Post: #1

Counter Narrative is emerging.

Ezra Levent: The Left attacks “world’s most hated man” — but ignore Muslim migrant rape epidemic

And from CANADA of all places! The Video is ALL IMPORTANT.

Spread this like wildfire. I have turned two moderates to our side with this article & video today alone. Both of them are now concerned for my safety this weekend.

I would post the full text if I could right now.

This + The DOXXING will start to show the truth to the free thinkers out there.

Post: #2

Las Vegas is the only sane city in America. They actually cover "both sides" of this story - the hysterical side, and the factual side.

Quote:"This guy is no more advocating rape or even seriously advocating changing the rape laws than Johnny Depp is really a pirate," said Marc Randazza, First Amendment Attorney.

Randazza believes Roosh V.'s opinion on legalizing rape on private property is just a publicity stunt. Roosh V. published an article on his website claiming if rape became legal; women would make better decisions about who they go home with, but he said that was satire.

Satire or not, the article is making its rounds on social media and causing outrage. A lot of people say the blogger's views are nothing but hateful rhetoric, but Randazza says it's his constitutional right.

Post: #3

There is no doubt that a huge number of men saw ROK for the first time in the past few days and are right now trawling through the pages like we all did when we found our first masculine orientated articles on the net. Some will still be on the fence.

I'm trying to figure out how we can ease them on board with a succinct counter narrative that they can use themselves on social media.

Post: #4

(02-05-2016 03:21 AM)Sooth Wrote:  There is no doubt that a huge number of men saw ROK for the first time in the past few days and are right now trawling through the pages like we all did when we found our first masculine orientated articles on the net. Some will still be on the fence.

I'm trying to figure out how we can ease them on board with a succinct counter narrative that they can use themselves on social media.

Say to them plainly...

"You have known me for x years. Am I a rapist? Are you a rapist? Do you know any rapists? The question you need to ask yourself is do I feel rapey today?

Freedom of Speech & Freedom of Association are being threatened here. The basic tenets of our so-called Democracy. As a man/woman its is your duty to care"


Say it with reverence and patience.



If they counter with "it's all extremism...that will get us nowhere..."

Say... "I completely disagree. He's advocating the same ethics & values we upheld in this country right up until the 90's. You need to ask yourself how all of this is 'extreme' to your sensibilities.

If you do that, you will start to understand the depth of your lifetime of conditioning to disparage your own sex"


And follow right up with



Then throw them a bone & give them some praise for effect.

Post: #5

One of Voxday's latest :


The news, converged

http://voxday.blogspot.com.au/2016/02/th...erged.html

Oliver Campbell observes that SJWs, especially SJWs in the media, always lie. A staff reporter for The Intercept is busted impersonating his editor and fabricating quotes:

The Intercept recently discovered a pattern of deception in the actions of a staff member. The employee, Juan Thompson, was a staff reporter from November 2014 until last month. Thompson fabricated several quotes in his stories and created fake email accounts that he used to impersonate people, one of which was a Gmail account in my name.

An investigation into Thompson’s reporting turned up three instances in which quotes were attributed to people who said they had not been interviewed. In other instances, quotes were attributed to individuals we could not reach, who could not remember speaking with him, or whose identities could not be confirmed. In his reporting Thompson also used quotes that we cannot verify from unnamed people whom he claimed to have encountered at public events. Thompson went to great lengths to deceive his editors, creating an email account to impersonate a source and lying about his reporting methods.

We have published corrections and editor’s notes to the affected pieces, and we will publish further corrections if we identify additional problems. We are retracting one story in its entirety. We have decided not to remove the posts but have labeled them “Retracted” or “Corrected,” based on our findings. We have added notes to stories with unconfirmed quotes.

We apologize to the subjects of the stories; to the people who were falsely quoted; and to you, our readers. We are contacting news outlets that picked up the corrected stories to alert them to the problems.

What does convergence mean in an already SJW-infested media? It means that the news goes from being openly biased to entirely fictional. Remember, SJWism requires not only being delusional about reality, but relentlessly selling those delusions to the rest of the world, no matter how contradictory they are.

That's why any SJW in your organization should be Identified, Expelled, and Ignored. IEI. Where the president of the R Foundation failed was in not maintaining the second I; he apparently submitted to internal pressure and retracted. Don't ever give in to the entryists and activists no matter how much they whine, cry, and lobby; you will regret it.

I somehow doubt the editor of The Intercept will make the same mistake.

Post: #6

Bump








And thanks Aurini

(02-05-2016 03:13 AM)Aurini Wrote:  

Quote:"This guy is no more advocating rape or even seriously advocating changing the rape laws than Johnny Depp is really a pirate," said Marc Randazza, First Amendment Attorney.

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Post: #7

Ezra Levent: The Left attacks “world’s most hated man” — but ignore Muslim migrant rape epidemic

Quote:Last summer I interviewed Daryush Valizadeh, also known as Roosh V., the self-described pick-up artist.

A pick-up artist gives men tips on how to get dates. Or, to be more blunt, how to get a girl to agree to have sex. Naturally, some people don’t like that, especially some women.

In reaction to him coming to Canada to give a couple of speeches, tens of thousands of Canadian social justice warriors signed a petition to keep him out of the country!

In Toronto, the mayor and other politicians condemned him and demanded that hotels and conference centres not rent a room to him.

So that was last summer. But Roosh recently tweeted a picture of a plane ticket to Australia. That’s all it took. The social justice warriors down under went nuts.

Then Roosh said he was looking to hire a military-style naval craft make his Australian landing. The commissioner in charge of border security for Australia actually tweeted back to him, warning that the navy had made note of his plan of attack.

Can you believe that?

Some say Roosh promotes the legalization of rape. That’s not true. He wrote an article called “How To Stop Rape.” It’s satire, and anyone who reads it knows it was satire. Unless they don’t read it, and have no intention of doing that.

Here’s what’s interesting:

Back in August, when Roosh came to Toronto, he made a video. His father is Iranian, so in the video he said, Lay off! I’m a Muslim! He claimed he was seeking shelter in a mosque, and all those feminists hunting him in Toronto had better stay out.

And you know what? It worked.

Around that same time, the massive wave of Muslim migrants to Europe was just revving up, and that has led to the greatest wave of sexual assaults in Europe since the Second World War.

Australia is practically having an epileptic seizure over Roosh.

But Australia’s top imam once said that if women are raped, it’s their fault for not covering up in a burka. And it wasn’t satire.

Back in August of 2015, my point was, how gross it was for every politician in Canada to threaten to ban someone for having the wrong views.

But the story today is different.

Because all of these deeply concerned people who hate Roosh don’t really speak up about real rape culture.

Post: #8

Breitbart covered this reasonably well, though I'm not surprised.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/...-uk-visit/

Post: #9

(02-05-2016 06:57 PM)armenia4ever Wrote:  Breitbart covered this reasonably well, though I'm not surprised.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/...-uk-visit/

I am at that.

Was looking for a bit more from Breitbart. Hopefully Milo's got something to say.

Post: #10

(02-05-2016 07:02 PM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 06:57 PM)armenia4ever Wrote:  Breitbart covered this reasonably well, though I'm not surprised.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/...-uk-visit/

I am at that.

Was looking for a bit more from Breitbart. Hopefully Milo's got something to say.

The comments are refreshing.

Post: #11

(02-05-2016 07:11 PM)Rush87 Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 07:02 PM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  

(02-05-2016 06:57 PM)armenia4ever Wrote:  Breitbart covered this reasonably well, though I'm not surprised.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/...-uk-visit/

I am at that.

Was looking for a bit more from Breitbart. Hopefully Milo's got something to say.

The comments are refreshing.

Definitely the silver lining. Aurini's in there doing his best.

Post: #12

The guy that wrote that article for Breitbart, although I do not agree with him 100%, deserves a beer.

Why?

He used his brain, which is a rare thing nowadays in his profession. If there were more people like him, in his profession, who are not drones working for the regressives, but free thinking men, the world would be a much better place.

I salute you, Liam.

Post: #13

Davis Aurini's essay on RoK belongs here too...

Why International Meetup Day Was Cancelled

I hope all you newbies, guests, & trolls get the message...

Quote:Know your enemy and know yourself, find naught in fear for 100 battles.
~Sun Tzu

On February 3rd, 2016, Roosh was forced to cancel the International RoK meetup, scheduled for February 6. The mainstream media had been reporting on this men’s only happy hour as a “rape legalization group” for days, stirring up social justice warriors, inciting violent groups in several cities, and even receiving public condemnation from mayors, governors, and legal organizations. The risk had become unacceptable; as Roosh said, “This isn’t our Alamo.” Even a single man fired from his job due to SJW or Antifa doxing is one man too many. Not for a meetup; not for this.

A tactical retreat was the only sane option; however our enemies revealed quite a bit about themselves in this process, and we learned a little something about ourselves as well. With that in mind, it is worth considering what lessons can be taken from all of this.

Our Enemies Are Legion
Our enemy shows traits of both extreme cunning, and mindless conformity. On the one hand, they react like pod people, holding out their arm and shrieking when they spot any crimethink. They become completely unreasonable in such a state, babbling logical contradictions within the same sentence, admitting something is false and then immediately affirming its truth, demanding that law enforcement throw any and all civil liberties by the wayside, and working themselves into emotional hysterics.

On the other hand, they display extreme cunning. During Gamgergate it was revealed that the gaming press were coordinating behind the scenes, deciding which topics would be discussed and promoted, and which ones would be censored and dropped into the memory hole. Given that on February 2nd six nearly identical articles were published throughout the Australian press within hours of one another, all describing Return of Kings as a “Rape Group,” it is a near certainty that the Australian press is similarly controlled by collusion between the reporters on secret message boards. (It turns out that one company, Fairfax Media, controls nearly the entire press in the country.)

Quote:To coordinate to this degree demands sober intelligence, and yet misconstruing and overreacting to a satirical article precludes such intelligence. Trying to separate our opponents into two groups – the manipulators and the proles – is similarly inadequate. There is too much consistency. Both the upper and lower echelons share the same criteria for what is considered a threat.


This is what it looks like when narcissists flock

Most human beings subsume their emotional intelligence beneath their reasoning; when encountering another person they prioritize the spoken word over body language, and it takes effort to “listen to one’s gut” and spot the liars in our midst. This is why dogs can often be a good judge of character; an animal isn’t distracted by logic, it will immediately pick up on hidden, hostile motives instead of the advertising spiel.

Narcissists are the reverse. They will frequently contradict themselves, even denying outright facts that are presented to them, while simultaneously manipulating people with incredible precision. Where the healthy human slaves their animal brain to the frontal lobe, the narcissist is a beast who’s able to utilize the higher functions to serve the lower; being “triggered” is an open admission that the lizard is in control.

The behaviour we’ve witnessed over the past week is perfectly explained by flocks of narcissists, organized online, exercising vicious cunning with a human’s capacity for abstract thought. They are the metaphorical lizard people, dressed in skin suits, unreasonable and unrepentant. Those of us on the front lines have seen their true faces a hundred times before; after this past week, their nature has been revealed to all who had eyes to see.

Their goal is pandemonium. So long as it is chaotic, degraded, cheap, infectious, and ugly, they will endorse it, and they will use any tactic to achieve it: violence, lies, false philosophies, and pretend victimhood. They will be crying and vulnerable one moment, and coldly murderous the next. They are vicious, they are legion, and they’re organized as only animals who have known sin could possibly be.

We see you.

A choir needs a conductor

Through organizing and battling against their propaganda over the past week, we have been forced to address questions about ourselves. What are our motives? What do we hope to achieve? What is the end-state that we seek after beyond immediate material and ego satisfaction? We are men who believe in the cardinal virtues of justice, wisdom, courage, and temperance, and we pursue patriarchy, lawfulness, and freedom. We accept the responsibilities of masculinity; we accept the necessity of law and order; and we accept the bracing cold wind of working without a net.

That and $2 will buy you a cup of coffee.

Patriarchy, lawfulness, and freedom are respectively the products of charity, love, and hope; the theological virtues. Man on his own is incapable of achieving these for one simple reason: people respond to incentives – even us.

What were the upsides of this meetup? Making new friends, networking with men who work in other industries, and starting the process of building a community, something sorely lacking in this atomized age. The only substantive difference between this and a MeetUp.com hiking group would have been a greater degree of philosophical coherence and commitment (and even then – the sort of people who will leave their homes to go hiking are the sort who agree with us on most topics already).

What were the downsides? Assault, doxing, online smear campaigns, trumped up charges leading to arrest, and even death at the hands of on unstable lunatic. As great as the happy hour would have been, it wasn’t worth the potential cost.

This is only sensible, and yet it’s this sensibility that becomes our greatest weakness. Cancelling the happy hour was nothing more than a tactical retreat in the face of overwhelming odds, but it brings us to an important question: when is it ever worth the price? Why spend the time seeking out virtuous men instead of scheming against rich men in your own field? Why bother denouncing feminism, when approving of it will yield casual sex? Why bother searching for a woman worth marrying – passing up many guaranteed opportunities for short-term pleasure along the way – for something so uncertain, and so difficult to maintain?

“Self improvement is masturbation,” says Tyler Durden, as he points towards the cardinal virtues and the honors they’ll win us in this world; but what good is the world if you forfeit your own soul? “Now self destruction…”

Truth, beauty, and spirituality; these are goals worthy of self abnegation.

What we’re fighting for doesn’t make sense when we could satisfy our need for struggle through video games. Demanding freedom doesn’t make sense when we could sit around on the government dole. Seeking out the difficult responsibilities of patriarchy doesn’t make sense when the cows are giving away the milk for free – unless if there is some higher calling that we’re all responding to.

We can’t achieve any of these things as individuals; every interaction we engage in, every moment of every day, incentivizes against the loyalty and community we so desperately need to become our best possible selves. This spiritual yearning for both freedom and responsibility is what unites us, and pushes us beyond the merely rational; this world of endless Prisoners’ Dilemma games weighted in such a way to favour defection because at least that’s predictable.

How do we do it without exposing ourselves to their attacks? That is the question we need to be asking ourselves. Through introspection we will hear the voice of our conductor, and learn what song it is that we are meant to sing.

Quote:Tactical retreat, strategic victory


By attempting to set up this meetup, we effectively sent out a small expeditionary force—only to discover an entire division hiding behind the next ridge. They responded to our reconnaissance team with salvos of artillery, displaying their bellicosity for all to see, allowing us to realize the breadth and depth of the forces arrayed against us. They failed to annihilate us, and they gave away their position; meanwhile our position will be strengthened as more men flock to our cause, first out of curiosity, and then out of righteous outrage.

The time for debating our opponents is over. We are going to replace them. We are going to win.

A final word for all of those who attacked us, slandered us, and threatened us; we, the men who would defend you against those who would enslave and exploit you; we who fight, not for ourselves, but for the future. We will remember who you are, and we are a larger chorus than you know.

That ex-boyfriend who stole your heart? One of us. That charming married man at your office, with the beautiful wife? One of us. That wise mentor who helped you more than you’ll than you’ll ever know? One of us. And we saw what you said about us, without even knowing who we were.

The battle for civilization will be neither quick nor easy. We will win, but not without great struggle and many casualties amongst those who refused to pick a side. So remember something: when you or your womenfolk are being viciously assaulted and raped by third world savages whom you defended while decrying us—or by some gestapo thug, whom you empowered to oppress us, their breath rancid with garlic and rotting teeth—

That is the future you chose by standing against men of virtue.

Whatever town or village you enter, look for a worthy person in it and stay there until you leave. As you enter a house, wish it peace. If the house is worthy, let your peace come upon it; if not, let your peace return to you. Whoever will not receive you or listen to your words – go outside that house or town and shake the dust from your feet. Amen, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah at the day of judgment than for that town.
Mathew 10:10-10:15

Post: #14

Did Roosh V really organize “pro-rape rallies”? No, but here’s why people are protesting him.

Quote:But like most reactionary anti-feminists, Roosh believes that feminism and modernity have led to the downfall of Western society and to the oppression of men. As evidence of this, he and his ilk cite burdensome custody laws, higher suicide and incarceration rates for men, and the greater danger men face from gendered male labor like coal mining — all of which are genuine problems.

But for the manosphere, solving these problems tends to begin and end with blaming women for them. This attitude also leads to dangerous railing against non-existent problems, like the mistaken belief that women routinely lie about rape or exploit domestic violence laws to harm men.

... oh, the irony.

Quote:Why does Roosh upset people so much? Is he actually pro-rape?

It's no mystery why Roosh upsets people: He is rampantly, unapologetically misogynistic and homophobic. He routinely says or publishes absolutely vile things about women — and men, for that matter, especially "unmasculine" or queer men. His website, Return of Kings, runs pieces with titles like "5 Reasons To Date A Girl With An Eating Disorder" and "Street Harassment Is A Myth Invented By Socially Retarded White Women."

As for why people are so upset about Roosh in connection to these rallies, though, his "How To Stop Rape" piece from last year has a lot to do with it. In that post, Roosh argued that if rape were legalized on private property, women would be more vigilant about their safety and not go home with men they didn't want to have sex with.

Roosh insists that the article was a "satirical thought experiment," not an actual policy proposal, and the post now carries a disclaimer to that effect. But the idea driving this "satire" seems to be either that women are usually responsible for their own rapes, or that they routinely call something rape when it isn't.

That's an offensive idea to be sure, one that fuels the rampant victim-blaming of rape culture. But we can probably take Roosh at his word that he doesn't actually want to legalize rape.

emphasis ALL mine