erikak:
Where else on earth can Koreans slay, besides mainland SEA?
It's no surprise that they're exploiting the hell out of it, and in greater numbers than white people.


General Cebu observations:

Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar and Organic Coconut Vinegar: Ayala Mall, Rustan's Supermarket. Also has a decent European wine and Belgian beer selection.
The coconut vinegar smells like Siamsato - since they don't have ingredients in common, I'm betting the smell is from the same probiotic culture.

Coconut Oil, Zinc Picolinate, Magnesium Citrate & others: Ayala Mall, "Healthy Options."
Most pharmacies keep the 70% pure medical alcohol out in the open, but hide the dangerous Vitamin C and other supplements behind the counter. "Healthy Options" has a more open arrangement, so it's easier to browse. Coconut oil surprisingly rare, coconut everything else common.

Osmeña and Colon streets are shabby '70s and '80s buildings, of no real historical or architectural interest. Logistically, when choosing a place to stay, it's best to focus on distance from major malls.
Northern Osmeña street has some nice mountain views near the Capitol building, so there's that.

I recall one poster asking about Viagra: I was offered Cialis twice at the bridge on Maxilom street by the Osmeña circle by some disreputable looking fellow, who described it as "Valium" the second time. Right hand side facing the circle.

Local pensions are pretty lax about asking for ID, so pseudonyms are an option.

Yup, I've been offered valium constantly when cruising Mango.

Torrents are illegal here with jail terms up to 20 years. I saw some coverage about torrent moderators actually going to prison for it. Has anyone heard about small-time consumers like ourselves getting in trouble for such a minor thing? I heard a few fraudsters bragging about the lack of an internet taskforce but the coverage implies otherwise - and VPN's are mostly blocked in the places I'm staying in.

Really? They block VPNs in the Philippines?!

How can we protect ourselves then, when we log into our bank accounts and the like?

(02-18-2016 12:05 AM)erikak Wrote:  Maybe it's just the city I'm in but every single day I go driving around and I see non-handsome Filipino and Korean men with absolute GODDESSES.

These girls are tall, thin, perfect faces, long legs some girls are Korean themselves while the rest are mixed-looking Pinays.

The other day i saw one such girl who had the biggest rack for a thin Asian. Absolute goddess. With the noobest looking Filipino. They were climbing out of the guys economy car. I was walking to my car in Sbux parking lot. She saw me and my girl and smirked as if i were trash. Then we climbed into my turbocharged two seater. The looks on their faces. If you guys had seen that girl, and the guy, you would have raged.

It's all about money here and being korean/Chinese, not white. if you truly wanna slay here, and youre white, you need a really nice car, nice house, the whole deal. Girls I meet auto assume I am poor until I prove otherwise. Of course theyll tell you they dont care about money.

Few weeks ago, I was next to a trike in heavy traffic. And the trike had the most gorgeous girl with a Korean. Girl kept staring at me and had this look on her face like "What? I thought white guys didn't have money?"

I suspect there will be a lot less Chinese and Koreans with money in the coming years. A lot less.

(02-15-2016 02:46 AM)erikak Wrote:  The Philippines isn't that great. I mean, it's hard to make (real) friends here, we have to deal with horrible traffic and other third world issues, and in return, you get your pick of undesirable girls. Great.

And you guys keep talking about looks as if they actually matter here. It's like the people on this forum just choose not to see all the hot girls with fat/short/noob looking Filipino guys who drive economy cars and are thus "rich". As a white guy, you're behind those guys and Koreans/Chinese in desirability, because you are automatically perceived to be a loser backpacker, no matter what flashy suit you wear.

At Starbucks the other day, saw an 8.5 girl, 18ish, with a 5'6 nerdy Filipino in his mid 30s. At the same time, there was a younger white guy, late 20s, tall, good looking, with a chubby 4. I see this stuff multiple times every single day. The *one* time I've seen a legit hot girl with a white guy, the guy was at least 50 and looking like he had tons of money.

(02-18-2016 12:05 AM)erikak Wrote:  Maybe it's just the city I'm in but every single day I go driving around and I see non-handsome Filipino and Korean men with absolute GODDESSES.

These girls are tall, thin, perfect faces, long legs some girls are Korean themselves while the rest are mixed-looking Pinays.

The other day i saw one such girl who had the biggest rack for a thin Asian. Absolute goddess. With the noobest looking Filipino. They were climbing out of the guys economy car. I was walking to my car in Sbux parking lot. She saw me and my girl and smirked as if i were trash. Then we climbed into my turbocharged two seater. The looks on their faces. If you guys had seen that girl, and the guy, you would have raged.

It's all about money here and being korean/Chinese, not white. if you truly wanna slay here, and youre white, you need a really nice car, nice house, the whole deal. Girls I meet auto assume I am poor until I prove otherwise. Of course theyll tell you they dont care about money.

Few weeks ago, I was next to a trike in heavy traffic. And the trike had the most gorgeous girl with a Korean. Girl kept staring at me and had this look on her face like "What? I thought white guys didn't have money?"

You come across as a borderline troll with these post.

You said girls look at you like you are poor. How do you dress? Do you dress like a backpacker? Are you in shape?

Why do you worry so much about Korean/Chinese men?

Why do you care about a guy with a bad car having a hot girl? Have you heard about game? What about if he is modest and has a shit load of money in the bank and doesn't drop it on a car?

You seem to have a really defeatist attitude.

If you can provide details to your problems there are many of us that can provide insight into making things better. I've stayed in the Philippines 3 months but many other post here have been there much longer and are willing to help.

Edit: After reading this again I am near certain this is a troll.

(02-18-2016 12:05 AM)erikak Wrote:  Maybe it's just the city I'm in but every single day I go driving around and I see non-handsome Filipino and Korean men with absolute GODDESSES.

These girls are tall, thin, perfect faces, long legs some girls are Korean themselves while the rest are mixed-looking Pinays.

The other day i saw one such girl who had the biggest rack for a thin Asian. Absolute goddess. With the noobest looking Filipino. They were climbing out of the guys economy car. I was walking to my car in Sbux parking lot. She saw me and my girl and smirked as if i were trash. Then we climbed into my turbocharged two seater. The looks on their faces. If you guys had seen that girl, and the guy, you would have raged.

It's all about money here and being korean/Chinese, not white. if you truly wanna slay here, and youre white, you need a really nice car, nice house, the whole deal. Girls I meet auto assume I am poor until I prove otherwise. Of course theyll tell you they dont care about money.

Few weeks ago, I was next to a trike in heavy traffic. And the trike had the most gorgeous girl with a Korean. Girl kept staring at me and had this look on her face like "What? I thought white guys didn't have money?"

While it's true that being Asian is higher SMV, it's because of hordes of horny white guys coming over for short term P4P pump and dump operations and as long as you carry yourself well and not appear as one of those, it's going to be no problem.

On the other hand, I implemented this really amazing mentality, in which any girl who refuses to do me based on my nationality and finances gets bumped down to the bottom of my fuck giving list in an instant. It's really efficient, I recommend all you guys try it. I bet there's a name for it too

(02-18-2016 12:05 AM)erikak Wrote:  Maybe it's just the city I'm in but every single day I go driving around and I see non-handsome Filipino and Korean men with absolute GODDESSES.

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It's all about money here and being korean/Chinese, not white. if you truly wanna slay here, and youre white, you need a really nice car, nice house, the whole deal. Girls I meet auto assume I am poor until I prove otherwise. Of course theyll tell you they dont care about money.

Have you thought maybe it's you? Rockker was a noob with limited bankroll and slayed left and right. And countless other white guys too.

Well I take off in about 2.5 weeks now and I was getting pretty excited. Going over recent posts has tripled that. I've been keeping notes on the successes/failures of my pipeline game, and I'll see how it plays out over IRL and report back.

I will be staying in Greenbelt as per the advice of this forum. I think/hope I'm rather set up to hit the ground banging.

If my online game falls apart or I need to mix it I'll day game in the mall. For night game, where are the best spots right in the vicinity of Greenbelt? I don't want to get shivved wandering around in the dark or have to keep up small talk for awhile walking a pinay back to the hotel. Cheers!

(02-18-2016 08:59 AM)the Thing Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 12:05 AM)erikak Wrote:  Maybe it's just the city I'm in but every single day I go driving around and I see non-handsome Filipino and Korean men with absolute GODDESSES.

These girls are tall, thin, perfect faces, long legs some girls are Korean themselves while the rest are mixed-looking Pinays.

The other day i saw one such girl who had the biggest rack for a thin Asian. Absolute goddess. With the noobest looking Filipino. They were climbing out of the guys economy car. I was walking to my car in Sbux parking lot. She saw me and my girl and smirked as if i were trash. Then we climbed into my turbocharged two seater. The looks on their faces. If you guys had seen that girl, and the guy, you would have raged.

It's all about money here and being korean/Chinese, not white. if you truly wanna slay here, and youre white, you need a really nice car, nice house, the whole deal. Girls I meet auto assume I am poor until I prove otherwise. Of course theyll tell you they dont care about money.

Few weeks ago, I was next to a trike in heavy traffic. And the trike had the most gorgeous girl with a Korean. Girl kept staring at me and had this look on her face like "What? I thought white guys didn't have money?"

While it's true that being Asian is higher SMV, it's because of hordes of horny white guys coming over for short term P4P pump and dump operations and as long as you carry yourself well and not appear as one of those, it's going to be no problem.

On the other hand, I implemented this really amazing mentality, in which any girl who refuses to do me based on my nationality and finances gets bumped down to the bottom of my fuck giving list in an instant. It's really efficient, I recommend all you guys try it. I bet there's a name for it too

You should remember that the whole pre-arranged marriage thing is popular in PI.

There's also strong family pressure for siblings to get together.

Those guys you see could have a hot sister with a good-looking brother.

Aloha!

@ R4D2

How long are you visiting for? I'll be returning in April for three weeks. Have a good time man.

(02-18-2016 06:30 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(02-18-2016 12:05 AM)erikak Wrote:  Maybe it's just the city I'm in but every single day I go driving around and I see non-handsome Filipino and Korean men with absolute GODDESSES.

These girls are tall, thin, perfect faces, long legs some girls are Korean themselves while the rest are mixed-looking Pinays.

The other day i saw one such girl who had the biggest rack for a thin Asian. Absolute goddess. With the noobest looking Filipino. They were climbing out of the guys economy car. I was walking to my car in Sbux parking lot. She saw me and my girl and smirked as if i were trash. Then we climbed into my turbocharged two seater. The looks on their faces. If you guys had seen that girl, and the guy, you would have raged.

You should remember that the whole pre-arranged marriage thing is popular in PI.

There's also strong family pressure for siblings to get together.

Those guys you see could have a hot sister with a good-looking brother.

Aloha!

My ex would always get driven around by her younger brother in a simple car. They were from an upper middle class family and she was a model, he was a relatively dumpy looking Pinoy (no offense). Another thing to be said is that the upper class take relationships seriously from what I've seen. If they're both from good families, and meet at a young age at one of the top schools, there's also pressure to make it work.

Wealthy families operate like mini empires, and they may have connections with the local mayor, real estate owners, and major companies. They do favors for each other to strengthen bonds. My ex was hired at her former company at a high salary because her parents were friends with the GM. Many of the women live cloistered lives and are taught to only open their legs in relationships. They live at home until they're married except for maybe a few years away at a top school. Once a woman is accepted by the guy's mother, and the guy by the girl's father, the relationship is taken very seriously and won't be broken up unless something major happens. If the guy has a good background, her parents will pressure them to take it seriously and get married. Even if the guy looks plain to you, he may be heir to an empire and there may be other qualities you're not seeing.

Pinoys have a higher tolerance for drama in relationships, and though they may be less loyal sexually, are more loyal generally. Couples will stay together for years despite major fights and problems that a westerner simply wouldn't tolerate. That famous Pinoy drama and jealousy comes from a sense of dependency that Woften lack. They're generally more sweet and expressive romantically. Many can sing or play music, and know how to talk and act in a way that doesn't upset others. They are often warm and like to joke around, and exude happiness and fun. They also implicitly understand all the nuances of Pinoy culture and given the right background, are easily accepted into her family. On the other hand a stereotype of westerners is that we're more cold emotionally and more tactless in our frankness. At the upper levels of societies, some Pinoys are going to have superior qualities compared with Westerners. Some women will certainly choose them over you and won't fit into your standards of what a woman should be attracted to. Best to accept it and move on.

^^^Yea like i said before marriage= business. It also why mistresses are tolerated because sex =/= love or respect.

Make your $, looks, family connects, education and style work to make you a better you.

Its more than just sex in these societies. Its $ and connects> girls because there will always be another girl but you disrespect the wrong person you could easily end up blacklisted or worse.

Thats Asia period.

If you want easy sex, thats v doable but don't except to swoop non-stop high-class hot girls. They wont risk their reputations on some transient foreigner especially on their home turf. If they do want to swoop you need to do it semi-stealthy so she can keep her "face intact"

It boils to this. The lack of top tier girls in the Philippines compared to the general population has resulted in ultimate beta bucks being thrown around. The thirst is unreal. If you like the pale type, go to Taiwan, Korea, Japan. Anywhere but here. If your not aiming for that type this place is easier then shooting fish in a barrel.

Not only that since all the commerce is controlled by Chinese / those with some Spanish blood due to past colonialism those girls are almost always in upper middle class families, which results in further obstacles as they have multiple rich beta bucks guys chasing them at any time.

Some slip through the cracks and are born in the wrong side of the spectrum (for example a pump and dump) but the thirst for pale chicks means even they get up quite a lot. It is very easy to see why those on the bottom want to have babies with those who are foreign. At least their child has a shot of getting out.

Girls I've talked to told me literally they don't want dark babies, and I'm pretty much "as dark as they would go", and I'm not very tanned to begin with.

I met a girl in Cebu three years ago who was whiter than me and had freckles, her dad was an Aussie who I assumed pumped and dumped the mom because they weren't in contact and she spoke shitty English. Just a random observation but I felt sorry for her, the least the dickhead dad could have done was ensure that she got an Oz passport and a chance to escape the poverty she was living in.

^^ Exactly Putin.

I've said it before but why would someone specifically go to the Philippines, Thailand or anywhere in SEA to get the scarce pale-skinned Asians when there are literally hundreds of millions in China, Japan, Korea and so on? It doesn't make much sense to me to be honest. I get that the more affluent are usually less hassle though. That's a given. But honestly I think you might find better, sweeter white skin girls in East Asia.

Even so, some foreigners seem to buy into the pale = hiso thing way too much. There are plenty of Isaan bargirls with pale white skin. There are also plenty of dark girls with mad cash.

I'll admit an overall preference for paler girls but I swing both ways. If I didn't like the darkies then I certainly wouldn't bother with this region.

I'm starting to plan my next trip to the Philippines, and this time I'm planning on going to Bohol with a girl for a few nights.

I'm thinking a combo of motorbiking, sightseeing, chilling at the beach and other water activities will do the trick.

Do you guys have any resort/places to stay to recommend ? I've heard good things about Panglao.

Feeling a bit jaded after a month in the Philippines, but let me say this: for me it's worth it only for the age difference which is possible here. If you're over 35 and want 18-22s, you're in luck. For every other possible reason, go to other countries. That might sound dismissive, but there are a lot of problems here and I feel guilty paying cash to stay comfortable rather than being one of the people (and choking on fumes, eating unhealthy food, etc.).

(02-20-2016 03:54 AM)kaeru Wrote:  I'm starting to plan my next trip to the Philippines, and this time I'm planning on going to Bohol with a girl for a few nights.

I'm thinking a combo of motorbiking, sightseeing, chilling at the beach and other water activities will do the trick.

Do you guys have any resort/places to stay to recommend ? I've heard good things about Panglao.

Bohol is a decent spot. Alona beach on Panglao is a nice white beach, albiet relatively small. There's a decent amount of activities- snorkeling on balicasag island, chocolate mountains tour, tarsier sanctuary, virgin island tour, ziplining, and hinagdanan cave.

I would also consider Boracay while you're at it. There are a ton of activities and tours on it- kitesurfing, cliffdiving, parasailing, etc. The further you get from Station 2/Dmall the more private it becomes. There might be some reasonably priced places on the east side of the island. Puka beach is still relatively peaceful and can easily be accessed by trike.

(02-20-2016 03:54 AM)kaeru Wrote:  I'm starting to plan my next trip to the Philippines, and this time I'm planning on going to Bohol with a girl for a few nights.

I'm thinking a combo of motorbiking, sightseeing, chilling at the beach and other water activities will do the trick.

Do you guys have any resort/places to stay to recommend ? I've heard good things about Panglao.

Hey Kaeru,

Panglao has many options for acccommodation
What is your budget?
I wrote a little about it here
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-34766...pid1118579

On the east side of Boracay, I recommend the Levathian. The bar, I mean. Good food, great drinks, friendly people, and not too expensive.

As I said last time this debate came up five pages ago, reasons guys would prefer pale Filipinas over pale Chinese or Korean is: fuller lips, fuller eyes, fuller asses, better English, and vastly more similar cultures.

Personally, I'd rather have a Filipina with a 7 face but nice full lips, bright wide eyes, and a bubble ass than a Chinese chick who's probably a point or two higher for most guys but has no curves, slanted eyes, and thin little lips. And yes, I know there are Chinese women with fuller features, but that is not the average.

Obviously, that is not going to be everyone's preference. Cool. But I can't help but laugh when guys try to claim other people are crazy because they don't share this super black and white world view they do. Extreme generalizations don't help anyone.

Here's a good example:

A couple pages back, Putin Closes posted a video walkthrough of Market Market mall to show the "average" Filipina. Yet directly next door is a higher end mall that is guaranteed to be filled with more middle to upper class, fair skinned girls.

When there are two malls literally right next to each other with very different girls and very different stores, it makes no sense to generalize. A guy could walk across the street and have a totally different experience. If you simply say "Fort Bonifacio has this quality of girl", you completely miss that other experience.

It's also why it doesn't make sense to talk about the "average" Filipina girl. One could very easily stick to higher end malls, higher end gyms, higher end restaurants and bars, higher end coffee shops, etc. and always be surrounded by middle to upper class girls. As evidenced by the above example, it's usually as easy as going a few blocks down the street.

And to clarify for the people that haven't been here, the "higher end" scene will usually run you much less than the average US city. Manila also has some super high-end venues, but that's only necessary if you want to hobnob with the truly wealthy. There are still hundreds of thousands to millions of girls available who are middle class, educated, and fairer skinned.

Yes, the "average" girl is often poor and not very attractive, but the class lines are so stark that you could easily bump that "average" up by a couple points simply by choosing better venues. This is a big reason for the vastly different opinions on the country as a whole.

For the people who haven't been here, go to a place in the US where you have a Walmart and Target directly next door to each other. Go inside each. Inevitably Target will have the classier (relatively) shoppers. If you only went to one or the other, you'd likely have a completely different opinion of that city.

It's the same thing in the Philippines, except on steroids. In a place where the poor make $10 a day, raising your prices by a few dollars is enough to completely change the customers you attract. Locals will call a place "too expensive" when you, as a Westerner, probably didn't even notice the prices were different, given how small it is.

Another example where generalization doesn't make sense is grouping the Philippines with somewhere like Japan just because they're "Asian", when they have completely different food, culture, languages, and people. One is about as far "Eastern" as you can get, while the other draws the majority of its cultural influences from the "West".

So yeah, if you're only interested in girls and you only care about a girl's complexion and nothing else, then you should go to Japan or Korea.

If you have a longer list of preferences, like body type, height, language, personality, easiness, then there are going to be advantages and disadvantages to any of these countries. If you look past the girls, there are even more things to consider.

The Philippines is not for everyone, just like China is not for everyone, Japan is not for everyone, and the Asian region in general is not for everyone. I like the Philippines and have been eyeing a move to Korea, yet I doubt I would ever live in China. I'm sure there are guys who have almost the exact opposite opinion.

Sure, generalizing may be "easier", but I think there's room in this 120+ page thread for a little more nuance that that.

I never said anyone is crazy to come here. In fact, I explicitly said if you like tanned girls, this is the place to be. True pussy paradise. I'm explaining why in my previous posts, and it makes complete sense for anyone who has lived here for a while.

Millions of girls who are fair skinned? Please tell me where your coming up with that statistic. Cause I've been in QC and the "real" manila I see maybe 5% who are pale if that. In the province that pretty much drops to 1%. BGC is literally one of the most wealthy areas in the entire country and maybe 30% of the foot traffic is fair skin. Like I said before, I've been in SM Aura where I saw 80%+ WNB (including the old ladies). That says something. Granted lots of the foot traffic are the real "middle class" (aka poor in the US) who are window shopping and splurging to eat at the food court and take selfies on the roof since it is located right next to market market.

Compared to the rest of the places in the Philippines you could even classify Market Market as relatively middle/high end. Certainly not a lower class shopping mall. So the video is correct not the "average" filipina. The average is much worse, maybe take a shot from a random town in the province.

Also considering greenbelt/bgc cover maybe 0.1% of the land in the Philippines, I say its highly valid 99.9% of the Philippines has poor infrastructure, air pollution, corruption, safety issues, etc.

BGC / Makati is NOT middle class. It is where the 1% live. Maybe middle class in the american sense. Middle class you can argue is Pasig and QC, at least for Metro Manila. Yes there are millions of middle class citizens in Manila... which are making poverty US wages.

I'm just giving a second thought from someone who lives and works here, instead of adding to the hype train. Everyone keeps going to greenbelt and then extrapolates their opinions on the country from living within the 0.1% of the country which is actually 1st world. Granted everyone who can afford it, including myself, wisely keeps in the bubble, but that doesn't change the fact that 95% of Manila is a plain 3rd world dump hole.

Put it this way, in a country of 100 million how the hell is it possible that most jobs paying US middle class salaries go to graduates from the same 4 universities, whose class size maybe tops 10,000 total if that per year.

There is room in a 120+ page thread for different opinions. Yours is different then mine, that's what the thread is for. By all means post how nice this place is, after all its your opinion.

My Verdict: Long term Philippines will slightly improve, the bubbles will grow larger, a few filipinos will make it. 95%+ won't and be stuck in a cycle of poverty. Girls are mediocre if you like the Asian look, and if you like dark skinned girls pretty much any SEA country will be a pussy paradise lets be honest. The only reason its easier to rack up notches is because everyone speaks English.

Come to Manila for a few days and some easy poontoon and head out to the islands, cause the nature & scenery are stunning.

(02-20-2016 02:48 PM)Putin Closes Wrote:  Put it this way, in a country of 100 million how the hell is it possible that most jobs paying US middle class salaries go to graduates from the same 4 universities, whose class size maybe tops 10,000 total if that per year.

Which 4 universities?

(02-20-2016 03:54 AM)kaeru Wrote:  I'm starting to plan my next trip to the Philippines, and this time I'm planning on going to Bohol with a girl for a few nights.

I'm thinking a combo of motorbiking, sightseeing, chilling at the beach and other water activities will do the trick.

Do you guys have any resort/places to stay to recommend ? I've heard good things about Panglao.

I've stayed at Bohol Beach Club twice. It's nice. You're gonna see a lot of old white guys with their girlfriends from Angeles/MM but oh well. I don't like the restaurant there, though.

Air Asia from NAIA was maybe $120 and about abhor and half.

Please do not do the zipline any where in PI. Decent diving there though.

Not much in the way of nightlife.

Aloha!

(02-20-2016 02:48 PM)Putin Closes Wrote:  Put it this way, in a country of 100 million how the hell is it possible that most jobs paying US middle class salaries go to graduates from the same 4 universities, whose class size maybe tops 10,000 total if that per year.

The average US middle-class income is $46,000/year. It's my understanding very few 4 year degree graduates in the Phil are making that kind of money. Instead they are waiting tables and working in call centers for a fraction of that.

When I went to an ENT doctor I paid 500 pesos for the visit and 350 pesos for follow-ups. Let's say he sees 10 people a day/ 250 days a year. That's 1.25 million pesos/year (about $27,000 USD) and that's for a special doctor.