I've been going to a lot of those asian massage places the last few years where you get a 1 hr massage for $20 which is insanely cheap compared to most and now I just found one in my area where it is $15 for one hour. They are usually located in older strip malls and no one can really speak english.
I'm guessing everyone working there must be illegals because the minimum wage in my state is around $10 a hour so there is no way they can be flipping a profit paying them minimum wage and only charging $15 an hour.
I'm just curious how these places stay in business? I see tons of them around and I have been going to the same one for the past 2 or 3 years and it's still in business.
I'm in the U.S. and as far as I can tell these are all strictly massage places and I have never been propositioned for anything more.
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01-03-2016 04:22 AM
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Not for sex, cheap massages and they do other stuff too like foot rubs, scalp massage, quick shoulder/neck massages, etc
there are 3 levels:
1) legit - just a cheap massage, not out of this world but not terrible either.
2) semi legit - some girls go for extras, most don't
3) backpage shit - the massage is just a cover for fucking, the girls all know what the deal is
you can spot #3s based on their location (warehousing districts, strip clubs, strip clubs, and sex toy shops are usually near by) and they will have a certain look to them
-frosted or covered windows for privacy
-lots of neon lights
-they don't just hire asian girls
-the girls are dressed slutty
In all 3 categories it's basically Chinese immigrants setting up shop as a way to get their relatives in the country, the pay is low because usually they live with their dad, uncle, brother, grandpa, 4th cousin, etc and have low expenses.
Whelp. Was no surprise where this thread was going...
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01-03-2016 05:27 AM
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For the $20/ $15 price point you are a in large room with 12 different beds/massage chairs so NO funny business goes down because you are surrounded by a bunch of other people.
I don't see how they can be making money unless they are paying their employees less than minimum wage and I would think they would eventually get caught up but this place has been open for years.
01-03-2016 11:07 AM
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(01-03-2016 11:07 AM)Teddykgb Wrote: The ones I go to seem totally legit though.
For the $20/ $15 price point you are a in large room with 12 different beds/massage chairs so NO funny business goes down because you are surrounded by a bunch of other people.
I don't see how they can be making money unless they are paying their employees less than minimum wage and I would think they would eventually get caught up but this place has been open for years.
Well... From what I gather, the house gets the fee and the masseuse keeps the tips. How much they want to do for tips is up to them and behind closed doors.
I just so happen to work with a former massage therapist. She would often have guys wanting something extra and she says she would say no and then ask them to leave. I dont buy her story. She is weird and is more than likely trying to avoid slut shaming for making good coin. She is also calling the cops on the local rub and tug trying to get them investigated and shut down. The cops ignore her.
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(01-03-2016 11:07 AM)Teddykgb Wrote: The ones I go to seem totally legit though.
For the $20/ $15 price point you are a in large room with 12 different beds/massage chairs so NO funny business goes down because you are surrounded by a bunch of other people.
I don't see how they can be making money unless they are paying their employees less than minimum wage and I would think they would eventually get caught up but this place has been open for years.
Your hunch is right. They almost definitely pay the employees less than minimum wage/pocket their tips/etc. The only way places get caught is when an employee reports it to the government. This risk is mitigated if you only hire people who will suffer harm from reporting you, e.g. illegals, people who need the job for their immigration status, etc. I used to wonder how Asians can be illegal immigrants (you can't bloody well swim the Pacific) until someone reminded me that illegal immigration includes overstaying a visa.
btz Wrote:In all 3 categories it's basically Chinese immigrants setting up shop as a way to get their relatives in the country, the pay is low because usually they live with their dad, uncle, brother, grandpa, 4th cousin, etc and have low expenses.
The house keeps the fees, they divide up the tips among the staff.
Some of these people have dirt cheap living expenses, and don't spend over $500 a month on rent, bills, and food.
Many can work that type of work and still afford flights back home to visit family and go shopping.
They probably still have a back room, would not doubt if the girls live upstairs in the shop. Many use the business front to bring in more migrants. In Canada at least there is a loophole for business owners to fast track immigration.
01-03-2016 11:49 PM
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(01-03-2016 05:38 AM)eradicator Wrote: dude, that isn't porn
lol Yeah, I didn't think it was. Just meant when I saw the thread titled "Asian Massage" I knew we'd really be having a discussion about happy endings.
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01-04-2016 03:48 AM
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"Asian massages" get busted regularly around here by 'police sting operations'....best job ever?
Being the south, I suspect that the operations that get busted either aren't paying their protection fee or aren't giving cops freebies. Pay for police is very low down here, which is also why I suspect that corruption stories are common.
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01-04-2016 08:31 AM
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There may also be a money laundering aspect to these 'businesses' as well.
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On the low, I've been going to these for a year and a half now. Doing a deadly triad of Bodybuilding, Pro-Wrestling and Kungfu; my metaphorical buttcheeks ache whenever I'm finished training in any. Asian Chicks have forever been supreme punani in my book so there aren't any downsides to the 'hobby'; except for being led out in cuffs with an unsatisfied dingaling.
There are hundreds around NYC so I switch up in accordance with my wallet's weight. The entrances are straight-up baffling, they're in places you walk by on the daily, but you won't be able to find them without texting the spa. Usually it's the mama-san who answers; she'll range from lookin' like Bilbo Baggins, to a vague resemblance of the Crypt-Keeper. Never seen one as dolled up as the girls.
Usually, Bilbo will take one look at you and find a fitting womanlet. Though I was once graced with a line-up at a pricey ass joint. Age-wise, they're either young or their old, there is no in-between with Asian women. I pick the ones who still can't cut 5'3 in their high heels, and who I reckon have the thickest accents. The short ones are the most playful, and if they only speak Broken English, it's delightful when they whisper 'the question'.
I blame Rush Hour 2; went through my entire childhood wondering if places like 'Heaven on Earth' were real. Damn sure is, son.
(05-02-2017 02:13 PM)Lordless Wrote: On the low, I've been going to these for a year and a half now. Doing a deadly triad of Bodybuilding, Pro-Wrestling and Kungfu; my metaphorical buttcheeks ache whenever I'm finished training in any. Asian Chicks have forever been supreme punani in my book so there aren't any downsides to the 'hobby'; except for being led out in cuffs with an unsatisfied dingaling.
There are hundreds around NYC so I switch up in accordance with my wallet's weight. The entrances are straight-up baffling, they're in places you walk by on the daily, but you won't be able to find them without texting the spa. Usually it's the mama-san who answers; she'll range from lookin' like Bilbo Baggins, to a vague resemblance of the Crypt-Keeper. Never seen one as dolled up as the girls.
Usually, Bilbo will take one look at you and find a fitting womanlet. Though I was once graced with a line-up at a pricey ass joint. Age-wise, they're either young or their old, there is no in-between with Asian women. I pick the ones who still can't cut 5'3 in their high heels, and who I reckon have the thickest accents. The short ones are the most playful, and if they only speak Broken English, it's delightful when they whisper 'the question'.
I blame Rush Hour 2; went through my entire childhood wondering if places like 'Heaven on Earth' were real. Damn sure is, son.
I live in NYC. Where can I find these locales? Is there a website?
05-02-2017 03:52 PM
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(05-02-2017 03:52 PM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote: I live in NYC. Where can I find these locales? Is there a website?
Rubmaps is the best site, no question. AAMP was linked earlier in this thread, but those are escorts who do incall/outcall type shit. I have rules about bringing Thots within my living spaces. That rubmaps link will take you to the NYC section, you can navigate on the side by neighborhood.
Manhattan has a shit ton. But Flushing is of course, the hotspot for these places, especially cheaper ones; which may or may not reflect upon how quality the 'service' is. They have to compete with mothafuckas on the same damn block after all. If you want some good spots, PM me; can point a few good ones as well as the absolute best(in my opinion) or worse. Would advise learning the etiquette of everything first though. If I had known some beforehand, I would've avoided a folly in my first go.
On the very first time, a MILF did me the service, but overcharged my ass. Realistically you'd pass $150 max for the handy/blowy. Up to $200 depending on the fee you paid on entry, for everything under the sun.
I give a date the stink eye and shut it down when she goes to order a dessert at the end of a meal, yet some guys are out there dropping two bills to be the 10th customer of the day getting an amateur massage with a happy ending?
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05-02-2017 06:16 PM
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(05-02-2017 06:16 PM)Atomic Wrote: I give a date the stink eye and shut it down when she goes to order a dessert at the end of a meal, yet some guys are out there dropping two bills to be the 10th customer of the day getting an amateur massage with a happy ending?
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05-02-2017 06:26 PM
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In Canada you can only find a half-hour massage for at least 30-40$ as industry rate.
Sometimes 20C$ (14U.S.$) door fee is for Specials, and if the chick really likes a Black cock (big juicy cock), they really offer a "Bang for yuh Buck" if you know what I mean; sometimes they want to become your girlfriend.
In Montreal, it's cheaper, because you can get a full hour massage for 60$, though there is a crackdown on the places these days because of feminazis who don't like seeing hot white French women ease anxiety of men. Fucking police don't usually go after those female teacher who get fucked inside her asshole by 16-year-old male students that her asshole is leaking shit and vagina fluid at the same time, those fucker them pussy.
But these aren't RMT places, they usually do other things behind closed doors.
RMT massage you ain't gonna get any extra because it is strictly regulated by the healthcare industry. This is coming from a person who can seduce a hot massage parlor attendant do anything to please me, that it would cost an average Joe an extra hunna and fifty or even 3 billz if you know what I mean.
I find that the white Canadian Toronto-ized chicks who work as massage attendants usually end up fucking up the bizniz that the owner resorted to spamming his webpage with Google ads for that extra penny.
Asian chicks and European chicks are usually better; way better at massage, if you know what I mean. This forum doesn't discuss prostitute, so any consensual sex between two adults is sex, not prostitution.
05-02-2017 07:42 PM
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I'm surprised that this thread was allowed to continue to exist, although I, personally, don't have a problem with it. Do the guys who refuse to buy appetizers or drinks, or refuse to pay for anything, get top quality women? Serious question.
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(05-02-2017 07:42 PM)RBerkley Wrote: Fucking police don't usually go after those female teacher who get fucked inside her asshole by 16-year-old male students that her asshole is leaking shit and vagina fluid at the same time, those fucker them pussy.
"I can count on one hand, literally, the number of women I have ever met that can take that kind of advice, accept it and make use of it without their epic egos setting metaphorical fire to the conversation.
Most women "looking for advice" are in reality looking for someone to validate their cosmic victimhood, because it's not really their fault, because it's never their fault. This behavioural trait isn't absent among men, but when we fail society cares not, while when women fail there is no shortage of comforting platitudes on offer from every vector."