Post: #26

I'll tell them to learn the maths because learning the maths will always result in a good career.

I wish I had learned the maths.

Post: #27

Trolling. All of my kids will be trolls, including the daughters.

Speaking of which:

Post: #28

(04-20-2016 08:43 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Trolling. All of my kids will be trolls, including the daughters.

Speaking of which:

You might want them to spend a summer living with El Mech, so they learn from the best.

Post: #29

Doctors
Chartered Accountant
Engineer

Post: #30

(04-20-2016 08:43 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Trolling. All of my kids will be trolls, including the daughters.

(04-21-2016 01:23 AM)Burzat Wrote:  Doctors
Chartered Accountant
Engineer

Post: #31

Have a kid myself.

The most important thing for me was that my child was raised bi-lingual and achieved native fluency in both languages. We have achieved that.

Now I want my child to follow its passions and develop its creative side as much as possible and pursue its interests as much as possible no matter what those are. Money is secondary to that. Did someone suggest accountancy because it makes good money? Poor kid. Why push your child into a mind numbing cubicle career just to have a larger house. What a wasted life.

Post: #32

^ I see where you're coming from, but as a guy who was pushed to pursue his "passion" as a career by his mother, I don't think that is always a good idea. I really, really wish I had listened to my father and gone into accounting or something else that would have allowed me to find a solid job right outside of school. Don't get me wrong, I'm living abroad doing something I like, but I could have done the same thing with an even bigger bankroll and savings account (security) than I have now if I had studied something more "reasonable."

Perhaps, my opinion is such because I graduated college in 2011 and I'm now approaching 30, but I would be wary of telling an 18 year old (what the hell does anyone know at that age) to pursue a passion as a career. The market is just inundated with so many people doing the same thing.

Now, it's different if you're just helping them cultivate that passion because it's something that they're into and you like that, but I'd be hard pressed to tell a kid to pursue music, writing, art, ballet or any of those things as a career and not feel bad.

They are games where you are culled if you don't make the cut and the cut is high as hell.

Post: #33

Follow your passion is a mixed advice, then you end up with kids that want to be artist or bloggers. Keep them realistic and maybe they can make a living out of their passion. Still real world skills that bring in some money are always better then starving with passion. This passion stuff is new age nonsense where they want that your career is your passion. Can't see who sit all day in an office at a computer or stand in a factory match with that. But it bring home some money to feed yourself and your family. Sometimes you are also good at something but its absolute not your passion, still when you can make a living out of it, go for it.

For me its not that kids should do X when they absolut hate it just because its a good option, but also its not a dreamy wonderland where your passion brings in some benefit. Hell you can have all the passion you want, when your don't have the talent nor the skills, you will never get somewhere with this beside having some fun. As parent you should show your kids opportunities but keep them in touch with reality that there are always bills to pay. I agree with Fortis on that.

Post: #34

Fast food robot technician.

Post: #35

(04-20-2016 08:43 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Trolling. All of my kids will be trolls, including the daughters.

Speaking of which:

I want all of you to train your daughters for this

Post: #36

I would encourage my kids to talk to people who work in the careers. Do NOT choose a career based on magazine articles or so-called statistics. Get out and talk to as many people as possible. Learn what it's really like to work in a field.

Avoid computers or anything related to computers. While it's always going to be important to have some basic computer skills, a career solely in information technology is a sucker's bet.

Choose a career that requires your physical presence. If it can be outsourced or offshored, it will be.

Post: #37

All I can do is try to fill them up with as much knowledge about this world and how it really works, and let them decide for themselves. No idea what I would teach a daughter though, I'll leave that shit to her mother.

Recently I been thinking back to when I would ask my dad about stuff, and he would say, "I'll explain it to you when you are older", I now think he left out the addendum, "when you are old enough not to go blab to your mother about the real shit I'm about to tell you."

Post: #38

(04-20-2016 08:43 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Trolling. All of my kids will be trolls, including the daughters.

Speaking of which:

Would dive in tongue first in both those asses.

Post: #39

I've never met anyone who truly likes their job.

With that factor eliminated:

Engineering + Law degree = Patent / IP attorney: only if can partner track.
Federal Prosecutor that later moves to private sector.
Plastic Surgeon
Easy life in unchallenging profession: One of those specialty sales jobs where you sell something like wholesale liquor in a protected territory or elevator steel and the product sells itself.
Owner of a private police service business (after armed forces stint).
Neuropsychologist
Neurophysiologist
Hospital Executive
Pharmaceutical Sales (if less academically inclined)

Post: #40

I will damn well make sure they start young and work a menial job like McDonald's or unskilled labor doing landscaping or working in a warehouse or something. Or when they are just kids to run a paper route or sell ice cream at the beach.

Just something to get them to recognize the value of money and learn to earn their own keep and socialize with people and go for what they want.

After that they can decide on their own, and if they have any questions I'll be there to help.

Post: #41

Something they like, something ethical and something that brings in money.
If the kid don't agree wth dat, then it ain't my kid.

Post: #42

(05-08-2016 02:32 AM)Tactician Wrote:  I will damn well make sure they start young and work a menial job like McDonald's or unskilled labor doing landscaping or working in a warehouse or something. Or when they are just kids to run a paper route or sell ice cream at the beach.

Just something to get them to recognize the value of money and learn to earn their own keep and socialize with people and go for what they want.

After that they can decide on their own, and if they have any questions I'll be there to help.

I believe this helped me a lot in shaping my worldview. Working my ass off in a chemicals/paint factory during my first summer at college sure did teach me the value of money, and instilled in me the willpower to finish my studies ASAP.

If I have children one day, I'll direct my sons towards medical or energy industry. As for my daughters, I'll make sure they realize the best way for a woman to have a happy life is to forget about career & shit, and instead to focus on marrying, having children and obeying her husband.

Post: #43

It's hit or miss. I'm all for "following your passions", but I'm also a firm believe in keeping your options open.

Here's my take. It's very doable to study pre-med, finance, engineering, programming, law, etc....and then move into a "creative" career. In fact that there's very few professional musicians with music majors. On the other hand it's almost impossible for you to get a theatre major and then move into one of the fields I mentioned above.

Post: #44

Definitely Science/Research/Doctor

Post: #45

(05-08-2016 02:45 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  It's hit or miss. I'm all for "following your passions", but I'm also a firm believe in keeping your options open.

Here's my take. It's very doable to study pre-med, finance, engineering, programming, law, etc....and then move into a "creative" career. In fact that there's very few professional musicians with music majors. On the other hand it's almost impossible for you to get a theatre major and then move into one of the fields I mentioned above.

Yeah man, best thing is to get a solid foundation but simultaneously trying something creative that is very competitive if you have the passion for it - singing, art, acting, whatever. It's tough, but if someone really has the passion & talent for it, they can have an EXTREMELY good life if they make it.

E.g. Mick Jagger studied Economics. Jeff Koons did study Fine Art, but after graduating he got a license as a stock broker and worked on Wallstreet. The money he earned he invested in his art works and then his career took off.

This is the perfect model in my view - get a solid education that makes money, but definitely do follow your passion too.

Post: #46

Rather than comment on the profession I would want my kids to get into, I would like to discuss how this fits in based on gender and the state of the USA based on my own perspective, which I'm sure I share with many of you.

I have 2 girls and a boy. So believe me, I think about this at a pragmatic level every single day.

I know you guys are saying you would want to raise your girls to take care of their man. However, where are these men? To me I see little boys being raised as pussified males that are to conform to the liberal agenda rather than compete with the best of their ability. I don't want those men for my daughters which means I sure as hell don't want them to cook and clean for any of them.

I would much rather encourage my girls to be educated to a point they can take care of themselves in case they have a bunch of pussies around them pretending to be men. However, this still means a "care" based position like Doctor, Dentist, Pharmacist etc. If, in the event they do find someone with masculine values that can protect them and take care of them, then by all means I will be happy.

However, for me to bank on this exclusively through 18 years of raising them is an amateur thought process at best. I'd rather take my chances that my girls need to survive a sea of betas to find an alpha and be prepared to weather that storm while they're in it.

Edit: The boy, however, whole different story. Maybe we'll be the first father son forum combo.

Post: #47

If they don't intend doing something specifically STEM, then I will do everything I can to push them AWAY from university and towards a technical college/trade school type of thing. Minimum student debt, straight into well-paying trade or technical job. They can 'find their passion' as a hobby, until they figure out a way to make a living from it.