Post: #1

The purpose of this thread is to shed some light into the real truth about Ukrainian woman. After having been engaged to a Ukrainian woman and having lived with her I was able to understand the psyche of your typical Ukrainian girl.

About me: I am a 25 year old American living in California. I am fit, educated and have a good job. I will also add that I am more alpha than beta.

My experience with a Ukrainian woman began when I joined a social dating app called Badoo. I wasn't having much luck with the app until I met her. She was everything a man could ever want. She is 27, and teaches English and dance classes in a small town. She is gorgeous, feminine, smart, funny, family oriented, and lives a very simple life with her parents. At the time I was not looking to settle down and be in a relationship, but after several months talking to her I started to build a deep connection with her. To make a long story short I went out to visit her 3 times in Ukraine, and she moved to the USA so we could start our life together.

I know what you are thinking - huge mistake. And to that I answer I am young, confident, and I am capable of maintaining such a beautiful girl in America. Well it turns out that may not be the case. I found her expectations to be unbearable..

Here are my list of Cons while dating a Ukrainian woman:

Beauty & Fashion
-The foundation of her entire self esteem is her beauty
-Spends hundreds of dollars on beauty and fashion each month
-Would eat bread for a week rather than give up buying makeup
-Frequent mood swings which are attributed to her feeling fat or ugly
-Her Mother did not leave the house for several years because she was embarrassed of her natural weight gain

Note: While my Fiance was not bulimic and anorexic, I hear a lot of Ukrainian woman are. It's a disease that will affect both yours and her happiness forever.

Social Media
-Highly addicted to Social Media attention. She didn't have an Instagram before I met her and now she is on it everyday
-Always posting provocative photos and would have multiple creepers message her daily
-Had professional makeup and photoshoots every month to maintain her online perception
-Would add anyone and everyone as a friend

Finance
-Does not save. Only spends...
-Believes it is the mans job to save for a house, car, retirement
-Her money is her money, and my money is our money mentality

Note: Never tell a Ukrainian woman you can not afford something. She will take it as a personal insult towards her and will call you greedy. Go figure.

Love
-Can have a heart made of ice with the flip of a switch
-Love language - Gift giving and words of affirmation. Will not feel loved unless she is being showered with flowers, chocolates, and told how beautiful she is.
-Love is based on being her provider or "Daddy"
-In all cases she loves your money more than you

Note: Ukrainian woman don't have the same perception of cheating as the rest of the world. Both men and woman rationalize cheating in Ukraine. Talk about it and draw boundaries.

Communication
-Does not communicate feelings
-All communication related problems must be solved by the male
-Holds conflict inside and later explodes and makes a completely rash decision
-No problem solving skills, if there is a problem it can be solved by ignoring it

Work ethic
-Motto is life does not need to be hard
-Surplus of entitlement
-Will put in 40+ hours working multiple jobs per week for slave wages if it means setting her own hours and being payed cash
-Intimidated at the prospect of working a real job and refuses to do 75% of jobs which she believes are below her education status
-Wakes up at 10am and starts her day at 1pm

Goals
-Pessimism. I think this is one of the worst traits a person can have. Simply put, Ukrainian woman lack optimism. They do not believe they can achieve anything and it gets old.
-Will not attempt something new if there is a chance of failure

Guys, I could be completely wrong about Ukrainian woman. I spent quite a bit of time around my fiance's dance friends (which were all 7/10's or above). These are all trends that I have noticed over time. While the sex is unbelievable, is it worth all the baggage? Will a Ukrainian woman destroy a man over the long term?

Post: #2

Great troll job.

Older woman why?

Online 3 visits that is not a relationship.

Yes though for the guys that defend UA and Russian chick damn they seem like the absolute worst bets to bring back to the USA.

Alot of what you listed I have read similar too many times before, they are really bad export material.

Asians by far seem the best import material.

Post: #3

My first troll dismantling. I'm excited. Thanks for popping my troll cherry Charles.

(02-25-2016 12:27 AM)CharlesHustle Wrote:  The purpose of this thread is to shed some light into the real truth about Ukrainian woman. After having been engaged to a Ukrainian woman and having lived with her I was able to understand the psyche of your typical Ukrainian girl.

About me: I am a 25 year old American living in California. I am fit, educated and have a good job. I will also add that I am more alpha than beta.

Ok, let's hear your wisdom, brand new low post newbie!

Quote:My experience with a Ukrainian woman began when I joined a social dating app called Badoo. I wasn't having much luck with the app until I met her. She was everything a man could ever want. She is 27, and teaches English and dance classes in a small town.

She's "Everything a man could ever want"? She's pushing 30 dude. And she's 2 years older than you. Also, she's UKRAINIAN and not married at 27. You do realize this is the American equivalent of being 38 and unmarried as an American, right?

Quote:She is gorgeous, feminine, smart, funny, family oriented, and lives a very simple life with her parents. At the time I was not looking to settle down and be in a relationship, but after several months talking to her I started to build a deep connection with her. To make a long story short I went out to visit her 3 times in Ukraine, and she moved to the USA so we could start our life together.

So much "more alpha than beta". You chatted with some random chick 2 years older than you for MONTHS, then spent THOUSANDS traveling across the world for this old pussy? Then you moved her over here?

Quote:I know what you are thinking - huge mistake. And to that I answer I am young, confident, and I am capable of maintaining such a beautiful girl in America. Well it turns out that may not be the case. I found her expectations to be unbearable..

No shit.

Quote:Here are my list of Cons while dating a Ukrainian woman:

Beauty & Fashion
-The foundation of her entire self esteem is her beauty
-Spends hundreds of dollars on beauty and fashion each month
-Would eat bread for a week rather than give up buying makeup
-Frequent mood swings which are attributed to her feeling fat or ugly
-Her Mother did not leave the house for several years because she was embarrassed of her natural weight gain

Note: While my Fiance was not bulimic and anorexic, I hear a lot of Ukrainian woman are. It's a disease that will affect both yours and her happiness forever.

I think a larger portion of her behavior is based on your inability to maintain her respect.

Quote:Social Media
-Highly addicted to Social Media attention. She didn't have an Instagram before I met her and now she is on it everyday

Says who? Her? You met this girl on Badoo. Of course she had Instagram.

Quote:-Always posting provocative photos and would have multiple creepers message her daily
-Had professional makeup and photoshoots every month to maintain her online perception
-Would add anyone and everyone as a friend

See above.

Quote:Finance
-Does not save. Only spends...
-Believes it is the mans job to save for a house, car, retirement
-Her money is her money, and my money is our money mentality

It IS a mans job to save for big purchase in other countries. Mr. Alpha has been so indoctrinated by feminism that he forgets that.

Quote:Note: Never tell a Ukrainian woman you can not afford something. She will take it as a personal insult towards her and will call you greedy. Go figure.

Love
-Can have a heart made of ice with the flip of a switch
-Love language - Gift giving and words of affirmation. Will not feel loved unless she is being showered with flowers, chocolates, and told how beautiful she is.
-Love is based on being her provider or "Daddy"
-In all cases she loves your money more than you

"Love Languages"? You seriously read that fucking female hamster book?

Quote:Note: Ukrainian woman don't have the same perception of cheating as the rest of the world. Both men and woman rationalize cheating in Ukraine. Talk about it and draw boundaries.

Communication
-Does not communicate feelings
-All communication related problems must be solved by the male
-Holds conflict inside and later explodes and makes a completely rash decision
-No problem solving skills, if there is a problem it can be solved by ignoring it

You dated one Ukrainian post-wall chick and you're now qualified to make broad stroke judgments on them all? LOL!

Quote:Goals
-Pessimism. I think this is one of the worst traits a person can have. Simply put, Ukrainian woman lack optimism. They do not believe they can achieve anything and it gets old.
-Will not attempt something new if there is a chance of failure

She's already dating a failure....

Quote:Guys, I could be completely wrong about Ukrainian woman. I spent quite a bit of time around my fiance's dance friends (which were all 7/10's or above). These are all trends that I have noticed over time. While the sex is unbelievable, is it worth all the baggage? Will a Ukrainian woman destroy a man over the long term?

Post-wall dancer. I don't care WHAT country you pick her from, it's always going to be a shit choice.

Post: #4

(02-25-2016 12:44 AM)Travesty Wrote:  Great troll job.

Older woman why?

Online 3 visits that is not a relationship.

Yes though for the guys that defend UA and Russian chick damn they seem like the absolute worst bets to bring back to the USA.

Alot of what you listed I have read similar too many times before, they are really bad export material.

Asians by far seem the best import material.

Definitely was not trying to troll. Just honest observations. And 2 years is not a big difference. I am fairly mature for my age. I don't believe you can choose love, it just happens. Granted if she was any older, I think the dynamic would have changed greatly.

Obviously, my experience was based on in person experience. What I am trying to say is that the further you peel back the layers of a Ukrainian woman the more you realize there are a lot of major psychological issues. It is truly sad because they are lovely women, but at their core they are detached from the world.

Post: #5

(02-25-2016 01:02 AM)CharlesHustle Wrote:  Definitely was not trying to troll. Just honest observations. And 2 years is not a big difference. I am fairly mature for my age. I don't believe you can choose love, it just happens. Granted if she was any older, I think the dynamic would have changed greatly.

Post: #6

(02-25-2016 12:27 AM)CharlesHustle Wrote:  The purpose of this thread is to shed some light into the real truth about Ukrainian woman. After having been engaged to a Ukrainian woman and having lived with her I was able to understand the psyche of your typical Ukrainian girl.

About me: I am a 25 year old American living in California. I am fit, educated and have a good job. I will also add that I am more alpha than beta.

My experience with a Ukrainian woman began when I joined a social dating app called Badoo. I wasn't having much luck with the app until I met her. She was everything a man could ever want. She is 27, and teaches English and dance classes in a small town. She is gorgeous, feminine, smart, funny, family oriented, and lives a very simple life with her parents. At the time I was not looking to settle down and be in a relationship, but after several months talking to her I started to build a deep connection with her. To make a long story short I went out to visit her 3 times in Ukraine, and she moved to the USA so we could start our life together.

I know what you are thinking - huge mistake. And to that I answer I am young, confident, and I am capable of maintaining such a beautiful girl in America. Well it turns out that may not be the case. I found her expectations to be unbearable..

Here are my list of Cons while dating a Ukrainian woman:

Beauty & Fashion
-The foundation of her entire self esteem is her beauty
-Spends hundreds of dollars on beauty and fashion each month
-Would eat bread for a week rather than give up buying makeup
-Frequent mood swings which are attributed to her feeling fat or ugly
-Her Mother did not leave the house for several years because she was embarrassed of her natural weight gain

Note: While my Fiance was not bulimic and anorexic, I hear a lot of Ukrainian woman are. It's a disease that will affect both yours and her happiness forever.

Social Media
-Highly addicted to Social Media attention. She didn't have an Instagram before I met her and now she is on it everyday
-Always posting provocative photos and would have multiple creepers message her daily
-Had professional makeup and photoshoots every month to maintain her online perception
-Would add anyone and everyone as a friend

Finance
-Does not save. Only spends...
-Believes it is the mans job to save for a house, car, retirement
-Her money is her money, and my money is our money mentality

Note: Never tell a Ukrainian woman you can not afford something. She will take it as a personal insult towards her and will call you greedy. Go figure.

Love
-Can have a heart made of ice with the flip of a switch
-Love language - Gift giving and words of affirmation. Will not feel loved unless she is being showered with flowers, chocolates, and told how beautiful she is.
-Love is based on being her provider or "Daddy"
-In all cases she loves your money more than you

Note: Ukrainian woman don't have the same perception of cheating as the rest of the world. Both men and woman rationalize cheating in Ukraine. Talk about it and draw boundaries.

Communication
-Does not communicate feelings
-All communication related problems must be solved by the male
-Holds conflict inside and later explodes and makes a completely rash decision
-No problem solving skills, if there is a problem it can be solved by ignoring it

Work ethic
-Motto is life does not need to be hard
-Surplus of entitlement
-Will put in 40+ hours working multiple jobs per week for slave wages if it means setting her own hours and being payed cash
-Intimidated at the prospect of working a real job and refuses to do 75% of jobs which she believes are below her education status
-Wakes up at 10am and starts her day at 1pm

Goals
-Pessimism. I think this is one of the worst traits a person can have. Simply put, Ukrainian woman lack optimism. They do not believe they can achieve anything and it gets old.
-Will not attempt something new if there is a chance of failure

Guys, I could be completely wrong about Ukrainian woman. I spent quite a bit of time around my fiance's dance friends (which were all 7/10's or above). These are all trends that I have noticed over time. While the sex is unbelievable, is it worth all the baggage? Will a Ukrainian woman destroy a man over the long term?

Ehhh I've dated many Ukrainian girls.. and yes, I have dated this type as well. But and this is a huge BUT, only 1 out of the 4 were of what you describe. She was also 27 and unmarried, and there's a reason for this.. she was too demanding and batshit CRAZY. She was also damn near perfect and of the glamorous type.

I've also dated Ukrainian girls who are perfectly normal and appreciate what they're given. I ripped a dress by accident that my ex was wearing, bought her a $50 dress to make up for it, and have never seen someone so happy over a $50 piece of clothing in my entire life. Too bad I was younger and not ready to settle down, now's she's married to some German. Turns out the dress I ripped was 2nd hand.

Point is, your post is deceiving and generalizing that all Ukrainian girls are like this - she very well could have been a visa scammer waiting for a richer guy when the time was right, who knows.. How about you give it a go again and maybe not go after the glamorous type? I've had the best relationship with the girl I describe above, and she was a blue-eyed blond hipster type that skateboarded. Everything about her was perfect other than a slight buttchin and her chest and both could have been fixed.

We're all naturally more drawn to the stunners, but if they're not taken.. they probably have terrible personalties.

Post: #7

Tons of trolls the last few days. I.R.T. even made a guest appearance and asked about white girls in Miami. He also educated the hell out of me regarding Las Vegas sportsbooks and what bets they will and won't take.

Post: #8

[/quote]Ehhh I've dated many Ukrainian girls.. and yes, I have dated this type as well. But and this is a huge BUT, only 1 out of the 4 were of what you describe. She was also 27 and unmarried, and there's a reason for this.. she was too demanding and batshit CRAZY. She was also damn near perfect and of the glamorous type.

I've also dated Ukrainian girls who are perfectly normal and appreciate what they're given. I ripped a dress by accident that my ex was wearing, bought her a $50 dress to make up for it, and have never seen someone so happy over a $50 piece of clothing in my entire life. Too bad I was younger and not ready to settle down, now's she's married to some German. Turns out the dress I ripped was 2nd hand.

Point is, your post is deceiving and generalizing that all Ukrainian girls are like this - she very well could have been a visa scammer waiting for a richer guy when the time was right, who knows.. How about you give it a go again and maybe not go after the glamorous type? I've had the best relationship with the girl I describe above, and she was a blue-eyed blond hipster type that skateboarded. Everything about her was perfect other than a slight buttchin and her chest and both could have been fixed.

We're all naturally more drawn to the stunners, but if they're not taken.. they probably have terrible personalties.
[/quote]


Thanks for you advice. These are things I deliberated before I went to visit her the first time. She was in a long term relationship before we got together. Also she is kind of a book worm. She spent her entire life studying languages. Not until the past 2 years did she enroll in dance and channel her inner sexiness. She comes from a good home and just wants to find a suitable partner to get married. I didn't see any red flags...

Post: #9

(02-25-2016 01:04 AM)LovePotionNo.9 Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 12:27 AM)CharlesHustle Wrote:  The purpose of this thread is to shed some light into the real truth about Ukrainian woman. After having been engaged to a Ukrainian woman and having lived with her I was able to understand the psyche of your typical Ukrainian girl.

About me: I am a 25 year old American living in California. I am fit, educated and have a good job. I will also add that I am more alpha than beta.

My experience with a Ukrainian woman began when I joined a social dating app called Badoo. I wasn't having much luck with the app until I met her. She was everything a man could ever want. She is 27, and teaches English and dance classes in a small town. She is gorgeous, feminine, smart, funny, family oriented, and lives a very simple life with her parents. At the time I was not looking to settle down and be in a relationship, but after several months talking to her I started to build a deep connection with her. To make a long story short I went out to visit her 3 times in Ukraine, and she moved to the USA so we could start our life together.

I know what you are thinking - huge mistake. And to that I answer I am young, confident, and I am capable of maintaining such a beautiful girl in America. Well it turns out that may not be the case. I found her expectations to be unbearable..

Here are my list of Cons while dating a Ukrainian woman:

Beauty & Fashion
-The foundation of her entire self esteem is her beauty
-Spends hundreds of dollars on beauty and fashion each month
-Would eat bread for a week rather than give up buying makeup
-Frequent mood swings which are attributed to her feeling fat or ugly
-Her Mother did not leave the house for several years because she was embarrassed of her natural weight gain

Note: While my Fiance was not bulimic and anorexic, I hear a lot of Ukrainian woman are. It's a disease that will affect both yours and her happiness forever.

Social Media
-Highly addicted to Social Media attention. She didn't have an Instagram before I met her and now she is on it everyday
-Always posting provocative photos and would have multiple creepers message her daily
-Had professional makeup and photoshoots every month to maintain her online perception
-Would add anyone and everyone as a friend

Finance
-Does not save. Only spends...
-Believes it is the mans job to save for a house, car, retirement
-Her money is her money, and my money is our money mentality

Note: Never tell a Ukrainian woman you can not afford something. She will take it as a personal insult towards her and will call you greedy. Go figure.

Love
-Can have a heart made of ice with the flip of a switch
-Love language - Gift giving and words of affirmation. Will not feel loved unless she is being showered with flowers, chocolates, and told how beautiful she is.
-Love is based on being her provider or "Daddy"
-In all cases she loves your money more than you

Note: Ukrainian woman don't have the same perception of cheating as the rest of the world. Both men and woman rationalize cheating in Ukraine. Talk about it and draw boundaries.

Communication
-Does not communicate feelings
-All communication related problems must be solved by the male
-Holds conflict inside and later explodes and makes a completely rash decision
-No problem solving skills, if there is a problem it can be solved by ignoring it

Work ethic
-Motto is life does not need to be hard
-Surplus of entitlement
-Will put in 40+ hours working multiple jobs per week for slave wages if it means setting her own hours and being payed cash
-Intimidated at the prospect of working a real job and refuses to do 75% of jobs which she believes are below her education status
-Wakes up at 10am and starts her day at 1pm

Goals
-Pessimism. I think this is one of the worst traits a person can have. Simply put, Ukrainian woman lack optimism. They do not believe they can achieve anything and it gets old.
-Will not attempt something new if there is a chance of failure

Guys, I could be completely wrong about Ukrainian woman. I spent quite a bit of time around my fiance's dance friends (which were all 7/10's or above). These are all trends that I have noticed over time. While the sex is unbelievable, is it worth all the baggage? Will a Ukrainian woman destroy a man over the long term?

Ehhh I've dated many Ukrainian girls.. and yes, I have dated this type as well. But and this is a huge BUT, only 1 out of the 4 were of what you describe. She was also 27 and unmarried, and there's a reason for this.. she was too demanding and batshit CRAZY. She was also damn near perfect and of the glamorous type.

I've also dated Ukrainian girls who are perfectly normal and appreciate what they're given. I ripped a dress by accident that my ex was wearing, bought her a $50 dress to make up for it, and have never seen someone so happy over a $50 piece of clothing in my entire life. Too bad I was younger and not ready to settle down, now's she's married to some German. Turns out the dress I ripped was 2nd hand.

Point is, your post is deceiving and generalizing that all Ukrainian girls are like this - she very well could have been a visa scammer waiting for a richer guy when the time was right, who knows.. How about you give it a go again and maybe not go after the glamorous type? I've had the best relationship with the girl I describe above, and she was a blue-eyed blond hipster type that skateboarded. Everything about her was perfect other than a slight buttchin and her chest and both could have been fixed.

We're all naturally more drawn to the stunners, but if they're not taken.. they probably have terrible personalties.

Thanks for you advice. These are things I deliberated before I went to visit her the first time. She was in a long term relationship before we got together. Also she is kind of a book worm. She spent her entire life studying languages. Not until the past 2 years did she enroll in dance and channel her inner sexiness. She comes from a good home and just wants to find a suitable partner to get married. I didn't see any red flags...

Post: #10

A lot of you all need to chillout and quit acting like you've never been completely swindled by a Ukrainian girl. You've gotta learn sometime, this guy is just new

Post: #11

(02-25-2016 01:15 AM)CharlesHustle Wrote:  Thanks for you advice. These are things I deliberated before I went to visit her the first time. She was in a long term relationship before we got together. Also she is kind of a book worm. She spent her entire life studying languages. Not until the past 2 years did she enroll in dance and channel her inner sexiness. She comes from a good home and just wants to find a suitable partner to get married. I didn't see any red flags...

Dude, you're not only "more beta than alpha" you're clueless and in dire need of a huge dose of red-pill.

If you aren't banned for trolling, take a break from posting for a few months and read up the Travel and Game section of the forum.

Also, this thread should probably be moved to the "Newbie" section.

Post: #12

Quote:Thanks for you advice. These are things I deliberated before I went to visit her the first time. She was in a long term relationship before we got together. Also she is kind of a book worm. She spent her entire life studying languages. Not until the past 2 years did she enroll in dance and channel her inner sexiness. She comes from a good home and just wants to find a suitable partner to get married. I didn't see any red flags...

Live with her in Ukraine for awhile before you ever try bringing her back to the US. If at all possible, live over there instead of ever bringing her back with you.

Make sure she has a real job.

Post: #13

(02-25-2016 01:21 AM)whateverfuckit Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:15 AM)CharlesHustle Wrote:  Thanks for you advice. These are things I deliberated before I went to visit her the first time. She was in a long term relationship before we got together. Also she is kind of a book worm. She spent her entire life studying languages. Not until the past 2 years did she enroll in dance and channel her inner sexiness. She comes from a good home and just wants to find a suitable partner to get married. I didn't see any red flags...

Dude, you're not only "more beta than alpha" you're clueless and in dire need of a huge dose of red-pill.

If you aren't banned for trolling, take a break from posting for a few months and read up the Travel and Game section of the forum.

Also, this thread should probably be moved to the "Newbie" section.

I see we have a key board warrior here. Humble yourself for a moment. And take my experience with a grain of salt. I do believe this experience brought the beta out of me, but no I am not predominantly beta.

Post: #14

(02-25-2016 01:28 AM)CharlesHustle Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:21 AM)whateverfuckit Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:15 AM)CharlesHustle Wrote:  Thanks for you advice. These are things I deliberated before I went to visit her the first time. She was in a long term relationship before we got together. Also she is kind of a book worm. She spent her entire life studying languages. Not until the past 2 years did she enroll in dance and channel her inner sexiness. She comes from a good home and just wants to find a suitable partner to get married. I didn't see any red flags...

Dude, you're not only "more beta than alpha" you're clueless and in dire need of a huge dose of red-pill.

If you aren't banned for trolling, take a break from posting for a few months and read up the Travel and Game section of the forum.

Also, this thread should probably be moved to the "Newbie" section.

I see we have a key board warrior here. Humble yourself for a moment. And take my experience with a grain of salt. I do believe this experience brought the beta out of me, but no I am not predominantly beta.

Yup, we've got an asshole troll. Probably one who has been scammed a thousand times... lol

Post: #15

(02-25-2016 01:24 AM)LovePotionNo.9 Wrote:  

Quote:Thanks for you advice. These are things I deliberated before I went to visit her the first time. She was in a long term relationship before we got together. Also she is kind of a book worm. She spent her entire life studying languages. Not until the past 2 years did she enroll in dance and channel her inner sexiness. She comes from a good home and just wants to find a suitable partner to get married. I didn't see any red flags...

Live with her in Ukraine for awhile before you ever try bringing her back to the US. If at all possible, live over there instead of ever bringing her back with you.

Make sure she has a real job.

She asked me to live with her in Ukraine but it simply is not an option because of my career. If I was older, maybe...

Post: #16

(02-25-2016 01:31 AM)CharlesHustle Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:24 AM)LovePotionNo.9 Wrote:  

Quote:Thanks for you advice. These are things I deliberated before I went to visit her the first time. She was in a long term relationship before we got together. Also she is kind of a book worm. She spent her entire life studying languages. Not until the past 2 years did she enroll in dance and channel her inner sexiness. She comes from a good home and just wants to find a suitable partner to get married. I didn't see any red flags...

Live with her in Ukraine for awhile before you ever try bringing her back to the US. If at all possible, live over there instead of ever bringing her back with you.

Make sure she has a real job.

She asked me to live with her in Ukraine but it simply is not an option because of my career. If I was older, maybe...

Yeah, that's why a lot of guys on here have internet income. You've really have to experience the culture (this is why you think she has mental problems) to understand. It's freaking poor and it's a scam country. Experience is key, or lower the risk by lowering your standards.

Post: #17

(02-25-2016 01:29 AM)LovePotionNo.9 Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:28 AM)CharlesHustle Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:21 AM)whateverfuckit Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:15 AM)CharlesHustle Wrote:  Thanks for you advice. These are things I deliberated before I went to visit her the first time. She was in a long term relationship before we got together. Also she is kind of a book worm. She spent her entire life studying languages. Not until the past 2 years did she enroll in dance and channel her inner sexiness. She comes from a good home and just wants to find a suitable partner to get married. I didn't see any red flags...

Dude, you're not only "more beta than alpha" you're clueless and in dire need of a huge dose of red-pill.

If you aren't banned for trolling, take a break from posting for a few months and read up the Travel and Game section of the forum.

Also, this thread should probably be moved to the "Newbie" section.

I see we have a key board warrior here. Humble yourself for a moment. And take my experience with a grain of salt. I do believe this experience brought the beta out of me, but no I am not predominantly beta.

Yup, we've got an asshole troll

Looks more like we have the same guy with 2 accounts.

Created within 30 day of each other, same post count, both talk about Ukrainian women.....

Yup....I think we have a dual-identity poster. Or maybe he's just a friend.

Post: #18

(02-25-2016 01:36 AM)whateverfuckit Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:29 AM)LovePotionNo.9 Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:28 AM)CharlesHustle Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:21 AM)whateverfuckit Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:15 AM)CharlesHustle Wrote:  Thanks for you advice. These are things I deliberated before I went to visit her the first time. She was in a long term relationship before we got together. Also she is kind of a book worm. She spent her entire life studying languages. Not until the past 2 years did she enroll in dance and channel her inner sexiness. She comes from a good home and just wants to find a suitable partner to get married. I didn't see any red flags...

Dude, you're not only "more beta than alpha" you're clueless and in dire need of a huge dose of red-pill.

If you aren't banned for trolling, take a break from posting for a few months and read up the Travel and Game section of the forum.

Also, this thread should probably be moved to the "Newbie" section.

I see we have a key board warrior here. Humble yourself for a moment. And take my experience with a grain of salt. I do believe this experience brought the beta out of me, but no I am not predominantly beta.

Yup, we've got an asshole troll

Looks more like we have the same guy with 2 accounts.

Created within 30 day of each other, same post count, both talk about Ukrainian women.....

Yup....I think we have a dual-identity poster. Or maybe he's just a friend.

Yup, I think you are on to something. Keep yourself occupied with that theory.

Post: #19

(02-25-2016 01:35 AM)LovePotionNo.9 Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:31 AM)CharlesHustle Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:24 AM)LovePotionNo.9 Wrote:  

Quote:Thanks for you advice. These are things I deliberated before I went to visit her the first time. She was in a long term relationship before we got together. Also she is kind of a book worm. She spent her entire life studying languages. Not until the past 2 years did she enroll in dance and channel her inner sexiness. She comes from a good home and just wants to find a suitable partner to get married. I didn't see any red flags...

Live with her in Ukraine for awhile before you ever try bringing her back to the US. If at all possible, live over there instead of ever bringing her back with you.

Make sure she has a real job.

She asked me to live with her in Ukraine but it simply is not an option because of my career. If I was older, maybe...

Yeah, that's why a lot of guys on here have internet income. You've really have to experience the culture (this is why you think she has mental problems) to understand. It's freaking poor and it's a scam country. Experience is key, or lower the risk by lowering your standards.

Internet income is my long term goal. Thank for the advice today. I have had enough of this forum. I didn't realize there are so many insecure keyboard warriors waiting to pounce on a newer forum member.

Post: #20

I'm rather taken back by one low count post/rep member calling another member a "low post/rep Newbie"

Post: #21

ahahaha this post doesn't belong here and now it's a conspiracy... just ignore him. He'll probably be banned within the next 24 hours anyway for being an obnoxious ass

Post: #22

Quote:Internet income is my long term goal. Thank for the advice today. I have had enough of this forum. I didn't realize there are so many insecure keyboard warriors waiting to pounce on a newer forum member.

I wouldn't leave, my man.. this is actually the first time I've seen this and there's a lot of knowledge to acquire here. Especially, if you would like another Ukrainian girl

Post: #23

(02-25-2016 01:49 AM)LovePotionNo.9 Wrote:  

Quote:Internet income is my long term goal. Thank for the advice today. I have had enough of this forum. I didn't realize there are so many insecure keyboard warriors waiting to pounce on a newer forum member.

I wouldn't leave, my man.. this is actually the first time I've seen this and there's a lot of knowledge to acquire here. Especially, if you would like another Ukrainian girl

I will stay around and gain some knowledge by the wise forum members.

I would like to start by saving the relationship I already have. She moved back to Ukraine recently because we didn't get married in the 90 day window. I am trying to understand her culture so we can move forward, but on the other hand I may have a more suitable Ukrainian partner out there... who knows..

Post: #24

(02-25-2016 01:54 AM)CharlesHustle Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:49 AM)LovePotionNo.9 Wrote:  

Quote:Internet income is my long term goal. Thank for the advice today. I have had enough of this forum. I didn't realize there are so many insecure keyboard warriors waiting to pounce on a newer forum member.

I wouldn't leave, my man.. this is actually the first time I've seen this and there's a lot of knowledge to acquire here. Especially, if you would like another Ukrainian girl

I will stay around and gain some knowledge by the wise forum members.

I would like to start by saving the relationship I already have. She moved back to Ukraine recently because we didn't get married in the 90 day window. I am trying to understand her culture so we can move forward, but on the other hand I may have a more suitable Ukrainian partner out there... who knows..

If she's exactly what you described, let her be.. Go and find a younger more down to earth girl

Post: #25

(02-25-2016 01:56 AM)LovePotionNo.9 Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:54 AM)CharlesHustle Wrote:  

(02-25-2016 01:49 AM)LovePotionNo.9 Wrote:  

Quote:Internet income is my long term goal. Thank for the advice today. I have had enough of this forum. I didn't realize there are so many insecure keyboard warriors waiting to pounce on a newer forum member.

I wouldn't leave, my man.. this is actually the first time I've seen this and there's a lot of knowledge to acquire here. Especially, if you would like another Ukrainian girl

I will stay around and gain some knowledge by the wise forum members.

I would like to start by saving the relationship I already have. She moved back to Ukraine recently because we didn't get married in the 90 day window. I am trying to understand her culture so we can move forward, but on the other hand I may have a more suitable Ukrainian partner out there... who knows..

If she's exactly what you described, let her be.. Go and find a younger more down to earth girl

There is a difference between perception and actuality. Understanding the difference is my goal...