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RE: Shooting in San Bernardino California
Have a business in the area and closed down early today. Although the immediate area is OK because of all of the office buildings, the surrounding area is very rough: lots of drugs, violence with very understaffed/undermanned police after San Bernardino declared bankruptcy a few years ago. First thing I marveled at was just how many responders there were: obviously, most aren't just city cops, but also other local/state/federal, but I couldn't believe how fast they got there and how many local cops there were. Not fully subscribing to the false flag or conspiracy theories just yet, but it seemed strange. Then again, it could just be two very random occurrences happening at the same time, as these things are bound to happen.

Also thought that it didn't seem like ISIS because no suicide bomb vests or screams of "Allahu Akbar". I'm leaning towards some sort of personal vendetta or a Timothy McVeigh home-grown terrorist thing.
12-02-2015 07:40 PM
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Yeah but what are the odds 3 people had a personal vendetta against a organization like that ?

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(12-02-2015 07:49 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Yeah but what are the odds 3 people had a personal vendetta against a organization like that ?

Not bad if they were all cousins who were in gangs/prone to violence (big black escalade with tinted windows) and say, their mentally retarded cousin got benefits cut off by someone in the Regional Center and they took it personally.
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RE: Shooting in San Bernardino California
Anythings up for grabs.

Someone posted earlier, this is the weirdest mass shooting I've seen.

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RE: Shooting in San Bernardino California
First thing I marveled at was just how many responders there were: obviously, most aren't just city cops, but also other local/state/federal, but I couldn't believe how fast they got there and how many local cops there were. Not fully subscribing to the false flag or conspiracy theories just yet, but it seemed strange.

LATimes article says because the center often deals with angry people, they hold monthly shooter drills, and that when this first went down, many of the workers thought it was just another drill before they realized it was real.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me...story.html

Quote:At the Inland Regional Center, where she’s a nurse, the staff works with clients and parents of clients who are sometimes angry. They have active-shooter drills every month or so.

“Drill started,” she texted her husband, Mark, around 11 a.m.

She walked to a window nearby and filmed a video as law enforcement sprinted toward the building.

“Oh, that is scary,” a voice says calmly in the background.

“They’re all geared up!” someone else says. “Rifles and everything!”

In the background, someone laughs -- they still didn’t know.

Then the reality set in.

She texted her husband again: “Well it’s real.”

It they're always drilling for this eventuality on a monthly basis, it wouldn't be surprising to see such a quick response.
12-02-2015 07:55 PM
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They haven't done any self righteous condemnation yet of the shooters. My guess is that they're not white, possibly not males either. MikeCF tweeted this exact thing a minute ago while I was trying to find out who did the shooting.
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Quote:Bij een massale actie met schotenwisselingen tussen een zwarte SUV en de politie zijn twee mogelijke verdachten doodgeschoten. Het is nog niet bevestigd of zij de schutters zijn. De derde mogelijke verdachte is aangehouden, melden Amerikaanse media. De politie kon dit niet bevestigen. Bij de politieactie is een agent gewond geraakt.

Are there two people killed by a police action and one arrested? Can anyone confirm?
12-02-2015 07:59 PM
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me...story.html

They said a dispute at the party may have led to this?
12-02-2015 08:01 PM
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Car registered under female Arabic name, authorities searching for man named farooq Saeed.
12-02-2015 08:10 PM
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RE: Shooting in San Bernardino California
I know the San Bernardino neighborhood that SWAT is currently in very well. I used to live right over the city line from it in Redlands. That neighborhood is about 90% Mexican in ethnic composition and of the poorer variety. If the suspects fled to their own home in that area, I would seriously doubt they are of the "crazy white guy" variety.

On the other hand, they have a chopper flying over Redlands right now, which is a predominantly white, middle to upper middle class city. It'll be interesting to see where this goes.

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(12-02-2015 08:12 PM)jdreise Wrote:  I know the San Bernardino neighborhood that SWAT is currently in very well. I used to live right over the city line from it in Redlands. That neighborhood is about 90% Mexican in ethnic composition and of the poorer variety. If the suspects fled to their own home in that area, I would seriously doubt they are of the "crazy white guy" variety.

On the other hand, they have a chopper flying over Redlands right now, which is a predominantly white, middle to upper middle class city. It'll be interesting to see where this goes.

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(12-02-2015 08:11 PM)aeroektar Wrote:  Car registered under female Arabic name, authorities searching for man named farooq Saeed.

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I'm not going to post the "Aaaannnnddd It's Islam" meme yet. But, well...

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Let's get proof before we jump to conclusions

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An Islamic male, Faroud Sayid, went into the Christmas party and started an argument with Christians about faith. He then left the party and returned with two other individuals, shot multiple clips of ammunition into the attendees, and left. Two of the suspects, one male, one female were justifiably mowed down by San Bernadino police and a third suspect is being sought.

What I gathered. It seems the religion of peace striked again.

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Remember guys, this has nothing to do with religion. 2 + 2 = 5.

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Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag. We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language. And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.
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News outlets now reporting Syed Farook as the suspect. Using assault rifles, which are probably banned in California and have been for a long time. With a female shooter.

But its white males that are the problem.

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Especially white males that are offering condolences and sending positive thoughts rather than politicizing the issue.
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From NBC:

Quote:Multiple sources from multiple agencies identified one of the three attackers at the resource center to NBC News as Syed Farook. No other information was available, but a knowledgeable source said another member of the trio is believed to be Farook's brother.

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FBI guy said "some things may suggest terrorism but I cannot confirm". His reaction suggests that they think it is.
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It says a lot about how jaded I am about these things now that I was hoping it was something more interesting than Islam.

I was even fantasising about a Drug Cartel theory, then laughed out loud when others started floating that idea too. Instead, it's just the same old same old.
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I enjoyed the false flag theory in wake of the impending fed rate hike.
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