Post: #201

Has anyone been to Romania? I am noticing alot of Romanian woman are getting more interested in their asian men due to the influence of Kpop

Post: #202

(02-20-2016 05:12 AM)Brosemite Wrote:  Makes all the more sense now that you have re-scripted the text. When you're stressing that your kids just make good grades and keep in touch with their Asian roots, it fails to emphasize the development of other qualities such as strong communication skills in the A) social, B) professional, and C) believe it or not academic world as well.

This is because good grades and a good job were all that was needed to get a girl back in olden days. That comes from the arranged marriage culture. Parents of the girls from good families didn't care how good you were at sport or if you were a social retard. If you had a good job you got set up with the hottest girl. It's still like that today in the traditional rural communities.

Asian parents don't realize that nerds with good grades don't get girls in America. This is why Asian girls end up with white guys and Asian guys end up with Pornhub.

Post: #203

(02-19-2016 09:33 PM)swuglyfe Wrote:  =
Also, Tinder spoofed to the Phils today and got 92 matches in 24 hours.
This same profile, which everyone I've consulted is locked down to the 9s, got me maybe 2 matches in a week in DC.

I'm more surprised that you found that many girls attractive in Manila on Tinder to swipe right on. : I'd recommend spoofing Ho Chi Minh city and Bangkok too. You'll be more way more impressed with the quality. Although with Bangkok probably 30% will be well concealed ladyboys.

I could give a brief breakdown of Tinder in asia if people are interested, typical profiles, SEA girl psychoanalysis, and very rough match percentages. I don't like meeting girls on Tinder very much though. I just use it as a very passive bang net.. the equivalent of the lazy fisherman who throws a net over the side and lets the current pull the fish in. I think the quality generally isn't as good as meeting through more conventional routes or social circle which is king.


By the way avoid Reddit. It sucks for just about everything including the general redpill sub. I browsed a few of the asian related subs on there a year or two ago and there may be a few enlightened guys but most of it is young "azn pryde" nonsense with quite a bit of angry SJW crap too. It's toxic don't expose your mind to this type of stuff just get out there.

Post: #204

(02-20-2016 09:10 PM)Gas Wrote:  This is because good grades and a good job were all that was needed to get a girl back in olden days. That comes from the arranged marriage culture. Parents of the girls from good families didn't care how good you were at sport or if you were a social retard. If you had a good job you got set up with the hottest girl. It's still like that today in the traditional rural communities.

Asian parents don't realize that nerds with good grades don't get girls in America. This is why Asian girls end up with white guys and Asian guys end up with Pornhub.

I am glad my parents pushed me to focus on academia, now I have a successful career, money, and the freedom to travel anywhere in the world and bang any race I want. Those white guys can have those Asian girls.

Post: #205

(02-21-2016 01:37 AM)Wuking Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 09:10 PM)Gas Wrote:  This is because good grades and a good job were all that was needed to get a girl back in olden days. That comes from the arranged marriage culture. Parents of the girls from good families didn't care how good you were at sport or if you were a social retard. If you had a good job you got set up with the hottest girl. It's still like that today in the traditional rural communities.

Asian parents don't realize that nerds with good grades don't get girls in America. This is why Asian girls end up with white guys and Asian guys end up with Pornhub.

I am glad my parents pushed me to focus on academia, now I have a successful career, money, and the freedom to travel anywhere in the world and bang any race I want. Those white guys can have those Asian girls.

I think he meant more than that...we were not just referring to "social skills regarding women" in immediate surroundings but developing good communication, leadership, and a 6th sense in knowing how to deal with adversity outside of just getting good grades, which will in turn benefit your career & most importantly...life.

Just getting good grades alone isn't going to cut it if you can't read between the lines when for example....doing business in Mainland China where a bunch of opportunistic people are waiting for a misstep so they can fuck you over.....or knowing how to avoid divorce rape..

Post: #206

Grades are important in today's world.
With the girl stuff its really down to individuals potential and motivation. Some people just aren't motivated to chase girls, you have to accept that.

Would u want your kids unemployed?

Post: #207

Sure, grades are important. But so is social savvy, communication skills, confidence, networking, leadership, determination, competitiveness etc. That's not stuff you learn studying for SAT tests in your bedroom all day.

I've learned just as much from competing in sports as I have from studying for school exams. Especially learning to operate under pressure and a competitive spirit. But many Asian parents only let their kids play sport sparingly because they want them to stay home and study. That's one example.

Most well educated Asian guys just end up working middle class jobs, probably bang 2 girls in their life, won't ever pick up a barbell and settle down in their 20s with a frumpy wife. You need more than straight A's to reach the heights. Grades might help you get the decent job, but it's the other stuff that makes a guy at the top.

Post: #208

(02-21-2016 04:10 AM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  Grades are important in today's world.
With the girl stuff its really down to individuals potential and motivation. Some people just aren't motivated to chase girls, you have to accept that.

Would u want your kids unemployed?

From a business standpoint i'd value superior social skills, stubborn non quitter, hard worker, and an aggressive ability to cut deals more than just straight grades and book knowledge. With superior social skills you can create empires and lead men. With social skills you hire, fire, and delegate all the people you need to achieve your particular goals.

With grades you can be a cog in the wheel that either toils for the types I mentioned or in rare cases creates some ingenius thing that gets you recognized.

Grades are important and so is a career path but I still feel that the bridge ability is social skills. Even if someone is a 'sperg with no interest in women that is still an important ability to wield in daily life.

Post: #209

(02-21-2016 04:36 AM)Gas Wrote:  Most well educated Asian guys just end up working middle class jobs, probably bang 2 girls in their life, won't ever pick up a barbell and settle down in their 20s with a frumpy wife.

Can't say this is necessarily true for asia. I've seen some nerdy super beta looking and acting guys with good jobs with some extremely hot wives or girlfriends. Forget about seen I actually know a couple guys like this. One is in Taiwan and his wife is literally cover girl quality and he's some high ranked IT guy. The other guy I know is Thai and he's short, has a not so handsome face, and wears glasses and he also has a smokeshow of a girlfriend. They are all from middle class families too. They are good guys but you would do a massive double take if you're not used to seeing that.

Go to some upscale local nightclubs in Thailand and it's not unusual to see a pretty average or below average looking Thai guy with amazing girls around him. One of which is his gf and her friends.

I see versions of this nearly everywhere in asia except for maybe Singapore where every other Sing national is a nerdy beta with a good job.

I talked about this before in the travel section in another thread.. the way things are in EE, Latin America, and Asia is far closer to normal than the shitshow that goes on in the anglosphere. These women abroad take into consideration all the other qualities a man brings to the table too and makes her decision. It's way more rational and practical.

It's not that unusual in asia really. The whole put your head down, rise up in your career, and get a hot wife thing isn't a pipe dream there like it usually is in the U.S.

Post: #210

(02-21-2016 03:39 AM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(02-21-2016 01:37 AM)Wuking Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 09:10 PM)Gas Wrote:  This is because good grades and a good job were all that was needed to get a girl back in olden days. That comes from the arranged marriage culture. Parents of the girls from good families didn't care how good you were at sport or if you were a social retard. If you had a good job you got set up with the hottest girl. It's still like that today in the traditional rural communities.

Asian parents don't realize that nerds with good grades don't get girls in America. This is why Asian girls end up with white guys and Asian guys end up with Pornhub.

I am glad my parents pushed me to focus on academia, now I have a successful career, money, and the freedom to travel anywhere in the world and bang any race I want. Those white guys can have those Asian girls.

I think he meant more than that...we were not just referring to "social skills regarding women" in immediate surroundings but developing good communication, leadership, and a 6th sense in knowing how to deal with adversity outside of just getting good grades, which will in turn benefit your career & most importantly...life.

Just getting good grades alone isn't going to cut it if you can't read between the lines when for example....doing business in Mainland China where a bunch of opportunistic people are waiting for a misstep so they can fuck you over.....or knowing how to avoid divorce rape..

+1

Sure academia translates to a career which leads to money, then pussy. But the reality is that it doesn't work out that way for most guys. Good grades aren't even enough for white dudes, to say nothing about Asian dudes already straddled with that unfortunate stigma.

In a dating market where being a white-collar office monkey is the standard, the Asian guy is seriously falling behind the eight ball if he doesn't fail to tap into a niche like growing his hair and surfing or playing in a band. Even getting that entry-level white collar role won't happen if you have the social skills of an autistic 5 year old.

I personally think that Asian dudes growing up in the West have a leg up in terms of game. Even if we mightn't necessarily enjoy a home ground advantage, we were raised in cultures where the following traits mentioned by Gas:

(02-21-2016 04:36 AM)Gas Wrote:  Sure, grades are important. But so is social savvy, communication skills, confidence, networking, leadership, determination, competitiveness etc. That's not stuff you learn studying for SAT tests in your bedroom all day.

are highly valued and encouraged in youth, as with independence and the ability to speak eloquently. Speaking for Australia and NZ (and hopefully the USA/Canada), a heavy outdoors culture was also endorsed, along with the social bonding that came with it -- growing up in sports circles really got you accustomed to hanging with hot fit birds. Sport was compulsory where I went to school, so was music for a time. It bred a sense of well-roundedness and adventure. In adult life, that translated to a good familiarity and taste in music, style, risk-taking and travel. There was a lot of importance placed on being well-read, appreciating the arts, world affairs and understanding food and alcohol.
How many guys from Japan or Singapore, for example, tend to be motivated to spend a few years in Europe or the Americas broadening their résumé (and chasing tail)? It's almost a rite of passage in most professional fields for Aussies and Kiwis -- the Asians among them are increasing. Would most Asian mums baulk at the idea of their sons being too far away from the family orbit -- and therefore, an un-Asian thing to do? Fuck that. My Dad travelled for work as a graduate so I'm glad he thinks otherwise.
We also got to grow up taller and more built because of all this physical activity, and also to diets heavy in protein and calcium. How many of you can say that you're only of average height amongst your family? Not least, we ended up with white social circles and accents that are globally desired.

It worked in my favour that my parents settled in a very white, upper-middle-class suburb. While I haven't gotten the chance to develop the qualities I wrote above as early and to the extent I'd have liked, thanks to certain Asian parenting traits and other personal circumstances I won't go into here, I reckon I've still got stacks of time ahead of me at 27.

Even my parents have been somewhat cognisant of the merits of growing up in a cross-cultural household. My dad certainly understands that it takes more than knuckling down in school and getting a stable job to find a wife, let alone a steady stream of changing pussy. I know I never got told I should be spending more time doing maths homework whenever I'd been caught being friendly with a girl.

Realise that even though the game might be rigged against you, a lot of these are self-imposed limiting beliefs or within your means. Things like style are easily rectified -- I still see Asian dudes out in the city in Bermuda shorts and sandals, even in spring and autumn. Verbal delivery will take a while -- Anything else less than fluent written and spoken articulation might sound cute on the Latin lover or Anglo caveman archetypes, but downright off-putting on an Asian guy. Accents will take even longer but are doable; many Asian accents -- I'm thinking of Hindi, Cantonese and Indonesian, are adept at drying up Western vaginas.

Asians who grew up in California and Vancouver are at a slight disadvantage because of they can easily blend into their own communities and not absorb a whole lot of the values I've talked up. Maybe there's less incentive to do so, but even upon reaching adulthood, such a lifestyle should be actionable. They really have no-one else to blame when the beta, pasty white dude wearing specs and khaki cargo pants that's banging their sister is higher up in SMV than they are.

Asian guys from Asia have it much harder. From what I hear, their game really needs work even just to keep a monogamous lifestyle. Have you ever hung out with dudes from East Asia? God. 95% of what they talk about is work, work and if that's too much, more work. If they're from Singapore or Korea, the conversation might also also revolve around their military service days.

I otherwise can't feel much sympathy when this thread ends up in a circle-jerk over why Asian dudes consistently bomb out in parts of the world but might do well in Asia. Which is to say that unless you're into Asian girls, you're condemned to an incel life. I've lately ended up making inroads gaming white English and Canadian girls, so I'd like to suppose that at least something I've been reading in this thread has been bullshit.

Post: #211

I think put your head down will get u a hot wife but she probably isn't gonna be very sumisive and i don't think being beta this way is the best approach

Post: #212

(02-19-2016 08:27 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 12:57 AM)elimanning Wrote:  Besides, its not really there fault, the Chinese Americans in California didn't really have many role models to learn from and more importantly imitate.

Are Asians underrepresented in mainstream media? I think so. I however do not see how this directly correlates with Asian men in social situations because learning how to evolve as a result of those additional influences takes much more dedication, time, and trial/error.

For example, the lack of role models in mainstream media is something that alpha Viet guys in Texas...are aware of..but do not obsess about because they're pro-actively busy trying to utilize whatever influences they have around them in chasing their goals whether socially or academically...with success.

I get what you're saying, but looking at Hollywood & mainstream media as the only source of role models is the wrong mentality to have. A topic that's best reserved for another time, haha

You've made a really good point. There's definitely been a huge rise in Asian representation in the Australian media over the last decade. Lee Lin Chin, Adam Liaw, Anh Do, Lawrence Leung and Aamer Rahman are among the names I could think off the top of my head that have broken into what has been traditionally a white Anglo old-boys' club here.

I know it's Buzzfeed, but here you go if you're not Australian and can't be bothered Googling them:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/monicatan/young-....qnym0nk5L

An Asian guy also played a love interest in a local teen drama, Dance Academy.

Brosemite, I get what you're saying in that mass media portrayals really aren't necessary in order to legitimise one's image or SMV, when you would be looking to develop your own name if you're that alpha enough. I certainly wouldn't advocate such a presence as someone who doesn't believe in Affirmative Action.
In a society that had such chequered attitudes towards it's Asian community, where that said community has become an immovable part of its social fabric, a positive media image really does go a long way in weaving us into societal legitimacy. Given that even though any poisonous Hollywood stereotypes actually don't have a huge effect here, young kids do gain so much of their formative ideas of the world from TV and other mass entertainment.

Post: #213

Speaking as an Asian guy who grew up in Asia and part of the whole SJW culture and in Singapore where beta blue pill is the norm and encouraged(oh god...) it took me a long time to break out of the spell. In fact, it took living in a foreign country alone.

I was lonely, away from home and had no friends or connections. For the first time in my life, I had to harden myself and get my ass out there to find new friends and women. It was a steep learning curve but I'm glad at the end of my 1 year stay in Japan, I left Narita Airport with many alpha friends and business connections as well as figuring out the Japanese Game and getting my decent number of lays. Its not easy as an Asian growing up in Asia but its possible.

I didn't leave Asia to discover red pill or building my game, I was just struck down so low I had to crawl my way up literally inch by inch. It taught me to man the fuck up and now I'm potentially heading to UniMelb in Australia in 2 years time for college(I have to serve the military first) and I'm looking forward to another chapter of living abroad and discovering more of myself I can improve and build on.

Post: #214

(02-21-2016 09:41 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  Speaking as an Asian guy who grew up in Asia and part of the whole SJW culture and in Singapore where beta blue pill is the norm and encouraged(oh god...) it took me a long time to break out of the spell. In fact, it took living in a foreign country alone.

I was lonely, away from home and had no friends or connections. For the first time in my life, I had to harden myself and get my ass out there to find new friends and women. It was a steep learning curve but I'm glad at the end of my 1 year stay in Japan, I left Narita Airport with many alpha friends and business connections as well as figuring out the Japanese Game and getting my decent number of lays. Its not easy as an Asian growing up in Asia but its possible.

I didn't leave Asia to discover red pill or building my game, I was just struck down so low I had to crawl my way up literally inch by inch. It taught me to man the fuck up and now I'm potentially heading to UniMelb in Australia in 2 years time for college(I have to serve the military first) and I'm looking forward to another chapter of living abroad and discovering more of myself I can improve and build on.

A lot of Singaporeans I meet are just debbie downers. It's like the land of Darias. If you're not familiar with Daria it's that mopey emo bitch from Beavis and Butthead who was always being snarky and negative. A lot of Singaporeans are like this.

I have many Singaporean friends and get along with them very well but this quality in them is simultaneously amusing and infuriating too. It's anti-game, anti-red pill, anti-masculinity.

This is why so many Singaporean women lag behind other developed asian nations in looks and attitude. The men don't keep them in check.

A lot of sinkies are good guys but man..there is a cultural habit there to let women run over the men and everything else. Even Singapore's divorce laws are bar none the worst in asia and have more in common with the anglosphere.

Post: #215

(02-20-2016 09:32 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  By the way avoid Reddit. It sucks for just about everything including the general redpill sub. I browsed a few of the asian related subs on there a year or two ago and there may be a few enlightened guys but most of it is young "azn pryde" nonsense with quite a bit of angry SJW crap too. It's toxic don't expose your mind to this type of stuff just get out there.

I never quite got Reddit. Maybe it's the interface that makes me feel dyslexic.

Is the part in bold similar to material from....the Fung Brothers?

(02-21-2016 05:58 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  I see versions of this nearly everywhere in asia except for maybe Singapore where every other Sing national is a nerdy beta with a good job.

I talked about this before in the travel section in another thread.. the way things are in EE, Latin America, and Asia is far closer to normal than the shitshow that goes on in the anglosphere. These women abroad take into consideration all the other qualities a man brings to the table too and makes her decision. It's way more rational and practical.

There are examples of "nice" intelligent naive Asian guys getting hot chicks in Brazil. I know quite a few guys like that. However, Latin American women are even more "emotional" and "shallow" than chicks in the Anglosphere. You are TOTALLY judged on a superficial level by how you interact in social situations and dating wise by how you're capable of triggering the emotions of a girl as an Alpha...preferably seduced using slang in their native language due to what tends to be short attention spans.

There are ways for the nice Asian guy to get absolute smoke show chicks not really into the party scene...that..or maybe the chicks go out to upscale parties though only date sensible dudes outside of that scene via the traditional gentleman route...it however takes some semblance of game to finish the deed.

FYI, I have personally NEVER gotten a free lay being a traditional nice guy in Brazil. It's always taken Alpha heads up initiative game for me to score. Maybe it'd be different if I was able to develop social circles "outside" the party scene though that has never happened.

So if I were to categorize based on my travels,
1) I think it's ok to be an intelligent "socially awkward" person in Europe or Asia while being able to slay hot women.
2) However, being able to game as an alpha and socialize with others on a bullshit superficial level is important in the Anglosphere (N. America, Australia, NZ, UK) AND Latin America.

There's a reason why Latinas are crazy & that's because they base everything off of how they're emotions are triggered while at times not knowing how to control them, lol.

Luckily for Asian guys in Brazil, most of them possess great social skills outside of their book smarts. A sad exception might be São Paulo city (not the state) where their status on a social level is way off the mark.

Post: #216

(02-21-2016 06:48 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

(02-21-2016 03:39 AM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(02-21-2016 01:37 AM)Wuking Wrote:  

(02-20-2016 09:10 PM)Gas Wrote:  This is because good grades and a good job were all that was needed to get a girl back in olden days. That comes from the arranged marriage culture. Parents of the girls from good families didn't care how good you were at sport or if you were a social retard. If you had a good job you got set up with the hottest girl. It's still like that today in the traditional rural communities.

Asian parents don't realize that nerds with good grades don't get girls in America. This is why Asian girls end up with white guys and Asian guys end up with Pornhub.

I am glad my parents pushed me to focus on academia, now I have a successful career, money, and the freedom to travel anywhere in the world and bang any race I want. Those white guys can have those Asian girls.

I think he meant more than that...we were not just referring to "social skills regarding women" in immediate surroundings but developing good communication, leadership, and a 6th sense in knowing how to deal with adversity outside of just getting good grades, which will in turn benefit your career & most importantly...life.

Just getting good grades alone isn't going to cut it if you can't read between the lines when for example....doing business in Mainland China where a bunch of opportunistic people are waiting for a misstep so they can fuck you over.....or knowing how to avoid divorce rape..

+1

Sure academia translates to a career which leads to money, then pussy. But the reality is that it doesn't work out that way for most guys. Good grades aren't even enough for white dudes, to say nothing about Asian dudes already straddled with that unfortunate stigma.

In a dating market where being a white-collar office monkey is the standard, the Asian guy is seriously falling behind the eight ball if he doesn't fail to tap into a niche like growing his hair and surfing or playing in a band. Even getting that entry-level white collar role won't happen if you have the social skills of an autistic 5 year old.

I personally think that Asian dudes growing up in the West have a leg up in terms of game. Even if we mightn't necessarily enjoy a home ground advantage, we were raised in cultures where the following traits mentioned by Gas:

(02-21-2016 04:36 AM)Gas Wrote:  Sure, grades are important. But so is social savvy, communication skills, confidence, networking, leadership, determination, competitiveness etc. That's not stuff you learn studying for SAT tests in your bedroom all day.

are highly valued and encouraged in youth, as with independence and the ability to speak eloquently. Speaking for Australia and NZ (and hopefully the USA/Canada), a heavy outdoors culture was also endorsed, along with the social bonding that came with it -- growing up in sports circles really got you accustomed to hanging with hot fit birds. Sport was compulsory where I went to school, so was music for a time. It bred a sense of well-roundedness and adventure. In adult life, that translated to a good familiarity and taste in music, style, risk-taking and travel. There was a lot of importance placed on being well-read, appreciating the arts, world affairs and understanding food and alcohol.
How many guys from Japan or Singapore, for example, tend to be motivated to spend a few years in Europe or the Americas broadening their résumé (and chasing tail)? It's almost a rite of passage in most professional fields for Aussies and Kiwis -- the Asians among them are increasing. Would most Asian mums baulk at the idea of their sons being too far away from the family orbit -- and therefore, an un-Asian thing to do? Fuck that. My Dad travelled for work as a graduate so I'm glad he thinks otherwise.
We also got to grow up taller and more built because of all this physical activity, and also to diets heavy in protein and calcium. How many of you can say that you're only of average height amongst your family? Not least, we ended up with white social circles and accents that are globally desired.

It worked in my favour that my parents settled in a very white, upper-middle-class suburb. While I haven't gotten the chance to develop the qualities I wrote above as early and to the extent I'd have liked, thanks to certain Asian parenting traits and other personal circumstances I won't go into here, I reckon I've still got stacks of time ahead of me at 27.

Even my parents have been somewhat cognisant of the merits of growing up in a cross-cultural household. My dad certainly understands that it takes more than knuckling down in school and getting a stable job to find a wife, let alone a steady stream of changing pussy. I know I never got told I should be spending more time doing maths homework whenever I'd been caught being friendly with a girl.

Realise that even though the game might be rigged against you, a lot of these are self-imposed limiting beliefs or within your means. Things like style are easily rectified -- I still see Asian dudes out in the city in Bermuda shorts and sandals, even in spring and autumn. Verbal delivery will take a while -- Anything else less than fluent written and spoken articulation might sound cute on the Latin lover or Anglo caveman archetypes, but downright off-putting on an Asian guy. Accents will take even longer but are doable; many Asian accents -- I'm thinking of Hindi, Cantonese and Indonesian, are adept at drying up Western vaginas.

Asians who grew up in California and Vancouver are at a slight disadvantage because of they can easily blend into their own communities and not absorb a whole lot of the values I've talked up. Maybe there's less incentive to do so, but even upon reaching adulthood, such a lifestyle should be actionable. They really have no-one else to blame when the beta, pasty white dude wearing specs and khaki cargo pants that's banging their sister is higher up in SMV than they are.

Asian guys from Asia have it much harder. From what I hear, their game really needs work even just to keep a monogamous lifestyle. Have you ever hung out with dudes from East Asia? God. 95% of what they talk about is work, work and if that's too much, more work. If they're from Singapore or Korea, the conversation might also also revolve around their military service days.

I otherwise can't feel much sympathy when this thread ends up in a circle-jerk over why Asian dudes consistently bomb out in parts of the world but might do well in Asia. Which is to say that unless you're into Asian girls, you're condemned to an incel life. I've lately ended up making inroads gaming white English and Canadian girls, so I'd like to suppose that at least something I've been reading in this thread has been bullshit.

I must say one of the greatest blessings I've ever received completely unintentionally was growing up in a city, and then in a suburb, with almost no other Asians. I was forced to interact pretty much only with whites, and blacks and latinos to a slightly lesser extent. I think that I owe my social skills and confidence now, partly to RVF, but partly to not being sucked into a safe ethnic enclave like SF.

I've mentioned it before, but my mom is very traditional and therefore surprisingly redpill. She's been telling me for years that I need to find a good traditional wife at least 4 years younger than me, and to prioritize European, Latin American, and Asian women because they are more traditionally focused than American ones.

At the same time though, she is only now finally starting to learn that simply pushing for Princeton and straight A's is woefully insufficient in America, and that it requires extreme individualism and competent knowledge of how to work the white networks of power to advance.

Post: #217

Haven't read through the whole thread so apologies if it's already been mentioned but how about Ukraine? Since so many of you guys love white girls, to me that's the obvious choice.

As for growing up Asian in the West I actually did a lot of LSD and other hard drugs growing up (played in a band) and in hindsight, this was a good thing as I was living in a whole other reality than what many of you speak about. I would only add that race doesn't matter if your internal is strong. If it's not a race thing, it'd be a height thing, money thing, whatever external thing. Ironically, it's been my recent discovery of an ancient Chinese art QiGong that has helped me stepped my game up. Just being happy with yourself, being in the flow and exhibiting a positive vibe and energy (including sexual) is attractive to any race.

Peace out my fellow sleepy eyed Bruce Lees

Post: #218

(02-21-2016 05:58 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(02-21-2016 04:36 AM)Gas Wrote:  Most well educated Asian guys just end up working middle class jobs, probably bang 2 girls in their life, won't ever pick up a barbell and settle down in their 20s with a frumpy wife.

Can't say this is necessarily true for asia. I've seen some nerdy super beta looking and acting guys with good jobs with some extremely hot wives or girlfriends. Forget about seen I actually know a couple guys like this. One is in Taiwan and his wife is literally cover girl quality and he's some high ranked IT guy. The other guy I know is Thai and he's short, has a not so handsome face, and wears glasses and he also has a smokeshow of a girlfriend. They are all from middle class families too. They are good guys but you would do a massive double take if you're not used to seeing that.

Go to some upscale local nightclubs in Thailand and it's not unusual to see a pretty average or below average looking Thai guy with amazing girls around him. One of which is his gf and her friends.

I see versions of this nearly everywhere in asia except for maybe Singapore where every other Sing national is a nerdy beta with a good job.

I talked about this before in the travel section in another thread.. the way things are in EE, Latin America, and Asia is far closer to normal than the shitshow that goes on in the anglosphere. These women abroad take into consideration all the other qualities a man brings to the table too and makes her decision. It's way more rational and practical.

It's not that unusual in asia really. The whole put your head down, rise up in your career, and get a hot wife thing isn't a pipe dream there like it usually is in the U.S.

That was the point I was trying to make.

The Asian mentality only does well in Asia. Where arranged marriage still happens in the hardcore traditional communities, if you have the best grades you literally get the hottest girl in the village plonked in your lap and you're forced to marry her. China and Taiwan takes the cake for uber nerds wifing up hot ass.

A lot of Asian parents think this will translate to the west and it doesn't. Even (especially) Asian American girls don't give a horse's ass about your grades. They're out fucking some lacrosse player.

Of course we know this, which is why we are here and we learn game and we self-improve. But spare a thought for our ethnic brothers clinching their report cards, wandering lost in the straight A wilderness.

Post: #219

(02-21-2016 11:25 PM)fucksong Wrote:  Haven't read through the whole thread so apologies if it's already been mentioned but how about Ukraine? Since so many of you guys love white girls, to me that's the obvious choice.

I have my Ukrainian flag -- she's been living in London for a few years though -- and taken a few out to drinks which amounted to nowhere, and the impression I'd gotten is at least Westernised ones do well. My race wasn't really considered and I think Ukraine is still removed enough from Western pop culture that they don't really associate Australians as being a mass of blond, ripped surfers; which even Poles have started thinking of. Nevertheless, I've found that Europeans at least to the east of the Iron Curtain accepted that race transcended nationality.

(02-21-2016 11:25 PM)fucksong Wrote:  Ironically, it's been my recent discovery of an ancient Chinese art QiGong that has helped me stepped my game up. Just being happy with yourself, being in the flow and exhibiting a positive vibe and energy (including sexual) is attractive to any race.

Peace out my fellow sleepy eyed Bruce Lees

Dad studied Qi Gong and tried teaching it to the siblings and I when we were younger, and I'd have carried it on had I not lost patience. A German girl I approached at the beach recently brought up the fact that she practises it too.

In what way do you reckon it has assisted you with game?

Post: #220

Good point in bringing up that the Asian mentality works in asia. Beta game is so prevalent.

Post: #221

(02-22-2016 03:19 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

(02-21-2016 11:25 PM)fucksong Wrote:  Haven't read through the whole thread so apologies if it's already been mentioned but how about Ukraine? Since so many of you guys love white girls, to me that's the obvious choice.

....My race wasn't really considered....I've found that Europeans at least to the east of the Iron Curtain accepted that race transcended nationality.

Concur with the above.

As for Asian guys in Ukraine, here's some inspiration: /thread-44711.html

Also note some of the butthurt in that thread ...

Post: #222

@ El Chinito loco, the term sinkie is only well known in online community, I supposed you learn it from your friends or did surfed some of the local forum there?

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I don't get where some of you get the idea that the West is alpha and the East beta (like you can just slay by being "beta"). True, maybe in the countryside there might be stuff like that going on, but I don't know since I don't go to the countryside. Plus, all hot girls want to move to the city. Also, even if a provider dude has some hot girlfriend or wife, that doesn't mean she isn't getting dicked by other dude(s) - same as in America. There are alphas and betas in every country.

I will agree that at least a modicum of social skills are important and most Asian-Americans I run into are socially retarded (just general lack of social awareness and knowing how to act). This contrasts sharply with natives, who are much more "normal." (I am speaking from my experience of dealing with Koreans and Korean-Americans).

In my experience, there really is nothing that different about gaming in Asia, North America, Latin America, or Europe minus some slight cultural differences (for example, in Korea 99% of girls aren't going to sloppily make out with you in the club). You still gotta push all the same buttons and be a good-looking, confident dude that actually pulls the trigger.

Also, what is the issue if someone just wants to only mingle with his or her own type? (Say Asians sticking to the Asian community) I for one can't stand being around 99% of American people because of how vapid, stupid, and ill-mannered they are (no culture, no manners, no respect).

Also, this is a wider issue with PUA/"Manosphere" but some people are totally ok with getting a good job, a steady girlfriend, etc. Not everyone has to be a location-independent, passive-income earning, 1000 lb squatting, bad ass playboy that speaks 10 languages fluently. If you are a 150 IQ brainiac, sure get your social skills up to the point where you aren't Aspergers but after that, use your fucking brain that no one else has. Play to your strengths.

Also, for all those dudes who are on some sort of quest to only bang "white girls" and think they're too good for Asian girls (I was one, too until I got to Asia), come to some top clubs in Seoul. If you don't want to bang at least 80% of the chicks in there, you're probably a homosexual.

You can be a little bitch and blame all your insecurities like being poorly socialized, perceived only as Jackie Chan or Hangover guy, short, having a small dick, or whatever it is OR just be a fucking man and go for what you want in life, whether that be "white girls" or a steady job in IT.

I originally thought this thread would be interesting to see where I could get laid on EZ mode but it really makes me sad to see how insecure and downtrodden the Asian diaspora is. Have some self-respect guys

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(02-22-2016 08:28 AM)whiteknightrises Wrote:  I don't get where some of you get the idea that the West is alpha and the East beta (like you can just slay by being "beta"). True, maybe in the countryside there might be stuff like that going on, but I don't know since I don't go to the countryside. Plus, all hot girls want to move to the city. Also, even if a provider dude has some hot girlfriend or wife, that doesn't mean she isn't getting dicked by other dude(s) - same as in America. There are alphas and betas in every country.

I will agree that at least a modicum of social skills are important and most Asian-Americans I run into are socially retarded (just general lack of social awareness and knowing how to act). This contrasts sharply with natives, who are much more "normal." (I am speaking from my experience of dealing with Koreans and Korean-Americans).

In my experience, there really is nothing that different about gaming in Asia, North America, Latin America, or Europe minus some slight cultural differences (for example, in Korea 99% of girls aren't going to sloppily make out with you in the club). You still gotta push all the same buttons and be a good-looking, confident dude that actually pulls the trigger.

Being Asian who has lived in the US longer than in Asia, I thoroughly concur with this. Its basic red pill - focus on building yourself and the pussy will come.

I have average looks and have to admit that my lifetime same day bang count is embarrassing low. I focus on social circle game and more often than not, the girls chase me rather than me chasing them. Non-Asian women are considerably more aggressive and it is typical for the them to tell me that they were surprised that they were even attracted to asian men.

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(02-22-2016 08:28 AM)whiteknightrises Wrote:  I don't get where some of you get the idea that the West is alpha and the East beta (like you can just slay by being "beta"). True, maybe in the countryside there might be stuff like that going on, but I don't know since I don't go to the countryside. Plus, all hot girls want to move to the city. Also, even if a provider dude has some hot girlfriend or wife, that doesn't mean she isn't getting dicked by other dude(s) - same as in America. There are alphas and betas in every country.

Good points, but it was never mentioned that East = Beta and West = Alpha by default. There are idiots and winners in every society. The only thing mentioned was the old school mentality of raising kids to get good grades in the East...which obviously isn't enough.

Want to tell a kid that getting good grades only means that he will be totally exempt from getting screwed over in a dog eat dog business world of Mainland China? (You know the answer). That is unfortunately a problem in traditional Asian thinking when you really need great communicative, intuitive, and social skills to operate professionally in an ever changing complex globalized economy. That's the only thing we really criticized in perhaps what you interpreted as "Eastern thinking altogether = Beta."

You might want to re-read the latest posts in this thread before putting words in the mouths of others opposed to drawing foregone conclusions via skimming through quickly.

(02-22-2016 08:28 AM)whiteknightrises Wrote:  I will agree that at least a modicum of social skills are important and most Asian-Americans I run into are socially retarded (just general lack of social awareness and knowing how to act). This contrasts sharply with natives, who are much more "normal." (I am speaking from my experience of dealing with Koreans and Korean-Americans).

I'm currently in a South American program with many multinational employees not to mention traditional study abroad kids both from Asia. Their book smarts & professional acumen are of course top notch, but they're also exponentially more well-rounded in terms of social skills compared to a lot of Asian Americans. I can relate to this point.

(02-22-2016 08:28 AM)whiteknightrises Wrote:  In my experience, there really is nothing that different about gaming in Asia, North America, Latin America, or Europe minus some slight cultural differences (for example, in Korea 99% of girls aren't going to sloppily make out with you in the club). You still gotta push all the same buttons and be a good-looking, confident dude that actually pulls the trigger.

That's a good universal approach in terms of gaming with words of truth. All women at the end of the day are emotional babies that need to be lead by touching those aforementioned right buttons.

If we're talking semantics, the majority of Anglo women and Latin American chicks need to have their emotional chords struck 120% of the time...especially where I'm in now (Brazil).

The same approach should be used on Asian and European chicks...but from my travel experiences, there is a higher chance of being able to seduce these breeds with a rational & logical approach unlike their counterparts above.

The one exception to Latam girls I've noticed thus far would be my limited experience with Argentine girls as they can gravitate towards well-educated talk opposed to just only emotional seduction...though I should get a first hand shot of testing that out a little more in the future.

(02-22-2016 08:28 AM)whiteknightrises Wrote:  Also, what is the issue if someone just wants to only mingle with his or her own type? (Say Asians sticking to the Asian community) I for one can't stand being around 99% of American people because of how vapid, stupid, and ill-mannered they are (no culture, no manners, no respect).

Also, this is a wider issue with PUA/"Manosphere" but some people are totally ok with getting a good job, a steady girlfriend, etc. Not everyone has to be a location-independent, passive-income earning, 1000 lb squatting, bad ass playboy that speaks 10 languages fluently. If you are a 150 IQ brainiac, sure get your social skills up to the point where you aren't Aspergers but after that, use your fucking brain that no one else has. Play to your strengths.

Also, for all those dudes who are on some sort of quest to only bang "white girls" and think they're too good for Asian girls (I was one, too until I got to Asia), come to some top clubs in Seoul. If you don't want to bang at least 80% of the chicks in there, you're probably a homosexual.

I'm not going to congest this post by copying & pasting extra text, but read my posts in the link below:

1) - /thread-2750-...pid1224671

2) - /thread-2750-...pid1224800

3)- Something I really liked from member Elimanning - /thread-2750-...pid1226464

4) - Other posts I forgot to mention

There is nothing wrong with graduating college, finding a good stable profession that could be lucrative, marrying a good gal, and then raising kids in the suburbs. I know many happy people of that breed.

"Becoming a player" or the "processes involved" with that that journey are not cut out for everybody. With the world constantly progressing and greater numbers of women (especially Western) totally exploiting privileges of what "I believe" initially started out as an honest cause for greater access to certain career opportunities (feminism), this whole learning modern game stuff is very useful as a defense mechanism to what is occurring.

It's a defense mechanism for:
1) those recovering from divorce rape OR wanting to avoid it,
2) those wanting to not fall in the trap of an unhappy marriage or wasted toxic relationship, which consumes A) money and B) time
3) and being exploited by the opposite sex or mainstream culture

All three facets of life that are occurring more frequently these days.

And what's wrong with personal development? All those activities mentioned above are not mandatory..but hey..I do not regret taking the time to travel, studying languages in the library, putting in time at the gym, and wanting to know more about myself & world around me.

I'm not going to judge others who don't share the same goals or hobbies as I do. Our differences in long-term goals make us special

It's better putting that curiosity into concrete results opposed to doing what many people in my US city are doing nowadays...things I'm personally annoyed by such as:

1) Spending 40K on a wedding & 8k on a ring only at an early age only to complain about not having money to travel
2) Instagramming their brunch every weekend while forgetting to capture the weight gain that comes along with it
3) Wasting time on an 8 week kickball league
4) Ugly sweater parties
5) Drinking craft beer on a patio every Saturday

If you feel that quite a few of these contributions are not relevant to your life, then why not utilize & apply what YOU FIND IS USEFUL while skimming past the rest opposed to...lashing out?

(02-22-2016 08:28 AM)whiteknightrises Wrote:  You can be a little bitch and blame all your insecurities like being poorly socialized, perceived only as Jackie Chan or Hangover guy, short, having a small dick, or whatever it is OR just be a fucking man and go for what you want in life, whether that be "white girls" or a steady job in IT.

I originally thought this thread would be interesting to see where I could get laid on EZ mode but it really makes me sad to see how insecure and downtrodden the Asian diaspora is. Have some self-respect guys

In the past few weeks or possibly months, this thread HAS taken a turn in the right direction.

We're actually addressing many issues opposed to vaguely saying "oh hey...go this city or country where your SMV is higher."

These recent changes have collaborated solid Asian personalities that grew up from mainly North America, Australia, Asia, and possibly the UK discussing topics such as:
1) Their background & upbringing
2) The pros of the upbringing & how they plan on utilizing them (if they haven't done so already)
3) The cons of their upbringing & how they plan on overcoming them (if they haven't done so already)
4) Their personal insecurities & how they plan on overcoming them (if they haven't done so already)
5) The wide range of goals depending on each individual member & how they would possibly like to achieve them
6) Their life experiences
7) Their travel experiences
8) Aspects of life pertaining to what they feel brings value to them
9) Success & failure stories
10) Any good questions that could need answering from RVF contributors

For me at least, reading all this insight as a naturally fallible human being with of course *cough* his own insecurities & will to learn is absolute gold.

I'm sorry if you do not feel the same way.