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Hotwheels · 2016-01-11 22:25:00 · #6326
First printing of Mein Kampf sells out instantly in Germany. May be hope for them yet.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...years.html
Tytalus · 2016-01-11 22:49:00 · #6327
(01-11-2016 10:25 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  First printing of Mein Kampf sells out instantly in Germany. May be hope for them yet.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...years.html

I thought it was very popular in the arabic community for it's anti jew views. It selling out may not mean the locals are buying it.
Hotwheels · 2016-01-11 23:08:00 · #6328
(01-11-2016 10:49 PM)Tytalus Wrote:  
(01-11-2016 10:25 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  First printing of Mein Kampf sells out instantly in Germany. May be hope for them yet.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...years.html

I thought it was very popular in the arabic community for it's anti jew views. It selling out may not mean the locals are buying it.

I'm looking more at the nationalist aspect, than the antisemetism.

Of course it's not much of a reach to just change out the Jews for Muslims if one wanted.

Also, as this edition is printed in German, I doubt many Muslims are buying it.
Saga · 2016-01-11 23:18:00 · #6329
(01-11-2016 10:25 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  First printing of Mein Kampf sells out instantly in Germany. May be hope for them yet.

I cannot share that particular hope, for avoiding one doom is of little use if it is accomplished by crashing into yet another. Nazism is the nationalism of the baying mob, not the patriotism of principled men. It no less a revolutionary ideology than Bolshevism, antithetical to the maintenance of past inheritance and anathema to the fortunes of future generations.
Eskhander · 2016-01-12 00:06:00 · #6330
(01-11-2016 11:18 PM)Saga Wrote:  
(01-11-2016 10:25 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  First printing of Mein Kampf sells out instantly in Germany. May be hope for them yet.

I cannot share that particular hope, for avoiding one doom is of little use if it is accomplished by crashing into yet another. Nazism is the nationalism of the baying mob, not the patriotism of principled men. It no less a revolutionary ideology than Bolshevism, antithetical to the maintenance of past inheritance and anathema to the fortunes of future generations.

This is definitely true. But what made Hitler come into power was the desperation of the Weimar period. So there's probably going to be some level of irrational nationalism anyway.

And National Socialism, so I've heard, is in many ways a counter to communist subversion. Which was happening in Germany at the time so there's a reason it has those similarities to Bolshevism
storm · 2016-01-12 00:11:00 · #6331
Germans would not be buying MK if they drank the koolaid.

MK sales could be used to calculate the number of uncucked Germans.

EDIT: never read the book
Fender_Bender · 2016-01-12 01:14:00 · #6332
This is a good compilation of migrant related crimes that aren't being largely reported in the media.

https://www.reddit.com/r/invadercrimesmatter

What is infuriating about many of these stories is that instead of severely punishing these people for their crimes at best they are deported (after which they can then slither their way back into the country or another), and at worst set free to commit more crimes like the article here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/european/commen...in_munich/

Here the 15 year old being investigated for sex crimes on NYE, commits rape and is set free AGAIN.

This is how real vigilante action begins, when the justice system utterly fails the people it is tasked to protect.
avantgarde · 2016-01-12 01:50:00 · #6333
Dude, Donald trump is a businessman foremost, he tells what u wanna hear. He ain't gonna do much different from the other candidates.
Paracelsus · 2016-01-12 01:56:00 · #6334
(01-12-2016 01:50 AM)avantgarde Wrote:  Dude, Donald trump is a businessman foremost, he tells what u wanna hear. He ain't gonna do much different from the other candidates.

I'll take a career businessman over a career politician any day of the week, the rationale for that being the combined results of trusting career politicians with our countries for the past fifty years or so.
Eskhander · 2016-01-12 02:00:00 · #6335
(01-12-2016 01:50 AM)avantgarde Wrote:  Dude, Donald trump is a businessman foremost, he tells what u wanna hear. He ain't gonna do much different from the other candidates.

Politicians are supposed to do that too. And he's better at it than them. So I vote for him.
aeroektar · 2016-01-12 02:40:00 · #6336




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Eskhander · 2016-01-12 02:55:00 · #6337
I think most of the ire over the White Knight comments is over a mistaken impression that it means we should let the guys in the above video get away with their crimes.
dasher · 2016-01-12 03:44:00 · #6338
(01-11-2016 03:05 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  Don't normally go to 4chan. Interesting take by some of them there. heh
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/60677...e-socalled

I archived the 4chan link - It'll go dead within a day or two otherwise.

https://archive.is/luHDv
Roosh · 2016-01-12 04:41:00 · #6339
(01-11-2016 05:29 PM)Orion Wrote:  I honestly believe Roosh is correct. Seeing how alt-right characters are not only picking up women who are either genuine or poser right wing from the margins, then giving them free platform to speak, then elevating their ideas and ultimately white knighting for them when they come under criticism i cannot but wonder:

Are white men doomed to lifetime of servitude to women ?

Right now there is zero difference between how the alt right sees white women and how beta males see all women. They are red pill on everything except women. This is partially my failure since my arguments and warnings did not get through to them. Because of that, it will lead to much conflict and pain for them in the years to come. Their best case scenario right now is having a white nation with women who rather not pair bond with them.
sixsix · 2016-01-12 05:10:00 · #6340
(01-12-2016 01:56 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  
(01-12-2016 01:50 AM)avantgarde Wrote:  Dude, Donald trump is a businessman foremost, he tells what u wanna hear. He ain't gonna do much different from the other candidates.

I'll take a career businessman over a career politician any day of the week, the rationale for that being the combined results of trusting career politicians with our countries for the past fifty years or so.

LOL @ avantgarde and the countless people making similar arguments: "He's a greedy businessman so he will just work in his own interest."

Politicians are like politicians, so businessmen are less like politicians than are politicians. "We shouldn't elect a businessman, because he's too much like a politician, so we should elect a politician." What the fuck is this for reasoning?

This guy is shitting on everybody, and everybody is getting fucking scared. In what playbook would it be pro-establishment to point out migrant crime, Clinton crime, corruption?

It is a lot more plausible, that Donald Trump is just a good man that cares about his country and the future of his grandchildren. He has enough money for generations. People care. We on this forum care. Politicians that need to betray and deceive to get money and power are indeed doing that. But Trump is needing those 200 million dollars in post-presidency speaking fees like other presidents. Fuck, he makes more than that by just doing business.

Let's stop with this 'maybe he is just as bad so just go for the same old shit' because nothing points to that. This man may not be elected, or may not be effective in office, but at the every least he is not the puppet of the globalist elites.
Constitution45 · 2016-01-12 05:30:00 · #6341
As someone said on here before, who will fight for an open society.

The open society can push its agenda to the point, in which appeals to people's sense of decency and 'tolerance' can be exploited. When you have media reports about women being raped on the streets, especially middle class women in completely unprovoked attacks then it becomes a lot like an act of war.

I can't see normal men even 'betas' just standing by and letting this happen. Also generally speaking, people behave like sheep, they go with the flow and the euphoria of the crowds. Of course this is hard to measure because the distance between what the media claims general opinion to be and what real public opinion actually, seems to be as large as the grand canyon.

So it is very likely that these protests and anti rape riots will continue to spread and gain popular momentum. People generally don't want to be on the losing side, and you could even see small celebrities joining in. Although this will be a lot further down the line.
sixsix · 2016-01-12 06:59:00 · #6342
(01-12-2016 05:30 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  I can't see normal men even 'betas' just standing by and letting this happen. Also generally speaking, people behave like sheep, they go with the flow and the euphoria of the crowds. Of course this is hard to measure because the distance between what the media claims general opinion to be and what real public opinion actually, seems to be as large as the grand canyon.

In fact, I would bet it is the majority of betas that will become the most dangerous when the public opinion changes and things need to be done.

It is betas that follow without questioning. That same majority that obeys orders from camp commanders in war time and social scientists in psychological research experiments, also does so currently, in our feminism-driven society.

Feminism's paradox is: women are strong and independent, but should be protected.

Beta males follow the same paradoxical script. They prostate themselves in the name of equality and being a good sensitive person, even though it's against their interest and against any sane morality. They follow it because they follow social direction. At the same time, when something happens to women, these men will jump and in risk themselves for them. So none of the benefits and all of the downsides.

When the shit hits the fan, these men will also become the blind beasts we have read about in the history books. Well, what are you gonna do.
H1N1 · 2016-01-12 07:06:00 · #6343
(01-11-2016 11:18 PM)Saga Wrote:  
(01-11-2016 10:25 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  First printing of Mein Kampf sells out instantly in Germany. May be hope for them yet.

I cannot share that particular hope, for avoiding one doom is of little use if it is accomplished by crashing into yet another. Nazism is the nationalism of the baying mob, not the patriotism of principled men. It no less a revolutionary ideology than Bolshevism, antithetical to the maintenance of past inheritance and anathema to the fortunes of future generations.

Indeed, many people seem not to realise that Nationalism grew, in a sense, out of socialism. It was the crystallization of national consciousness that played a major part in the crumbling of most of the great Empires of the 19th Century, The Austro-Hungarian in particular, perhaps. Nationalism was a natural consequence of a very basic sort of socialism, which in turn was the result of technology improving to such an extent that 'peasants' became a more skilled, and literate lower class. Once people became less focused on simply staying alive, they naturally began to take an interest in more existential ideas; Nationalism and Socialism were two sides of the same coin. It is unwise to place faith in apparent opposing extremes. As H.L Mencken suggested, 'For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong'.

There are undoubtedly positive elements of nationalism, just as to any thinker with integrity and a trace of compassion, there are positive aspects of socialism. If you rush to extremes on the basis that they provide clear anti-theses of what is most hated, you might be surprised how quickly you find yourself embodying everything you so deeply reviled in the first place.
player · 2016-01-12 07:47:00 · #6344
SwayMe · 2016-01-12 08:05:00 · #6345
Merkel admits something ?!?!?!?
Is she finally coming to her senses??!?!??!
Libertas · 2016-01-12 08:12:00 · #6346
(01-12-2016 04:41 AM)Roosh Wrote:  
(01-11-2016 05:29 PM)Orion Wrote:  I honestly believe Roosh is correct. Seeing how alt-right characters are not only picking up women who are either genuine or poser right wing from the margins, then giving them free platform to speak, then elevating their ideas and ultimately white knighting for them when they come under criticism i cannot but wonder:

Are white men doomed to lifetime of servitude to women ?

Right now there is zero difference between how the alt right sees white women and how beta males see all women. They are red pill on everything except women. This is partially my failure since my arguments and warnings did not get through to them. Because of that, it will lead to much conflict and pain for them in the years to come. Their best case scenario right now is having a white nation with women who rather not pair bond with them.

I don't think this is so much the "alt right," rather it's the 1488 WN purity fags, half of whom I would bet are shills from the SPLC and so on.

Those with more nuanced and consistent views like ramzpaul seem to get it.
nomadbrah · 2016-01-12 08:35:00 · #6347
It's just the old generation boomer 'white nationalists' who like everyone else in their generation are white knights.

Anti-feminism is a fixture among all European nationalist groups.

No one can predict the endgame here, my guess is there will be a lot of collateral damage (symbolical or actual) from the left wing and feminist circles.
Handsome Creepy Eel · 2016-01-12 08:37:00 · #6348
(01-12-2016 08:05 AM)SwayMe Wrote:  Merkel admits something ?!?!?!?
Is she finally coming to her senses??!?!??!

I think you're vastly overestimating her. She is still spinning lies in every word she says. Just look at this shit:

Angela Merkel Wrote:The Euro is directly linked to freedom of movement in Europe. Nobody should act as though you can have a common currency without being able to cross borders reasonably easily.

The German paper empire is falling apart at a rapid pace. She knows full well the enormous economic benefits Germany receives from the Eurozone and is desperately trying to equate them with freedom in general, as if we had all been feudal slaves until the euro came along.

WSJ Wrote:The relative weakness of the euro versus a hypothetical Deutschmark is an advantage for Germany. In addition to the fiscal orderliness of Germany, the currency union also includes countries like Italy, Spain, France and Greece all of which haven’t been as successful as Germany in recent years.

This weighs on the euro’s strength, which helps German exporters. As is well known, exports are a key driver of Germany’s economy. A stronger currency would almost certainly make life harder for German exporters by making products more expensive on a global market.

It is estimated that accommodative monetary policy from the ECB over the last year has added about €25 billion to Germany’s economy through the cheapening of the single currency.

Switzerland offers a glimpse of what German life might be like on its own. The small alpine nation is also a haven for investors and its currency, the franc, has strengthened considerably in recent years. It was so strong that for three-and-a-half years the country’s central bank wouldn’t let it strengthen beyond CHF1.20 to the euro. But in January the Swiss National Bank surrendered that fight and the mighty franc is now at about CHF1.05 to the euro.

And exporters aren’t happy. Swissmem, a body representing more than 1,000 of the country’s 13,000 machinery makers, said around three quarters of its member companies expect the franc’s appreciation this year to shrink profit margins by at least four percentage points. “Almost a third of them are expecting an operating loss this year,” it said in a statement.

But euro membership isn’t everything. Economic management is also important. “Countries can thrive inside or outside the euro or go down the drain inside or outside the euro depending on the domestic policies they pursue,” said Berenberg chief economist Holger Schmieding.

It has also been argued that Germany benefits from the crisis since investors have fled to the country as a haven in the midst of concern about the finances of other eurozone states, thus making it easier for Germany to balance the books.

The IfW institute in Kiel, Germany estimated in April that Germany would save €160 billion until 2030 due to lower interest rates.
johnfortunebg · 2016-01-12 08:50:00 · #6349
This is what establishment damage control looks like: Mass migration into Europe is unstoppable

This is so full of fallacies and half-truths it makes me puke.

Quote:Second, most of those who are deemed “economic migrants” never actually leave Europe. In Germany only about 30 per cent of rejected asylum seekers leave the country voluntarily or are deported.

This has nothing to do with any sort of pure physical impossibility. It has to do with lax laws, lax enforcement and left-wing internationalist capture of the relevant bureaucracies.

Quote:One possible reaction for Europe is to accept that migration from the rest of the world is inevitable — and embrace it wholeheartedly. Europe’s debt-ridden economies need an injection of youth and dynamism. Who will staff their old-age homes and building sites if not immigrants from the rest of the world?

There is no example of successful (for the host society) mass 3rd world immigration in the history of this planet. But, sure, let's bet on a horse that has lost every single race so far. Because the answer to unsustainable Ponzi schemes like pay-as-you-go pensions and endless GDP growth is not to reform them - but to practice them even more.
In Lean, there is this concept of the MVP (minimal viable product). When your MVP fails, you pivot your idea in another directions. If all those multicultural, blank slate, one-world liberals were running a start up in the form of the contemporary West, they would be bankrupt by now and no VC or angel investor would give them money ever again.

Quote:It may be possible for island nations surrounded by the Pacific Ocean, such as Japan or Australia, to maintain strict controls on immigration. It will be all but impossible for an EU that is part of a Eurasian landmass and is separated from Africa only by narrow stretches of the Mediterranean.

Why is Israel not being swamped with immigrants? Its geographic predicament is much more dire - yet it is relatively safe from illegals. This has nothing to do with geography - and everything to do with will to defend ourselves.

All in all, the stupid Gideon Rachmann paints the Western nation state (or the EU as a whole, if you wish) as so pathetic that it cannot both in principle and in practice secure its own borders. Does he even realize what the implications of such weakness are about whether we benefit from its existence or just how easy it is for us to stop practicing our allegiance to it? Surely liberals are getting more desperate (and, therefore dumber in their arguments) by now.

The most hilarious thing is that in the pro-globalist FT whose readers are notoriously left-wing in their opinions, this is happening under an article that at least partially conditions its audience on the answer (the question is 'Can Europe stop immigration?"):

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He's getting trashed in the comments also.
Libertas · 2016-01-12 08:50:00 · #6350
I wonder if Trump will ever label Germany as a currency manipulator?

Surely its undervalued currency makes it harder for American companies to compete.
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