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RE: When did polyamory become a thing?
(04-10-2016 06:41 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote: (04-10-2016 06:33 PM)HankMoody Wrote: Every time I meet a guy who is "polyamorous" it's usually the same shit - college educated, liberal, doesn't lift weights, and has a wife that is bangable but nothing to write home about. The type of guy who just loves craft beers, and watching all the latest TV shows.
All I can think is "Wait... let me get this straight. Your wife bangs other dudes and you're cool with it? Do you sit in the corner, cry, and jerk off while it happens? You do know that monkeys jerk off watching alphas fuck the female monkeys, right? Would you be pissed if I fucked your wife so hard that the Earth began to shake? Then blew a big fat one right on her face as she demanded more?"
Meh, It doesn't matter because they usually label me a "douchebag" or a "bro" within 5 minutes of meeting me.
You meet these people regularly enough to have spotted common themes?
I wonder what kind of circles one would have to move in to not only encounter so many people like this, but who also happily divulge such information within the five minutes before labelling you a "bro/douchebag"?
Sadly, yes.
Circles I generally try and avoid at all costs, but sometimes get sucked into for a brief minute or two. "Yes, I'm voting for Trump, yes, I own a bunch of guns, yes I came here with that 21 year old, no I haven't watched that TV show and I don't get the reference."
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RE: When did polyamory become a thing?
(04-10-2016 06:49 PM)HankMoody Wrote: (04-10-2016 06:41 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote: (04-10-2016 06:33 PM)HankMoody Wrote: Every time I meet a guy who is "polyamorous" it's usually the same shit - college educated, liberal, doesn't lift weights, and has a wife that is bangable but nothing to write home about. The type of guy who just loves craft beers, and watching all the latest TV shows.
All I can think is "Wait... let me get this straight. Your wife bangs other dudes and you're cool with it? Do you sit in the corner, cry, and jerk off while it happens? You do know that monkeys jerk off watching alphas fuck the female monkeys, right? Would you be pissed if I fucked your wife so hard that the Earth began to shake? Then blew a big fat one right on her face as she demanded more?"
Meh, It doesn't matter because they usually label me a "douchebag" or a "bro" within 5 minutes of meeting me.
You meet these people regularly enough to have spotted common themes?
I wonder what kind of circles one would have to move in to not only encounter so many people like this, but who also happily divulge such information within the five minutes before labelling you a "bro/douchebag"?
Sadly, yes.
Circles I generally try and avoid at all costs, but sometimes get sucked into for a brief minute or two. "Yes, I'm voting for Trump, yes, I own a bunch of guns, yes I came here with that 21 year old, no I haven't watched that TV show and I don't get the reference."
If this is true and not an exaggeration...well damn.
I need to spend more time in the US to experience this insanity.
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RE: When did polyamory become a thing?
(04-10-2016 06:56 PM)EDantes Wrote: Male polyamory has been fairly normal historically (I've heard it was the Catholic Church in the early days of Christianity which made the push for monogamy; prior to that in the Bible wealthy men frequently had multiple wives or concubines).
The push for female polyamory is just a feminist thing, it's been pretty much non existent save a few obscure cultures like Tibet.
I don't believe females are hardwired to want polyamory naturally just for biological reasons; from a biological POV a man having multiple women has advantages since he can produce more offspring that way, but there are no such advantages for a woman with multiple husbands/boyfriends.
I think an evolutionary biologist would disagree. More partners of the highest quality she can attract is good for her.
Women are just regressing to their base, animal instincts.
The problem for them is that as a result, so are men (pump and dump).
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RE: When did polyamory become a thing?
(04-10-2016 07:04 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote: (04-10-2016 06:56 PM)EDantes Wrote: Male polyamory has been fairly normal historically (I've heard it was the Catholic Church in the early days of Christianity which made the push for monogamy; prior to that in the Bible wealthy men frequently had multiple wives or concubines).
The push for female polyamory is just a feminist thing, it's been pretty much non existent save a few obscure cultures like Tibet.
I don't believe females are hardwired to want polyamory naturally just for biological reasons; from a biological POV a man having multiple women has advantages since he can produce more offspring that way, but there are no such advantages for a woman with multiple husbands/boyfriends.
I think an evolutionary biologist would disagree. More partners of the highest quality she can attract is good for her.
Women are just regressing to their base, animal instincts.
The problem for them is that as a result, so are men (pump and dump).
Have a hard time believing that for a variety of reasons.
For one under normal circumstances (not counting complete beta males) men would be much more likely to get jealous of one another, or fight over who the father of the child is.
These problems wouldn't exist if the man has multiple wives/girlfriends, plus what I've read is that fidelity to women is more about "emotional fidelity" than purely physical fidelity like it is to men.
And as far as I'm aware of, a woman "sleeping with lots of men" has never been a mark of social status in any culture, and been frowned upon.
Some hypersexual women may have a desire to sleep with many men just due to sexual addiction, but sleeping with lots of guys just to "boast about it" like men do doesn't seem natural; rather it seems like something related to the feminist movement simply as a 'reversal' of traditional gender roles.
When women cheat or sleep around, I believe it's almost always due to the guy being a complete beta choad, or terrible in the sack, as opposed to cheating simply to put another 'notch' on one's belt like some men do.
(This post was last modified: 04-10-2016 11:45 PM by EDantes.)
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RE: When did polyamory become a thing?
(04-10-2016 07:04 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote: (04-10-2016 06:56 PM)EDantes Wrote: Male polyamory has been fairly normal historically (I've heard it was the Catholic Church in the early days of Christianity which made the push for monogamy; prior to that in the Bible wealthy men frequently had multiple wives or concubines).
The push for female polyamory is just a feminist thing, it's been pretty much non existent save a few obscure cultures like Tibet.
I don't believe females are hardwired to want polyamory naturally just for biological reasons; from a biological POV a man having multiple women has advantages since he can produce more offspring that way, but there are no such advantages for a woman with multiple husbands/boyfriends.
I think an evolutionary biologist would disagree. More partners of the highest quality she can attract is good for her.
Women are just regressing to their base, animal instincts.
The problem for them is that as a result, so are men (pump and dump).
I believe this is actually incorrect. I'm no scientist, but based on what I've read about evolution, a women with many sexual partners is considered low-value, and less likely to attract a quality mate. Looking at it from an evolutionary standpoint, the men sought the best quality women to have his children. The women women would try to qualify themselves, and from this, the men decided.
So a girl, was a slut, would presumably have children, but no man would stick around to provide for her, and thus she'd die and eventually her lineage would cease to exist.
But who knows....
Polyamory is ass backwards and I think is a direct result of feminism. There's no evolutionary benefit for a female to be with many partners. I do agree that looking at it from an evolutionary standpoint is silly, however, with the invention of condoms and birth control. It's just a combination of men becoming effeminate, and girls wanting the best of both worlds; a provider male, and an endless stream of cocks.
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RE: When did polyamory become a thing?
(04-10-2016 07:04 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote: (04-10-2016 06:56 PM)EDantes Wrote: Male polyamory has been fairly normal historically (I've heard it was the Catholic Church in the early days of Christianity which made the push for monogamy; prior to that in the Bible wealthy men frequently had multiple wives or concubines).
The push for female polyamory is just a feminist thing, it's been pretty much non existent save a few obscure cultures like Tibet.
I don't believe females are hardwired to want polyamory naturally just for biological reasons; from a biological POV a man having multiple women has advantages since he can produce more offspring that way, but there are no such advantages for a woman with multiple husbands/boyfriends.
I think an evolutionary biologist would disagree.
Only an armchair evolutionary biologist would disagree. More sexual partners = vastly increased chances of acquiring an STD, especially before latex condoms were invented.
People forget that even benign STDs (or, what we see as 'benign' today) would wreck the body and the brain and would practically guarantee infertility at the very least.
Go google "What would happen if [INSERT NAME OF STD] is left untreated". That's what would have happened to women who contracted STDs before antibiotics came along.
And that's just one disease
PS: STDs aren't anything new, gonorrhea's symptoms were first described in the 1200s. Had to say that in case any conspiratard claims STDs are a recent 'invention'.
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RE: When did polyamory become a thing?
(04-11-2016 04:21 PM)General Stalin Wrote: No woman is in a "polyamorous" relationship with a man she actually respects and is committed to.
On one side of the spectrum, it's just a misused term that means you casually date different people at the same time never being serious or committed to any of them. On the other end of the spectrum it means you openly (or privately) cheat on your lover because they aren't good enough for you to be sexually exclusive with but they check off other boxes and are spineless enough to go along with it (or maybe they don't know).
Ding dong.
Men who are too feminine to keep their women in check.
That is polyamory.
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