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RE: Terrorist attack against Brussels airport and subway, 30+ dead
(03-23-2016 01:06 PM)Daddy Chains Wrote: Yahoo headlines are making it obvious that we are in the midst of great cultural war:
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Quote:More to the point, Europe was uncomfortable asking its Muslim communities to assimilate. European leaders felt that would be too reminiscent of the colonial era. Their guilt and newfound “enlightenment” guided them to leave these people to their communities, culture, and religion. At the same time, however, they also ostracized them. What resulted was tight-knit majority-Muslim enclaves often on the outskirts of major European cities (like Saint Denis on the outer edge of Paris, where one of the Paris attackers was found).
These communities are volatile places that are not dissimilar, in some ways, to certain American inner cities. They remain close-knit via shared language, Arabic, shared religion, Islam, and a continued influx of immigration from their countries of origin. This is no longer just family reunification. It is common, for example, for second- and third-generation North African immigrants to look to their ancestral home for a spouse. This is most common among men. They want a woman uncorrupted by European values. These marriage practices keep a continuous supply of first-generation mothers having second-generation children.
These problems have now come home to roost. Europe has on its hands millions of Muslims, many of whom, although certainly not all, identify first as Muslims and second as Europeans. They are loyal, at best, to the local Muslim community with whom they share a sense of solidarity, or in its worst manifestations, to ISIS and its global sense of destiny. This manifests itself in its most extreme in attacking the great evil that is the West—even if it has been their home for their entire life. But, as has played out in the last few months, it is also manifesting itself in a large community of people willing to aid and abet terrorist networks in Europe.
What makes this situation so unique, and so dangerous, is the cooperation of foreign and domestic operatives. Syrian fighters, who, according to the Belgian Justice Minister Koen Geens, are coming over “constantly,” are wholly unfamiliar with Europe. But because they are plugged into a network of people who are not themselves terrorists but have little allegiance to Europe and have all the necessary local knowledge, the would-be terrorists can easily move undetected and successfully execute their attacks.
This latest attack in Brussels would not have been possible without this network of native-born, disaffected Muslims. For that, Europe has no one to blame but itself.
Well the article point it out quite well.
For us, these conflicts can be resolved by appeal to the deeply ingrained higher principle embodied in the law, that individuals have the right (within defined limits) to choose how to live. But this Western notion of individualism and tolerance is by no means a conception in all cultures. - Theodore Dalrymple
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RE: Terrorist attack against Brussels airport and subway, 30+ dead
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RE: Terrorist attack against Brussels airport and subway, 30+ dead
(03-23-2016 01:33 PM)Nineteen84 Wrote: (03-23-2016 01:32 PM)Daddy Chains Wrote: ![[Image: 6a00d834530d9f69e20120a62224c1970c-320wi]](http://casadelogo.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834530d9f69e20120a62224c1970c-320wi)
Is it my imagination or does she have a very small head?
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RE: Terrorist attack against Brussels airport and subway, 30+ dead
(03-23-2016 01:33 PM)Nineteen84 Wrote: (03-23-2016 01:32 PM)Daddy Chains Wrote: ![[Image: 6a00d834530d9f69e20120a62224c1970c-320wi]](http://casadelogo.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834530d9f69e20120a62224c1970c-320wi)
Is it my imagination or does she have a very small head?
Probably just a bad Photoshop job. Nevertheless...
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RE: Terrorist attack against Brussels airport and subway, 30+ dead
(03-23-2016 01:37 PM)renotime Wrote: ![[Image: 5bOUTKW.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/5bOUTKW.jpg)
Sadly the "SJW" could be replaced with "Europe", "USA", "Australia", "Canada", etc.
Anywhere that Islamists or organizations that cater to Islamists are "tolerated" has an equal bent for self-destruction. There is a very loud section of society that is simply fatally attached to the absurd notion that violent religious zealots can be "understood and tolerated" into accepting secular humanist ideology.
No degree of terrorist activity, no amount of dead children or others will change their perspective. They will stand there looking down at the dead and say, "See what happens when we don't tolerate and understand them enough!!!???"
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RE: Terrorist attack against Brussels airport and subway, 30+ dead
According to Daily Express:
Quote: Police officers were targeted by locals, many of which were young people, who threw objects including bottles, according Belgian newspaper La Libre.
Also after the attacks on the airport there were minor riots with the police, straight there and then. These boys are the terrorists of tomorrow.
Just ten minutes walking from metro station Maelbeek, there is the Great Mosque of Brussels.
Quote:French daily newspaper "Libération" wrote, "For thirty years, the Great Mosque of Brussels has been an active Salafist refuge, offering fertile soil for their networks to grow."
Belgian politicians are f*cking blind.
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RE: Terrorist attack against Brussels airport and subway, 30+ dead
http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/artic...hwarz.html
Quote:Are French intelligence services totally overwhelmed with the terrorist threat? Yes, say French high security officials, who prefer to remain anonymous. "Not a week goes without we received one or more indications that an attack is imminent in France." With these words, the daily newspaper "Libération" quoted a "highly placed" police source. The man adds that the onslaught of information is so great that evening he catch himself thinking: ". Phew, now it's just gone again good"
Quote:For five years, the range of potential perpetrators has grown by 150 percent. She goes from Islamists Veteran up to the suicidal student who accumulates on the road a Jew with a cleaver.
For "some politicians" who want to make it have particularly well with the integration of Muslims, was "perhaps a form of naivete" been in the game.
Quote:Not only in Belgium, everywhere in Europe and in France have one's eyes closed in the face of "extremist Gedankenguts of Salafists," Valls said Wednesday morning the radio station Europe 1. And throughout the mixture of "drug trafficking and radical Islamism have a part of the Youth perverted ". Faced with the utterances of his labor minister Sapin Valls said: "My job is not to give the Belgians lessons We also districts in France who are under the influence of drug dealers and Salafists.." Even in summer Valls had the cards on the table: The question is not whether another attack takes place, but when. An admission of powerlessness, which has not lost to this day actuality.
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RE: Terrorist attack against Brussels airport and subway, 30+ dead
^Yeah, that's what the mainstream news say, at least about Laachraoui. No reason not to believe it:
Quote:Wie der Bayerische Rundfunk unter Berufung auf den ZDF-Terrorismusexperten Elmar Teveßen berichtet, soll Abdeslam den 24-Jährigen und einen weiteren Mann mit einem Mietauto aus einer Flüchtlingsunterkunft in Budapest abgeholt und nach Brüssel gebracht haben. Die Kontrolle an der österreich-ungarischen Grenze blieb demnach erfolglos, weil es offenbar keine Hinweise auf eine Terrorverbindung in den Datenbanken gegeben hatte.
http://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/komp...79875.html
"Relying on ZDF-Terrorism-Expert Elmar Teveßen, the Bavarian Broadcasting reports that Abdeslam picked up the 24-year old (Laachraoui) and another man from a refugee-camp in Budapest and brought them to Brussels by car. Border control between Austria and Hungary was ineffective as there was no info on him being terror-related available in the database."
Quote:Laachraoui soll Medienberichten zufolge von 2013 bis 2015 mit Salah Abdeslam in Syrien gewesen sein. Er war Teil einer der ersten Gruppe aus Brüssel, die sich dem IS angeschlossen hat.
http://www.n-tv.de/politik/Was-wir-ueber...97311.html
Between 2013 and 2015, Laachraoui was allegedly in Syria with Abdeslam. He was part of the first group from Brussels that joined ISIS.
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RE: Terrorist attack against Brussels airport and subway, 30+ dead
(03-23-2016 03:29 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote: (03-23-2016 02:57 PM)Ruben Plaza Wrote: Quote:French daily newspaper "Libération" wrote, "For thirty years, the Great Mosque of Brussels has been an active Salafist refuge, offering fertile soil for their networks to grow."
Belgian politicians are f*cking blind.
Not blind, just evil.
In my experience still incompetent and blind nonetheless.
Saw a lot of discussion happen today, literally everywhere.
I'd say sjw's and nationalists are pretty much split 50-50, though it seems like 70-30 because naturally my ears gravitate more towards things i disagree with right now. What's weird is this : even nationalists at heart don't want to associate with the nationalist party.
The media did a really good job at making them political outcasts.
there was a debate between the leader of the nationalist party and the leader of sharia4belgium a couple of years ago, it's pretty good but i can't find a link with english subtitles, let me know if you guys want me to post the link.
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RE: Terrorist attack against Brussels airport and subway, 30+ dead
(03-23-2016 01:30 AM)syrianguy Wrote: Muslims might not outright support ISIS, at least not openly, but ask them the following questions:
Do you want Sharia laws? Answer is unequivocally yes
Do you support killing of apostate? of course
Do you support the killing of the cartoonists (or criticism of their prophet) ? A lot of dancing around but most support severe retribution
I'll answer them honestly for you.
Do you want Sharia laws? yes 100%
Do you support killing of apostate? Sharia says only allowed if someone accepts islam and then later rejects it he is an apostate. They are given chance to return back and only after they repeatedly reject it are they given the death penalty. Normally this would only happen to an enemy of the state, a normal person who leaves islam would normally do it silently and or leave the nation. It is quite normal in most countries that an enemy of the state is given the death penalty.
Do you support the killing of the cartoonists (or criticism of their prophet) ?
Criticizing any prophet is a sin to do so but it is not punishable by death. For non-muslims also this is the case.
(03-23-2016 01:30 AM)syrianguy Wrote: Those are some key tenets of Islam. Based on those answers you will realize that most Muslims indirectly condone those attacks. If they don't hold those beliefs then they really cannot be called muslims and haven't received the basic muslim initiation kit. The attacks create the fear that allows the "peaceful" muslims to increase their proselytizing through loud prayers, halal food and other excessive religious demands.
No because your presumption about the key tenants are incorrect as mentioned above.
(03-23-2016 01:30 AM)syrianguy Wrote: Muslims are programmed since birth to believe they are victims, it is not just deranged outcasts but every single one of these kids have hatred in their hearts as it is probably the first emotion they feel.
Sheesh thats a bit of a stretch. I would think it is the opposite, we were taught that we were the conquerors not victims. I think the jews are pre-programmed to believe they victims. Anyway there sure are plenty of people who do have hatred in their hearts for some western countries but you must agree that they have been getting bombed by them on a daily basis. Lets not sugar coat anything with psychology nonsense.
(03-23-2016 01:30 AM)syrianguy Wrote: Do not underestimate ISIS based on the few dispensable outcasts that they chose to carry the attacks. Their leaders have a lot funds and access to real intelligence and they are well versed in the Koran.
Who are these leaders you speak of?
(03-23-2016 01:30 AM)syrianguy Wrote: Plus, as Trump pointed out, they receive plenty of support from the local muslims who not only hide information from the police but are actually complicit.
Trump also pointed out that we give them weapons and money and we got no idea who is who.
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RE: Terrorist attack against Brussels airport and subway, 30+ dead
(03-23-2016 05:48 PM)Requiem Wrote: ^Yeah, that's what the mainstream news say, at least about Laachraoui. No reason not to believe it:
Quote:Wie der Bayerische Rundfunk unter Berufung auf den ZDF-Terrorismusexperten Elmar Teveßen berichtet, soll Abdeslam den 24-Jährigen und einen weiteren Mann mit einem Mietauto aus einer Flüchtlingsunterkunft in Budapest abgeholt und nach Brüssel gebracht haben. Die Kontrolle an der österreich-ungarischen Grenze blieb demnach erfolglos, weil es offenbar keine Hinweise auf eine Terrorverbindung in den Datenbanken gegeben hatte.
http://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/komp...79875.html
"Relying on ZDF-Terrorism-Expert Elmar Teveßen, the Bavarian Broadcasting reports that Abdeslam picked up the 24-year old (Laachraoui) and another man from a refugee-camp in Budapest and brought them to Brussels by car. Border control between Austria and Hungary was ineffective as there was no info on him being terror-related available in the database."
Quote:Laachraoui soll Medienberichten zufolge von 2013 bis 2015 mit Salah Abdeslam in Syrien gewesen sein. Er war Teil einer der ersten Gruppe aus Brüssel, die sich dem IS angeschlossen hat.
http://www.n-tv.de/politik/Was-wir-ueber...97311.html
Between 2013 and 2015, Laachraoui was allegedly in Syria with Abdeslam. He was part of the first group from Brussels that joined ISIS.
" Abdeslam picked up the 24-year old (Laachraoui) and another man from a refugee-camp in Budapest and brought them to Brussels by car. Border control between Austria and Hungary was ineffective as there was no info on him being terror-related available in the database"
of course "there was no info on Laachraoui being terror-related available in the database",  because he was using a true-false Syrian passport under the name of a fictitious Syrian "refugee", Soufiane Kayal:
quote from http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/201...e-date.php
" L'homme était jusqu'ici connu sous un faux nom, Soufiane Kayal, qu'il avait utilisé pour louer la maison d'Auvelais. C'est également le nom qu'il a donné le 9 septembre 2015 lorsqu'il a été contrôlé à bord d'une Mercedes de location à la frontière austro-hongroise en compagnie de Salah Abdeslam et de Mohamed Belkaïd. Également connu sous le nom de Samir Bouzid"
There are today thousands of hardcore terrorists circulating in Europe with true-false (or outright false) Syrian passports, thanks to Merkel opening the borders to every fucker with a false Syrian passport (note that half the facilities where the Syrian passports are fabricated are under the control of ISIS )
Merkel brought this plague on us. She participated in the killing of 130+31 Western people both in Paris and Brussels.
She has to be tried, someday, and meet her fate at the gallows.
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RE: Terrorist attack against Brussels airport and subway, 30+ dead
(03-23-2016 11:58 AM)Aurini Wrote: (03-22-2016 03:09 AM)kaotic Wrote: (03-22-2016 03:03 AM)draguer Wrote: Warning - graphic
Whose the asshole walking right by him with the briefcase - fuck that guy for not even helping the wounded whose on the ground clearly in need of assistance.
There's an anime called "Psycho-Pass", about a future Japan where your psychological state is monitored by the government at all times; if you become "activated" (angry or violent) it's grounds for immediate arrest, and the process of arrest usually "activates" you to the point where the penalty is death.
You're expected to remain calm, not engage in violent or competetive activity, and enjoy the luxury provided by society.
At one point, a loophole is discovered by the system, and a killer decides to start murdering a woman in the middle of the street. She never attempts to defend herself - after all, murders don't actually happen - and the surrounding crowd just stands around discussing the murder, confused as to what is going on.
Terrorism? That's something that only happens in movies or America. Not in real life.
If you're looking for a short English version of something very similar, try a book written about 30 years ago called Futuretrack 5 by Robert Westall. It was written as a young adult book, but it also featured a populace controlled by random patrols of psychopters: helicopters equipped with emotion-sensing gear, stuff that can assess your emotional state. The country is run by a single computer -- Laura -- whose tentacles are into everything. It was written as a reaction to Thatcher, but the way things are turning out it is eerie how common the themes are. It's a short read, much better than Hunger Games bullshit to my mind, back when men used to write for teenaged boys.
(03-23-2016 01:32 PM)Daddy Chains Wrote: "While homicidal, suicidal, and genocidal jihadists are busy plotting the next soft-target terror attacks on the West, docile Westerners are busy shedding cartoon tears and doodling broken hearts on social media.
European artists rushed to fill Twitter and Instagram with images of Tintin (the famous Belgian comic-book character) weeping after vengeful Muslim terrorists left the Brussels airport and subway system buried in rubble and dead bodies.
Belgium needs less Tintin and more Captain Haddock:
Remissas, discite, vivet.
God save us from people who mean well. -storm
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