Post: #5201

"Want to fuck but not come across an outright whore/seem desperate to lock someone down" would be my translation.

Post: #5202

Got another winner here.

Post: #5203

Are we allowed to post screenshots in this thread still. I met some cool bitches today and I also met 1 crazy bitch who was writing multiple paragraphs of negative emotional outbursts after I told her to stop acting like a bitch and take her medication and to seek help from a therapist. I had to call her out because she went on a whining rampage after she saw a picture on my profile of me kissing another girl and still talking to other girls online.

(02-02-2016 05:42 PM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 06:27 AM)LA Savage Wrote:  Just uploaded several more selfie photos of me kissing hot girls with a snapchat caption saying "This Could Be Us ?". I hope it works well since girls love a guy with options, it displays my player status, and it will quickly weed out the non-dtf girls and time wasters who are attention whoring for validation.

Save the selfies for snapchat. If you're 9/10 male model it may work, haha. I'd suggest one or two pro/dslr camera shots. One profile and one suited. The kissing could backfire and come off as try-hard to a lot of females. The key is a few quality pics, solid/original profile, and good text game. I think Rem and Kaotic do decent profile reviews. I'd shoot either of them a pm when you feel its complete.

Took your advice and took down my selfie pictures of me kissing other girls. I initially thought this will screen out all the time wasting girls and girls who aren't dtf. But I ended up getting a bunch of girls asking me if that was my girlfriend in the pic or who are the girls in the pictures. I did leave up a picture of me and some cute girls walking close beside me on our way to a party. I also left up one of those pics where a girl is holding your hand trying to pull you to an event and you take the picture from a point of view angle.

Also I don't have any professional pictures of pictures with my face in them as I work with the general public and the type of shit I say on there could get screenshotted and passed around by crazy bitches who want to cause trouble and ruin a man's reputation. I know this seems like mission impossible but so far I have got a couple of decent interaction with some girls thus leading to a snapchat so we can see eachother face to face.

But it's only been 24 hours that I have had this app and I still have a lot to learn and read from this thread. That's why I am not at the point where I can request advice from Rem or Kaotic and don't want to waste their valuable time.

As for text game I find it extremely hard to be patient with bitches who have over inflated egos, are hesitant to give out there phone number let alone reply, bitches who have no real intentions of meeting up in person let alone dating.

I read stuff in this thread and other threads about how some of you guys have been talking to some girls online via messaging back and forth ranging from 1 week to a month and sometimes rare cases even longer. It's incredible how much patients you guys have with these bitches who do nothing but waste time and play games.

If I can't get a bitch to meet up or set a close meet up date within 7 days of meeting her I stop talking to her and delete the number. I live by the philosophy that if a girl really likes you and wants to see you she will make time no matter what. It's happened to me and my friends over and over again thus when bitches give me responses such as maybe, let me check my schedule, or ask me in a couple of days I see it as her bullshitting me and wasting my time.

I remember a while back I met some slut at the club and tried to bang her that night as she seemed down to hang out some more but her fat friend kept cockblocking and was the driver so she had to leave. I texted her throughout the following week and it was like I was talking to a different person and she kept making excuses such as needing to help her friend with something or babysitting. So I finally grew a pair of balls and called her on phone and spoke to her for a bit overall saying to cut the bullshit excuses and let's meet up for real. The next day she ended up giving me a sloppy blowjob in the back of my car in a school parking lot. She wasn't down to fuck because she was on her period and I did not even bother persisting after that.

Now I have an abundance mentality and don't chase hoes I replace them. Either she is down to fuck or not. No sense in investing time in someone who won't do the same for you.

Post: #5204

(02-03-2016 05:23 AM)LA Savage Wrote:  I read stuff in this thread and other threads about how some of you guys have been talking to some girls online via messaging back and forth ranging from 1 week to a month and sometimes rare cases even longer. It's incredible how much patients you guys have with these bitches who do nothing but waste time and play games.

Precisely. Who has the time for it?

Quote:If I can't get a bitch to meet up or set a close meet up date within 7 days of meeting her I stop talking to her and delete the number. I live by the philosophy that if a girl really likes you and wants to see you she will make time no matter what. It's happened to me and my friends over and over again thus when bitches give me responses such as maybe, let me check my schedule, or ask me in a couple of days I see it as her bullshitting me and wasting my time.

I had a meet set up for middle of this week, but the girl lived in a weird area that's a pain in the ass to get to, and she wanted to book me in at an earlier time (5 pm, bad sign to begin with) when the traffic is at its worst. She kept declining my suggestions of meeting at a place a 20 minute drive closer to me and suggesting sushi restaurants a good hour away from me instead of the relaxed bar I wanted close to both of us. Girls who try to fight with you in this fashion and want you to constantly compromise are the ones you're never going to lay.

Quote:I remember a while back I met some slut at the club and tried to bang her that night as she seemed down to hang out some more but her fat friend kept cockblocking and was the driver so she had to leave. I texted her throughout the following week and it was like I was talking to a different person and she kept making excuses such as needing to help her friend with something or babysitting. So I finally grew a pair of balls and called her on phone and spoke to her for a bit overall saying to cut the bullshit excuses and let's meet up for real. The next day she ended up giving me a sloppy blowjob in the back of my car in a school parking lot. She wasn't down to fuck because she was on her period and I did not even bother persisting after that.

I encountered a pro-grade cockblocker over the weekend. The fat friend is the worst. It looks like this one even managed to fuck the whole interaction after the fact even though she appeared nominally friendly. Ugh, the fat friend.

All I did was call out the good-looking one on her friend's poor behavior and then went radio silent. Not sure it will work, but I don't have much to lose and I just know she's going to give me resistance to meeting. When I see her again at the club we'll see what happens.

Quote:Now I have an abundance mentality and don't chase hoes I replace them. Either she is down to fuck or not. No sense in investing time in someone who won't do the same for you.

Yeah, the first woman above ejected on me last night, telling me that we "couldn't agree on anything." I was a little slow in coming to a conclusion about a place to meet, it's true, but it was mainly because she kept pushing for venue changes, and while she said she didn't like "dinners" on a first date the places were all relatively expensive tapas bar type shit. Fuck that, I don't even really like buying coffee on a "first date."

This is a woman I know I'd never bang, the ones I've banged I could tell "yo let's meet in XXX on tuesday we'll play it by ear" and they'd be fine with it, not trying to get me on lock for some trendy place. There's another girl I've hopefully got set up who is okay with me not even telling her where we're going to meet until the day of, just what to wear. Why the fuck am I arguing over bars in different towns. Good riddance.

Post: #5205

(02-03-2016 05:23 AM)LA Savage Wrote:  Also I don't have any professional pictures of pictures with my face in them as I work with the general public and the type of shit I say on there could get screenshotted and passed around by crazy bitches who want to cause trouble and ruin a man's reputation.

I've been using fake pics on my online profile for the past five years. I live in a small town and have a business and I like to troll some of these chicks because in my experience the youngest and best-looking ones respond only to asshole game. I use fake pics for this reason - and for general reasons of anonymity.

My fake pics look a little like me. I have a real pic on Whatsapp which the non-time-wasters get to see. Not very many spot the ruse even when we meet, and it's never cost me a bang. Sounds crazy, but this has been my system for half a decade now.

Post: #5206

Some girls just reply to my opening messages with completely random shit. After a simple "how you doing" opener, she replies with "Quantos anos tienen tu sobrinos?" Mind you, this girl isn't even hispanic. She's asian and nowhere does it say on her profile that she speaks spanish.

My reply, "No tengo sobrino, solo sobrinas. Are you practicing spanish?"

Post: #5207

(02-03-2016 10:00 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  After a simple "how you doing" opener

Maybe this is the cause? 9 of 10 members of this board preach to get something crafted from her profile. Give it a try. I also noticed that many girls put this in their profile: "No Hi" / "And yes, I'm good. Thanks!"

Post: #5208

(02-03-2016 10:31 AM)RandomGuy1 Wrote:  Maybe this is the cause? 9 of 10 members of this board preach to get something crafted from her profile.

Nah, I did more than just those three words "how you doing"... I just didn't reveal the entire opening message, lest too many people see it.

Plus I don't bother with reading their profiles anymore because it's too time consuming. I don't have time to spend 5 minutes reading each profile, crafting a custom message, only to get no response. I read their profiles after they respond to my initial message, and only THEN I work off from there.

Post: #5209

(02-03-2016 10:31 AM)RandomGuy1 Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 10:00 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  After a simple "how you doing" opener

Maybe this is the cause? 9 of 10 members of this board preach to get something crafted from her profile. Give it a try. I also noticed that many girls put this in their profile: "No Hi" / "And yes, I'm good. Thanks!"

Generic "Hi" type openers work if you have on-point pictures/model good looks. Girls don't give too much of a shit about what you say if you're really attractive. Typical dudes will need to give a girl some meat to bite into, though.

You need to realize these birds get upwards of 15-25 messages a day and most of them are generic copy/paste-style shit or just vulgar. You need to set yourself out from the pack a bit to get attention.

***update on my no-message experiment***

I have a date this Friday from a girl that cold messaged my "normal" profile. She's cute too, looks like a solid 7 from her pics. I've been matching a lot and getting a lot of likes on my shirtless-pic-douchebag profile but have only got a couple of cold messages that led nowhere (girl stopped responding before I angeled for number/meetup).

Still have not mate a suited-up money/provider-type profile. It wouldn't hurt to make one but I feel pretty confident I'm not going to get much attention with that one, or if I do it will be from older girls. Might as well make one anyway.

Post: #5210

(02-03-2016 10:00 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Some girls just reply to my opening messages with completely random shit. After a simple "how you doing" opener, she replies with "Quantos anos tienen tu sobrinos?" Mind you, this girl isn't even hispanic. She's asian and nowhere does it say on her profile that she speaks spanish.

My reply, "No tengo sobrino, solo sobrinas. Are you practicing spanish?"

Barely scratches the surface, I had some chick histrionically texting me about how she was the first student from XXXX to be accepted to Oxford and how she finds us all pathetic and some analogy about ice skating.

This was maybe 8 messages into our exchange...



Meth is a hell of a drug. I can PM anyone the exchange if they're interested, it's pretty funny.

Post: #5211

(02-03-2016 11:00 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  ...

CleanSlate bear with me! ;-) Of course I know that you know what you are doing and your reputation counter displays that too, but I just wanted to try to help.

You're right, reading their profiles consumes too much time. Would you mind elaborate in which way you then create the initial text?

For example a girl stands on the beach / in a forest or whatever background. I then would probably seize up something regarding the beach were she was etc. So nothing special but 99% different from those typical "Hi, nice photo" messages. Would you slightly agree here?

Post: #5212

Dammit I just woke up this morning to find my account deleted. When I was going to sleep last night I was having a decent convo with a chick who goes to a nearby university and she seemed like a warm lead.
When I tried to sign in it says my account has been suspended for violation of terms but it doesn't show how long. Also I got no email notification of this or warning.

I guess too many hateful bitches reported me for having other cute girls in my pics or for calling them out on their bullshit of attention whoring.

Also for anybody who wants quick openers that bring quick responses from girls consider using this opener
"Do you like In N Out or Yogurtland? ".

The girls that are very sexual will understand that opener and other girls would just respond with which one they like. I spam messaged that to about 50 girls yesterday and got about 8 responses and 29 profile views. Also I learned it's best not to bother responding reading a girls profile until after she messages you, and to only message girls so are online at the moment for best results.

Post: #5213

(02-03-2016 12:16 PM)LA Savage Wrote:  Dammit I just woke up this morning to find my account deleted. When I was going to sleep last night I was having a decent convo with a chick who goes to a nearby university and she seemed like a warm lead.
When I tried to sign in it says my account has been suspended for violation of terms but it doesn't show how long. Also I got no email notification of this or warning.

Make sure you try to log in from a different IP address, like a public WiFi spot. I think OKC sometimes hellbans certain IP ranges for abuse, and if you have a provider like Verizon DSL that uses dynamic IPs, you can get hit by accident.

If that doesn't work then then one of the few solutions if you want to connect from home is to create a new account, spoofing the IP address via something like a VPN (though I think OKC may also ban the exit points of some commonly used free services as well.) As far as I know, account bans are eternal.

Sending messages that are overtly hostile or sexual to the wrong people definitely will get you hellbanned if you do it chronically and get reported enough, even if you're a paying subscriber. The male employees of the sites are all WKs (otherwise who could tolerate doing it for any length of time) and they also know where their bread is buttered. All major modifications to the site are done to improve the experience of women. If there's not enough bait to keep the guys occupied and the attention flowing, they're dead.

Post: #5214

(02-02-2016 11:04 PM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  Got another winner here.

Doesn't really bother me, it's a free country, everyone is entitled to like what they like. If some idiot wants to date her and not get sex while she bangs other guys, well...

Unless you weren't being sarcastic.

Post: #5215

(01-28-2016 04:12 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:  The basic conundrum of online dating (and why many women enjoy it so much) is the following: Men are primarily focused on the results of the process, while women derive much of their enjoyment from the process itself.

For women who do online dating, the entire process of selecting flattering pictures, writing about themselves, receiving and responding to messages, having their phone blow up and feel desired, complaining to each other about "creeps" making sexual comments and texting them unsolicited dick pics and the dumb things guys with no game say, making dates, flaking on dates, going on dates, ghosting, and making dates again, is immensely enjoyable. It's a worthy substitute for Netflix and a suitable distraction from their 9-5 grind and their otherwise often unremarkable lives. It's good entertainment.

Does a man get any enjoyment out of the "process" of online dating? Almost certainly not - we'd rather be doing just about anything than chatting with random internet girls about bullshit whom we're more often than not never going to meet. I'd rather get my taxes done.

So a chick who texts with you for two days and then ghosts on you prior to a date likely doesn't feel that her time was "wasted" in any sense. It provided good entertainment and validation for the period the engagement lasted, and that was value enough. The story is often the main subject of interest, not the ending. Which is why soap operas last for 27 seasons.

On another thread someone called women who make plans and flake to be "loser females." To an extent, I certainly agree. But women are what they are, and even if they end up bailing on you, they're always getting something out of it and you're not. So who's the real loser? Even women with a lot going for them and whose time is valuable will still enjoy this stuff occasionally - it's the way they come, as surely as with all I know about conflict resolution that I still want to bash someone's head in with a rock from time to time. The only real "winning" move is not to play, except that's not winning at all. Unfortunately there's no way around it, you have to lose to win. Nature has engineered things such that I think this is unavoidable.

I don't know that these are in any way "revolutionary" truths about women, but I think that's the mentality one should always keep in mind.

Quoted and Repped for Truth. I don't know how you guys are able to deal with all the BS online comes with. I'm glad I can easily direct approach cute girls in real life and game them where my results would be instant and more in my control. Nothing beats fucking a girl you just met in real life less than 1 hour ago vs spending hours and hours sometimes even days talking to a girl you have never met before who ghosts on you as soon as it's time to show her true colors and meet face to face.

Post: #5216

(02-03-2016 04:32 PM)LA Savage Wrote:  Quoted and Repped for Truth. I don't know how you guys are able to deal with all the BS online comes with. I'm glad I can easily direct approach cute girls in real life and game them where my results would be instant and more in my control. Nothing beats fucking a girl you just met in real life less than 1 hour ago vs spending hours and hours sometimes even days talking to a girl you have never met before who ghosts on you as soon as it's time to show her true colors and meet face to face.

I don't know man. I've had 6 or 7 women who I message for about a half hour, come straight to my apartment, and bang them out within 20 minutes of them walking through my door.

Most of the time, you have to catch them in the right mood. Just like direct approaching, even though it's a numbers game, there are times you will catch a woman in the right state of mind where she needs a good dicking.

Post: #5217

Just got a # off OKC... a 32 year old Korean, and pitched for a meet on Friday. We texted for an hour or so before bed. It was a decent conversation... like in the good ol' days.

Whether that actually leads to something (most likely not), it was a refreshing change from the usual one-word or non-responses with an air of "I'm too good and busy for you". Maybe her being 3-4 years FOB had something to do with it. But it was nice having a conversation that didn't leave me feeling frustrated or further jaded. For once.

Post: #5218

I can so easily empathize with Savage on this one, but I know that there are for real champions like Remington who are scoring results from online. His profile must truly be speckled with gold dust.

Post: #5219

Don't know if this has been posted before (probably has). Couldn't find it after a quick search, although I may have searched wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65fRrFJnrBg

Can't find a fault with his ideas, and he is entertaining to listen to.

Thoughts?

Post: #5220

@Mess.O, not gold but diamond dust. Haha.

@Savage: Try shooting an email to the admin or trying XPQ's advice. As far as crafting a great profile, sometimes a bit of story telling, whichever way you can project your personality through words and of course pictures.

When I did online dating (OKC), the talent sucked. I crafted a decent enough profile but I can honestly say that I was denied by 6s on there and went out with 7s on tinder. That may be a better fit, quality and quantity.

On the chance that you are suspended indefinitely, its likely one of the girls wrote an upsetting response to one of the admins/mods of the site and they banned without notifying you.

Post: #5221

I made another profile earlier this afternoon with no issues using the same phone and got back to business. I just spam messages a bunch of bitches before I went to work so that when I get back home I would have alot of responses waiting. As expected these girls are responding but not engaged enough to have an actual conversation. Tonight I only had 2 lengthyw conversations which 2 bitches who live within driving distance. I'll hit them up for their phone number and snapchat when I wake up in the morning. If they aren't down to give it out then fuck them to many better looking and positive personality out there for me to care. I'm excited to get back out and approaching in Hollywood this Friday and Superbowl Sunday. Plus Valentine's day is coming soon sonmore girls are gonna want someone to be with even if it's for a short period of time.

Post: #5222

Things seem to be coming alive on OKC these days. I think it's because this is February and we're getting within the V-Day window.

The other part of it is I have been going deeper into niches. Instead of spamming every decent girl I see, I focus on particular nationalities that I have been particularly successful with in the past. OKC's search feature helps with that... it would be nice if Tinder had the same thing.

Post: #5223

^
What I do is I focus on girls only who look and behave similar to girls I had in the past. You mostly know which type of face of the girl pounces to you the best / fits to your personaly the most so to speak.

Of course during the online game you can't really judge the behaviour.

You probably know this saying which goes like: "You always (unconsciously) attract the same type of girl in your life."

Post: #5224

(02-04-2016 11:51 AM)RandomGuy1 Wrote:  ^
What I do is I focus on girls only who look and behave similar to girls I had in the past. You mostly know which type of face of the girl pounces to you the best / fits to your personaly the most so to speak.

Of course during the online game you can't really judge the behaviour.

You probably know this saying which goes like: "You always (unconsciously) attract the same type of girl in your life."

^I typically only message a girl who "likes" my profile. Unless the woman is particularly intriguing, which is a rarity, I will not message unless I receive positive feedback.

Positive feedback can be the her "liking" my profile out of the blue, mutual "liking" of profiles, or her randomly messaging me.

If I get random "likes" or messages, I will review her profile. First thing is pictures; if she passes my boner test. Then, I will look at her profile to determine if she is crazy. If she isn't a nut job, I'll send a message.

Post: #5225

(02-04-2016 09:44 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  Things seem to be coming alive on OKC these days. I think it's because this is February and we're getting within the V-Day window.

The other part of it is I have been going deeper into niches. Instead of spamming every decent girl I see, I focus on particular nationalities that I have been particularly successful with in the past. OKC's search feature helps with that... it would be nice if Tinder had the same thing.

"I focus on particular nationalities"

I remember setting my filter to asian only and spamming original openers. No luck mane. In my area, OKC was full of more SJW, artsy, hispter types anyway.