Post: #1

Right now I'm 26, I work an ok job and paying my bills, but its hard to find the purpose in it all, it seems like nothing is truly fulfilling whether it be girls, money, party's, whatever; it all feels kinda empty.

I may get depressed at times but I always maintain a good attitude, I know things always work out and that there isn't much sense in being sad and depressive but man is it hard at times.

I guess my best bet would be to try and find something that I really get fulfillment from but that is difficult, I thought about joining the military for travel and something different but I just don't know, above all I try not to sound like a little bitch and get all depressive and what not but things really seem bleak at times, I really don't even know if I want a family, sometimes I envision myself with a wife and kids but other times I feel like that its not for me, but then again some of the happiest times in my life are very simple, it has been with family, having a cookout eating some good food, listening to music, watching a movie with family, as I get older I realize more and more the importance of my loved ones.

Best way to describe my life is drifting, its like I'm just going by, making ends meet, some enjoyment here and there but nothing with much purpose, I'm just drifting through life, seems like time is moving fast and not much being accomplished.

Post: #2

I understand that feeling. I've been think about it quite a bit the past few months, and this is what I've come up with.

I think it comes down to creating a purpose. You can't just wait around for one to manifest. Start some projects (work or hobby or otherwise) that you always thought might be kind of interesting and see if one carries you away.

Also, I think there's a tendency to build up all this pressure because you think you need to find that one purpose that will go the distance.

But remember, you'll always be changing. So your purpose probably will not be the same throughout your entire life.

So get comfortable with the idea of just finding a purpose for right now and possibly switching it for an entirely different one later on as your situation evolves.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #3

Purpose is overrated.
Why do you even want to have a purpose? Because you lack fulfilment?

Then that's where you should start.

Do 3-5 little things each day that give you the physical sensation of enjoyment / fulfilment. Wether it's having bacon or sitting in a hot tub for a few minutes. That's where you start.

If you can do that consistently for a month, a purpose might show up. Because purpose is the result of fulfilment, not the other way around. And fulfilment is the result of enjoyment.

Some things, like solving a sudoku, take a little effort, but the solving leads to a warm fuzzy feeling of accomplishment. Enjoyment + effort (delayed gratification) are the building blocks of building a purpose.

Post: #4

It's obvious your job isn't a career to you. I've worked dozens of jobs since I was 15, but they've all been just that, a job. They pay the bills and I do just enough to get paid without getting bitched at.

Let's go back to kindergarten. What did you want to be when you were grown up?

Right now, if you could be anything in the world, what would you be? Take some time to reflect and figure out what you truly want in life.

I'm a year younger than you but in the same boat. I didn't even bother reading the 2015 accomplishments thread because I have nothing to show for 2015 other than learning what I don't want to be.

As a kid I thought I was going to play in the NHL. Once I realized that probably wasn't going to happen (sometime in middle school), I decided I was going to be super rich. I dreamed of having a big house with some dogs and a trophy wife to keep it all together. Even from a young age I knew I could never work for someone else and be happy. In high school I figured out what I wanted to do abstractly, but it's only recently that I've taken the driver's seat.

Now that I finally know what I want to do with my life, I've been making active steps to learn everything I can about the industry I've chosen and have been applying for jobs that will give me hands-on knowledge and local connections. I'm feeling pretty good about 2016.

Figure out what you want to do and start taking steps in the right direction.

Post: #5

Sometimes specifically doing things that scare you can really bring interest. Public Speaking? Travel to dangerous or exotic places? To me one big thing is to always follow your sparks of interest when they hit you, otherwise you get into the habit of ignoring them and you end up in a very deep rut.

Post: #6

If some of the happiest moments of your life have been with your loved ones, the LAST thing you should consider doing is joining the military (I'm talking active duty here). You will end up moving every 2-4 years all over the world and within the US. Your say in these moves and where you end up will be minimal to non-existent. Even if you have leave, you might not be able to take it due to logistics and/or mission requirements. You WILL miss important occasions in peoples lives and you will never get that time back.

The military is NOT going to give you any sense of purpose unless you are absolutely sure there is something you want to do that ONLY can be done in the military (fly fighter jets, command men into combat, be the captain of a naval ship, rescue people/defend border in coast guard, etc).

You might learn a lot of things about yourself but the military is not going to hand you a true purpose. They WILL always have a job for you though (however pointless or retarded)... but not a purpose.

In fact, one of the worse feelings in the world is knowing your purpose/having an idea of a purpose but being trapped in the military not being able to pursue opportunities that allow you to test the waters on things that interest you. You can easily lose years of your life agonizing over "what could be?" or "what could have been?" day-dreaming about your potential civilian life where you do a job you actually like, living in a location you actually enjoy, and being around people you want to be around. In some respects, being in the military is like being in prison.

That all said, you MIGHT want to consider the guard/reserve. Active duty is a massive commitment but the guard/reserve might help get you outta the funk and inject some excitement into your life without giving up access to your relatives and civilian life completely. Depending on what job you pick (unlike AD, you can pick the specific job, unit, and location and stay there for 20 years), you might develop a new social circle, get to travel a bit, and get some useful training that could lead to other things in the civilian world. It can be a bit demanding for a part-time job sometimes but its something worth looking into. I can answer more questions if you have them.

As for the overall concept of purpose:

I think it's pretty common for guys in their mid-20's to really struggle with developing a solid sense of purpose so I wouldn't be too hard on yourself about it. Whatever ideals and thoughts you had when you were younger have probably been shattered by brutal reality and things feel like they are adrift. I think its really important to not contemplate ideas around this time period but to actually TEST THE WATERS and DO things that actually spark your interest; even if the interest is minor.

For example:

1. Have an interest in being a doctor? Go to a hospital and shadow them. Like it? Study for the MCAT and do your pre-reqs.

2. Have an interest in being a cop? Go do a ride along. Like it? Apply to the department.

3. Have an interest in being in the military? Find current/ex military and pick their minds and visit a base if possible. Like what you hear? Talk to a recruiter.

4. Have an interest in politics? Go volunteer for a campaign for someone who catches your eye. Having a good time? Find a paid position.

5. Want to travel and live overseas for a bit? Go teach English for a while. If you enjoy it, go back to school and get a teaching degree and go work for a private university.

6. Want to stay close to your relatives/neighborhood? Find a job or start a local business that enables you to earn the most money/gives you the most free time with these people.

These are just ideas to give you a sense of what your attitude should be like. The worst thing you could do is sit around and do nothing and are not eliminating ideas and narrowing down the options. Even if it takes a while, as long as you are knocking out potential ideas, you are not really wasting time.

A LOT of people make the mistake of going head-first all in on an idea without really evaluating other options and eventually find themselves trapped in a career/lifestyle they want nothing to do with. You are not trapped; just bored. Not a bad position to be in at all relatively speaking. But if you don't scope out other ideas, you have no perspective on what is actually a good fit or not. You MUST develop that perspective sooner rather than later.

It's really like dealing with women actually:

You need to date a lot of women to develop a sense for what an actual legit women looks like in relation to your values so you can feel somewhat confident pulling the trigger to LTR/wife a chick. That chick won't be perfect, just like a job/career, but you will have confidence based on developing your own perspective stemming from direct experiences.

Post: #7

Something I'd add that I've been thinking about a lot recently as I've moved into the second half of my twenties:

Lack of purpose is not the problem, it is a symptom of a deeper malaise - mediocrity and excessive comfort. Life is about the highs and the lows. We need struggle, triumph and disaster, fleeting success and deep abiding failure. To really live, we need the threat of a kind of death to be constantly hovering over us, whether it is social, financial, or literal, we need circumstances to set ourselves against. Unfortunately, the lives most of us lead mean we allow ourselves to be robbed of this opportunity, by and large. We can turn up unthinkingly day after day, do just enough without really exerting ourselves, and get well enough remunerated for it. As a result, we can afford an adequate accommodation, enough food, enough time and money for moderate socialising, healthcare etc.

The reason you don't have a purpose is because all your decisions are more or less made for you, and life just floats on by, not too good, not too bad. Like it or not, the threat of real disaster in any arena of life is exciting to your true nature. Purpose is always survival, or 'thrival', in meaningful circumstances - that, in essence, is the human condition, to struggle against adversity and triumph for a while - to measure our internal selves against external stimulus, and to prevail.

Purpose will find you, whatever you're doing, when doing the bare minimum is no longer acceptable. This sounds lofty, but really it is not. There is as much purpose on a building site as there is in a laboratory, provided you are looking for it, not allowing modernity to rob you of it. It is a choice. It is a harder choice when your job is soft and comfortable, no doubt. Dangerous work makes it easier to find purpose, whether that is being a soldier, an off-shore oil rig worker, starting a company, etc etc. When there is the constant, real threat of danger or defeat, you will find purpose, and it will drive you on. This is why men who do dangerous work form deeper bonds between each other, why people in these professions seem to have so much more vitality, and I suspect why PTSD and addiction are such a problem for them once they stop - they move from an environment where their purpose is clear, simple and constant, and move into an environment where, like you, they do not know how to find things to struggle against. Find a way to struggle and you will find purpose. Boredom is the greatest threat to the soul.

Post: #8

Duncan, start reading ancient or medieval texts. The materialist era which has been dominant since the 19th Century has left most of us spiritually anaemic and others trying to distract themselves from the void through TV sports, sex, alcohol, drugs, consumption etc.

Post: #9

(12-31-2015 07:42 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  The reason you don't have a purpose is because all your decisions are more or less made for you, and life just floats on by, not too good, not too bad. Like it or not, the threat of real disaster in any arena of life is exciting to your true nature. Purpose is always survival, or 'thrival', in meaningful circumstances - that, in essence, is the human condition, to struggle against adversity and triumph for a while - to measure our internal selves against external stimulus, and to prevail.

Completely agree. Best food I've ever eaten was after a back country hike through mountains for a week. Friend and I hiked in with our food in bear country. Ran into a mother bear and 3 cubs, luckily didn't have to do anything to them. The meal at the end was so incredible, the beer so delicious and intoxicating. My friend and I laughed so hard as we recounted the trip and all the crazy shit that happened to us.

Sometimes I have a few days off and sit around the house. Lift. Read a few books. Be lazy. I feel like shit.

Post: #10

(12-31-2015 07:42 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  Something I'd add that I've been thinking about a lot recently as I've moved into the second half of my twenties:

Lack of purpose is not the problem, it is a symptom of a deeper malaise - mediocrity and excessive comfort. Life is about the highs and the lows. We need struggle, triumph and disaster, fleeting success and deep abiding failure. To really live, we need the threat of a kind of death to be constantly hovering over us, whether it is social, financial, or literal, we need circumstances to set ourselves against. Unfortunately, the lives most of us lead mean we allow ourselves to be robbed of this opportunity, by and large. We can turn up unthinkingly day after day, do just enough without really exerting ourselves, and get well enough remunerated for it. As a result, we can afford an adequate accommodation, enough food, enough time and money for moderate socialising, healthcare etc.

The reason you don't have a purpose is because all your decisions are more or less made for you, and life just floats on by, not too good, not too bad. Like it or not, the threat of real disaster in any arena of life is exciting to your true nature. Purpose is always survival, or 'thrival', in meaningful circumstances - that, in essence, is the human condition, to struggle against adversity and triumph for a while - to measure our internal selves against external stimulus, and to prevail.

Purpose will find you, whatever you're doing, when doing the bare minimum is no longer acceptable. This sounds lofty, but really it is not. There is as much purpose on a building site as there is in a laboratory, provided you are looking for it, not allowing modernity to rob you of it. It is a choice. It is a harder choice when your job is soft and comfortable, no doubt. Dangerous work makes it easier to find purpose, whether that is being a soldier, an off-shore oil rig worker, starting a company, etc etc. When there is the constant, real threat of danger or defeat, you will find purpose, and it will drive you on. This is why men who do dangerous work form deeper bonds between each other, why people in these professions seem to have so much more vitality, and I suspect why PTSD and addiction are such a problem for them once they stop - they move from an environment where their purpose is clear, simple and constant, and move into an environment where, like you, they do not know how to find things to struggle against. Find a way to struggle and you will find purpose. Boredom is the greatest threat to the soul.

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Post: #11

There's no meaning to life other than the one you create for it.

It has to do with attachment. In other words, if you choose to invest your time and energy into something you like, you will become attached to it, this then will give your life its purpose because you have invested into it, it becomes meaningful to you.

I used to look for my purpose outside of myself, like everyone else. I found after decades that nothing meant anything to me. Then, I started putting a lot of energy into a project, and I found that the project suddenly had a lot of meaning to me. That's how I learned that there is no ultimate meaning to life other than the one you give to it.

Post: #12

(12-31-2015 07:42 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  Something I'd add that I've been thinking about a lot recently as I've moved into the second half of my twenties:

Lack of purpose is not the problem, it is a symptom of a deeper malaise - mediocrity and excessive comfort. Life is about the highs and the lows. We need struggle, triumph and disaster, fleeting success and deep abiding failure. To really live, we need the threat of a kind of death to be constantly hovering over us, whether it is social, financial, or literal, we need circumstances to set ourselves against. Unfortunately, the lives most of us lead mean we allow ourselves to be robbed of this opportunity, by and large. We can turn up unthinkingly day after day, do just enough without really exerting ourselves, and get well enough remunerated for it. As a result, we can afford an adequate accommodation, enough food, enough time and money for moderate socialising, healthcare etc.

The reason you don't have a purpose is because all your decisions are more or less made for you, and life just floats on by, not too good, not too bad. Like it or not, the threat of real disaster in any arena of life is exciting to your true nature. Purpose is always survival, or 'thrival', in meaningful circumstances - that, in essence, is the human condition, to struggle against adversity and triumph for a while - to measure our internal selves against external stimulus, and to prevail.

Purpose will find you, whatever you're doing, when doing the bare minimum is no longer acceptable. This sounds lofty, but really it is not. There is as much purpose on a building site as there is in a laboratory, provided you are looking for it, not allowing modernity to rob you of it. It is a choice. It is a harder choice when your job is soft and comfortable, no doubt. Dangerous work makes it easier to find purpose, whether that is being a soldier, an off-shore oil rig worker, starting a company, etc etc. When there is the constant, real threat of danger or defeat, you will find purpose, and it will drive you on. This is why men who do dangerous work form deeper bonds between each other, why people in these professions seem to have so much more vitality, and I suspect why PTSD and addiction are such a problem for them once they stop - they move from an environment where their purpose is clear, simple and constant, and move into an environment where, like you, they do not know how to find things to struggle against. Find a way to struggle and you will find purpose. Boredom is the greatest threat to the soul.

Wow man, I just had a convo with my cousin who was in the Army, he says that he misses it, how it was so very simple, you always had a clear objective, eat, survive and complete the mission, he actually wants to go back to Afghanistan, he says out here you have to worry about a bunch of bullshit where as in there it is very simple and orderly.

The more I think about it the more I feel for these soldiers, sure there is a lot of shit they have to go through and see but they are also living a life that brings adrenaline, they are working out and pushing their bodys, they are bonding and accomplishing the ultimate "purpose", surviving.

Post: #13

(12-31-2015 09:10 AM)N°6 Wrote:  Duncan, start reading ancient or medieval texts. The materialist era which has been dominant since the 19th Century has left most of us spiritually anaemic and others trying to distract themselves from the void through TV sports, sex, alcohol, drugs, consumption etc.

Any recomendations as to what to start with?

Post: #14

(12-31-2015 10:00 AM)ball dont lie Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 07:42 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  The reason you don't have a purpose is because all your decisions are more or less made for you, and life just floats on by, not too good, not too bad. Like it or not, the threat of real disaster in any arena of life is exciting to your true nature. Purpose is always survival, or 'thrival', in meaningful circumstances - that, in essence, is the human condition, to struggle against adversity and triumph for a while - to measure our internal selves against external stimulus, and to prevail.

Completely agree. Best food I've ever eaten was after a back country hike through mountains for a week. Friend and I hiked in with our food in bear country. Ran into a mother bear and 3 cubs, luckily didn't have to do anything to them. The meal at the end was so incredible, the beer so delicious and intoxicating. My friend and I laughed so hard as we recounted the trip and all the crazy shit that happened to us.

Sometimes I have a few days off and sit around the house. Lift. Read a few books. Be lazy. I feel like shit.

Funny huh, I was out of work for a few months and at first it was cool, I felt free! But then after a week of sitting around the house you quickly realize that there is nothing being accomplished, you feel like shit and feel like you arent moving forward, I was dying to get a job and do SOMETHING, not to mention I had bills to pay heh.

Post: #15

Think about trying James Altucher's "how to be the luckiest person in the world" - tldr it's a 4-step daily thing of basic exercise, brainstorming ideas, practicing gratitude and meditating. The keys I think are writing down your thoughts and keeping mind and body sharp.

Post: #16

In my opinion there isn't really a purpose or a meaning to life. You have to learn how to impart a purpose or a meaning to it. You absolutely cannot rely on an occupation or an activity to give you that purpose.

Why not?

Because you will lose it. I promise you will lose it and then you will be staring down this question once again. That is why you need to learn how to create a purpose on your own.

Joining the military and traveling to foreign countries to fight wars will teach you what it feels like to live with a purpose, but it will not necessarily teach you how to impart meaning to your life. I know a ton of guys who will be forever wishing that they could go back to Iraq or Afghanistan.

Playing a sport at a high level will give you the same sense of purpose, the same shots of adrenaline. Then you lose it and are met with the soul crushing realization that it's going to be next to impossible to reach the same level of adrenaline that you felt when you were in a huge stadium with thousands of people cheering you on.

Not everything in life is a grand orgy of excitement.

You have to really learn how to enjoy simple activities, which really just means you have to be able to rationalize things in a positive manner. For the longest time I would get bored in the gym because I was rationalizing it as a menial activity like shitting or showering. Getting under the bar and thinking, "this is my competition" makes all the difference in the world. The activity doesn't change but the rationale behind it does.

I have come to hate the word "mindset." I started thinking of everything in terms of rationalization because it gives me the feeling that I have more of an active role over my mental state. The human mind is a rationalization machine and you would be a fool not to use it to your advantage. You can make the choice to be amused with something just as effectively as you can make the choice not to be.

Example:

Rationale 1: Woodworking is an engaging activity that requires patience and precision. Creating tangible objects is fulfilling and learning about different types of wood and woodworking techniques are intellectually stimulating.

Rationale 2: Woodworking is a meaningless activity because there is no purpose behind it.

It's your choice.

The true masters in many walks of life are masters because they have chosen to impart meaning to whatever it is they were doing. They didn't find their purpose. They created their purpose. They chose to be amused by something that other people thought was boring and meaningless.

A lot of guys have already talked about pursuing a variety of different activities to find something that resonates with you. That's the first step. Don't expect anything to automatically sweep you up in a whirlwind and change your life.

In the words of gmanifesto, "The rest is up to you."

Post: #17

Life doesn't have a purpose, just do what you enjoy. If you must find something finding porpoises will be easier.

Post: #18

Most people need to be told what to do. This gives them their purpose.

That's why people love participating in religion, army, consumerism and paper pushing jobs.

Post: #19

(01-02-2016 02:56 PM)TheDuncan Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 09:10 AM)N°6 Wrote:  Duncan, start reading ancient or medieval texts. The materialist era which has been dominant since the 19th Century has left most of us spiritually anaemic and others trying to distract themselves from the void through TV sports, sex, alcohol, drugs, consumption etc.

Any recomendations as to what to start with?

My personal recommendations:

The Book of Proverbs
The Book of Ecclesiastes
The Analects of Confucious
The Diamond Sutra
The Apology of Socrates by Plato
The Apology of Socrates by Xenophon

Post: #20

If you'll forgive the medium, I find this to be a very concise and relatable video on the subject of purpose.

Post: #21

Hey man, I really hear you. It sounds like you've gotten far enough in each area that you are feeling or looking for a deeper meaning to your life - to know your purpose.

I totally can relate to this, as I had to struggle for a long time to find out what mine was, which was actually there with me all the time but I couldn't see the forest as I focused on the trees. The forest of our life is that foundation that gives meaning and clarity what we do. We can use lots of words to discuss and debate this, but in the end, I know I found so much peace knowing my 'motto' and am continually finding amazing clarity and a deeper sense of joy when I see it in action in the world.

If you want to get into a good calm space and help relieve anxiety you can breathe deeply and slowly like I illustrate in these videos. You don't need the device if you just focus on the breath pacer. Give yourself a few minutes and guarantee you'll feel more calm and clear. Do this as much as you want during the day and combine it with walking, or light exercise. Your body will tell you what it needs - make sure you move and don't let all the head-questions dominate your life.

EDIT: Videos removed for privacy. If someone is interested in tips and resources, PM me and I can assist.

(12-29-2015 11:52 AM)TheDuncan Wrote:  Right now I'm 26, I work an ok job and paying my bills, but its hard to find the purpose in it all, it seems like nothing is truly fulfilling whether it be girls, money, party's, whatever; it all feels kinda empty.

I may get depressed at times but I always maintain a good attitude, I know things always work out and that there isn't much sense in being sad and depressive but man is it hard at times.

I guess my best bet would be to try and find something that I really get fulfillment from but that is difficult, I thought about joining the military for travel and something different but I just don't know, above all I try not to sound like a little bitch and get all depressive and what not but things really seem bleak at times, I really don't even know if I want a family, sometimes I envision myself with a wife and kids but other times I feel like that its not for me, but then again some of the happiest times in my life are very simple, it has been with family, having a cookout eating some good food, listening to music, watching a movie with family, as I get older I realize more and more the importance of my loved ones.

Best way to describe my life is drifting, its like I'm just going by, making ends meet, some enjoyment here and there but nothing with much purpose, I'm just drifting through life, seems like time is moving fast and not much being accomplished.

Post: #22

(12-29-2015 11:52 AM)TheDuncan Wrote:  Right now I'm 26, I work an ok job and paying my bills, but its hard to find the purpose in it all, it seems like nothing is truly fulfilling whether it be girls, money, party's, whatever; it all feels kinda empty.

I may get depressed at times but I always maintain a good attitude, I know things always work out and that there isn't much sense in being sad and depressive but man is it hard at times.

I guess my best bet would be to try and find something that I really get fulfillment from but that is difficult, I thought about joining the military for travel and something different but I just don't know, above all I try not to sound like a little bitch and get all depressive and what not but things really seem bleak at times, I really don't even know if I want a family, sometimes I envision myself with a wife and kids but other times I feel like that its not for me, but then again some of the happiest times in my life are very simple, it has been with family, having a cookout eating some good food, listening to music, watching a movie with family, as I get older I realize more and more the importance of my loved ones.

Best way to describe my life is drifting, its like I'm just going by, making ends meet, some enjoyment here and there but nothing with much purpose, I'm just drifting through life, seems like time is moving fast and not much being accomplished.

i'm in my mid-40s. i remember feeling a lot like you when i was in my 20s. for whatever reason, i became obsessed with languages when i was a teenager, and that obsession led me to finding various ways to live overseas and learn new languages and get to know other cultures. there was a work exchange program in switzerland while i was in college, then peace corps in ukraine after college. once i made an arragement with a friend of friend in germany for room and board for a few months while i helped them renovate their house. i worked hard to learn the language everywhere i lived overseas, and i made a lot of friends and met women in spite of my beta cluelessness. finally in my 40s, i met my wife while working in central america.

i think the best thing you can do at your age is lift weights, work on your style, save money, and think of ways to get out of the US and see the world, at least temporarily. work on learning the language of the place you want to go too. do a little bit every day, whether you feel like it or not.

the cool thing is that you're very young and you've already found the red pill/neomasculinity. i had a great run as a single guy, but i feel like i accomplished 10% of what i could have if i hadn't been indoctrinated with feminism and SJW garbage.

Post: #23

So its late right now, I cant sleep and I im just thinking about life, what I want, what is it that is a worthy life to me.

I always come to the same conclusion, I dont care all that much about money or tangible things, memories and the moment is all I ever cared for, what is it that I would do if I had a billion dollars? Not buy a yacht or cars or anything; I would travel, different states, countries, I want to meet new and interesting people, I want tales to tell, I want experiences, funny stories, moments, memories that will stay in my mind, experiences and people that I can learn from, I want to experience the good and the bad, everything that the world has to offer.

I dont want to read about other countries, their food, their women, their people, their sights, I want to be there, experince it myself, feel it.

In short on my deathbed I want a book worth reading, a book where 80% is not me working at the same place just to pay bills or save up for my kids college or some tangible thing that I always dreamed of, I understand some people are ok with that, with living or striving for the "American Dream", house, family, steady job, retirement.

As we all do we grow and change so maybe by the time im in my mid 30's I will look at life differently but as of this moment that is what I want, I just have to figure out how to achive this, I dont care about having a big savings of money when I die, I only need money to do what I want in the now, to live in the moment.

Im a bit rambling but that is what I want out of life, perhaps my "purpose" is to live how I want.

Post: #24

(01-09-2016 12:29 AM)bucky Wrote:  

(12-29-2015 11:52 AM)TheDuncan Wrote:  Right now I'm 26, I work an ok job and paying my bills, but its hard to find the purpose in it all, it seems like nothing is truly fulfilling whether it be girls, money, party's, whatever; it all feels kinda empty.

I may get depressed at times but I always maintain a good attitude, I know things always work out and that there isn't much sense in being sad and depressive but man is it hard at times.

I guess my best bet would be to try and find something that I really get fulfillment from but that is difficult, I thought about joining the military for travel and something different but I just don't know, above all I try not to sound like a little bitch and get all depressive and what not but things really seem bleak at times, I really don't even know if I want a family, sometimes I envision myself with a wife and kids but other times I feel like that its not for me, but then again some of the happiest times in my life are very simple, it has been with family, having a cookout eating some good food, listening to music, watching a movie with family, as I get older I realize more and more the importance of my loved ones.

Best way to describe my life is drifting, its like I'm just going by, making ends meet, some enjoyment here and there but nothing with much purpose, I'm just drifting through life, seems like time is moving fast and not much being accomplished.

i'm in my mid-40s. i remember feeling a lot like you when i was in my 20s. for whatever reason, i became obsessed with languages when i was a teenager, and that obsession led me to finding various ways to live overseas and learn new languages and get to know other cultures. there was a work exchange program in switzerland while i was in college, then peace corps in ukraine after college. once i made an arragement with a friend of friend in germany for room and board for a few months while i helped them renovate their house. i worked hard to learn the language everywhere i lived overseas, and i made a lot of friends and met women in spite of my beta cluelessness. finally in my 40s, i met my wife while working in central america.

i think the best thing you can do at your age is lift weights, work on your style, save money, and think of ways to get out of the US and see the world, at least temporarily. work on learning the language of the place you want to go too. do a little bit every day, whether you feel like it or not.

the cool thing is that you're very young and you've already found the red pill/neomasculinity. i had a great run as a single guy, but i feel like i accomplished 10% of what i could have if i hadn't been indoctrinated with feminism and SJW garbage.

Thanks man this falls in line with what I just wrote, I know I am young at 26 but geez thinking about it makes me realize all the time I have wasted, I shouldnt be where I am at now, I should be far ahead in what I envision but with the combination of betaness and laziness it hindered me in the past, as a man whos eyes have been opened so to speak with the red pill knowledge I know what I have to do and no sense in looking back with regret, the time is now to move forward and act with no regrets or complaints.

I wont lie I still have some betaish qualities here and there but with time and effort that will be gone, I see the best yet of my life still ahead.

Post: #25

(01-03-2016 08:12 AM)Hardy Daytona Wrote:  If you'll forgive the medium, I find this to be a very concise and relatable video on the subject of purpose.

That was pretty cool, I like how he says no matter how much power in time we will be forgotten, we all lose to time.

Kinda what I mean when I say money and tangible items, that is not really a measure of success for me, something I kinda realize about myself when younger was that when my drug dealing cousins would tell me about how much money they make, how they have all these material items, girls and what not it never impressed me, sure it was nice to have but the ones that always had me fascinated was my father, my uncles, men who travelled to different parts, always had stories to tell of women, of experiences of danger, of laughter, of craziness, even today when someone older comes to me and tells me of their life and it resembles that I am immediately intrigued.

Thats what I want, even if I have no one to share my story with at 70 and no money to my name, if I can sit back and be happy with the life I lived, it was all worth it.