Post: #26

(12-24-2015 03:16 PM)nidall Wrote:  

(12-24-2015 09:49 AM)Soyouz Wrote:  Seeing a 3 years gap on a resume is usually a deal breaker.

Some suggestions :
-Say that you took those 3 years to work abroad.
-Write a fake work experience, and be prepared to give fake references (ex : one of your close friend could do it).

As I said in my last post, I discussed the possibility of using a business that went under this year as my last "employer" that I never worked for. The business was a hardware store owned by a good friend who can back me up in case HR calls him.

My question therefore is, which is better? Putting down that I worked or traveled abroad or that I worked for this hardware store?

Better to say you worked for the hardware store that went under. Just say you were an "Analyst", and gear whatever you did towards the job you are applying for at least slightly. Generic position titles are the best.

Post: #27

(12-24-2015 03:16 PM)nidall Wrote:  As I said in my last post, I discussed the possibility of using a business that went under this year as my last "employer" that I never worked for. The business was a hardware store owned by a good friend who can back me up in case HR calls him.

My question therefore is, which is better? Putting down that I worked or traveled abroad or that I worked for this hardware store?

Fuck traveling if you're not saying you had relevant work experience they don't want to hear it.

Go for the hardware store! This a a no-brainer since your buddy will cover for you for the background check and a reference check. Just make sure that your job responsibilities and title are similar to what your applying for(i.e. don't say your unloaded freight when your applying for Electrical Engineer job).

Besides that I also highly recommend you get the "Fake Resume Guide". This will help you strengthen the rest of your resume. I've had it about 3 years and the exercises in it are gold.


Good luck.

Post: #28

(12-24-2015 08:31 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  

(12-24-2015 03:16 PM)nidall Wrote:  As I said in my last post, I discussed the possibility of using a business that went under this year as my last "employer" that I never worked for. The business was a hardware store owned by a good friend who can back me up in case HR calls him.

My question therefore is, which is better? Putting down that I worked or traveled abroad or that I worked for this hardware store?

Fuck traveling if you're not saying you had relevant work experience they don't want to hear it.

Go for the hardware store! This a a no-brainer since your buddy will cover for you for the background check and a reference check. Just make sure that your job responsibilities and title are similar to what your applying for(i.e. don't say your unloaded freight when your applying for Electrical Engineer job).

Besides that I also highly recommend you get the "Fake Resume Guide". This will help you strengthen the rest of your resume. I've had it about 3 years and the exercises in it are gold.


Good luck.

Hey Goldin Boy,

"Fake Resume Guide" sounds interesting - can you post some key insights from the guide?

Would be thankful for it.

Post: #29

(12-24-2015 03:16 PM)nidall Wrote:  

(12-24-2015 09:49 AM)Soyouz Wrote:  Seeing a 3 years gap on a resume is usually a deal breaker.

Some suggestions :
-Say that you took those 3 years to work abroad.
-Write a fake work experience, and be prepared to give fake references (ex : one of your close friend could do it).

As I said in my last post, I discussed the possibility of using a business that went under this year as my last "employer" that I never worked for. The business was a hardware store owned by a good friend who can back me up in case HR calls him.

My question therefore is, which is better? Putting down that I worked or traveled abroad or that I worked for this hardware store?

Go for the hardware store. Make sure to coach your friends about what you're gonna write on your resume, and what you're gonna say in the interview.

Recruiters who check references usually ask the following questions (so your friends can foresee what kind of questions they will ask):
http://www.hcareers.com/us/resourcecente...fault.aspx

Post: #30

(12-24-2015 08:31 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  Fuck traveling if you're not saying you had relevant work experience they don't want to hear it.

Go for the hardware store! This a a no-brainer since your buddy will cover for you for the background check and a reference check.

Hi Goldin Boy. I will put the hardware store down as my last employer and that I "worked" there for 3 years. But what if ask from me for W-2s from there when I never worked there? What do I say?

Post: #31

(12-25-2015 07:23 PM)nidall Wrote:  

(12-24-2015 08:31 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  Fuck traveling if you're not saying you had relevant work experience they don't want to hear it.

Go for the hardware store! This a a no-brainer since your buddy will cover for you for the background check and a reference check.

Hi Goldin Boy. I will put the hardware store down as my last employer and that I "worked" there for 3 years. But what if ask from me for W-2s from there when I never worked there? What do I say?

That's easy. Go online and find something like this:

http://www.realtaxtools.com/W2-Mate.html...oCCeXw_wcB

It's w-2 software, designed for small businesses. I've used this one. Buy it for the years you need and use it. They also sell the paper there too. Good quality, you can't tell the difference.

Or if they want a paystub, google "novelty excuses". They have a good template in there you can edit(in addition to a ton of legit-looking doctor's notes).

Post: #32

(12-25-2015 07:23 PM)nidall Wrote:  

(12-24-2015 08:31 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  Fuck traveling if you're not saying you had relevant work experience they don't want to hear it.

Go for the hardware store! This a a no-brainer since your buddy will cover for you for the background check and a reference check.

Hi Goldin Boy. I will put the hardware store down as my last employer and that I "worked" there for 3 years. But what if ask from me for W-2s from there when I never worked there? What do I say?

No one will ask for W2s unlike it's a niche job, like being a floorhand/derrickhand. This is to verify experience and it's not some moron saying they have 2 years exp.

Shit, not even professional jobs ask for W2s.

The only instances where I have heard about W2s being asked if the applicant's salary history is high and he wants the company to match his pay.

Also, your defensiveness and paranoia is telling me that you've done something "bad" that you don't want anyone to find about. Were you locked up or something?



Currently I have two assistants that run employment verifications (references) and here's all they do. Call the references twice, ask for position, dates, pay......and they will ask if the applicant was a good employee and if the person is rehireable.

Here's the thing, most companies only release job title and job dates. Anything else they will not comment on.

I was in your situation a couple of years ago and all I did was list myself as a freelancer and had a couple of friends as references because they were my clients. One of them was also listed as a former employer of mine. I put a fake address and a generic company name "LITTLE ABE'S SHEETROCK WORKS", no one every found out.

Post: #33

(12-25-2015 07:45 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  That's easy. Go online and find something like this:

http://www.realtaxtools.com/W2-Mate.html...oCCeXw_wcB

It's w-2 software, designed for small businesses. Or if they want a paystub, google "novelty excuses".

That sounds too risky. I really don’t know if printing out fake paystubs or W-2s will completely fool HR. I really don’t know.

(12-25-2015 07:45 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  No one will ask for W2s unlike it's a niche job, like being a floorhand/derrickhand.

Shit, not even professional jobs ask for W2s.

Actually, they do. At one company I interviewed at they asked for my past W-2 which I couldn’t furnish because the last job position I stated I held on my resume I never worked in.

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I was in your situation a couple of years ago and all I did was list myself as a freelancer and had a couple of friends as references because they were my clients. One of them was also listed as a former employer of mine. I put a fake address and a generic company name "LITTLE ABE'S SHEETROCK WORKS", no one every found out.

Freelancing sounds like a good idea. I got 2 questions on this:

1) Would putting freelancing on my resume get me in trouble with HR? Can they find out that I never freelanced?

2) If I put down freelancing on my resume, how would I cover this in case HR asks for proof like my EIN or copy of my business taxes?

3) I got a good friend who used to own a business that failed this year. I never worked for him but I can put his business on my resume and he can provide a good reference. Of course, since I never worked for him I can’t provide W-2s in case HR asks for them to gauge my salary. So considering this, which is better: Putting the freelance work or my friend’s business on my resume?

Post: #34

It's unlikely that anybody will ask you for w2, at least for professional, non government jobs

If they do, fuck em. Unemployment is at 40 years low right now. Lots of other companies where you can apply.