shouting and cussing and punching shit and whatever is "cathartic" but it only makes the problem worse in the long run - don't do it), not surrounding yourself with negativity or snarky negative people, being 18% body fat or less... do I about have it covered?

Your life depends on you doing all of this shit.

Post: #38

I noticed a chest pain and had trouble breathing. I added it up, thought "Oh Shit, this is not going to be the way it will end!" and went to the hospital. Now they've got me on blood thinners and no further signs. It was a good motivator to get my weight down.

Post: #39

(05-27-2016 02:14 AM)Travesty Wrote:  ^ We could have an avatar pop up with a flash notification like Hunger Games. Ya know maybe with some lifetime bang stats and a best quote, cannon sound effect.

Not to take anything away from the gravity of the situation being discussed, but I'd much rather one of the word-smiths of the forum write me something like the movie Tombstone:

Here lies Lester Moore
Bang total of forty-four
Member for 14 years, 8 days
Wrote datasheets on same-day-lays
Like a true Player, he never paid a whore
PM's are turned off- No Les, no more.

Post: #40

(05-25-2016 03:42 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  So I've been out of commission for a few week cause I had a heart attack. I'm in my late 50s and got fucked, well that's what happens to many men.

I'm not writing this post for sympathy, no really, don't say anything because it's actually irritating to get the sympathy bullshit. I'm a man and I take my lumps and fight back.

But I want to warn you guys: as you get older, the more shit you eat (especially from asshole backstabbing lying deceitful incompetent lesbian cunt bosses, see my prior posts on that topic) the more that eating shit eats away at your body.

Here's the thing: I work out, a lot, religiously. I eat great. But I still got fucked, because I've been in a crappy career for the past 5 years that has eaten away at my soul.

When you get older, the destruction of your soul WILL destroy your body too. They are linked, and anybody who doesn't know this just hasn't gotten fucked by it yet. You'll get cancer, heart problems, ulcers, or a million other problems. They are all primarily rooted in anger and your inability as a man to control your own destiny. Seen it happen to MANY of my buddies.

Being and alpha man who is trapped in a beta life will kill you dead. Don't work for women managers. Don't sacrifice your pride for money, uniess you are building something so great you are willing to die for it.

Remember this post.

I wish you all the best and hope you recover.

This is excellent advice. Thanks a lot for sharing this.

Post: #41

It's not about exercising and eating right, it's about peace of mind. Do what you need to do to have it. Even if it means less money, prestige, or poon. If you don't have your health you don't have shit. Find something, anything, that will give you that peace for however much time you have left. FIDO (Fuck It Drive On). Get well. I wish you all the best.

Post: #42

Life will be life. You can change and alter the external circumstances as much as you like, more pussy, more travel, switch jobs, start a business, etc.

And it's good to do these things.

But unless a strategy is developed to maintain a presence of self regardless of your situation, you are jumping without a backup chute.

Shit can rain on the best prepared, best provisioned, and most fortunate men.

There is a part of yourself you can access through your breath that is unaffected by these things, it's the ultimate resource.

How you get there is up to you, there are many, many, ways. But, get there.

For those at a loss and without a clue where to start, most towns have a local Buddhist centre. Drop in, do a course. Learn how to breathe, and go somewhere your mind isn't, for a couple of minutes a day.

The load it will take off the systems of your body is magnanimous.

Post: #43

(05-27-2016 09:26 PM)vinman Wrote:  It's not about exercising and eating right, it's about peace of mind. Do what you need to do to have it. Even if it means less money, prestige, or poon. If you don't have your health you don't have shit. Find something, anything, that will give you that peace for however much time you have left. FIDO (Fuck It Drive On). Get well. I wish you all the best.

I never think about my job when I'm not at the office. No point of getting stressed about work when I'm not at work.

Post: #44

I won't be forgetting this thread in a hurry.

My job is depressing me more and more too. When I left the glass bottles out for the binmen, I surprised myself at how much alcohol I had drank during the week.

My line manager is always there. No matter how early I arrive or how late I leave, he is just 'there'. He is dour, sullen, gloomy, silently ill-humoured, sour, forlorn and miserable. It is not just me who has noticed the heavy cloud of depression bearing down on us.

One woman lasted three weeks before the depressing low vibration surrounding us drove her to leave.

Outside the company, he has nothing going for him at all. Women feel uncomfortable near him. My colleague and I struggle to respect him because we are ex-Armed Forces and we know this type of arrogant man wouldn't last a week in basic training, never mind anything else. This colleague left because he was taking the depression home and it was affecting his marriage.

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Post: #46

welcome the 2nd time to the living

Post: #47

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rsMBKHsaOA&hd=1

Post: #48

Alright mate - first of all sorry to hear this is happening to you. I'm in your age range but fortunately I made some very drastic changes in my life about eight years ago. In a nutshell - I was stuck in a well paid career in L.A. that netted me well over $120k each year - not a fortune in L.A. by any measure but enough to be comfortable. Most of the time I was working as a consultant and there were a lot of gaps in between gigs. When I worked however I got paid well and it was a comfortable gig. Nevertheless I hated every fucking minute of it and was constantly working on the side (weekends and nights) on side projects hoping to finally be able to get out of the 'grind'. I loved what I was doing but I absolutely despised corporate culture - and I also could not deal with the daily commute in L.A.

Not to give too much away but in 2008 I decided to cut the cord and pursued my own venture. It was a risk but I somehow pulled it off. I'm making about the same now but my work is location independent and it affords me a comfortable life somewhere in the Mediterranean. In retrospect I believe that I may have found myself in your shoes (no offense) further down the line had I not managed to get myself out of a profession that I absolutely hated. Again it wasn't WHAT I was doing - it was the daily grind and the corporate culture that completely disgusted me - I was filled with frustration every single day and was literally counting the hours until I was able to go home. Not a way to spend your life, wouldn't you agree?

I don't know where you are or what you are doing. And it doesn't matter as one man's heaven is another's purgatory. All I can offer you is this: Discover what truly fulfills you and then make a b-line for it. Forget about everything else. Nothing else matters but your reality - today and tomorrow. Find some way to leverage your skills and passion and funnel it into an activity that earns you enough coin to live a *dignified* existence. As it is right now you are literally throwing your life away, all you're doing is to serve the system as a disposable cog that nobody gives a shit about. You can be easily replaced and once you're dead they will have little compunction about doing so and will not waste any thoughts on the sacrifices you have made.

One more thing - forget about all the investments you have made into your existing life. They do not matter. Don't throw future time toward recovering already lost time. I know this is cruel and not fair but you put yourself in a position where you are unhappy and it's affecting your health. YOU WILL DIE EVENTUALLY! That is an irrefutable fact (unless we get major life extension in the coming decade). The one thing you do have control over is how you spend your remaining days on this planet. Don't ask anyone else for advice. Don't worry about anyone else's approval. Think it through and then act accordingly without hesitation.

I very much hope to see a post here in the future reporting how you turned your life around. Don't let yourself down.

P.S.: Now I'm working on average 60 hours per week and I'm loving every single minute of it ;-)

Post: #49

I want to back up what OP said; stress can be a killer.

I'm 34, no body builder, but I'm ex-military, I work out almost every day, and I'm the guy who goes mountain hiking during the summer in a leather vest, and a black hat.

Until all of that shit happened to me last year.

Without going into the details - libel being spread about me, a project that should have been great falling apart, and six months of poverty as I finished editing a film on whatever funds I could scrape together through my other ventures.

During that time, I went to go climb a mountain with Aaron Clarey - and I made it three hundred yards before giving up. My heart was pounding in my chest; if I'd tried to keep going I worry that I might have had a heart attack. Granted, I'd been smoking and drinking a bit too much, but this was a level of physical frailty I've never experienced before. Heck, I even noticed that injuries weren't healing at their usual rate.

Things are getting better - the worst of the storm is over - but I'm still recovering from it.

I wish I had some sort of grand lesson that I could give you all, but all I can really say is try and be as anti-fragile as possible. Don't put yourself into the position where one person's decisions can thoroughly screw you over - whether it's a bad boss, or a bad wife, do what you can to maintain a backup plan.

Post: #50

Your body and mind gets weaker with age. Testosterone drops, you go out drinking and it takes 2-7 days to recover.

I'm 37 and I've made the change at 30 to eat right. I have so much more energy. The young kids can't keep up with me at work doing labouring due eating crap food and red bulls/cokes on our breaks.

I'm made the change to only eat organic and use organic products. Most of your don't understand how toxic personal products (shampoo /hand wash/plastic) are which takes more of your energy. Now I have more energy after my 10 hour shift to hit the gym for 2 hours and still be pumped to go out afterwards. I don't drink much these days.