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RE: Wroclaw, Poland Trip Report
(10-29-2015 03:48 PM)Alomongerpete Wrote: Hey guys. I recently came back from Poland and wrote a blog post sharing some tips: https://mrbanks5.wordpress.com/2015/10/1...by-poland/
The link is broken. So I pasted it below. Also OP, I think you need to read the rules about promoting yourself. Welcome to the forum, not trying to be a dick, just letting you know there are rules about promotion.
Quote:A couple of weeks ago I returned from a ten day trip to Poland. One of the main reasons that I was out there was to meet women and try to bring them back for some Netflix and chill.
Unfortunately I didn’t get much rest, relaxation and did not get any Polish flags. I also fell ill halfway through which really hampered my time working the streets but I want to share my experiences and insights with you guys;
Game Is Universal
I’ll start with a disclaimer; please do not think for a second that because you have hopped on a plane and travelled thousands of miles that game will be any easier than it is back home.
If your game and general attractiveness is not up to much in your native land, then you will operate at that level in Poland, don’t expect it to be much easier, in fact the logistics might even make things more difficult for you.
As soon as I touched down in the airport and went through passport control, I tried saying a bit of Polish to an officer there, she did not look amused and was clearly not attracted by the nice-guy validation seeking energy that I had emanated. Self-respecting women are not looking for validation seeking nice (deceptive) guys so just don’t run that stuff!
Pipelining
The use of online dating apps can be fun and a straightforward way to generate leads. The two most reliable ones are probably Tinder and Couchsurfing. Don’t bother using location faking apps from your home as you may get girls wanting to meet you that night.
Other apps of note are Badoo (change your location to Columbia and then upgrade to Superpowers for a cheap price) and perhaps Plenty of Fish (I didn’t use this one so I can’t comment on its efficacy).
With Couchsurfing I do not recommend arranging to stay at the girl’s house as that is truly putting all your eggs in one basket and not a smart play. I recommend pipelining around a month before the date of your arrival, and then two weeks before touchdown following up any leads to ensure they are ready to meet.
Tinder is great to get quick matches and even in “Catholic” Poland almost everyone is on there just to fuck. I went on a date with a woman in Warsaw using this and she was very open and explained a lot about the dating scene in Poland. In short, it sounds very similar to any major city in the West.
My friend and I both found Badoo a bit weird. You can easily get a lot of attention but conversion rate to real life meeting or even just messaging is not great. Plus you can get “liked” by girls on the other side of the country.
Many girls aren’t keen to communicate in English and you face the usual market dynamics problems of online dating (a ridiculous amount of supply of men and a finite number of attractive women with women’s access being pretty much untethered). As such, I highly recommend that online dating apps are used only as a contingency. Your best results will come from daygame and the next best from clubs.
The Women
The highlight of my whole ten days in Poland were their amazing selection of women, typing this back in London is a little depressing. The ladies were so feminine and pretty that I was popping boners just asking for directions in the stores in Warsaw. I hadn’t experienced that shit since I was like 14 back home (I have since realised this was linked to my recent use of the androgenic herb maca).
The women I approached were all friendly, humble and appreciated the attention. I genuinely enjoyed the conversations and some were quite eloquent and dare I see it poetic with their use of language. Generally they are slim and have thin frames, breasts aren’t bad and good legs are sometimes on show but if you’re looking for stacked asses Poland is definitely not the place for you. If you’re from the UK or America it will take you at least 24 hours to get used to the fact that the fat chick to thin chick ratio is flipped on its head over in Poland. Even the older women still look in good shape and tend to maintain long, flowing hair.
Roosh V sums up common characteristics very well: http://www.rooshv.com/13-personality-tra...lish-women
Location
I’ve only been to three cities in Poland so can’t provide first-hand insight into other places. First things first, don’t be an idiot, Krakow is not a good place for gaming. It has been ruined by British stag parties and sex tourism, combined with the immense commercialism. I must say that I enjoyed the city when I visited it and it is very tourist friendly but it is just not the best spot for pickup.
This year I visited Warsaw and think it has some of the hottest women in Poland. There were a lot of stunners in the city centre. I highly recommend staying centrally and working the local mall (Zlote Terasy). You can also sit at a restaurant just outside it and do some fishing (sitting in one spot waiting for women to go past before approaching). If you do it discretely you can even game women in the local stores as the shop workers tend to be surprisingly attractive. I hated the fact that you had to walk along the underground subway to get places in Warsaw and while nowhere near London’s intensity, the city was quite hectic.
If I could have done the trip again I would have just had an extended stay at Wroclaw and not bothered with Warsaw. Wroclaw was more relaxed but still had a buzz to it. I stayed very close to the market square which felt like it was practically designed for pickup. I ended up doing circuits in which I went from the Burger King to the McDonalds to the Starbucks etc. all the while working the streets. You can get in a lot of approaches in a short space of time and the locals tend to very friendly.
To Be Or Not To Be
I recommend doing direct game as the women are not used to this approach so you come across as perhaps a bit daring, confident, romantic etc. This is the only style of game that I am into and I’m not going to get into a direct / indirect game debate here. Although I will say that one of my travel buddies was running indirect game and got good results, so I think both can be effective.
Key points here are that none of the cities in Poland are anywhere near as frenetic as London, New York etc. As such, there is really no need to be doing Yad Stops or running a particularly high energy game on the streets. Be a bit flirtatious and sexual and you can always come in a bit soft and then up the ante once some comfort / rapport has been built. As I said, the women tend to be warm and happy to have a conversation, so you don’t need to hit them with high energy just to try to get their attention like on Oxford Street.
The footfall in most central areas in Warsaw / Wroclaw was always very good, so fishing can work pretty well.
Clubs
I only did one night of clubbing throughout my ten day trip. I had a great time drinking in Warsaw with the main club we went to being the Capitol Club. It had a good female to male ratio, cool vibe and was good fun. From what I’ve heard it is very tough to get a one night stand from a girl in Warsaw and you’ll typically need a couple of dates to seal the deal.
The clubs didn’t seem that different from London clubs and my opinion the usual sort of nonsense went on. They seem to attract bitchy and bad behaviour from girls who are high on their pedestal and drunk on the adulation from horny guys. However one advantage is that the competition is less stiff than in London. Polish guys typically have very bad dress sense and clothing, are often too nervous to approach even while drunk and their only dance move is the immortal two-step. I’ve never much been into club game so can’t offer much wisdom in this area.
Barriers
There were two main barriers that seemed somewhat unique to Poland compared to London and similar cities. The first was the girls that said they didn’t speak English, this can be a real problem. Sometimes this is just them being self-conscious as some can be embarrassed if they don’t speak perfect English.; I recommend smiling at them with a cheeky look in your eyes and just telling them that you’re sure that they speak enough English. Maybe even compliment her skills. Another tip is to try and focus on university (college) age girls, I’m talking 18 to early 20s as they tend to speak better English than the older generations.
The second annoying obstacle can be that the college girls are so dedicated to their studies that they find it hard to make time to come out and party. Basic sales techniques and gamesmanship are your only hope with these situations, you could of course use the “how often does this ever happen to you” line to let her know this is a rare opportunity for some cool foreigner dick.
Wings
While it is very much possible to achieve success rolling solo, for the best experience I would recommend trying to travel with one or two wings. I don’t recommend getting a big group of guys together as most cities in Poland are pretty small and you may develop a bit of a reputation. A fundamental with pickup is maintaining a positive and fun vibe, as well as staying determined. If you are all by yourself for a sustained period of time you may feel a bit lonely and it’s not always much fun. Travelling with a couple of buddies will make it more of an adventure and it’s easy to do sets with multiple girls and exchange notes etc.
Good forum to find a wing: /forum-3.html
Sex Playlist
Back in the UK I had purchased a docking station. The plan was to invite girls back for a drink and some music. If you don’t have one already you might consider arranging a playlist that will help with your escalation and general fucking experience and definitely call it something other than “sex playlist”. Here’s one I made earlier: https://open.spotify.com/user/markymark7...W1EdZSn5Qb
Accommodation
I highly recommend staying in an apartment rather than a hotel. “Come back to my apartment” is a lot less sleazy than, “do you wanna come to my hotel? Baby I will give you my room key etc.”
When I was in Warsaw I mostly stayed in at Warsawrent Apartamenty Centralna and had a great experience. I booked using Booking.com and it offered a very central location and great value for money, the owner’s daughter is fucking hot as well.
In Wroclaw I also stayed close to the city centre, right near the market square and stayed with Exclusive Apartments, which I also recommend.
Timing
For university towns like Warsaw and Wroclaw I believe that April and October are the best months for your visit. These are effectively the starts of term so college girls will be abundant and easier to convince to hang out than in the heat of exam period. Summer is best for Gdansk and other towns that the local girls travel to for their holidays as well as smaller towns that they will go back to outside of term time.
Cost
Here is a rough breakdown of my costs for spending 10 days in Poland and flying to and from London:
Flights (including hold luggage): £170
Spending Money: £400
Train Ticket (Warsaw to Wroclaw): £10
Three Nights in a Studio Flat at Warsawrent Apartamenty Centralna: £110
One Night in Queen Room at the Hampton by Hilton Warsaw : £73
Five Nights at Exclusive Apartments (Wroclaw): £210
Grand Total: £973
As you can probably tell, I stayed in some fairly plush accommodation, so it is possible to do the trip more cheaply than I did. In terms of spending money, I only went out drinking a couple of nights and didn’t go crazy spending money on booze. I did nothing extravagant but did enjoy a good steak most days I was out there and used taxis frequently.
Further Reading / Videos
The only book I know of that focuses on gaming out in Poland is Bang Poland by Roosh. It’s an easy read and covers a variety of cities. I disagree with his recommendations to avoid running direct game but think there is a lot of useful information. http://www.rooshv.com/bang-poland
Poland pickup videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0YQbxKI234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8roWGZ1S8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQRWnahOLEI
Aftermath
I felt slightly down as the average woman in London can’t begin to hold a torch to their equivalent in Poland. However we all have to make the most of our location and opportunities. London has a lot of great women but is a very competitive market and finding a feminine woman who doesn’t play games and is nurturing and capable of an interesting conversation can be tough. As crazy as it might sound, if I am not in a high quality relationship when I’m about 35 then I am likely to take several weeks break from work, fly out to Poland or a country in Eastern Europe and go hunting for a long-term partner. Once you’ve tasted the red pill and become aware of the alternative dating prospects available, you won’t settle for a same-sex relationship in which the “woman” is as masculine as you are.
Alternatives
While Poland is definitely a good place for pickup, there is some talk that it has been going downhill so you might first consider doing a little due diligence on other destinations. Roosh recommends Romania and the Baltics. I might also consider Hungary and the Czech Republic, as well as Russia and Ukraine (but of course steer clear of anywhere close to war-torn regions).
Interesting article below:
http://www.rooshv.com/5-reasons-why-you-...-to-poland
Thanks for reading and please leave any questions / comments / feedback below.
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