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-GTL · 2016-01-07 19:02:00 · #6076
(01-07-2016 06:50 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  That video above is not from Cologne though. The one only in the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBKWj4ePLZU It appears even here in 2013. Maybe it has something to do with Lara Logan a few years ago, but not from Cologne at least.


Oh damn, I fell for the /pol/ propaganda/troll. Thanks for your precisions by the way !
LEMONed IScream · 2016-01-07 19:03:00 · #6077
No problem, it was surely something like that that happened in Cologne anyway, just involved more women.
syrianguy · 2016-01-07 20:35:00 · #6078
(01-07-2016 03:42 PM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  
(01-07-2016 03:15 PM)NewMeta Wrote:  
(01-07-2016 03:09 PM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  How to deflect the 'Christianity is just as worse as Islam' argument? I know too little about it.

The reformation of Christianity obviously. In it's early days yes of course it was brutal, but that is why the new testament replaced the old testament and did away with all the barbaric shit.

When people talk shit about Christianity they always make reference to stuff in the old testament and to people who practiced the religion in accordance to such.

Islam has not had any sort of reformation, it remains barbaric and teaches primitive destructive virtues.
Thanks. Can you recommend me books, websites, youtube channels/videos, ... about this subject?


The first testament is part of Christianity and contains context specific violence, a drop in the bucket compared to the Koran that issues an eternal order to fight.

If you have the time you can check this long video comparing the first testament's violence directly with the Koran:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieIn6vyg3Rc

David Wood is more than knowledgeable on the 3 main Muslims sources and quotes them directly in his debates. You can check his lengthy debates here .

You can also check wikiislam for quick points of references. What is funny is that most muslims even the arabic speaking one are completely clueless about their own teachings. Aside from a few verses that they have memorized they know little of their religion. The best way to defend christianity and the west is to attack and ridicule Islam using their own sources.
Gótico · 2016-01-08 04:11:00 · #6079
Puisque nous en sommes aux citations, en voici deux, pour conclure : « Aucun nombre de bombes atomiques ne pourra endiguer le raz de marée constitué par les millions d’êtres humains qui partiront un jour de la partie méridionale et pauvre du monde, pour faire irruption dans les espaces relativement ouverts du riche hémisphère septentrional, en quête de survie. » (Président Boumediene, mars 1974.)

Et celle-là, tirée du XXe chant de l’Apocalypse : « Le temps des mille ans s’achève. Voilà que sortent les nations qui sont aux quatre coins de la terre et qui égalent en nombre le sable de la mer. Elles partiront en expédition sur la surface de la terre, elles investiront le camp des saints et la ville bien-aimée. »

―Jean Raspail

Our “soul” continues to be disfigured and some are led to believe the gentleman quoted above was indeed―and most unfortunately, one must add―correct; the old guard thus falls to the rampant xenophilia and oikophobia Scruton described as the “repudiation of inheritance and home”. I must confess, however, that I am not nearly as pessimistic as others here. We live in very interesting times; let us see how it all unfolds. I propose we have a news-briefing:― Later on in the day I hope to publish a few translated or partially translated articles from the non-English media; I have found them to be much more sincere in their ways. They also seem to pay closer attention to the details we care about.
Byzantium · 2016-01-08 04:27:00 · #6080
(01-07-2016 08:35 PM)syrianguy Wrote:  What is funny is that most muslims even the arabic speaking one are completely clueless about their own teachings. Aside from a few verses that they have memorized they know little of their religion. The best way to defend christianity and the west is to attack and ridicule Islam using their own sources.

The Muslim cleric says, "Among the companions of the Prophet they used not even to look at a man who shaved his beard, for fear they would have desire for him."

*laughter from audience*

Muslim cleric looks briefly confused and angry and quickly presses on.

https://youtu.be/BMqq2cX8PrY?t=52
Lucky · 2016-01-08 04:38:00 · #6081
Just read this in Spiegel Online:

Quote:An identification - in particular the perpetrators of sexual assaults - "unfortunately, was no longer possible" - because: "The task forces were not all events, assaults, crimes, etc. Lord, but there were just too many at the same time." We have not been able to help every victim, which the police had frustrated. At times, it was not possible to include criminal charges.

The report lists several examples of concrete experiences of policemen on:

-Officials were therefore prevented by close people rings from advancing to help caller

-A man is quoted as saying: "I am Syrian, you have to treat me kindly Mrs. Merkel has invited me."

-Witnesses were threatened when they named perpetrators.

-People torn according to the report in front of the police residence permit, grinned and said: ". You can send me anything, go get a new tomorrow" Whether they were genuine documents and what kind of documents, it is not apparent from the report.

-Granted restraining orders have been ignored; To take repeat offenders in custody, due to lack of capacity was not possible.

-After track closures due to overcrowding people had just walked on the side track and then on the rails back to the suspended platform.

-When boarding trains there were physical fights, it was the "law of the jungle".
Wreckingball · 2016-01-08 05:51:00 · #6082
(01-07-2016 02:22 PM)sixsix Wrote:  Some light in the darkness.

Also during NYE. At the main square of Amsterdam we see our beloved agents of cultural enrichment celebrate the beginning of a new year by enjoying their homemade fireworks. I did not know we already had so many of them here, all men, all looking like examples of civility and impulse control.

And You Won't Believe What Happened Next!





Thumbs up.

If he could, he would.
Parzival · 2016-01-08 07:23:00 · #6083
I made a map, because today there had been new reports from different cities. More and more women now go to the police and dare to speak up.

   

In the meanwhile there is a strong downplay going on in the very left wing media. Like those attacks are not serious, we have to be more tolerant. But they found even papers with translations by the offenders:

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/a...dabei.html

Quote:Die Kölner Polizei konnte laut Berichten nach den Silvester-Übergriffen zwei Verdächtige festnehmen. Die Männer hatten verdächtige Videos auf ihren Handys - und einen Sex-Spickzettel dabei.

   

I like to fuck
I will kill you
Nice boobs
...
LEMONed IScream · 2016-01-08 08:52:00 · #6084




And this is the kind of leftist scourge one has to deal with. Why is this man still alive after saying this?
Snurby · 2016-01-08 09:42:00 · #6085
“I’m a Syrian! You have to treat me kindly! Mrs. Merkel invited me.”

LOL

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/cologn...sex-attack
Gringuito · 2016-01-08 09:44:00 · #6086
It's amazing to me how powerfully people can be manipulated via social media and "goodperson" personification. The current situation is that for a person to view themselves as "goodperson" they must support migrants from predominately Islamic countries. If you’re on social media, there is an enormous pressure to conform to the group opinion, even if it goes directly against your interests.

If you talk to people in Europe (I was recently in Germany before NYE) privately they will say how concerned they are about immigration. But most of them are more terrified of being criticized by not being with Merkel than inviting migrants to their town.

The pro-migrants are the same people that virtue-signal the most. (SJW/Feminist/Progressive/LBGTZTYDYT/etc) Strangely, these are the same people that will lose the most when the multiculturalism of the migrants (it’s a two-way street) changes the European culture. It seems that these were loosely coordinated attacks designed to start integrating the culture of North Africa/Middle East into Europe. Even now women are afraid to be out alone and SJW/feminists/politicians are telling women to tone it down in public and making excuses for the aggressors. The media first didn’t report on these inconvenient truths and the women themselves were reluctant to report the crimes because of “goodperson” pressure. But social media caused the truth to get out. Now the push is to reduce free speech further and not allow any hate speech on social media. Hate speech is defined as anything that goes against the pro-migrant opinion. When something like this happens again, it will be less likely to be reported on newly-censored social media outlets.

It almost seems like a social experiment to see how malleable people can be made. If you can convince a blue haired radical feminist to defend rape culture, you can do just about anything.
Orson · 2016-01-08 09:49:00 · #6087
(01-07-2016 03:15 PM)NewMeta Wrote:  
(01-07-2016 03:09 PM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  How to deflect the 'Christianity is just as worse as Islam' argument? I know too little about it.

The reformation of Christianity obviously. In it's early days yes of course it was brutal, but that is why the new testament replaced the old testament and did away with all the barbaric shit.

When people talk shit about Christianity they always make reference to stuff in the old testament and to people who practiced the religion in accordance to such.

Islam has not had any sort of reformation, it remains barbaric and teaches primitive destructive virtues.

ACTUALLY, no... This is a common error. In fact, what Islam lacks is an Enlightenment, which in the West was preceded by the toleration of the Peace of Westphalia (1648), when the Nation-state system was well-grounded.

Islam has been 'reformed' several times, as in the Protestant Reformation which advocated returning to a purer vision of Christianity by bypassing the later corruption of the Church (eg, institutionalized selling indulgences to the rich, to escape the torments in Hell for sins committed on here on earth) and reverting to the original scriptural sources. Hence, Luther and the Protestants emphasized spreading literacy to read the New Testament (cf, America's many old colleges, all founded to train ministers) - something seen as too dangerous by our betters before the Wars of Religion and that bloodletting (because 10s of millions died) sorting this out.

For example, Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia was one such effort within Islam, a couple centuries ago. And for Salafists (strict orthodox Muslims, which are bing called 'Radical Islam' today), who revive 13th century thought of Ibn Taymiyyah.

Taymiyyah began giving sermons on Jihad during the Mongol invasions. He argued that Jihad was an equal duty with the Five Pillars, to rouse the faithful to defend themselves against these invaders. He advocated emulating the times and thinking of Muhammad himself to achieve this. And his thought resulted in a Jihad into Anatolia, from which the Janissaries (hardcore soldiers for Allah) and the future (Islamic) Ottoman Empire in Turkey grew.

Thus, because of the content of Islam and the militant character of Muhammad, 'reformation' does not mean becoming more faithful to a devoted, otherworldly, God-centered mysticism like in Christianity. Instead, it means reviving militancy, zealous demands of Islamic Supremacy, duty for Jihad, and religious intolerance. Sound familiar? It should! Because this is exactly the same sort of Muslim 'reformation' that now inspires terrorism today.

What Islam lacks is a tradition of toleration which Christianity almost uniquely possesses, because faith is not to arrived at by compulsion but by persuasion and inner conviction. The former resists the development of self-consciousness and thereby the strength of character we take for granted as individualism, which is an outgrowth of Protestantism.

It took Christianity about 200 years to fight out the Protestant Reformation to an end, and Europe wound up with Catholic/Protestant boundaries rather close to earlier times (but late in Luther's time):

[Image: religions-of-europe-broadly-speaking1.gif]

(ABOVE-Europe, a simplified map after the Wars of Religion.)

The Peace of Westphalia decided that the State religion would follow that of the sovereign (or Monarch), but that toleration - instead of death or extirpation - would be granted to those who dissented from the Monarch's religion.

In reality, managing the 'Peace' was not a simple matter, as the following map indicates:

[Image: the-protestant-reformation-28-728.jpg?cb=1331849375]

But the Great Principle of toleration meant that competing rulers would stop invading neighbors to defend other's sectarian interests. That was the 'spiraling out of control' way it usually went before, which deeply disturbed Luther.

Peaceful toleration - this is the state that Islam has not reached since the death of Muhammud in the 7th century. As today's Sunna/Shia split indicates, Muslims are still fighting over the legitimacy of succession to rule, within a unitary and religious conception of Right Rule.

Indeed, with the ongoing Saudi/Iranian wars by proxy in Yemen and Syria, the split has reached a new stage of intensification of the ancient, unresolved conflict - instead of any "enlightened' or tolerant resolution...and it is soon to become a nuclear-armed conflict.
Fast Eddie · 2016-01-08 10:03:00 · #6088
(01-08-2016 09:44 AM)Gringuito Wrote:  ...snip

It almost seems like a social experiment to see how malleable people can be made. If you can convince a blue haired radical feminist to defend rape culture, you can do just about anything.

It would seem so at face value, but you have to remember that feminism is at the root level engineered to do the same exact thing as all the other evils stalking our societies: attack white men. That is the goal, the ideological framework of the feminist movement is just the particulars. And raping the white man's women is about as direct of an attack on the white man as you can get, which is why it is met with silence in public and likely gloating in private among the driving forces of the feminist movement. You saw the same exact thing during the college rape hysteria, where rape hoaxes featuring white male rapists were conjured whole cloth out of thin air while quite numerous and very real rapes by blacks were completely buried.

If the goal of feminists was to protect women rather than attack white men, you would see feminists leaving white men alone and going after the groups who are actually responsible for violent rape. That you don't see this happening is pretty damn solid empirical evidence that feminism as a movement is defined not by being pro-women, but by being anti-white men.
The Beast1 · 2016-01-08 10:09:00 · #6089
(01-07-2016 03:09 PM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  How to deflect the 'Christianity is just as worse as Islam' argument? I know too little about it.

A lot of people, including most Christians fail to notice that the old testament is a prophecy. The stuff in there about Sodom and Gomorra as well as the other violent stuff do not pertain at all to how Christians should live. The old testament is organized in a way to show readers that Jesus was predicted to come and includes all of the old teachings and behaviors that God's first covenant with his people were.

The new Testament has Jesus giving you one and only one commandment. That commandment is the golden rule which is to love others as you love yourself.

That is all you have to do. You don't have to not eat pork, you don't have to kill anyone. You don't need to pray 5 times a day towards an arbitrary point on the globe. You can kill your food however you see fit. Paul's teachings towards the end of the bible are recommendations on how to employ Jesus' law most effectively in your life.

Contrast that with Islam which openly advocates for the killing of nonbelievers, there isn't much left to say.
Gringuito · 2016-01-08 10:16:00 · #6090
(01-08-2016 10:03 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  It would seem so at face value, but you have to remember that feminism is at the root level engineered to do the same exact thing as all the other evils stalking our societies: attack white men. That is the goal, the ideological framework of the feminist movement is just the particulars. And raping the white man's women is about as direct of an attack on the white man as you can get, which is why it is met with silence in public and likely gloating in private among the driving forces of the feminist movement.

If this is correct, then what is the endgame? Assume the world becomes Arab/African and that Europe becomes Islamic. Those regions don't seem to encourage wealth development or stability. They don't even seem to allow for easier control of people.

Perhaps it's an attack on their native men due to, as a group, us failing so many shit tests and giving into them so much and so often they have no longer respect us. Thus they're searching for a replacement that will be dominant (i.e. migrants). It would explain how women defend the migrants while at the same time attack the native men of their countries/continent.
AManLikePutin · 2016-01-08 10:24:00 · #6091
For us very predictable, yet still totally fascinating how the so called Liberal / Feminist / heart-felt / Humanitarian facebook friends are fucking RADIO SILENT about the Cologne incident.

Not one mention. You'd never hear the end of it if a group of White German stormed the streets in Riyadh on day of some sort of Eid and touched an Arab woaman or the same Koln stuff happened by a group of Frat boys, it'd be fucking stickied on all media headlines, HuffPo will have it Tweet-Pinned for months.

You know, sometimes I think maybe there is more to Islam than we see. There seems to be a genius to it How it manages to escape all of those situations and make itself the VICTIM. It's absolutely fascinating. It's like Kramer of religions. Somehow, all things just fall in place for it, no matter how stupid it acts.

[Image: merkel.jpg]
Orson · 2016-01-08 10:24:00 · #6092
(01-08-2016 09:44 AM)Gringuito Wrote:  It's amazing to me how powerfully people can be manipulated via social media and "goodperson" personification. The current situation is that for a person to view themselves as "goodperson" they must support migrants from predominately Islamic countries. If you’re on social media, there is an enormous pressure to conform to the group opinion, even if it goes directly against your interests.

If you talk to people in Europe (I was recently in Germany before NYE) privately they will say how concerned they are about immigration. But most of them are more terrified of being criticized by not being with Merkel than inviting migrants to their town.

The pro-migrants are the same people that virtue-signal the most. (SJW/Feminist/Progressive/LBGTZTYDYT/etc) Strangely, these are the same people that will lose the most when the multiculturalism of the migrants (it’s a two-way street) changes the European culture. It seems that these were loosely coordinated attacks designed to start integrating the culture of North Africa/Middle East into Europe. Even now women are afraid to be out alone and SJW/feminists/politicians are telling women to tone it down in public and making excuses for the aggressors. The media first didn’t report on these inconvenient truths and the women themselves were reluctant to report the crimes because of “goodperson” pressure. But social media caused the truth to get out. Now the push is to reduce free speech further and not allow any hate speech on social media. Hate speech is defined as anything that goes against the pro-migrant opinion. When something like this happens again, it will be less likely to be reported on newly-censored social media outlets.

It almost seems like a social experiment to see how malleable people can be made. If you can convince a blue haired radical feminist to defend rape culture, you can do just about anything.

Yes, indeed this is happening. And it has been happening before - especially in Sweden, where this process of Islamification of the West has been most advanced.

In the US, the Gatestone Institute has been covering the transformation closely, most often by simply translating articles from their foreign source.

For example:

Quote:Sweden is a country where using the word "mass immigration" usually gets criticized just for sounding racist. Only anti-Semitism does not get criticized. In Sweden, all other forms of racism -- even things that some say could be classified as racism -- are criticized, and ruthlessly.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7163/s...tisemitism

Fortunately, they also put their website content into many other languages, to further wide dispersal.

Another website providing daily content about the Islamization of Europe is The Gates of Vienna, which hearkens back the turning away of the Ottoman Turks in 1683 - the end of Islam's challenge to the West by land. (There was a separate series of sea battles, but the siege of Malta is the single best remembered one.)

We forget much, in the west. The Truth is that Islam has been our most ferocious and prolonged source of war and enslavement, conquest and resistance.

Just consider the time span between Charles Martel's led victory at the Battle of Tours in 732, until Vienna in 1683. That's 951 years. Almost 1,000 years.

Why was the date of 9/11 chosen in 2001 to attack New York City and Washington, DC? Islamic terrorists...

Quote:...comprehend that Islam and Western Culture have been locked in mortal confrontation for approximately 1,400 years with a brief interlude that has caused Western culture to forget what is at stake and what is at risk.

Part of the motivation of Islamic terrorists is to reverse the trend of decline in the Islamic world relative to Western culture that many trace as far back to September 11, 1683 when a large Turkish army was humiliatingly crushed by Europeans at the Battle of Vienna.
http://www.islam-watch.org/Stunich/Why-9...ber-11.htm

It's always about asserting superiority and supremacy of their Bedouin-based religion. And DEMANDING that you accept it, humiliating and debasing yourself before Allah. NEVER let them succeed!
Fast Eddie · 2016-01-08 10:31:00 · #6093
(01-08-2016 10:16 AM)Gringuito Wrote:  
(01-08-2016 10:03 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  It would seem so at face value, but you have to remember that feminism is at the root level engineered to do the same exact thing as all the other evils stalking our societies: attack white men. That is the goal, the ideological framework of the feminist movement is just the particulars. And raping the white man's women is about as direct of an attack on the white man as you can get, which is why it is met with silence in public and likely gloating in private among the driving forces of the feminist movement.

If this is correct, then what is the endgame? Assume the world becomes Arab/African and that Europe becomes Islamic. Those regions don't seem to encourage wealth development or stability. They don't even seem to allow for easier control of people.

Perhaps it's an attack on their native men due to, as a group, us failing so many shit tests and giving into them so much and so often they have no longer respect us. Thus they're searching for a replacement that will be dominant (i.e. migrants). It would explain how women defend the migrants while at the same time attack the native men of their countries/continent.

I think you overestimate the extent to which women actually have agency to change society. I don't want to write thousands of words detailing the specifics as I see them, so I'll just limit myself to saying that women are just along for the ride and are simply conforming to expectations set by people who can be better categorized by their elite status and positions of influence than by gender.

As to why, I don't think anyone has a completely accurate idea at this point, but a safe estimate is that the answer involves elements of both the search for absolute power, and malice. It's not so much that the diverse are easier to control, but that a population that is "diverse" is helpless to organize against those in power and is easy prey to tactics of divide and conquer.
Orson · 2016-01-08 10:50:00 · #6094
(01-08-2016 08:52 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  



And this is the kind of leftist scourge one has to deal with. Why is this man still alive after saying this?

Why indeed?

Because the Left dominates among the ruling class in Germany.

Does Europe Have a Future? is the salient question. Daniel Johnson lays out the parameters of an answer at the online journal, Mosaic.

Quote:Europeans are now faced with questions they have hitherto preferred to dodge. Are Europeans ready to fight for Europe? What is the place of Islam in a post-Christian Europe? Or, to look at it from the jihadist point of view, what is the place of Europe in a fast-expanding and globalized Islam? Is 21st-century Europe still the heart of Western civilization, or is it changing out of all recognition?

However one answers those questions, a brave new world seems to be emerging in which Europe becomes the theater where the clash of civilizations is played out. So far, the signs are that this encounter will be no more peaceful than it has been in the Middle East.

This we pretty much know, here. Johnson goes on with useful detail, answering why this deep, suffocating miasma to extinguish the nation-state and with it nationalism exists in Europe:

Quote:For, to many of today’s Europeans, nationalism is their continent’s original sin. (Their American counterparts say the same thing about their own country.) According to the most sacred tenets of the secular religion of Europe, nationalism today is what for John Milton in Paradise Lost was “the Fruit of that Forbidden Tree whose mortal taste brought Death into the World, and all our woe.” A cluster of large-scale histories of Europe have appeared in recent years by such distinguished authors as Konrad Jarausch, Brendan Simms, Heinrich August Winkler, and Ian Kershaw. All of them accept without question the postwar consensus that, first, the European catastrophes of the last century were caused primarily by the nationalist disease—to which, second, the only antidote is pan-European unity, fostered through centralized institutions created with that explicit aim.

Yet both of these propositions are demonstrably false. Fascism, National Socialism, and Communism were all supra-national ideologies, even global ideologies. Lenin and Stalin saw the class war as transcending boundaries of state or nation, just as Hitler thought race a much more fundamental factor than nation.

Nor has pan-European ideology proved successful in preventing the reemergence of extreme nationalist ideologies of left and right; to the contrary, the imposition of that ideology on the Europe of nations has provoked that reemergence.

And the same goes for the reemergence of anti-Semitism, on the rise not only in the so-called New Europe to the East but also in the supposedly “cured” countries of Western Europe. According to a recent study by the University of Bielefeld, around 40 percent of people in most European countries believe that Israel is conducting a “war of extermination” [sic!] against the Palestinians; in Germany, of all places, the figure rises to 48 percent. As many as 70 percent of Hungarians, 50 percent of Poles, and 20 percent of Germans also agree with the statement that Jews have too much influence.

Johnson mentions the pushback against Islamization by the gay academic in the Netherlands, Pim Fortuyn, then running for parliment, when he was assasinated in 2002: "In confessing to the crime, the killer claimed to have been defending Muslims from persecution and likened Fortuyn to Hitler. Released on parole last year, he has never expressed remorse for his crime." Ah! So all is forgiven by the self-abasing selfless schmoo, like the "Good German" academic in the video, ABOVE!

Allow me to quote at length from Johnson's long essay, as he moves to subject to parallels in Germany:

Quote:In Germany, the Social Democratic politician and writer Thilo Sarrazin achieved similar notoriety merely for publishing a politically incorrect book, Deutschland schafft sich ab (“Germany Abolishes Itself”), a 2010 bestseller that led to his dismissal from the board of the German central bank and to the curtailing of his political career. Five years later, many Germans now see his dire predictions being fulfilled in the open-door policy of Angela Merkel.
_ _ _

Between 2001 and 2011, census figures show an exponential growth in the proportion of Muslims in some British cities: in Manchester, for example, by as much as 122 percent. The growth is even more dramatic when we consider the youngest cohort: in 2011, 35 percent of children under fifteen in Birmingham, the UK’s second- largest city, were Muslim, and that figure can be assumed to have risen much higher since then.

In brief, the “Islamization of Europe” is not a myth or a figment peddled by the far right but will soon become a reality in many European cities. It is against this background that the present migration crisis takes on an ominous significance. Just as the practice of European Christianity seems to be falling off a demographic and spiritual cliff, Islam is advancing by leaps and bounds. It is not only a matter of mass migration and high birthrates; increasingly it will also be a matter of mass cultural, religious, and political influence.

Should Europeans acquiesce in this Islamization of their continent? Or should they rather be attempting something far more ambitious and therefore much riskier—namely, the Europeanization of Islam?
_ _ _

The theology, the legal system, the political theory of Islam have remained largely immune to Western influences thus far. It remains for the majority of European Muslims to make up their minds to be the vanguard of an Islamic enlightenment that might just happen. That would mean an Islam minus jihad, minus elements of shariah, minus polygamy; an Islam that treated women not as chattel but as the equals of men; that no longer turned a blind eye to forced marriage, genital mutilation, and slavery; that rejected the politics of Islamism and accepted the separation of mosque and state; that was no longer all about submission but also about freedom. Such an Islam already exists and is practiced by millions of adherents to some of its traditions, particularly the Sufi, Ahmadiyya, and Ismaili. But religious authorities of the two main traditions, the Sunni and Shiite, not to mention the more stringent teaching of the Wahhabi and the Salafi, by and large reject such ideas as incompatible with Islam itself.

An Islamic reformation, renaissance, and enlightenment won’t happen in Europe, let alone in the Muslim heartlands, if Europe continues to abandon belief in its own identity.


The collapse of civilizational morale analyzed by such thinkers as George Weigel, Christopher Caldwell, Alain Finkielkraut, and others does not exactly make Europe an attractive role model.

Islamists promote their intolerant, triumphalist, aggressive interpretation of Islam in part by contrasting it with European decadence. Faced with such a choice, is it any surprise that many young Muslims become Islamists and more than a few of them jihadists?

If, as is now inevitable, Muslims are to make up a large and growing proportion of the population of Europe, the latter’s survival as we know it will depend on whether the Europeanization of Islam takes place before the Islamization of Europe. It is a race against time.
http://mosaicmagazine.com/essay/2016/01/...-a-future/

For those of us who wish to stay in Europe - for us who wish to keep the West alive and progressing - for those who cannot surrender our rights and liberties to live and breath in a polity of toleration, this "race against time must be won."

And the academic above, mounting the spurious, old battle against Nazism 70 years later, is the enemy at large, because his type represents the ruling class and the lugen presse (lying media), who are aiding and abetting the denial of reality: Islamification? Nein, danke!
nomadbrah · 2016-01-08 11:00:00 · #6095
(01-07-2016 02:45 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  I wonder if these muzzies have ever really drank before. Kind of like your first year of college, you're so excited by the booze and hot pussy you go wild, which for them is another level of assaults and whatnot. Many of them are discovering the fun of drinking which just encourages them more. Mobs of drunk, aggressive, violent, and horny muslims would almost be entertaining to watch the destruction if it weren't so sad.

(01-07-2016 02:52 PM)Parzival Wrote:  Arabs are weak, that's why their god forbid them the alcohol. They also just attack in groups and call it honour.

(01-08-2016 08:52 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  



And this is the kind of leftist scourge one has to deal with. Why is this man still alive after saying this?

Ach so der Nase!
Samseau · 2016-01-08 11:05:00 · #6096
(01-08-2016 10:09 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  
(01-07-2016 03:09 PM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  How to deflect the 'Christianity is just as worse as Islam' argument? I know too little about it.

The new Testament has Jesus giving you one and only one commandment. That commandment is the golden rule which is to love others as you love yourself.

No, that's not what Jesus said and you're repeating progressive lies that turn people away from Christ. Jesus was NOT a peace-loving hippy. Quite the contrary.

First of all, Jesus gave TWO commandments:

Mark 12:30-31

Quote:30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[a]
31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”

Notice, the word is not love "others" but neighbor, which has a extremely specific connotation and is made clear during the story of the good Samaritan. The Pharisee who passes by the man bleeding out is not a neighbor. Nor is the nobleman. But the Samaritan, who was basically equivalent to a Black man during America's slave era, clothed and dressed his wounds, paid for his stay at an inn, and came back later to check up on him. "Who is the neighbor?" Jesus asks. "The Samaritan," the student answers.

Therefore, you are NOT required to love those who are not your neighbor. Now, I know you may be confused: Didn't Jesus say to love thy enemy as well? He did, but he meant it in a specific context. The enemy is still your enemy, but the wise Christian must remember those who are good and evil are often made so by circumstances ("God sends the rain on the righteous and unrighteous, the sun on the just and unjust") and can still be saved with the right medicine; however one does not cast pearls before swine to save such enemies. Kill some or many of them if necessary first and make them respect you first before trying to convert.

HENCE,

Matt 10:34

Quote:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

40 He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

And Jesus' prophecy came to pass, as the arrival of Jesus divided Jewish families across the land, with one group calling themselves Christians and the others calling themselves Talmudic Jews. These two groups of Jews stopped talking to each other; the Christians went on to build great civilizations out of the barbarians of the world, while the Talmudic Jews went on to destroy them. And it has been this way ever since.
Orson · 2016-01-08 11:09:00 · #6097
(01-08-2016 07:23 AM)Parzival Wrote:  I made a map, because today there had been new reports from different cities. More and more women now go to the police and dare to speak up.



In the meanwhile there is a strong downplay going on in the very left wing media. Like those attacks are not serious, we have to be more tolerant....
...

THANK YOU!

But more loosely coordinated mayhem has been identified. Attacks also went on in Zurich, Amsterdam and Stockholm....

The evils of the invaders MUST BE CONFRONTED, if European values of tolerance are to survive these dark times.
Orson · 2016-01-08 11:13:00 · #6098
(01-07-2016 09:20 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  I'd say the creation of a Europe-wide "Resistance" movement, with several chapters across Europe, might not be that far. Such organizations could probably also cruise certain public events and act as a deterrent for these fuckers. Kicking their asses, if needed. Violence is the only language they understand.


YES, yes - indeed YES!

And it would work in countries like Hungary.

Unfortuntely, this gets label "neo-Nazi" in Germany - anything that's organized to be a civilian self-help effort to police in public gets labeled that - much as the 'Minute Men' to the Southern borders of the US got tarred with that, over the immigration debates in the US.

But that's the latter part of your statement. What about the first part?

"I'd say the creation of a Europe-wide 'Resistance' movement, with several chapters across Europe, might not be that far." Indeed, it's already happening. PEGIDA - the Dresden based "People Against the Islamization of Europe" - has started a chapter in Britain, earlier this week: "PEGIDA launches in Britain with vow to fight 'Islamification of the West' "
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/6...y-Robinson
Libertas · 2016-01-08 11:44:00 · #6099
(01-08-2016 10:50 AM)Orson Wrote:  http://mosaicmagazine.com/essay/2016/01/...-a-future/

For those of us who wish to stay in Europe - for us who wish to keep the West alive and progressing - for those who cannot surrender our rights and liberties to live and breath in a polity of toleration, this "race against time must be won."

And the academic above, mounting the spurious, old battle against Nazism 70 years later, is the enemy at large, because his type represents the ruling class and the lugen presse (lying media), who are aiding and abetting the denial of reality: Islamification? Nein, danke!

I think the point that this guy misses is that there cannot be any Reformation or Enlightenment of Islam in ways we would find desirable, because its central figure, its embodiment of the perfect Muslim life, was a pedophilic warlord.

There can be no "Europeanization of Islam." Islam has no place in Western civilization. Either one or the other must succumb.

I've been suggesting the creation of a cell-like Western resistance movement for a while now, along the lines of the Templars and Hospitallers. Let's see how Roosh's tribal meetups go. That might be the genesis to form something.
RexImperator · 2016-01-08 11:54:00 · #6100
(01-07-2016 05:15 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  There was some coverage of the assaults in Köln on the BBC world service today. There was an admission that most of the migrants were men, as a female commentator discussed the implications for further skewing the gender ratios in Germany. However she claimed that it didn't matter where the men were from. tard

Here's some more detail on that from the Daily Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...le-3389727

The commentator was Valerie Hudson, a professor at Texas A&M.

Quote:Vast number of teenage boys entering Europe is creating gender imbalance

Academic studies show the 'higher the sex ratio, the worse the crime rate'

Swedish government statistic show 71% of asylum applicants were male

Among unaccompanied minors there was a ratio of 11.3 boys for each girl

EU warned the flow of migrants entering Europe continues at same rate

Valerie Hudson, a professor at Texas A&M University, said numerous academic studies have shown that ‘the higher the sex ratio, the worse the crime rate’.

‘Our research also found a link between sex ratios and the emergence of both violent criminal gangs and anti-government movements,' she wrote in an article published on US website Politico. ‘It makes sense. When young adult males fail to make the transition to starting a household – particularly those young males who are already at risk for sociopathic behaviour due to marginalisation, a common concern among immigrants – their grievances are aggravated.
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